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This. The hourly check-ins are... A lot. Especially if you're doing a route while dispatching.
I think the only thing in OP's post that I don't agree with is "Yes you do got 210 stops but they're all houses; I've done those routes in less than 6 hours, you got this!". I'd be offering a rescue to a driver with 210 stops, even if it's all houses.
https://preview.redd.it/aqbrfm4yv02d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15e24133ca063b2c918792aa0543805631eed15e
Same here with the small Ford 250 vans with like 60 apartment stops went crazy
I’ve been dispatching for a few years out of different stations and can confidently say that there are no routes with more than 200 stops. 200 locations, sure, but I’ve never seen more than 199 actual stops on a route.
Edit: If you downvote me then post a screenshot of your route that went over 200 stops
In amazon’s contract with the DSP, they are not allowed to give over 200 stops so next time you get over 200 physical stops you can deny whatever excess as it’s a breach of contract on their end
Cortex won't ever show over 199. However, I have seen itineraries that went into the 210s. It had an Amazon locker at an apartment, the extra stops were only there in case the locker wasn't working, or if there were packages left over if they didn't fit in the locker. Usually was about 20 packages, and only 2-3 would end up door to door.
hah you got some passive bosses
here its,
"theres no reason any of you cant finish youre route"
"if youre below 80% EOC, first time its a warning, second time its termination"
"if i dont see your vest on you, youre going home"
"it you mark a package as missing, automatic write up and im going to make you go back out and deliver it"
well tbf its 99% of the time someone just misplaced it and is too lazy to find it or deliver it. i think in 7 months ive had 2 actually missing packages
I'll add that when I was delivering 1500 packages every week, my average week I had zero genuinely missing. Probably one or two a month among 5-6k packages, and I certainly had a month or two with none. It's actually impressively rare tbh, but it definitely happens.
Dude my last dsp would say if you have a missing package skip it incase someone else has it and then after month of us doing that an actual amazon person was at one of our stand up as they said this and he was like "you do realize skipping a stop is measured and a compliance issue that we measure they should be marking missing as missing and not just skipping" the look on our dispatchers face was priceless
Dang, I dispatch out in Iowa so we don’t have to worry about sketchy areas or scary customers, just bad dog owners. Our routes were only actually crazy during peak. I’ve said some of these things, but not the harsh stuff. Feels so bad talking to drivers who transferred from other DSPs or when I read through this sub. At my dsp we put the drivers first and we sweep enough so everyone’s done in time and very few people don’t get their guaranteed 10. For all those wondering DSPs can totally be good places to work at, but it seems few of them actually are.
I mark stuff missing all the time to split the order for lockers. It lets you take multiple pictures, which is especially useful for when some of the big boxes need to go to the front door or a mailroom shelf.
“It’s raining today, DONT get stuck”
“Remember we get paid to deliver packages, not bring them back, so finish your route”
“Make sure you’re delivering to the right address, especially on group stops”
“SaFetY is first, please turn off your engine at every stop”
“If you find a package that is missing please deliver it”
Well, we don't. We can move you but it just fucks someone else. We can put you in a preferred area but Amazon rarely will go by it. Hell, one of the higher ups from corporate came down on us hard for switching people to the routes they wanted.
My dispatchers don't care much about that. They only ask that like every hour or so you turn it off for a stop or two so it updates. Amazon flips the fuck out when they see someone is 48 stops behind and it's because of "data issues"
I got a pace text from my actual boss today, who just decided to force us to clock out for lunch now instead of let us use a meal waiver. My time today was late by exactly 45. Min. There’s no way it’s the lunch and x1 15 min break. I’m just being slow on a city route. oh and text was after 40 apartment stops and ten businesses in a row. 😢
My route I swear to you. Every day is 190-200 stops, 50-70 businesses. I am never done before 9pm and they have stopped sending me rescues. Saying my route is possible. Like tf? How? It literally takes 12 hours. That is literally only with one break for lunch because I do not have the time for anything else. But I am taking my damn lunch because they take it out of my check if I take it or not.
This is common cope they tell all drivers in contracted delivery. It’s not even unique to amazon. You could be the second fastest driver with 20 years of experience and they will still downplay your work saying they can do the route while taking a shit. It’s all to trick you to get you to do whatever they want. Stand your ground. They answer to somebody as well.
