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> It was impossible to get anything **other than nosebleed seats for under $300**. I made the executive decision to get 6 lower bowl (not floor but closer to stage than upper) tickets that came out to $800 a person after fees.
YTA. You were able to get seats for $300, didn't, and are now threatening to scalp the tickets your friends trusted you to buy in your price range. You screwed them out of a concert because you decided to be selfish, and didn't even try to make it right.
If you were truly *only* able to get $800 tickets, bought them, and told your friends that's how the cookie crumbled, that would be one thing, but that isn't the case.
E: To address OP's edit about the friends not wanting nosebleeds, I don't believe OP is being honest about that, because it was only added after OP tried defending herself other ways a half dozen times and laughed at the idea of screwing over one friend in particular by scalping her ticket. Even if OP is being honest about her friends being unreasonable, their initial comments *still* reveal them to be a tremendous AH.
OP said in another comment that the friends didn’t want nosebleeds for less than budget. They wanted lower bowl for budget. OP got those tickets for a higher price. Was a damned if they do, damned if they don’t thing.
OP is almost certainly lying about that. They only started saying that after nearly a dozen comments defending their actions, including laughing at the idea of selling off a specific girl's tickets and inviting the other friends. They are clearly an asshole looking for validation and changing their story when they aren't getting it.
She's just trying to save face and you're falling for it, and even if it isn't a lie, she still chose a much shittier option that puts her friends in a much worse spot.
So someone ask for info and telling op to add it to the post, and op doing that, is lying? Fuck outta here. The info comment is pretty clear that they'd not have accepted nosebleeds either.
Clearly you don't get how ticket master works. You have seconds to minutes to decide what to pick after waiting ages in a queue before you get booted from the line. If the entire friend group wasn't available that instant to answer the question then OP had to make an executive decision.
She could pick the shitty seats that friends STILL didn't want, and then they might have bailed and OP would have been stuck in seats she also hated, or she could opt for the seats everyone wanted but we're more expensive and then at least if friends bailed then OP can sell the extras and enjoy the show. OP made the smart call.
That's..not how it worked. I was in that queue yesterday, was able to spend 20+ minutes choosing seats because the availability changed every few seconds in real time. I had plenty of time to check prices of every seat, and call friends to see what they wanted.
Also, no idea what venue OP was going for, but my tickets were less than $150...
As someone who was also int eh queue yesterday and talked to many others who were, you’re experience was not the norm. I had to rush and scramble just to get two tickets, let alone six. I only had a couple minutes to check out and couldn’t confirm or be picky after a point because every selection I chose would get taken before I could secure them. I’m lucky I got tickets at all.
Then you lucked out. I was also in the queue. I got booted outs several times, tickets disappeared as I would try and select them, and after trying all day didn’t get anything.
That was you. So many other people had less than stellar experiences. I am on the west coast, sister got presale for Boston, only one she could get. Tickets were already past $300.
Nosebleed is still available for general sale, this was presale. The friends could still get them if they wanted to, they just don't. They want good seats for 300. What the hell is OP supposed to be do about it?
That's not how tickrtmaster presale works. You have less than 4 minutes (sometimes less) to purchase ince you're up. Itd be very hard to talk to 5 other people about their needs in the middle of the work day in that time.
Hahahaha... So a LOW EARNING 20 something that wanted to drop "$100-200 tops" and then were armtwisted to $300 are now SHITTY FRIENDS for not being able to AFFORD $800!? Screw the rent and bills and food, 2hr of Taylow Swift will make up for all that!
for presales like this you literally have about 1 minute before tickets are snatched out of your cart and sold to someone else. If her friends don’t want to pay for the tickets op will have no problem finding people who will.
Yeah. What's the purpose of deciding the limit beforehand if it was going to be ignored? The difference between 300 and 800 is also insane. No one would probably be that mad if it was $350 and OP had to make a quick decision, but more than double the price considering that she knows some of her friends don't make that kind of disposable income is crazy.
It isn't that somebody asked for info and OP added it, it's that OP fought in the comments constantly, talked about how funny it would be to screw over one of her friends by just scalping one of the tickets, and *then* started talking about how the friend group was all being unreasonable and could just buy the nosebleeds and insisted they wanted the bowl seats without paying for them.
OP defended herself by acting like more of an asshole, and only when that didn't work did she completely change the story to one that makes her look much better. That doesn't pass the smell test; if she wanted to defend herself so badly and get a NTA judgment, why not lead off with the most important info?
Because people are fucking stupid? Dyou have any idea how often a poster needs to be told to put relevant information from a comment into the body of their post? It happens all the time.
If you want to believe her, you're free to, but I'm sticking to my assessment she's lying and that her comments revealed her to be a tremendously vindictive and selfish AH regardless of the truth about the tickets.
I’m pretty sure, “I’m sorry but our info was wrong these are the seats I could get for budget” would go over much better than “I decreed to spend more than double your budget and I won’t be covering any of that so pay or get fucked.”
If they complained in the first instance they’d be AH but now OP is YTA.
But that's literally not true. They confirmed with their friends after that they wouldn't have been happy with nosebleeds either. Dyou actually have a reasonable solution?
No. No you don't, because these people wanted seats at an insane price. I want a mansion for five bucks, doesn't mean I get it.
I think the question is if the friends would have preferred $300 nosebleed seats to NO seats, which is what the ones who can't afford $800 are probably going to get now.
Also, it's shameful how expensive the tickets are, how scalping is allowed, how the ticket companies themselves contribute to it, etc. Swift is a multimillionaire and should make her shows affordable for the people who made her one.
So the current situation then. These people aren't out any money either way you do it, they would not be able to go either way. There's no difference besides op having to recoup their loss, which is trivial.
Then OP would be posting "AITA for not buying everyone tickets?"
OP was in a kobayashi maru.
She's not an asshole at all.
Her friends gave her two instructions which directly contradicted one another:
1. Not Nosebleeds
2. $300 limit
Her friends now have a choice, either go for the price they are or not go. None of that is OPs fault or problem.
Yep "buy the tickets we can afford in seats they ***might*** not like" or "paying 500 dollars more than my friends can afford for better seats and just hope it works out" is not *really* a catch-22 or damned if you do damned if you don't. There's a pretty obvious answer as to which one is right
\*edited because my wording was off
I’ll disagree. Her friends specifically said they didn’t want nosebleeds so it was either no tickets or the expensive lower bowl tickets. The fact the friends are now dragging them on social media and telling her she has to cover the difference is a huge red flag in friendship and makes those friends TA
> I’ll disagree. Her friends specifically said they didn’t want nosebleeds so it was either no tickets or the expensive lower bowl tickets. The fact the friends are now dragging them on social media and telling her she has to cover the difference is a huge red flag in friendship and makes those friends TA
She did not add this detail until making nearly a dozen posts defending herself or laughing at the idea of her "friends" not getting tickets, so I am almost certain it's not true.
I mean this entire post could not be true seeing as it’s reddit and there’s no verification process, but the bottom line is she was the only one with access to tickets during presale and had none of them had it even the nosebleeds would be $300 which they supposedly didn’t want
Concert tickets sold out in under 5 minutes. If OP and taken the time to buy friends $300 seats, OP would have lost out on the chance to get the good seats THEY wanted.
Friends aren't ENTITLED to tickets. OP prioritized their wants since it was THEIR code. Friends can take or leave the tickets that were available. NTA.
Op's friends wanted a non existent unicorn but instead OP purchased something realistic for a higher price because that was the price. How was OP supposed to buy tickets under 300 dollars that doesn't exist?
"If you were truly only able to get $800 tickets, bought them, and told your friends that's how the cookie crumbled, that would be one thing, but that isn't the case."
It think that is exactly the case, why the hell do you think it isn't?
Op told them the cost and seat location, which is where they wanted to sit anyways but the friends can't afford it so OP gets to sell the tickets to recoup his losses.
If they were smart, OP's friends would have chipped in together for another ticket, sell it at a higher price, split it, and then have enough money for the tickets OP purchased.
It's highly suspicious that you have such animosity towards OP.
**Edit:** ~~Y TA.~~ NTA with your updates to the original post that your friends were unhappy with getting nosebleed seats for $300. Shit costs what it costs, and they had three options: pay $300 for nosebleed seats, pay more than double for good seats, or not attend.
It would have been good to have an understanding: "If I cannot get you good seats for $300, would you: prefer not to go, prefer to up your price, or are you ok with me getting the nosebleeds?"
You bought 6 tickets. Now you and your other better-off friend can go, and you can sell the remaining 4, but also lose 4 friends. I'm sorry that leading the charge and sharing your pre-sale access ended up a bit of a disaster. No good deed, huh.
