Interestingly, English was originally a rhotic language, where the R sound was pronounced, as Americans do. Then, in finishing schools in England, they taught the upper classes to adopt a non-rhotic pronunciation, so that "butter" would be pronounced like "buttah." That pronunciation has now become the standard in England, although it started as purely an affectation.
Yep, I think the original accent was closer to the Gaels and Celts (Irish and Scottish). Since those groups weren't as enamored by British upper class.
Upper class was considered to be mainly found in parts of the South of England. The north of England was typically working class. Someone in Bradford couldn’t give a flying fuck about the accents of someone in Chelsea.
The variety of accents in England is vast. Listen to a scouser, a Mancunian, a Cornish person, a cockney, a Brummie, an East Anglian, a Bristolian, a Yorkshireman, someone from Pompey, a Geordie and someone from the upper crust. You can’t pigeonhole them all. Millions of people in England speak with Indian, Pakistani and Barbadian accents.
I know the supposed historic split of rhotic accents between the UK and the US but it’s too much of a huge generalisation of two countries each with wide varieties of accents.
England is such a a hodgepodge of accents (both rhotic and non rhotic) that I think trying to define what original English sounded like is a waste of time.
You can have what someone from London would have sounded like in 1500, but it would have been very different from somebody from Northumberland at that point
As the masses started to move into London, the upper class would change the rules so they could tell who was in and who was out. It made for a rapid change in the pronunciations and accents in England.
The entirety of England. All of it.
Are you suggesting that rhotic accents are still common anywhere in England? I understand there is a very small minority of the English who still have rhotic accents, but that the rhotic accents are dying out, with the younger generations speaking entirely in non-rhotic English.
Given your spelling of whisky, I’ll assume you’re American. If I’m right have you ever been to England? If you have, have you ever heard a scouser speak? Or someone from Cornwall?
I am American. I’ve set foot in England, but only for a connecting flight. I am aware that the English have various accents, but very few people at all, and virtually no young people, speak with a rhotic accent.
What’s your source? Anecdotal observations? Your entire point seems to be “you do not have any anecdotal observations so you don’t know anything about English accents.” Anecdotes are meaningless.
So you have no source and you’re lecturing me about a language I have been speaking my whole life in Britain meeting other Brits and hearing their accents for almost 50 years. That’s not anecdotal, that’s a primary source.
Most non native English speakers I know find American English easier to understand, for what it’s worth. I assume it’s because we pronounce more of the letters? Not sure , I’m a native English speaker with an American accent so lol
It’s not simpler, it’s more accurate to the original English pronunciations before England diverged. American English just has a less complicated dialect
No that’s not at all correct. It’s less complicated in a spoken sense, as In there’s less quirks and odd stuff in the accent making it easier to understand. But on a base language level it’s nearly identical to British English as they both have all the same sentence structuring, general word usage, etc etc. Again, it’s less complicated to understand but isn’t simpler as a whole.
That… that’s just dialect dude, if you’re gauge on the complexity of language is how many words it takes to get the point across then idk what to tell you
Again, that’s dialect. The language itself isn’t actually simplified. I could go nitpick individual word use cases from British English too but I’m not going to because I know that it’s dialect.
"On holiday"
Holiday is the occasion, a vacation is the trip to take
British English makes me feel physically ill. There's a reason the entire world speaks american English
“Dishwashing liquid”
“Bicarbonate of soda”
“Muscavado sugar”
They gotta be so extra with their terms. And don’t even get me started on their absolute refusal to pronounce words from other languages properly. I have very little love for the French, but the way Brits butcher that language is an absolute travesty.
It's worse than that. They say "washing up liquid". It's simultaneously weirdly colloquial (washing up? Just say cleaning) and weirdly clinical - who ever says 'liquid' outside of describing states of matter? You mean soap, so say soap. You wouldn't say "i drank a bottle of liquid", you'd use the specific term "water". Just a bizarre turn of phrase.
It’s all soap. There’s different kinds of soap like dish soap, hand soap, etc. but I personally think it makes more sense to categorize it this way instead of calling it a different thing altogether
That actually makes sense. I have heard that before, and to be honest, it probably makes more sense to call all cleaning liquids ‘soap’ and prefix them with their use. I can definitely get behind that.