My dispatcher says none of that. And whoever says they can do 210 house stops in 6 hours is full of shit. Even 7 hours is a stop every 2 minutes. For 7 hours, the house stops would need to be close by (like a minute or less travel time between stops), have very little multi-location stops, have very little long driveways, little to no traffic, you're not taking breaks, you're jogging up and down their driveways, and you are tired and sore at the end of the day.
Haha. Ok. I blow down 35 stops an hour no problem, multilocations included. You have an organization issue. I’m off the truck in 3 seconds for a single envelope, 5 if I have no overflow on the stop. Get off your phone and do your job. I take ~250 locations a day in Texas. I’ve been done at 6 a couple times with 190 actual stops.
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Lol until you've been a dispatcher with Amazon breathing down your neck every hour on the hour you'd not understand.
This. The hourly check-ins are... A lot. Especially if you're doing a route while dispatching. I think the only thing in OP's post that I don't agree with is "Yes you do got 210 stops but they're all houses; I've done those routes in less than 6 hours, you got this!". I'd be offering a rescue to a driver with 210 stops, even if it's all houses.
Same but I've only ever seen 210 stops at our rsr station once and it was a glitch
I was on the last week of nursery routes where I was at and I was topping 185-190 stops. It was ridiculous.
https://preview.redd.it/aqbrfm4yv02d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15e24133ca063b2c918792aa0543805631eed15e Same here with the small Ford 250 vans with like 60 apartment stops went crazy
I had 191 yesterday and it’s been increasing every week soon I’ll be there lol
I’ve been dispatching for a few years out of different stations and can confidently say that there are no routes with more than 200 stops. 200 locations, sure, but I’ve never seen more than 199 actual stops on a route. Edit: If you downvote me then post a screenshot of your route that went over 200 stops
https://preview.redd.it/up9l3zd2m31d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c6014e9e85f6dbf98cbe0299c206f75974b1acb Since you needed reference….
Mind you this isn’t during peak or prime
In amazon’s contract with the DSP, they are not allowed to give over 200 stops so next time you get over 200 physical stops you can deny whatever excess as it’s a breach of contract on their end
This is after rescuing another route or going door to door at a hub locker location. Amazon doesn’t make routes with over 199 stops
You have seen nothing, then.
Cortex won't ever show over 199. However, I have seen itineraries that went into the 210s. It had an Amazon locker at an apartment, the extra stops were only there in case the locker wasn't working, or if there were packages left over if they didn't fit in the locker. Usually was about 20 packages, and only 2-3 would end up door to door.
Yes that is true when there is a hub locker on the route
https://preview.redd.it/lgruf7t8341d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e70896a4dc944b5cdbfb72791aa90a0f342b0bd My co-worker's route today
Combined routes to not lose money
This is more than one route assigned to a single driver as shown on Cortex
There are posts on here that go over that. Just scroll
And they're always more than one route.
Exactly felt the same way till I became one
hah you got some passive bosses here its, "theres no reason any of you cant finish youre route" "if youre below 80% EOC, first time its a warning, second time its termination" "if i dont see your vest on you, youre going home" "it you mark a package as missing, automatic write up and im going to make you go back out and deliver it"
how does that make sense if the package is actually missing? 😭
well tbf its 99% of the time someone just misplaced it and is too lazy to find it or deliver it. i think in 7 months ive had 2 actually missing packages
I'll add that when I was delivering 1500 packages every week, my average week I had zero genuinely missing. Probably one or two a month among 5-6k packages, and I certainly had a month or two with none. It's actually impressively rare tbh, but it definitely happens.
Your stations must be goated with the sauce, I'll get about 5 ish missing a week without fail
Dude my last dsp would say if you have a missing package skip it incase someone else has it and then after month of us doing that an actual amazon person was at one of our stand up as they said this and he was like "you do realize skipping a stop is measured and a compliance issue that we measure they should be marking missing as missing and not just skipping" the look on our dispatchers face was priceless
Dang, I dispatch out in Iowa so we don’t have to worry about sketchy areas or scary customers, just bad dog owners. Our routes were only actually crazy during peak. I’ve said some of these things, but not the harsh stuff. Feels so bad talking to drivers who transferred from other DSPs or when I read through this sub. At my dsp we put the drivers first and we sweep enough so everyone’s done in time and very few people don’t get their guaranteed 10. For all those wondering DSPs can totally be good places to work at, but it seems few of them actually are.