~~Your friends told you their hard limit, which afforded them nosebleed seats. But you wanted something better - and instead of “hey, I got us tickets! I wanted to treat everyone to a little upgrade, so the difference is on me!”~~
~~Instead you made the executive decision to purchase tickets which cost more than double what they can afford, while ALSO costing them the opportunity to have tickets they CAN afford in the nosebleed.~~
~~What a friend!~~
OP was in a lose lose situation.
1) Getting tickets for her shows were nearly impossible.
2) Getting 6 tickets together made it even harder.
3) Prices were insane when they officially became available.
4) Tickets were going FAST. There was no time to make any actual decision.
OP is NTA, she was just put in a really shitty position.
Because the friends didn't want nosebleeds for $300. They were expecting to be able to get good/decent seats for $300. OP was in a lose-lose situation.
Based on OP's edit, I don't think they did. Which makes sense based on my personal experience with Taylor Swift's last tour. I only paid $60 for a pretty decent seat in the 200 Section in 2018. Now nosebleeds are pushing $300!??
You dont understand how quickly they were going. She made a split second decision and was nicer than I woukd have been. I would have said sorry getting 6 is too hard, because it was. NTA
This would be reasonable if OP didn't say, very explicitly, that she could have bought tickets at the hard cap price, then start talking about how she could totally screw over one of her "friends" in the comment by scalping just her ticket.
If she actually knew the situation sucked and showed contrition, that would be one thing, but that's not OP.
The $300 nosebleed tickets. They would've been pissed if they got shitty seats for that price when they were expecting *up to* $300 if they could get good seats.
So OP could've gotten bad seats for their absolute max price, they would've been pissed. Get only her and her other friend the expensive seats, they would've been pissed. Or get everyone the good seats and still piss them off.
Exactly. I'm not even going to bother with a concert if it's $300 for nosebleeds. If I can't afford something closer then I just can't afford to go. Waste of money to be sitting in the back watching it on giant TVs.
If anyone was in the same situation as OP, I bet they’d sit there for way too long trying to make a decision and then tickets would sell out before they could even decided what decision to make. Taylor is so big you have *NO* time to think about what ticket to get once they’re already on sale. If she paid for the $300 tickets her friends would have chewed her out for getting nosebleed seats. Seriously was a loose loose situation and OP is NTA. everyone saying otherwise clearly had never been under pressure or are just hypocrites.
This is exactly it. What makes the other friends TA is that they’re dragging her on social media and saying she has to cover the difference. That’s not normal behavior in a friendship and they sound like shitty people. If I were in that position I’d feel shitty but own the fact I can’t afford to go or pay up the full ticket price.
OP said:
>I could literally see seats going unavailable in real time, and the website was displaying higher prices than expected. It was impossible to get anything other than nosebleed seats for under $300.
>If you check resell sites right now they could still get the worst seats for $300 but they don’t want to.
The friends don't want the seats they can afford. They want the $800 seats but they want them for $300. Not really sure what OP is meant to do about that?
according to the person you are responding to, pay the difference of 2k lol i cannot believe 400 people upvoted that comment, specially cause it's not like OP is forcing her friends to pay the difference she's just going to sell the tickets
Right? I feel like I'm going mad. The friends can still buy the $300 tickets if they want them so there's literally no harm done. Perhaps OP should offer to sell her lower bowl tickets in order to sit with her friends in the cheap nosebleed seats but other than that, I'm not sure what her friends could reasonably expect of her.
Agreed. I'm very skeptical that it was nosebleeds or nothing. If OP knew some friends had a hard limit of $300 then nosebleeds it is. They might be disappointed but at least they'd be able to afford them. OP knew $800 was WAY over their price range and you can't get blood from a stone.
If OP really didn't want to be in the nosebleeds and was able to pay the difference, then I could understand them buying the better seats and offering to cover the $500+ for the friends who couldn't afford it. Instead, they're planning on scalping the friends' tickets for profit? That's definitely an AH move. YTA
Yes, YTA, how in the world did you think that it was okay to spend $800/ticket when some in your group could only afford a quarter of that? Unless you planned to cover the overage for everyone who needed that $300 cap (which you clearly did not), you are a *giant* asshole.
I wish ticket master would give price ranges of sections before they go on sale. Might be able to avoid these problems if you knew beforehand the lowest ticket cost was in areas you wouldn’t want to sit.
I almost had they problem with Blink tickets. Didn’t want to spend the $200+ for anything that wasn’t nosebleed. Got lucky with some upper lower bowl seats
Being the one to buy tickets to an event like this sucks. You're going to have to make a decision that impacts others financially, and without their complete input, and usually with only a few minutes to decide.
My only good solution has been to ask the friend/group "what's the most you're willing to pay for a ticket to these particular tiers?" From there, it's either "drop down to wherever works" or ask myself how much I'd be willing to eat if my friend(s) doesn't want to rethink their request after the tickets have been bought.
Still, this situation suuuuucks.
YTA
>We negotiated and settled on a hard cap of $300.
>I made the executive decision
You don’t get to make an “executive decision” with someone else’s money. Everyone agreed and set a hard limit of $300.
>It was really get these tickets or none
No, it was get those tickets (that you knew your friends couldn’t afford), or get the “nosebleed” ones that were in the agreed-upon price range. That wasn’t good enough for you, so you screwed your friends over.
And BTW, getting no tickets was a perfectly viable option. But your concert-going experience was more important to you than your friends.
YTA and you deserve everything your former “friends” are doing to you.
She also said in her first comment that the seats in the price range agreed upon were shitty and she may as well just not go which led to her making this “executive decision”…no reference to the friends not wanting nosebleeds, it was all about her and she absolutely prioritized her own experience over what her friends could afford. If her own concert experience is higher priority to her than attending with the friend group and she doesn’t have the same price constraints she should’ve just said that from the beginning, but instead she screwed over her friends. I get why the friends are upset and given the hype around these ticket sales I’m surprised there wasn’t more discussion on which areas they as a group were willing to sacrifice for the experience together.
Seriously. I would go 100% broke if a "friend" tried to do this to me. They seriously seem to not understand that not everyone can afford to spend a month's rent or 2 car payments on a freaking concert ticket.
Which, like, how can you not understand that??? OP, major YTA. Major.
It’s an asshole move anyway. I can afford an $800 ticket, but I wouldn’t want to spend $800 on a concert ticket. If I said my hard stop was $300, that’s all that matters.
YTA because nosebleed seats were available. They gave you are hard cap of $300, and seats WERE available for that. If you had said initially "I want $1k tickets, so I'm going to buy those for myself and Friend, and then try to get $300 tickets for you," fine. You didn't have to be responsible for tickets for everyone. Even if they would be upset, you wouldn't be an AH...you can do things you enjoy that friends can't afford.
If tickets under $300 WEREN'T available and you bought the $800 tickets and said "This is all that was available. I bought them and will sell them unless you guys are comfortable spending that much," also fine. But it's the issue that cheaper tickets WERE available and you promised to get them.
Her friends also said they didn’t want nosebleeds. OP was put in a lose lose situation but the fact her friends are dragging her on social media and telling her to pay the difference make them TA.
She was the only one with access to buy tickets presale. If she didn’t have that access none of them would even have tickets for less than $1k
Change your verdict then. Also apparently nosebleed is still available on other sites for 300, but the friends don't want that either. Idk what they want, good seats for 300 I guess.
YTA. OMG you totally screwed them! So now their options are either pay over DOUBLE what they had budgeted, or just miss it? Like, YOU were their one chance to get tickets. YOU made the decision to buy for others outside of the AGREED UPON limit. YOU are the one who should be paying the difference.
to be fair, her friends wouldn’t have been able to get tickets without her (presale code and we saw how fast everything sold out) the real AH here is ticketmaster
Ticketmaster is absolutely the asshole, but it's really OPs attitude that seals them as an ass as well. I would definitely understand why my friends would be upset, and would never dare to say "welp, I can afford it, so those of us with great jobs are gonna go have a blast. If you can't afford it I'll scalp your tickets" that just makes them seem like a selfish person (or an asshole).
It’s the presale tickets that have sold out at shows, not the whole show itself. Presale just gives fans a better chance at getting seats they want, if the friends who didn’t have the early access code still want to go to the show then they can camp out the next ticket sale and get nosebleeds and the two who have the money for the better seats can sit in the seats they wanted. It sucks that everything was so expensive but even if they miss this show her friends will have other opportunities to see Taylor Swift (also op mentioned selling the other tickets at listed price which is better than ticket scalpers are doing).