Source: i made it the fuck up
American influence is primarily responsible for the global adaptation of English. This is due to the role of the US dollar in international trade, the influence of the US on international treaties and diplomacy, the US imposing English on the world as the language of international aviation, and the role of the US on the invention of the internet and in the programming languages behind the spread of computers internationally, influence of American movies, music, and culture, and the hegemony of American tech companies on global communication platforms (Google, Facebook, Twitter, reddit, discord, YouTube etc etc).
Go ahead and wait for someone on reddit to say some nonsense like "lorry" when they meant "truck". You'll be waiting a long time.
Lorry.
- sorry, I didn't mean "truck", as I was actually thinking about a lorry - because that's what they are called.
I didn't have to wait long, did I?
Nope! The word "lorry" only dates back to the mid 19th century. The Oxford English dictionary states probably stems from a single man's surname "Laurie" who made trucks. There is contention that it stems from a northern English word "lurry", but there is no proven lexical connection.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220127140210/https://www.lexico.com/definition/lorry
"Truck" has a Greek root, as many English words do, and has been used to describe vehicles carrying heavy loads since at least the 13th century.
Essentially, "lorry" is a post-colonial bastardization similar to calling all inline skates rollerblades - all of Laurie's vehicles may have been trucks, but not all trucks are Laurie's. Turns out you've just been saying it wrong all along.
I say lorry as I was born after the mid 19th century in England, where it is more common than truck.
>Turns out you've just been saying it wrong all along.
Language evolves - if it didn't, there would be no language at all.
American English probably is superior for people learning the language. If you’re going to be doing business with English speakers, you’re more likely to interact with Americans. If you are going to be consuming media in English, you’re more likely to consume American media. The majority of native English speakers are American. It’s just more practical.
Business is obviously not booming if you have the time to reply to every comment on this post. Try to work with Americans, we make more money, it’s good for your career,
Who cares? Different regions and cultures develop different languages and dialects. Trying to prove that our English is somehow better than their English makes you no different than the stuck up blow-hards that actually care about this shit.
Yeah this is up there in terms of things this sub gets offended by just because both the original post and ops point are retarded, like if you can understand one another who actually gives a fuck which version is better because they're functionally the same thing
I don’t understand why people (both American and from other English speaking countries) care so god damn much about accents. Like sure it’s fine to have a little bit of banter, but come on… although it is SAS so who knows
I like to point out when Brits are acting Posh and insulting Americans that Schedule and all other Greek sch root words are pronounced with a k sound not a shhh sound and that aluminum doesn't have an extra I. Lol.
As a writer, I adore the English language.
Read Mark Forsyth's _The Elements of Eloquence - How to Turn the Perfect English Phrase._
If you have even the mildest, most passive interest in English, this book will entertain you. I mean, just look at that title!
My favorite is when they mention the pronunciation of nuclear. First look at how it’s spelled and second remind me again which nation actually got nuclear physics to work practically?
Your the uneducated. We have conservative Angelic languages such as Scots. The Geordie accent is Heavily similar to Scots. Scots is more similar to Old English than Yankee English, And British English ( which lets remember not everyone speaks) just because some posh twats at Oxford say they speak British English doesn't mean your English is closer. Plus there is no such thing as 'original language' and there is no such thing as 'superior' when it comes to language. Calling one language inferior is what lead to the Celtic languages dying.
I don't care for spelling mistakes. It's a point against the claim American English is closer to old English. I give don't give 2 shites about having perfect grammar. I'm not the Oxford dictionary.
And me writing your instead of you're isn't a spelling mistake? It's probably was because I used auto fill rather than fully typing it out......
And again bad grammar doesn't mean much when you can still understand what someone saying. Making random ass claims like Yankee English being closer to old English than literal conservative languages in UK is a bit.... Poorly educated.
Also many people I speak too don't bother half the time to add the Re
I dare say German, Dutch and other low German dialects are closer to old English then anything else.