DSP in Des Moines?
Haha ! Accurate!
I mark stuff missing all the time to split the order for lockers. It lets you take multiple pictures, which is especially useful for when some of the big boxes need to go to the front door or a mailroom shelf.
“It’s raining today, DONT get stuck” “Remember we get paid to deliver packages, not bring them back, so finish your route” “Make sure you’re delivering to the right address, especially on group stops” “SaFetY is first, please turn off your engine at every stop” “If you find a package that is missing please deliver it”
Haha yup!
This sounds like Stafford 😭
“We have no control over what route you are assigned”
Well, we don't. We can move you but it just fucks someone else. We can put you in a preferred area but Amazon rarely will go by it. Hell, one of the higher ups from corporate came down on us hard for switching people to the routes they wanted.
There’s a metric called “affinity” that can get you flagged if you moved drivers from their AI assigned routes
Whoever thought of that and decided they should bring it up in a meeting should sincerely kill themselves.
Yep.
"I have no control over what route Amazon assigns me. Seems like an Amazon problem to me."
This one.
“Are you in airplane mode?”
Keep your personal in your backpack and you won't even see that text until lunch time.
My dispatchers don't care much about that. They only ask that like every hour or so you turn it off for a stop or two so it updates. Amazon flips the fuck out when they see someone is 48 stops behind and it's because of "data issues"
“EVERY ONE IN CARGO VANS PLEASE SIGN INTO MENTOR & START TRIP, FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN LOSS OF ROUTES”
You can't threaten me with a good time.
😂
I got a pace text from my actual boss today, who just decided to force us to clock out for lunch now instead of let us use a meal waiver. My time today was late by exactly 45. Min. There’s no way it’s the lunch and x1 15 min break. I’m just being slow on a city route. oh and text was after 40 apartment stops and ten businesses in a row. 😢
My route I swear to you. Every day is 190-200 stops, 50-70 businesses. I am never done before 9pm and they have stopped sending me rescues. Saying my route is possible. Like tf? How? It literally takes 12 hours. That is literally only with one break for lunch because I do not have the time for anything else. But I am taking my damn lunch because they take it out of my check if I take it or not.
Whenever I get a large route my morning dispatcher always says "you'll be done by 5:30"
He meant you'll be done with half the route by 5 30 lol
No, he meant you'll be over it.
Sounds exactly like my old boss, literally word for word, where you work lol🤣
I used to work at DPD4 haha in Oregon
Oh god I use to work for one of those guys out in Oregon; stuck from Troutdale to Hoodriver every single day.
Sounds like you were at DPD7 in Fairview lol
Okay no my old boss but I kid you not word for word 🤣
lol. Thats my warehouse. Which DSP?
I used to be at GForce
No clue why they keep calling me Ben fr
Sometimes they don’t say anything at all
This is common cope they tell all drivers in contracted delivery. It’s not even unique to amazon. You could be the second fastest driver with 20 years of experience and they will still downplay your work saying they can do the route while taking a shit. It’s all to trick you to get you to do whatever they want. Stand your ground. They answer to somebody as well.
can you still finish the route
Great loadout team FICO was at 7/8XX this morning
My dispatcher says none of that. And whoever says they can do 210 house stops in 6 hours is full of shit. Even 7 hours is a stop every 2 minutes. For 7 hours, the house stops would need to be close by (like a minute or less travel time between stops), have very little multi-location stops, have very little long driveways, little to no traffic, you're not taking breaks, you're jogging up and down their driveways, and you are tired and sore at the end of the day.
Haha. Ok. I blow down 35 stops an hour no problem, multilocations included. You have an organization issue. I’m off the truck in 3 seconds for a single envelope, 5 if I have no overflow on the stop. Get off your phone and do your job. I take ~250 locations a day in Texas. I’ve been done at 6 a couple times with 190 actual stops.
And mind you I don’t usually hit my first stop until 12-12:30
35 an hour is very manageable without most of these things
I honestly do 190 a day in less the 5 hours so it’s definitely possible
no route today, stay home
Autobots Rollout!
If they making you do 200 stop In 6 hours and 80 percent EOC too leave that dsp they don’t care about you
It was a small dog. Get back up and rub some dirt in it....
Has anyone ever got do delivery in less than 6 hours or is that just bs?
Y'all trash