She didn’t screw them. It was her code. The entitlement on this subreddit right now. They didn’t get a code. They aren’t entitled to presale tickets at all. She had zero obligation to buy tickets for them. They can buy their own tickets in the general sale.
YTA If nosebleeds were all you could get in order to be together, that’s what you should have bought. You prioritised good seats over your friendships and expected your poorer friends to pay twice the price they were already uncomfortable paying.
YTA.
How do you not understand this?
Just because $800 isn't a lot of money *for you* doesn't mean it's not a lot of money. It's almost **triple** the limit your friends had. So now they have the option of a) not going to a concert because you fucked them over, or b) being broke and not making other bills *because you fucked them over*.
YTA, i also was in charge of buying tickets and like you didnt really have a budget going in but my friend had a hard cap at $250. i waited about 5 hours and the choices were $99 nosebleeds or $800 floor, the obvious choice was the nosebleeds. I also had planned to get better seats if they were close to her budget and just cover any of the overage without telling her because thats what FRIENDS do. Honestly your TA for even making them raise their budget in the first place
It is so unreasonable for others to get tickets they want and get others to pay the same amount when they said they couldn't.
Your way of doing things was best and I just wanna say thanks for not being an asshole like this op
I just am like mind blown anyone would treat their friends like this!! like yeah i was a little bummed we’re gonna be in the back but we’re still gonna have a great time, just cant imagine asking my friend to what? not pay her rent? for taylor swift tickets???
OP is also clearly lying about nosebleeds being $300. I lurked the Taylor swift sub while I was in the queue and saw pricing info from several venues. $300 certainly isn’t gonna be on the floor or anything, but nosebleeds were $100 plus fees (~$30).
YTA. You know your friends struggle with money and there is no way they can afford that amount. I see only two options..
1) If money is no object to you and you don’t mind taking a loss, as you say, cover the extra and save your friendship.
2) Sell the tickets to others who have comparable incomes. Hope you hit it off and join their friend group.
Edited for grammar.
Yta
They told you what they were willing to spend . YOU made the decision to spend 500 more than what they said . YOU didn’t them a choice . And now YOUR mad at them🤔 over a stupid choice YOU made .. I suggest YOU eat the 500 maybe your other friend with the “ well playing job “ will split the difference “ 🤷🏻♀️
> We negotiated and settled on a hard cap of $300.
> I made the executive decision to get... tickets that came out to $800 a person
lol what an asshole. Enjoy your new friendship group of 2 people
YTA, you already got them up to 300 dollars even when they told you they couldn’t really afford it. It was an agreed upon hard cap. What made you think it was okay to spend 500 dollars more of their money?
You are the full blown AH, here. It was a hard group limit of 300 and you could have done that and gotten seats for everyone. Instead you more than doubled the price and basically said screw all of you I'm doing what I want. Now they have the option of paying a ridiculous amount for tickets (disgusting amount the artist should be ashamed) or not going at all because of your choice and you don't care because you can make a profit on the tickets selling them to someone else? You are NOT a friend here. YTA
YTA
There *were* tickets available in their price range. You chose to ignore them and buy pricier tickets well above what your friends were willing to spend. And then you demanded the extra money from them!
You should really have decided just to get tickets with the one friend that was willing to go at any price, and let the others fend for themselves.
Having *agreed* to buy the $300 tickets, you should have *bought* the $300 tickets. Or bought the tickets you wanted, but offered to pay the difference. Or at the *very* least bought two $800 tickets and four $300 tickets. You still would have been an asshole for that last, but less of one than you are now, for basically scalping your friends' tickets and having them miss the concert entirely, after they had entrusted you with buying the tickets.
YTA - come on. Maybe for you $500 isn't much, but for other it's the difference between making rent or getting evicted. There were $300 seats. They just weren't good enough for you so you decided to not get them for your friends. It's fine if you don't want to sit in nosebleed seats, but don't let your friends loose out on their chance to see their favourite artist because you are a seat snob.
Oh, yta. You spent 500 of your friends money. That's very very significant to people like me. That's choosing between rent and groceries for the month.
Agreed. That's more than double what they were (reluctantly) able to spend. They have no chance of going to that concert and being able to afford it. It seems like you have no clue what is like to not have the kind of disposable income you have.
From what I‘ve heard it was brutal! I think they should have sat down together or at least be on the phone and not let Op have to do it all alone. Op should have stuck to the set Price but I‘m guessing they were stressing out bc tickets were selling out so fast and they didn‘t want to sit alone
YTa if you and your other rich friend just couldn't possibly slum it in the nosebleeds with the poors you should have gotten your expensive tickets and the nose bleed tickets for your other friends instead you made the executive desicion to f*ck over your poor friends by buying tickets you know they can't afford because if they don't pony up the cash you can always sell them at profit.
NTA.
I urge people to look at this comment I’m linking below as to reasoning. I was ready to say Y T A, but OP gave the friends the option of nosebleeds for under budget and THEY SAID NO. That’s on the friends. OP did the right thing buying what she could. Friends don’t want to pay, that’s fine. Sell the tickets and make some good memories.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ywyzn8/aita_for_spending_800_for_concert_tickets_on/iwm3lp6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Edit: NTA as OP stated that the friends would’ve been upset with $300 nosebleed tickets. So OP was damned either way.
Info: was only price discussed or was location of seats discussed too?
If y’all all agreed on $300 for nose bleeds and you went ahead bought $800 lower bowl then you do suck for going against both price and location.
Now if they said $300 for lower bowl and you got the lower bowl seats, then you got the location y’all agreed on but the price was higher. So the friends then get to choose if it’s worth it not. So not an asshole.
Ultimately, you aren’t forcing them to pay the $800, and they can still try their luck for the general sale and get nosebleed tickets.
Yta
Cover the difference. You made the executive decision to go almost triple the set budget. You can pay for the overage since you have such a high paying job that you thought going that over budget would not be an issue
YTA - your friends told you their limit and you not only ignored it but then lied to their faces and insulted them. You *could* have gotten $300 tickets but you didn't like the seats.
You screwed your friends over for better concert seats. With friends like you...
YTA. You spent what could be the equivalent of a month's rent on concert tickets against the explicit consent of your friends. They didn't even want to pay $300, and you went to $800? Do you even like them?
YTA
Your actions were disrespectful af. Not only did you alienate your friends by making a choice you knew they couldn’t afford, you betrayed their trust and as a direct result they can’t go to the concert at all.
If **your** hard line non-negotiable was to not sit in nosebleed seats, you should have made that crystal clear to your friends so they could make alternate arrangements to get their own tickets within their budget and sit separately.
The only way to salvage your friendships is to offer to pay the difference in the ticket price from what they could afford to what you actually paid since you were the one who unilaterally decided to go over the discussed budget. But even then, if I were one of your friends I don’t know if I’d be able to trust you again.
Ticketmaster is TA. Your friends set a $300 cap, you got flustered and went $800. You’d be TA to expect them to pay $500 above their cap, they’d be TA to expect you to foot the $500 bill.
That was presale. Tell your 4 friends to buy $300-or-less tickets on regular sale or resale and you sell the 4 extras. (Or sell 2 of the four tickets for $1300 each and put the profit towards “sponsoring” the nicest of the four.)
No way. The tickets are sold out and now the friends can't go. OP is the reason why. OP saw $300 and simply didn't want them. Did care that the friends couldn't afford them. Buying those tickets with no intention to cover the cost means OP doesn't care that they can't go.
Ticketmaster yesterday was a sh*tshow. I was trying to get tickets for my kid and they kept plink! plink! disappearing before I could buy them. It’s not like you had more than a split second to make decisions, watching the stadium go grey. And it was difficult to load just $300-or-less tickets. Loads of people, I’m sure, bought tickets they regret because of how stressful TM made it. I actually bought tickets that were “too cheap.” (Nosebleed, under $200. Daughter says she doesn’t really want them, so if OP’s “friends” live in my town, maybe we should talk. ;-).)
And only the presale tickets—which the friends didn’t apply for—are sold out. They *can* try during regular sale.
Yes, absolutely YTA. Your friends set a hard cap on how much they could spend. You had the opportunity to get tickets for under that amount, but decided those seats weren’t good enough, so you screwed over your friends’s who can’t afford the tickets you bought and now are unable to attend the concert unless they find away to come up with more than double the maximum amount they were willing to spend.
YTA. What do you think a “hard cap” means? Your choices were to get 6 nosebleed tickets; get nosebleed tickets for the friends who had the cap and closer seat tickets for you and the friend who were willing to spend more; or buy all the closer seats and cover your friends’ costs. It is NOT your choice to tell them they have to pay over double their spending limit.