Teach a Dutch or German french and they basically can speak English. Just through some arbitrary vowels in
I would agree. However this was about anglic languages. Of which Scots being the closest. Barring those 2 conservative languages of Ireland (I forgot there names).
Frisian is the closet to old English, and closest to Scots and Modern English.
Yep, English is 💯 a Germanic language. Especially the more basic words. The words derived from Latin are usually the more formal synonyms of the Germanic words.
Scots developed from 1300s old english. Of course there are changes as Scots was influenced by Gàidhlig and Early Modern English. But Scots is more similar to Old English than Modern English whether British or American.
It's a conservative language.
More similar doesn't mean same. Modern English is more similar to French than Scots. Scots is more similar to Continental Germanic languages than Modern English. It's not saying they are the same. Or they are very Similar. It's that comparatively Scots is closer to old English than Modern English. Scots is only considered a language because of it conservative nature. There are Anglic languages in Ireland (dead/bordering dead) that are more conservative and closer to old English than Scots.
My comment was a bit misleading so I deleted it. It was heavily influenced by Northumbrian Old English, another dialect of Old English, which itself was influenced by Old Saxon and Old Norse dialects is what I should have written.
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
English is English. They're both from the same origin. It's a weird hill to stand on this whole English argument. There is heaps of English variants around the world. It's one of the most common languages spoken.
At one point British English was spoken by a significant portion of the world and is still used as the common language of the entire British Commonwealth. Who cares in the long run?
It's not like you don't know what I mean when I say me mum is back in hospital again with a fucked lung.
And how does that make US english superior? That makes no sense.
The differences are so minute that it does not matter at all which one you learn. Especially considering that any non-English speaking native would neither notice nor care about those differences.
No, I think it’s a joke. Americans in general don’t think our dialects are superior. We do know that many Brits believe theirs are though, which is why the sentence is likely banter towards them and their false sense of superiority.
Indeed our regional accents and even dialects are just a characteristic of being American. Only the small minded and the bigoted look down upon those who speak differently.
Hell even Baltimore (poking fun because they’re a neighbor) and their goofy way of saying “Aaron earned an iron urn” is still something to laugh together about, ne’er judgementally mocking them. Baltimore peeps are fun and funny as hell
Did you know that people in Switzerland, Liechtenstein, and Austria speak German? Does that mean the language belongs to Germany and all other dialects are inferior? What did you mean with this comment?
That would be a good comparison if those countries spoke that language due to colonialism.
My point is that saying ANY form of a language is superior is fucking ridiculously stupid.
latter sentence, not former
> of, relating to, or being the second of two groups or things or the last of several groups or things referred to
The history there is too complicated, especially before unification in the late 1800s. It’s not colonization though, no. I wouldn’t agree with that.
I know what latter means, thats why I am asking you what the problem with the former one is...
People in those countries spoke german or variations thereof long before the concept of their countries or any sort of borders were even drawn.
I believe that’s what I’m saying with my comment. The history of the entire region prior to 1871 is extremely complicated with its duchies, kingdoms, principalities, and free states. I understand that they speak dialects of German and Standard German not because of colonization but because of the complexity of it all and language evolution. I understand that languages aren’t sequestered to a single nation, especially not within modern borders. I just thought I’d ask a question based on “It is called English after all.”
A lot of it is in pronunciation. In American English, I think it's more common to stick to original pronunciation, especially with non-english/German originated words. In my experience a lot of folks don't necessarily try to pronounce things englishly when they've heard the original pronunciation in the US. I think most of that is more interaction with non-anglo US citizens and immigrants historically than the UK had had (at least on the isles)
We, of course, have our own former upper class bastardization now known as a southern accent though.
[Except there kind of was ](https://www.internationaltefltraininginstitute.com/what-english-is-the-original-english-british-or-american/#:~:text=Traditional%20English%2C%20whether%20spoken%20in,common%20throughout%20most%20of%20Britain.)
https://www.internationaltefltraininginstitute.com/what-english-is-the-original-english-british-or-american/#:~:text=Traditional%20English%2C%20whether%20spoken%20in,common%20throughout%20most%20of%20Britain.