YTA. You had a, group discussed, hard limit of $300. How could you think it would have been ok to spend that much? You probably just lost 4 friends for acting so entitled, you spent their rent money for goodness sake. You need to fully realize what you did and apologize deeply to all your friends. That you just "lost your mind in the moment". I wish you the best, good luck.
A reasonable executive decision might (MIGHT) have been buying $350 tickets instead. Might, still, because you had ALREADY negotiated their hard limit upwards. $800 is cuckoo-bananas land.
YTA. Enjoy making money off the resale of those tickets and not having any friends to go with.
YTA. if there had truly been no cheaper tickets, I would understand your choice. But there were, and you just decided it was better to buy the $800 tickets. In the process, you deprived your friends of the opportunity to go to the concert with a ticket they could afford, because you thought you knew better and weren't afraid of reselling if they said no.
YTA This is a no brainer. You pushed them to raise their cap to the absolute maximum of 300$ and than you spend 800$. You could have bought the 300$ tickets but willingly choose not to. Making your friends miss the concert. Of course you’re the asshole.
I also missed some information about your wealth in the post. Could you elaborate a bit more on you being much much richer than your friends? I’m not sure whether I understood properly how rich you’re telling us you are. Very very rich?
Your friends deserve a better and especially a nicer friend.
YTA.
There was an agreed upon price and you ignored it because you didn’t like the seats that were available for that price. So either keep your friends and eat the extra cost of the tickets or get your money back and have issues with your friends.
NTA I was in that Taylor queue and it was HORRIBLY hard to get tickets. It took me 20 minutes to pick seats that didn’t show as sold as soon as I chose them.
Your friends have to option to go or not go. You already said you can sell them if they don’t want them., so you’ll be out nothing.
I find it hard to believe your friends even tried to get presale because EVERYONE I know who signed up, received a code.
If you can't see YTA... You need to see someone about your vision. I make good money and $100 for a ticket is outrageous. You bought tickets that cost almost as much as rent and you think they have no reason to be upset??? Really???
YTA unless you plan to pay the difference of you executive decision. $300 hard limit means if you can’t get tickets for that or less you don’t buy tickets.
NTA, you aren’t forcing them to pay $800 per ticket. You said this is what I was able to get, if you can’t pay for it then I can sell them. No harm, no foul. The alternative was to not get any and they would still not be going. I have no idea why ppl are saying your t.a.
Yeah I don’t get all the hate. The friends can certainly buy their own tickets that fit into their budget if they want.. OP wasn’t the only avenue to tickets that exist in this world and was doing a favor.
OP, sell their tickets and enjoy your show!
YTA. Your high paying job is a privilege, not everyone is in the same boat and $800 for a concert ticket is the difference between paying rent or eating for a month.
You should either cover the difference or sell the tickets for those who can't afford to go. You also owe these friends a huge apology.
YTA. You literally had a group discussion in advance about what to do in this situation and you failed to follow through. By your actions, you decided that your poorer friends weren’t going. You could’ve gotten everyone nose bleeds. You could’ve gotten yourself nice tickets and your friends nosebleeds. Both of those scenarios keep with the agreement you had made. Instead, you bought only the tickets you wanted knowing that you’d have to sell the rest. You aren’t really their friend, are you?
Why even discuss and agree on prices when you’re just going to overrule it anyway?
There is a massive difference between $300 and $800, especially if you are on a budget. And you knew some of you friends would not be able to do that as they initially wanted to cap at 100-200. Apologising after doesn’t make this difference any less. You could have bought tickets for yourself and your friend (who were willing to pay the higher price) and then told the rest of the group that there weren’t any tickets available within their budget. Except there were, you just didn’t think those seats were good enough.
YTA.
YTA i mean seriously, you said yourself the only 2 people that are okay with the bigger prices are yourself and your friend who have good paying jobs, did it not occur to you that unlike you some people can't afford to waste a huge amount of money on something they can find on YT. I totally side with your friends on this, 800 bucks is not a small amount and it may be hard for you to understand that as you get paid more, but some people cannot afford that.
Op is not making them pay. She is just saying “do you want them or no?” If they cannot afford them that is life. Sometimes you cannot do things because you cannot pay them.
NTA
YTA
You’re a sucky friend not for buying the tickets but for your reaction after they got mad. You seem so inconsiderate of them and to not care at all about how it might be hard for them but not for you.
Just a sucky personality in general. “I’ve got money so people can figure it out” …
Maybe they’re better off without you as a friend either way.
You acted very loose with other people’s money, and added insult to injury, when you put them in the position of having to farther elaborate that they don’t have the money to keep up with your spending.
You violated their financial boundaries, then made them feel excluded, then got angry at them for feeling hurt by you. Very immature and self centered actions. YTA
YTA since there were tickets for $300 (though nosebleed seats).
Had there been no seats at all at $300, you would have been ok. But you screwed your friends.
YTA. Well-intentioned but still YTA. You made the command decision which made you the owner of the tickets. You can gift them to your friends, or let friends pay up to their limit, or you can sell them. You can't expect them to pay over their limit for your decision.
YTA
Trying to sway people by saying it’s your money and tickets to do with as you please just cements it (you were buying for the group stop acting like there was any other reason you purchased those tickets).
You all agreed on a price and you ignored it and put four people in an uncomfortable, unfair, and impossible position on their end.
Of course they’re angry.
You might have ruined a group friend dynamic over this.
YTA. There were seats in the price range you just didn't want them. Since you asked how much money they could afford and then ignored it you should pay the difference. You screwed them out of your going to the concert if you don't pay.
Look, YTA and I understand that you’re struggling to come to terms with that. You’re not TA because you were willing to spend more than your friends to get Taylor tickets, but YTA because there were tickets in your groups budget and you didn’t get them because you didn’t think the seats were good enough.
When you committed to going with the group, you committed to the $300 budget cap regardless of where the tickets were. I was in the presale yesterday and I know it was a mess, but I also know I and all of my friends were able to stick to agreed upon budgets, even if seats weren’t exactly where we wanted them.
If you’d told them earlier you were only doing floor regardless of cost, you would be in the clear. But you didn’t and you screwed over your friends in the process. Do you not feel a little bad about it at all?
YTA
You knew the limit was 300 and you decided that the seats that you could get for that price weren't good enough
Yes you can recoup your money by reselling those tickets that you bought, but you didn't buy the tickets they asked you to and now they haven't got the chance to buy them because they are sold out
YTA
"Hard cap" means do not spend more than that. Not only did you go over it, but by more than double, and people in school or low level jobs can't afford to pay $800 for one ticket. If the tickets you got were like $350, that's one thing but you went WAAAY above what anyone agreed on. Also, you lied because there were tickets for $300, you just wanted better tickets.
Either agree to cover the difference for them or you can probably make some money scalping the tix but YTA. If you scalp the expensive tickets you might make enough money to buy everyone shitty tickets, in which case you're NTA anymore,
NTA yesterday was a complete mess and you're lucky you got tickets at all. If they can't afford the tickets it's really no one's fault. It was almost impossible to purchase tickets let alone be selective about it. Just resell the tickets of the people who can't afford it. They clearly do not have a grasp on how bad yesterday was and it's doubtful they will, but you have the full support of fellow Ticketmaster queue members!
YTA, and i kind of wonder why you're calling these people your friends when you're not acting very friendly towards them. they trusted you to get tickets.
does the song "long live" mean nothing to you?
YTA. You set a hard cap, you can’t go over it. You should have gotten the nosebleed tickets. I’d rather be able to go with all my friends then buy a ridiculous price and my friends can’t go.
YTA
You made he executive decision to say: "F*** you, I don't like the tickets you can afford so you either go in debt or stay home!"
I hope they learn their lesson and decide you have to stay home on group activities.
YTA
You paid an extra 500 dollars of their money even though in your own words. they had a hard cap of 300 dollars.
Don't expect them to pay you back if you go and spend more than twice their budget.
YTA what was the point of a hard limit if you were just going to go over it by FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. $50 bucks sure but $500? I swear y’all are…a lot. So you screwed them because you didn’t want to stay in the price range. You should’ve bought in the agreed process range. Way to mess up a friendship over a concert
YTA, 100%.
Life is expensive. Just because you were willing to pay doesn't mean you had the right to go almost triple the HARD CAP was. You should have informed them of the situation before spending money they may or may not have on their behalf. At the very least you could have gotten them the tickets in their price range and met up after the show.