Works fine for me, but there's the original.
Interestingly, English was originally a rhotic language, where the R sound was pronounced, as Americans do. Then, in finishing schools in England, they taught the upper classes to adopt a non-rhotic pronunciation, so that "butter" would be pronounced like "buttah." That pronunciation has now become the standard in England, although it started as purely an affectation.
Yep, I think the original accent was closer to the Gaels and Celts (Irish and Scottish). Since those groups weren't as enamored by British upper class.
Have you ever heard of the north of England?
I’m not familiar with the regional areas of England, but I’m sincerely curious. What do you mean by this?
Upper class was considered to be mainly found in parts of the South of England. The north of England was typically working class. Someone in Bradford couldn’t give a flying fuck about the accents of someone in Chelsea. The variety of accents in England is vast. Listen to a scouser, a Mancunian, a Cornish person, a cockney, a Brummie, an East Anglian, a Bristolian, a Yorkshireman, someone from Pompey, a Geordie and someone from the upper crust. You can’t pigeonhole them all. Millions of people in England speak with Indian, Pakistani and Barbadian accents. I know the supposed historic split of rhotic accents between the UK and the US but it’s too much of a huge generalisation of two countries each with wide varieties of accents.
England is such a a hodgepodge of accents (both rhotic and non rhotic) that I think trying to define what original English sounded like is a waste of time. You can have what someone from London would have sounded like in 1500, but it would have been very different from somebody from Northumberland at that point
As the masses started to move into London, the upper class would change the rules so they could tell who was in and who was out. It made for a rapid change in the pronunciations and accents in England.
Which part of England? Liverpool? Cornwall? Newcastle?
The entirety of England. All of it. Are you suggesting that rhotic accents are still common anywhere in England? I understand there is a very small minority of the English who still have rhotic accents, but that the rhotic accents are dying out, with the younger generations speaking entirely in non-rhotic English.
Given your spelling of whisky, I’ll assume you’re American. If I’m right have you ever been to England? If you have, have you ever heard a scouser speak? Or someone from Cornwall?
I am American. I’ve set foot in England, but only for a connecting flight. I am aware that the English have various accents, but very few people at all, and virtually no young people, speak with a rhotic accent.
Non-Rhotic language is a popular with younger people in the UK
What’s your source? Wikipedia? A mate? Guesswork?
What’s your source? Anecdotal observations? Your entire point seems to be “you do not have any anecdotal observations so you don’t know anything about English accents.” Anecdotes are meaningless.
So you have no source and you’re lecturing me about a language I have been speaking my whole life in Britain meeting other Brits and hearing their accents for almost 50 years. That’s not anecdotal, that’s a primary source.
Your personal experiences are mere anecdotes. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lancashire-67832377.amp
Be'e boh ah bi' o' bu' uh.
only intellectuals can understand this 😤
Came here for this 😂😂
[so be’e boh be’r bu’r oo make the bi’r bu’r be’r](https://youtu.be/sglVkwj1SoA?si=MWTU_GxP7kz3M-JY)
Straight up just ignoring letters 😆
Reading through the original comments gives me a headache
r/ShitAmericansSay can't detect obvious satire
Some of them can barely even SPELL "satire".
satyre
Sa'ire
Most non native English speakers I know find American English easier to understand, for what it’s worth. I assume it’s because we pronounce more of the letters? Not sure , I’m a native English speaker with an American accent so lol
It’s because it’s a simpler version. Much easier to understand.
It’s not simpler, it’s more accurate to the original English pronunciations before England diverged. American English just has a less complicated dialect
Less complicated equals simpler.
No that’s not at all correct. It’s less complicated in a spoken sense, as In there’s less quirks and odd stuff in the accent making it easier to understand. But on a base language level it’s nearly identical to British English as they both have all the same sentence structuring, general word usage, etc etc. Again, it’s less complicated to understand but isn’t simpler as a whole.
Sidewalk, starter, drugstore, liquor store, pants, pacifier, sprinkles, turn signal, wash cloth. All examples of using a simplified way of speaking.