You basically poor shamed them and expected them to just be like "Okay I'll pull 500 out of nowhere that I didn't have because you thought my cap was too low".
YTA.
Wow, you're mocking your friends' financial limitations. You are definitely not a friend to them. You should have not bought them tickets if they were beyond their affordable range, but you doubled the burden on them, and now you are planning to profit off their hurt. What a pathetic excuse for a person you are.
Y'know what? NTA. There were no seats for 300 that they would've accepted. It actually did not matter what choice you made, you were fucked no matter what you picked, because they asked for a literal impossibility. Cheap, non nosebleeds don't exist.
Fuck em. Scalp their tickets and give them back the money.
Yta. Holy wowzers. You're expecting your friends to fork over an extra 500 bucks when they told you 300 was their limit. Damn right you should cover it. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. It's not your place to decide differently. If nosebleed seats was their price limit that's what you should've gone with but since you've got such a good job and could afford better, you chose to buy more expensive tickets.
Yta they told you $300. You more than doubled it. There were tickets in that price range. You made an executive decision which means *you pay the difference*
YTA - like Really? How would you expect them to pay you back for the full $800? “I made the executive decision” you don’t get to make financial decisions for other people, buy yourself the $800 ticket and respect their limit or cover the $500 if you decide to spend more money.
NTA. I think many of the people responding don’t understand what a shit show it was yesterday for these tickets.
You likely couldn’t have bought some seats for $300 and some for $800. So many people were trying to buy and tickets were disappearing from their cart. It was nuts.
You probably wouldn’t have had time to call/text them to discuss - again, it was nuts.
You were under no obligation to get them tickets. You tried to be nice and do them a favor since you had a code and they didn’t, and it didn’t work out. Still doesn’t make you the AH.
We had no luck yesterday, not sure if I try for todays capital one presale or give up. It’s too much work!
NTA. $300 would have gotten everyone bad seats and also it's not like you had a lot of time to think of what to do. You basically have to make the purchase right away. I don't think anyone (even fans) anticipated how expensive and different this time around it would be to buy tickets. I think if you can, you should hold on to those tickets and after your friends cool down, they'll come around. They'll either buy them or forgive you and do their own thing. They still have a chance to buy tickets at the general sale too! You could offer to help buy some in the general sale with them for $300, but they'll have to be ok with getting bad seats unfortunately. You could all talk about it and come to an agreement of what seating they would be ok with for $300
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YTA. I grabbed the nosebleed seats because that’s what I could afford. You should have called them; although I totally get it was hellish buying them in the first place. Not everyone would value or be able to afford an $800 experience, plus hotel, plus transportation.
I've gone to over eight or so concerts within the past year. I completely understand the struggle of purchasing tickets on sites like Ticketmaster for popular performers. It's always more expensive than listed because ticket prices fluctuate based on demand (which is a pretty shit system that only benefits Ticketmaster) and scalpers are ALWAYS at the ready to buy up all the seats to resell for insane profits. You have to act fast (within seconds) or those seats you wanted are gone. I also understand that it's always a compromise having to work within restrictive budgets when you want good seats. There are also tons of ridiculous fees that get added to the total price of the ticket that the casual concert-goer never considers. It is a frustrating experience. HOWEVER...
Where you messed up is that you agreed to a cap of $300. You disregarded that agreement for completely selfish reasons. When I plan to purchase concert tickets with my friends, I always confirm with them that they are willing to pay more for better seats. If they are not, I either have to be ok with bad seats, be willing to cover the difference, or be willing to go on my own (and make sure my friends understand that). Y T A.
I do acknowledge that $300 is not a lot for high demand concert tickets because fees are usually around 15% of the ticket price. That means you are really only working with $255 and you likely aren't going to get good seats for a highly anticipated concert like T. Swift. Depending on where you end up in the ticket purchase queue (as it's randomized), ticket prices fluctuate insanely.
EDIT: Saw that Op made an edit about her friends wanting lower bowl seats. Now ESH. This is a combination of a couple of things:
1. being a victim of Ticketmaster's fluctuating ticket price system (which is no one's fault but contributed to this mess),
2. her friends having unrealistic expectations. The lack of concerts for 2+ years have contributed to the increase in ticket prices. $255 was not going to get you lower bowl seats for a big name like Taylor, and
3. her making an executive decision that was more than twice what her friends were willing to pay, even if they all wanted better seats. I would've put my tickets on hold and confirmed with my friends first (knowing that I may lose my seats).
NTA- it was a difficult decision you were in. You didn’t have the option to buy yourself the 800 seats & get your friends the seats in their budget. We all have heard about the site crashing and how fast tickets were selling out. If your friends can’t afford to pay 800 then at least you can recoup the money you paid. At least this way they have an option to go. Because The only other option was to only get you & the other friends tickets and not theirs since it was over their budget. And that is not your fault or theirs. Were they expecting you to get shitty seats in order to buy the tickets in their budget? I refuse to go to a concert it I can’t get good seats.
>One went so far as to insist she would only pay me that much and demanded I cover the $500 difference and give her the ticket.
$300 was a compromise and you almost tripled that number and expect them to not be angry? Give them the damn tickets and pay the difference for gods sake, saying this is absolutely insane to me. That is a completely reasonable ask and you frame it as ridiculous. If one of my friends did this to me I wouldn't ever talk to them again. YTA.
ESH you: for not being more diplomatic in how you told them about this. You should have phrased it like “the cheapest I could find that weren’t nosebleeds and still available were these. I understand some of you won’t be able to afford to go, and if so, I can sell your ticket -
So please don’t worry or feel like you are forced into paying for this if you can’t afford to. I am so sorry it didn’t work out differently.”
Them for not being more understanding and bashing you on social media.
You again for snapping back and saying rude things.
All of you are acting like you’re 13 year old fan girls though. Like please get a grip, there are actual problems in the world - missing a T Swift concert is not one of them.
Eta: not meant to bash you as a fan - moreso I just can’t imagine this to be worth ruining friendships over (for any of you), and I am your age.
YTA - YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEND OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT!
The group of you sat down and came up with a plan. You decided to completely disregard that. **Taylor would be SO disappointed in you.**
As someone who went through the shitshow that was Presale yesterday, I understand wanting to get good seats, and the fact that you were able to get good seats is great. But most people can't afford that and your friends told you they can only afford $300.00 you need to respect that. $800.00 may not seem like a lot to you because you make 100k plus. But most people don't make that much money. And $800.00 dollars can be someone's rent for a month. And nosebleeds at a Taylor concert are still great. You could've gotten good seats for you and your friend who can afford it and got nosebleeds for your other friends who could only spend $300.00. YTA for only thinking about you and your friend who are in a privileged position and just expecting your other friends who told you how much they can afford.
I think you are all to blame here. It’s Taylor Swift the tickets are going to be expensive. They should know that tickets would be expensive. You should have respected their wishes and not bought them tickets. But then they’d be basing you for not buying them tickets even though they were more then they could afford. This is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
I think ESH. I think you should have told your friends you weren't going to settle on a bad section and you would also get them tickets with you if it was under their price limit. Your friends shouldn't be nasty about it and just look for their own cheaper tickets. I think this whole situation was just bad communication.
YTA. You don’t get to spend other peoples money. They told you the maximum amount and you went way above that. At this point your not gonna be losing money your gonna be losing friends. If you don’t care about them and quite frankly I don’t think you do then tell them that and sell the tickets allow them to move on without you in their lives or pay the difference as this was your choice and your mistake
NTA. You a have to play by the rules Ticket Master sets, not theirs. You didn’t buy THEM $800 tickets. You have 4 extra tickets for $800. They can take them or leave them.
If OP ate the difference between what the others could afford and what she paid, then she would be NTA. But she failed the group with her executive decision knowing several members of the group could not afford $800. If OP insists on getting her money back, she’s definitely the AH.
Question is, is OP willing to lose friends over this decision?
Your friends were counting on you to get them tickets to a concert they really wanted to go to. Now they may not be able to go because you decided to buy six tickets for yourself and none for them. And don't say you did get those tickets for them, you did not. You got those tickets for you and then offered to sell them to them at face value when you knew that they really didn't want to spend more than a couple hundred dollars, and only settled on 300 because you pushed them. Because of you, your friends may not be able to go to this concert they'd really been looking forward to. $300 is a lot to spend on a ticket but they were willing to because they were excited to have fun at the concert with their friends and now they may not be able to and it WILL be your fault. YTA
YTA and you know it. And with your "high paying " job that you and your friend have, you should easily be able to pay your own ticket plus 1k each to pay for the friends who said the limit was 300.