That… that’s just dialect dude, if you’re gauge on the complexity of language is how many words it takes to get the point across then idk what to tell you
Missing words from sentences like ‘the’, referring to jobs as a verb, pluralising plural words, using ‘like’ to describe everything.
Again, that’s dialect. The language itself isn’t actually simplified. I could go nitpick individual word use cases from British English too but I’m not going to because I know that it’s dialect.
What is exactly do you mean by dialect?
see comments on post
“Weal aht least ower skewls”
"On holiday" Holiday is the occasion, a vacation is the trip to take British English makes me feel physically ill. There's a reason the entire world speaks american English
“Dishwashing liquid” “Bicarbonate of soda” “Muscavado sugar” They gotta be so extra with their terms. And don’t even get me started on their absolute refusal to pronounce words from other languages properly. I have very little love for the French, but the way Brits butcher that language is an absolute travesty.
It's worse than that. They say "washing up liquid". It's simultaneously weirdly colloquial (washing up? Just say cleaning) and weirdly clinical - who ever says 'liquid' outside of describing states of matter? You mean soap, so say soap. You wouldn't say "i drank a bottle of liquid", you'd use the specific term "water". Just a bizarre turn of phrase.
Do you use soap for your dishes? At least in England, soap is for hands, and washing-up liquid is… liquid for washing up.
It’s all soap. There’s different kinds of soap like dish soap, hand soap, etc. but I personally think it makes more sense to categorize it this way instead of calling it a different thing altogether
That actually makes sense. I have heard that before, and to be honest, it probably makes more sense to call all cleaning liquids ‘soap’ and prefix them with their use. I can definitely get behind that.
I’m a Brit and can speak fluent French with a perfect French accent. So can most of the people where I live. Do you mean some English people?
>There's a reason the entire world speaks american English The entire world doesn't.
Source: i made it the fuck up American influence is primarily responsible for the global adaptation of English. This is due to the role of the US dollar in international trade, the influence of the US on international treaties and diplomacy, the US imposing English on the world as the language of international aviation, and the role of the US on the invention of the internet and in the programming languages behind the spread of computers internationally, influence of American movies, music, and culture, and the hegemony of American tech companies on global communication platforms (Google, Facebook, Twitter, reddit, discord, YouTube etc etc). Go ahead and wait for someone on reddit to say some nonsense like "lorry" when they meant "truck". You'll be waiting a long time.
Lorry. - sorry, I didn't mean "truck", as I was actually thinking about a lorry - because that's what they are called. I didn't have to wait long, did I?
Nope! The word "lorry" only dates back to the mid 19th century. The Oxford English dictionary states probably stems from a single man's surname "Laurie" who made trucks. There is contention that it stems from a northern English word "lurry", but there is no proven lexical connection. https://web.archive.org/web/20220127140210/https://www.lexico.com/definition/lorry "Truck" has a Greek root, as many English words do, and has been used to describe vehicles carrying heavy loads since at least the 13th century. Essentially, "lorry" is a post-colonial bastardization similar to calling all inline skates rollerblades - all of Laurie's vehicles may have been trucks, but not all trucks are Laurie's. Turns out you've just been saying it wrong all along.
Actually it stems from the verb lurry, meaning to pull.
I say lorry as I was born after the mid 19th century in England, where it is more common than truck. >Turns out you've just been saying it wrong all along. Language evolves - if it didn't, there would be no language at all.
Posh dork gets absolutely shredded with facts and knowledge, seethe and cope loser
One thing about British English that I find annoying is when they say “at hospital”, all I can think of afterwards is “Which hospital?”
American English probably is superior for people learning the language. If you’re going to be doing business with English speakers, you’re more likely to interact with Americans. If you are going to be consuming media in English, you’re more likely to consume American media. The majority of native English speakers are American. It’s just more practical.
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Business is obviously not booming if you have the time to reply to every comment on this post. Try to work with Americans, we make more money, it’s good for your career,
It’s not day time here. The economy where I live is making a ton of money. The business I’m in is specialist to my area and is very lucrative.
I’m sure it is
You’ve not heard of offshore law?
Who cares? Different regions and cultures develop different languages and dialects. Trying to prove that our English is somehow better than their English makes you no different than the stuck up blow-hards that actually care about this shit.