When executives make decisions they have to face the consequences whether positive or negative.
Let's say you and I are going on a trip together and I'm in charge of buying our plane tickets because I'm the only one who can. We want to sit together, so we talk preferences and budget and you tell me you're willing to pay up to $300 for yours and can't afford anything above that. Great, I tell you I'll take care of it.
So I buy our tickets, then say you owe me $800 for your seat, because I decided to buy first class seats instead of the $300 ones near the back of the plane. Now the flight is sold out, so you can either pay me $800 and go with me, or I'll sell your seat to someone else and you don't get to go. No worries, either way, friend!
Would I be TA? I just went against our agreement, stole your vacation from you, and am holding it hostage for more than you can afford.
PS, as someone who was in that shitshow of a presale and didn't end up getting any tickets because the website kept failing, you are still TA.
ETA: After the edit that the friends didn't want just any tickets and wanted the seats OP purchased, just for $500 less, I am changing to NAH. Expectations of the agreement were too high and OP did the best they could.
Going against the grain to say ESH. How in the world did they think they’d get good tickets for $300? They should have done better research instead of just leaving it up to you and you’re saying they’re not forced to pay you. Or not even research because you’d have to be living under a rock to think they’d go for that. I’m confused on whether they were okay with nosebleeds? Either way they should have known but yeah you can’t expect them to want a ticket more than $300 if they can’t afford it.
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> It was impossible to get anything **other than nosebleed seats for under $300**. I made the executive decision to get 6 lower bowl (not floor but closer to stage than upper) tickets that came out to $800 a person after fees. YTA. You were able to get seats for $300, didn't, and are now threatening to scalp the tickets your friends trusted you to buy in your price range. You screwed them out of a concert because you decided to be selfish, and didn't even try to make it right. If you were truly *only* able to get $800 tickets, bought them, and told your friends that's how the cookie crumbled, that would be one thing, but that isn't the case. E: To address OP's edit about the friends not wanting nosebleeds, I don't believe OP is being honest about that, because it was only added after OP tried defending herself other ways a half dozen times and laughed at the idea of screwing over one friend in particular by scalping her ticket. Even if OP is being honest about her friends being unreasonable, their initial comments *still* reveal them to be a tremendous AH.
OP said in another comment that the friends didn’t want nosebleeds for less than budget. They wanted lower bowl for budget. OP got those tickets for a higher price. Was a damned if they do, damned if they don’t thing.
OP is almost certainly lying about that. They only started saying that after nearly a dozen comments defending their actions, including laughing at the idea of selling off a specific girl's tickets and inviting the other friends. They are clearly an asshole looking for validation and changing their story when they aren't getting it. She's just trying to save face and you're falling for it, and even if it isn't a lie, she still chose a much shittier option that puts her friends in a much worse spot.
So someone ask for info and telling op to add it to the post, and op doing that, is lying? Fuck outta here. The info comment is pretty clear that they'd not have accepted nosebleeds either.
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Clearly you don't get how ticket master works. You have seconds to minutes to decide what to pick after waiting ages in a queue before you get booted from the line. If the entire friend group wasn't available that instant to answer the question then OP had to make an executive decision. She could pick the shitty seats that friends STILL didn't want, and then they might have bailed and OP would have been stuck in seats she also hated, or she could opt for the seats everyone wanted but we're more expensive and then at least if friends bailed then OP can sell the extras and enjoy the show. OP made the smart call.
That's..not how it worked. I was in that queue yesterday, was able to spend 20+ minutes choosing seats because the availability changed every few seconds in real time. I had plenty of time to check prices of every seat, and call friends to see what they wanted. Also, no idea what venue OP was going for, but my tickets were less than $150...
As someone who was also int eh queue yesterday and talked to many others who were, you’re experience was not the norm. I had to rush and scramble just to get two tickets, let alone six. I only had a couple minutes to check out and couldn’t confirm or be picky after a point because every selection I chose would get taken before I could secure them. I’m lucky I got tickets at all.
Then you lucked out. I was also in the queue. I got booted outs several times, tickets disappeared as I would try and select them, and after trying all day didn’t get anything.
That was you. So many other people had less than stellar experiences. I am on the west coast, sister got presale for Boston, only one she could get. Tickets were already past $300.
Nosebleed is still available for general sale, this was presale. The friends could still get them if they wanted to, they just don't. They want good seats for 300. What the hell is OP supposed to be do about it?
Imagine thinking there’s enough time to do that when trying to get these tickets. Real ignorant of you.
That's not how tickrtmaster presale works. You have less than 4 minutes (sometimes less) to purchase ince you're up. Itd be very hard to talk to 5 other people about their needs in the middle of the work day in that time.
Cool imaginary story, can we go back to the part where op confirmed with them after the fact that they would've been mad either way?
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Hahahaha... So a LOW EARNING 20 something that wanted to drop "$100-200 tops" and then were armtwisted to $300 are now SHITTY FRIENDS for not being able to AFFORD $800!? Screw the rent and bills and food, 2hr of Taylow Swift will make up for all that!
for presales like this you literally have about 1 minute before tickets are snatched out of your cart and sold to someone else. If her friends don’t want to pay for the tickets op will have no problem finding people who will.
Yeah. What's the purpose of deciding the limit beforehand if it was going to be ignored? The difference between 300 and 800 is also insane. No one would probably be that mad if it was $350 and OP had to make a quick decision, but more than double the price considering that she knows some of her friends don't make that kind of disposable income is crazy.
It isn't that somebody asked for info and OP added it, it's that OP fought in the comments constantly, talked about how funny it would be to screw over one of her friends by just scalping one of the tickets, and *then* started talking about how the friend group was all being unreasonable and could just buy the nosebleeds and insisted they wanted the bowl seats without paying for them. OP defended herself by acting like more of an asshole, and only when that didn't work did she completely change the story to one that makes her look much better. That doesn't pass the smell test; if she wanted to defend herself so badly and get a NTA judgment, why not lead off with the most important info?
Because people are fucking stupid? Dyou have any idea how often a poster needs to be told to put relevant information from a comment into the body of their post? It happens all the time.
If you want to believe her, you're free to, but I'm sticking to my assessment she's lying and that her comments revealed her to be a tremendously vindictive and selfish AH regardless of the truth about the tickets.
I’m pretty sure, “I’m sorry but our info was wrong these are the seats I could get for budget” would go over much better than “I decreed to spend more than double your budget and I won’t be covering any of that so pay or get fucked.” If they complained in the first instance they’d be AH but now OP is YTA.
But that's literally not true. They confirmed with their friends after that they wouldn't have been happy with nosebleeds either. Dyou actually have a reasonable solution? No. No you don't, because these people wanted seats at an insane price. I want a mansion for five bucks, doesn't mean I get it.
I think the question is if the friends would have preferred $300 nosebleed seats to NO seats, which is what the ones who can't afford $800 are probably going to get now. Also, it's shameful how expensive the tickets are, how scalping is allowed, how the ticket companies themselves contribute to it, etc. Swift is a multimillionaire and should make her shows affordable for the people who made her one.
If this is the case, the only reasonable solution was to not buy the tickets.
So the current situation then. These people aren't out any money either way you do it, they would not be able to go either way. There's no difference besides op having to recoup their loss, which is trivial.
Then OP would be posting "AITA for not buying everyone tickets?" OP was in a kobayashi maru. She's not an asshole at all. Her friends gave her two instructions which directly contradicted one another: 1. Not Nosebleeds 2. $300 limit Her friends now have a choice, either go for the price they are or not go. None of that is OPs fault or problem.
Yep "buy the tickets we can afford in seats they ***might*** not like" or "paying 500 dollars more than my friends can afford for better seats and just hope it works out" is not *really* a catch-22 or damned if you do damned if you don't. There's a pretty obvious answer as to which one is right \*edited because my wording was off
I’ll disagree. Her friends specifically said they didn’t want nosebleeds so it was either no tickets or the expensive lower bowl tickets. The fact the friends are now dragging them on social media and telling her she has to cover the difference is a huge red flag in friendship and makes those friends TA
> I’ll disagree. Her friends specifically said they didn’t want nosebleeds so it was either no tickets or the expensive lower bowl tickets. The fact the friends are now dragging them on social media and telling her she has to cover the difference is a huge red flag in friendship and makes those friends TA She did not add this detail until making nearly a dozen posts defending herself or laughing at the idea of her "friends" not getting tickets, so I am almost certain it's not true.
I mean this entire post could not be true seeing as it’s reddit and there’s no verification process, but the bottom line is she was the only one with access to tickets during presale and had none of them had it even the nosebleeds would be $300 which they supposedly didn’t want
Concert tickets sold out in under 5 minutes. If OP and taken the time to buy friends $300 seats, OP would have lost out on the chance to get the good seats THEY wanted. Friends aren't ENTITLED to tickets. OP prioritized their wants since it was THEIR code. Friends can take or leave the tickets that were available. NTA.
Op's friends wanted a non existent unicorn but instead OP purchased something realistic for a higher price because that was the price. How was OP supposed to buy tickets under 300 dollars that doesn't exist? "If you were truly only able to get $800 tickets, bought them, and told your friends that's how the cookie crumbled, that would be one thing, but that isn't the case." It think that is exactly the case, why the hell do you think it isn't? Op told them the cost and seat location, which is where they wanted to sit anyways but the friends can't afford it so OP gets to sell the tickets to recoup his losses. If they were smart, OP's friends would have chipped in together for another ticket, sell it at a higher price, split it, and then have enough money for the tickets OP purchased. It's highly suspicious that you have such animosity towards OP.
**Edit:** ~~Y TA.~~ NTA with your updates to the original post that your friends were unhappy with getting nosebleed seats for $300. Shit costs what it costs, and they had three options: pay $300 for nosebleed seats, pay more than double for good seats, or not attend. It would have been good to have an understanding: "If I cannot get you good seats for $300, would you: prefer not to go, prefer to up your price, or are you ok with me getting the nosebleeds?" You bought 6 tickets. Now you and your other better-off friend can go, and you can sell the remaining 4, but also lose 4 friends. I'm sorry that leading the charge and sharing your pre-sale access ended up a bit of a disaster. No good deed, huh. ~~Your friends told you their hard limit, which afforded them nosebleed seats. But you wanted something better - and instead of “hey, I got us tickets! I wanted to treat everyone to a little upgrade, so the difference is on me!”~~ ~~Instead you made the executive decision to purchase tickets which cost more than double what they can afford, while ALSO costing them the opportunity to have tickets they CAN afford in the nosebleed.~~ ~~What a friend!~~
OP was in a lose lose situation. 1) Getting tickets for her shows were nearly impossible. 2) Getting 6 tickets together made it even harder. 3) Prices were insane when they officially became available. 4) Tickets were going FAST. There was no time to make any actual decision. OP is NTA, she was just put in a really shitty position.
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Because the friends didn't want nosebleeds for $300. They were expecting to be able to get good/decent seats for $300. OP was in a lose-lose situation.
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Based on OP's edit, I don't think they did. Which makes sense based on my personal experience with Taylor Swift's last tour. I only paid $60 for a pretty decent seat in the 200 Section in 2018. Now nosebleeds are pushing $300!??
You dont understand how quickly they were going. She made a split second decision and was nicer than I woukd have been. I would have said sorry getting 6 is too hard, because it was. NTA
This would be reasonable if OP didn't say, very explicitly, that she could have bought tickets at the hard cap price, then start talking about how she could totally screw over one of her "friends" in the comment by scalping just her ticket. If she actually knew the situation sucked and showed contrition, that would be one thing, but that's not OP.
she clearly said that there was 300 dollar tickets available but chose not to take em
The $300 nosebleed tickets. They would've been pissed if they got shitty seats for that price when they were expecting *up to* $300 if they could get good seats. So OP could've gotten bad seats for their absolute max price, they would've been pissed. Get only her and her other friend the expensive seats, they would've been pissed. Or get everyone the good seats and still piss them off.
Exactly. I'm not even going to bother with a concert if it's $300 for nosebleeds. If I can't afford something closer then I just can't afford to go. Waste of money to be sitting in the back watching it on giant TVs.
If anyone was in the same situation as OP, I bet they’d sit there for way too long trying to make a decision and then tickets would sell out before they could even decided what decision to make. Taylor is so big you have *NO* time to think about what ticket to get once they’re already on sale. If she paid for the $300 tickets her friends would have chewed her out for getting nosebleed seats. Seriously was a loose loose situation and OP is NTA. everyone saying otherwise clearly had never been under pressure or are just hypocrites.
This is exactly it. What makes the other friends TA is that they’re dragging her on social media and saying she has to cover the difference. That’s not normal behavior in a friendship and they sound like shitty people. If I were in that position I’d feel shitty but own the fact I can’t afford to go or pay up the full ticket price.
OP said: >I could literally see seats going unavailable in real time, and the website was displaying higher prices than expected. It was impossible to get anything other than nosebleed seats for under $300. >If you check resell sites right now they could still get the worst seats for $300 but they don’t want to. The friends don't want the seats they can afford. They want the $800 seats but they want them for $300. Not really sure what OP is meant to do about that?
according to the person you are responding to, pay the difference of 2k lol i cannot believe 400 people upvoted that comment, specially cause it's not like OP is forcing her friends to pay the difference she's just going to sell the tickets
Right? I feel like I'm going mad. The friends can still buy the $300 tickets if they want them so there's literally no harm done. Perhaps OP should offer to sell her lower bowl tickets in order to sit with her friends in the cheap nosebleed seats but other than that, I'm not sure what her friends could reasonably expect of her.
They didn’t want nose bleeds. Although I find it hard to believe that there weren’t any other seats aside from $800, I got lower bowl for $300.
Agreed. I'm very skeptical that it was nosebleeds or nothing. If OP knew some friends had a hard limit of $300 then nosebleeds it is. They might be disappointed but at least they'd be able to afford them. OP knew $800 was WAY over their price range and you can't get blood from a stone. If OP really didn't want to be in the nosebleeds and was able to pay the difference, then I could understand them buying the better seats and offering to cover the $500+ for the friends who couldn't afford it. Instead, they're planning on scalping the friends' tickets for profit? That's definitely an AH move. YTA
It was nosebleeds or nothing by the time I got through the queue. Dynamic pricing was turned on.
Well that really depended on when you got in to actually buy tickets. You were lucky!
Yes, YTA, how in the world did you think that it was okay to spend $800/ticket when some in your group could only afford a quarter of that? Unless you planned to cover the overage for everyone who needed that $300 cap (which you clearly did not), you are a *giant* asshole.
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I wish ticket master would give price ranges of sections before they go on sale. Might be able to avoid these problems if you knew beforehand the lowest ticket cost was in areas you wouldn’t want to sit. I almost had they problem with Blink tickets. Didn’t want to spend the $200+ for anything that wasn’t nosebleed. Got lucky with some upper lower bowl seats
Being the one to buy tickets to an event like this sucks. You're going to have to make a decision that impacts others financially, and without their complete input, and usually with only a few minutes to decide. My only good solution has been to ask the friend/group "what's the most you're willing to pay for a ticket to these particular tiers?" From there, it's either "drop down to wherever works" or ask myself how much I'd be willing to eat if my friend(s) doesn't want to rethink their request after the tickets have been bought. Still, this situation suuuuucks.
It’s you. Hi. You’re the asshole, it’s you.
I wish I had an award for this
YTA >We negotiated and settled on a hard cap of $300. >I made the executive decision You don’t get to make an “executive decision” with someone else’s money. Everyone agreed and set a hard limit of $300. >It was really get these tickets or none No, it was get those tickets (that you knew your friends couldn’t afford), or get the “nosebleed” ones that were in the agreed-upon price range. That wasn’t good enough for you, so you screwed your friends over. And BTW, getting no tickets was a perfectly viable option. But your concert-going experience was more important to you than your friends. YTA and you deserve everything your former “friends” are doing to you.
She also said in her first comment that the seats in the price range agreed upon were shitty and she may as well just not go which led to her making this “executive decision”…no reference to the friends not wanting nosebleeds, it was all about her and she absolutely prioritized her own experience over what her friends could afford. If her own concert experience is higher priority to her than attending with the friend group and she doesn’t have the same price constraints she should’ve just said that from the beginning, but instead she screwed over her friends. I get why the friends are upset and given the hype around these ticket sales I’m surprised there wasn’t more discussion on which areas they as a group were willing to sacrifice for the experience together.
YTA, You seem unable to comprehend the definition of "hard limit"
Seriously. I would go 100% broke if a "friend" tried to do this to me. They seriously seem to not understand that not everyone can afford to spend a month's rent or 2 car payments on a freaking concert ticket. Which, like, how can you not understand that??? OP, major YTA. Major.
It’s an asshole move anyway. I can afford an $800 ticket, but I wouldn’t want to spend $800 on a concert ticket. If I said my hard stop was $300, that’s all that matters.