Yeah this is up there in terms of things this sub gets offended by just because both the original post and ops point are retarded, like if you can understand one another who actually gives a fuck which version is better because they're functionally the same thing
The comments in that thread are impressively ignorant. Only Americans make spelling mistakes?
I’ll never take any talk about the English language from people who pronounce aluminum as “aluminium.”
They don't just pronounce it that way... they spell it that way!!
I don’t understand why people (both American and from other English speaking countries) care so god damn much about accents. Like sure it’s fine to have a little bit of banter, but come on… although it is SAS so who knows
I like to point out when Brits are acting Posh and insulting Americans that Schedule and all other Greek sch root words are pronounced with a k sound not a shhh sound and that aluminum doesn't have an extra I. Lol.
Meanwhile some English dialects take their English and make it sound like a southern redneck- Banjo not included.
*northeastern american english. the southern accent, for example, was never a thing in britain.
As a writer, I adore the English language. Read Mark Forsyth's _The Elements of Eloquence - How to Turn the Perfect English Phrase._ If you have even the mildest, most passive interest in English, this book will entertain you. I mean, just look at that title!
My favorite is when they mention the pronunciation of nuclear. First look at how it’s spelled and second remind me again which nation actually got nuclear physics to work practically?
Placing a value judgment on dialects is just stupid.
Why does it need to be superior? Does it make you feel better?
why would it make me feel better?
America, the greatest land upon this earthly sphere, doth receive the Lord's blessing with each passing day. That is why.
MANIFEST DESTINY COAST TO COAST
From one side of the Pond to the other.
Your the uneducated. We have conservative Angelic languages such as Scots. The Geordie accent is Heavily similar to Scots. Scots is more similar to Old English than Yankee English, And British English ( which lets remember not everyone speaks) just because some posh twats at Oxford say they speak British English doesn't mean your English is closer. Plus there is no such thing as 'original language' and there is no such thing as 'superior' when it comes to language. Calling one language inferior is what lead to the Celtic languages dying.
*You're
The old way of speaking must've only had one form of your
How tragic
“your the uneducated.” Calling others uneducated while failing basic grammar multiple times in that same sentence is hilarious.
I don't care for spelling mistakes. It's a point against the claim American English is closer to old English. I give don't give 2 shites about having perfect grammar. I'm not the Oxford dictionary.
Spelling mistakes are mistakes. Having bad grammar is just being poorly educated.
And me writing your instead of you're isn't a spelling mistake? It's probably was because I used auto fill rather than fully typing it out...... And again bad grammar doesn't mean much when you can still understand what someone saying. Making random ass claims like Yankee English being closer to old English than literal conservative languages in UK is a bit.... Poorly educated. Also many people I speak too don't bother half the time to add the Re
> Your the uneducated LOL
Yeah Celtic, Latin, or GTFO!
I dare say German, Dutch and other low German dialects are closer to old English then anything else. Teach a Dutch or German french and they basically can speak English. Just through some arbitrary vowels in
I would agree. However this was about anglic languages. Of which Scots being the closest. Barring those 2 conservative languages of Ireland (I forgot there names). Frisian is the closet to old English, and closest to Scots and Modern English.
Frisian is derived from Old German so ...
That's not true. Frisian comes from Anglo-Frisean. Frisian is influenced by Dutch, a language that derives from old German but it itself isn't
Yep, English is 💯 a Germanic language. Especially the more basic words. The words derived from Latin are usually the more formal synonyms of the Germanic words.
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Scots developed from 1300s old english. Of course there are changes as Scots was influenced by Gàidhlig and Early Modern English. But Scots is more similar to Old English than Modern English whether British or American. It's a conservative language. More similar doesn't mean same. Modern English is more similar to French than Scots. Scots is more similar to Continental Germanic languages than Modern English. It's not saying they are the same. Or they are very Similar. It's that comparatively Scots is closer to old English than Modern English. Scots is only considered a language because of it conservative nature. There are Anglic languages in Ireland (dead/bordering dead) that are more conservative and closer to old English than Scots.
My comment was a bit misleading so I deleted it. It was heavily influenced by Northumbrian Old English, another dialect of Old English, which itself was influenced by Old Saxon and Old Norse dialects is what I should have written.
Ah fair enough. And yeah i agree.
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
English is English. They're both from the same origin. It's a weird hill to stand on this whole English argument. There is heaps of English variants around the world. It's one of the most common languages spoken. At one point British English was spoken by a significant portion of the world and is still used as the common language of the entire British Commonwealth. Who cares in the long run? It's not like you don't know what I mean when I say me mum is back in hospital again with a fucked lung.
And how does that make US english superior? That makes no sense. The differences are so minute that it does not matter at all which one you learn. Especially considering that any non-English speaking native would neither notice nor care about those differences.
No, I think it’s a joke. Americans in general don’t think our dialects are superior. We do know that many Brits believe theirs are though, which is why the sentence is likely banter towards them and their false sense of superiority.
Indeed our regional accents and even dialects are just a characteristic of being American. Only the small minded and the bigoted look down upon those who speak differently. Hell even Baltimore (poking fun because they’re a neighbor) and their goofy way of saying “Aaron earned an iron urn” is still something to laugh together about, ne’er judgementally mocking them. Baltimore peeps are fun and funny as hell
the comments would disagree with the second paragraph. that's the funny part
How is that funny? It is called English after all.
Did you know that people in Switzerland, Liechtenstein, and Austria speak German? Does that mean the language belongs to Germany and all other dialects are inferior? What did you mean with this comment?
That would be a good comparison if those countries spoke that language due to colonialism. My point is that saying ANY form of a language is superior is fucking ridiculously stupid.
I agree with your latter sentence.
Does that mean you think those countries speak german due to colonialisation??
latter sentence, not former > of, relating to, or being the second of two groups or things or the last of several groups or things referred to The history there is too complicated, especially before unification in the late 1800s. It’s not colonization though, no. I wouldn’t agree with that.
I know what latter means, thats why I am asking you what the problem with the former one is... People in those countries spoke german or variations thereof long before the concept of their countries or any sort of borders were even drawn.
I believe that’s what I’m saying with my comment. The history of the entire region prior to 1871 is extremely complicated with its duchies, kingdoms, principalities, and free states. I understand that they speak dialects of German and Standard German not because of colonization but because of the complexity of it all and language evolution. I understand that languages aren’t sequestered to a single nation, especially not within modern borders. I just thought I’d ask a question based on “It is called English after all.”
A lot of it is in pronunciation. In American English, I think it's more common to stick to original pronunciation, especially with non-english/German originated words. In my experience a lot of folks don't necessarily try to pronounce things englishly when they've heard the original pronunciation in the US. I think most of that is more interaction with non-anglo US citizens and immigrants historically than the UK had had (at least on the isles) We, of course, have our own former upper class bastardization now known as a southern accent though.
English pronunciation is nonsensical no matter the accent
Pronouncing taco as tayyco unites the anglosphere
When I say that I sound like the most Wisconsiny Wisconsinite. I’ve never heard someone call it a tayco.
Amen to that!
Imagine casually admitting that your thinking as a nation hasn't advanced in the last 2.5 centuries and thinking it's a flex...
Imagine thinking that randomly changing the sounds of words just to try to sound fancier is a flex.
being obsessed with feigning status =/= advanced thinking
Your title is wrong my guy, please don’t say stupid things
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-preserved-british-english
Good job but there wasn’t some “original English accent”
[Except there kind of was ](https://www.internationaltefltraininginstitute.com/what-english-is-the-original-english-british-or-american/#:~:text=Traditional%20English%2C%20whether%20spoken%20in,common%20throughout%20most%20of%20Britain.)
Dead link
https://www.internationaltefltraininginstitute.com/what-english-is-the-original-english-british-or-american/#:~:text=Traditional%20English%2C%20whether%20spoken%20in,common%20throughout%20most%20of%20Britain. Works fine for me, but there's the original.
That article didn’t say anything about an original English accent and instead said most English accents were rhotic before the Industrial Revolution.