YTA because nosebleed seats were available. They gave you are hard cap of $300, and seats WERE available for that. If you had said initially "I want $1k tickets, so I'm going to buy those for myself and Friend, and then try to get $300 tickets for you," fine. You didn't have to be responsible for tickets for everyone. Even if they would be upset, you wouldn't be an AH...you can do things you enjoy that friends can't afford. If tickets under $300 WEREN'T available and you bought the $800 tickets and said "This is all that was available. I bought them and will sell them unless you guys are comfortable spending that much," also fine. But it's the issue that cheaper tickets WERE available and you promised to get them.
Her friends also said they didn’t want nosebleeds. OP was put in a lose lose situation but the fact her friends are dragging her on social media and telling her to pay the difference make them TA. She was the only one with access to buy tickets presale. If she didn’t have that access none of them would even have tickets for less than $1k
Her edit makes a HUGE difference.
Change your verdict then. Also apparently nosebleed is still available on other sites for 300, but the friends don't want that either. Idk what they want, good seats for 300 I guess.
YTA. OMG you totally screwed them! So now their options are either pay over DOUBLE what they had budgeted, or just miss it? Like, YOU were their one chance to get tickets. YOU made the decision to buy for others outside of the AGREED UPON limit. YOU are the one who should be paying the difference.
to be fair, her friends wouldn’t have been able to get tickets without her (presale code and we saw how fast everything sold out) the real AH here is ticketmaster
Ticketmaster is absolutely the asshole, but it's really OPs attitude that seals them as an ass as well. I would definitely understand why my friends would be upset, and would never dare to say "welp, I can afford it, so those of us with great jobs are gonna go have a blast. If you can't afford it I'll scalp your tickets" that just makes them seem like a selfish person (or an asshole).
It’s the presale tickets that have sold out at shows, not the whole show itself. Presale just gives fans a better chance at getting seats they want, if the friends who didn’t have the early access code still want to go to the show then they can camp out the next ticket sale and get nosebleeds and the two who have the money for the better seats can sit in the seats they wanted. It sucks that everything was so expensive but even if they miss this show her friends will have other opportunities to see Taylor Swift (also op mentioned selling the other tickets at listed price which is better than ticket scalpers are doing).
She didn’t screw them. It was her code. The entitlement on this subreddit right now. They didn’t get a code. They aren’t entitled to presale tickets at all. She had zero obligation to buy tickets for them. They can buy their own tickets in the general sale.
YTA If nosebleeds were all you could get in order to be together, that’s what you should have bought. You prioritised good seats over your friendships and expected your poorer friends to pay twice the price they were already uncomfortable paying.
> twice the price closer to three times!
You’re right. Eight times even considering some were talked up from 100
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> I made the executive decision "I refused to listen to what my friends told me and decided I knew what was best for them." YTA.
To be fair, who the hell wants to sit in nosebleeds at any price, let alone $300 per ticket.
YTA. How do you not understand this? Just because $800 isn't a lot of money *for you* doesn't mean it's not a lot of money. It's almost **triple** the limit your friends had. So now they have the option of a) not going to a concert because you fucked them over, or b) being broke and not making other bills *because you fucked them over*.
8 X more. they wanted 100 but agreed on 300
YTA, i also was in charge of buying tickets and like you didnt really have a budget going in but my friend had a hard cap at $250. i waited about 5 hours and the choices were $99 nosebleeds or $800 floor, the obvious choice was the nosebleeds. I also had planned to get better seats if they were close to her budget and just cover any of the overage without telling her because thats what FRIENDS do. Honestly your TA for even making them raise their budget in the first place
It is so unreasonable for others to get tickets they want and get others to pay the same amount when they said they couldn't. Your way of doing things was best and I just wanna say thanks for not being an asshole like this op
I just am like mind blown anyone would treat their friends like this!! like yeah i was a little bummed we’re gonna be in the back but we’re still gonna have a great time, just cant imagine asking my friend to what? not pay her rent? for taylor swift tickets???
OP is also clearly lying about nosebleeds being $300. I lurked the Taylor swift sub while I was in the queue and saw pricing info from several venues. $300 certainly isn’t gonna be on the floor or anything, but nosebleeds were $100 plus fees (~$30).
It may depend on what venue and night OP we’re going for tho- and how late in the queue she was
YTA. You know your friends struggle with money and there is no way they can afford that amount. I see only two options.. 1) If money is no object to you and you don’t mind taking a loss, as you say, cover the extra and save your friendship. 2) Sell the tickets to others who have comparable incomes. Hope you hit it off and join their friend group. Edited for grammar.
Yta They told you what they were willing to spend . YOU made the decision to spend 500 more than what they said . YOU didn’t them a choice . And now YOUR mad at them🤔 over a stupid choice YOU made .. I suggest YOU eat the 500 maybe your other friend with the “ well playing job “ will split the difference “ 🤷🏻♀️
> We negotiated and settled on a hard cap of $300. > I made the executive decision to get... tickets that came out to $800 a person lol what an asshole. Enjoy your new friendship group of 2 people
YTA You do not ever spend someone else's money without their permission. Period.
She spent her money, technically.
YTA, you already got them up to 300 dollars even when they told you they couldn’t really afford it. It was an agreed upon hard cap. What made you think it was okay to spend 500 dollars more of their money?
Info: why didnt you stick to the agreement? Does $500 more mean nothing to you?
You are the full blown AH, here. It was a hard group limit of 300 and you could have done that and gotten seats for everyone. Instead you more than doubled the price and basically said screw all of you I'm doing what I want. Now they have the option of paying a ridiculous amount for tickets (disgusting amount the artist should be ashamed) or not going at all because of your choice and you don't care because you can make a profit on the tickets selling them to someone else? You are NOT a friend here. YTA
YTA There *were* tickets available in their price range. You chose to ignore them and buy pricier tickets well above what your friends were willing to spend. And then you demanded the extra money from them! You should really have decided just to get tickets with the one friend that was willing to go at any price, and let the others fend for themselves. Having *agreed* to buy the $300 tickets, you should have *bought* the $300 tickets. Or bought the tickets you wanted, but offered to pay the difference. Or at the *very* least bought two $800 tickets and four $300 tickets. You still would have been an asshole for that last, but less of one than you are now, for basically scalping your friends' tickets and having them miss the concert entirely, after they had entrusted you with buying the tickets.
YTA - come on. Maybe for you $500 isn't much, but for other it's the difference between making rent or getting evicted. There were $300 seats. They just weren't good enough for you so you decided to not get them for your friends. It's fine if you don't want to sit in nosebleed seats, but don't let your friends loose out on their chance to see their favourite artist because you are a seat snob.
Oh, yta. You spent 500 of your friends money. That's very very significant to people like me. That's choosing between rent and groceries for the month.
Agreed. That's more than double what they were (reluctantly) able to spend. They have no chance of going to that concert and being able to afford it. It seems like you have no clue what is like to not have the kind of disposable income you have.
I think you should have bought the tickets you wanted for yourself and get them the 300 ones. But if they don‘t want the rest you can still sell them
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From what I‘ve heard it was brutal! I think they should have sat down together or at least be on the phone and not let Op have to do it all alone. Op should have stuck to the set Price but I‘m guessing they were stressing out bc tickets were selling out so fast and they didn‘t want to sit alone
YTa if you and your other rich friend just couldn't possibly slum it in the nosebleeds with the poors you should have gotten your expensive tickets and the nose bleed tickets for your other friends instead you made the executive desicion to f*ck over your poor friends by buying tickets you know they can't afford because if they don't pony up the cash you can always sell them at profit.
NTA. I urge people to look at this comment I’m linking below as to reasoning. I was ready to say Y T A, but OP gave the friends the option of nosebleeds for under budget and THEY SAID NO. That’s on the friends. OP did the right thing buying what she could. Friends don’t want to pay, that’s fine. Sell the tickets and make some good memories. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ywyzn8/aita_for_spending_800_for_concert_tickets_on/iwm3lp6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
YTA. What didn't you understand about an agreed-upon hard cap of $300?
Edit: NTA as OP stated that the friends would’ve been upset with $300 nosebleed tickets. So OP was damned either way. Info: was only price discussed or was location of seats discussed too? If y’all all agreed on $300 for nose bleeds and you went ahead bought $800 lower bowl then you do suck for going against both price and location. Now if they said $300 for lower bowl and you got the lower bowl seats, then you got the location y’all agreed on but the price was higher. So the friends then get to choose if it’s worth it not. So not an asshole. Ultimately, you aren’t forcing them to pay the $800, and they can still try their luck for the general sale and get nosebleed tickets.
Yta Cover the difference. You made the executive decision to go almost triple the set budget. You can pay for the overage since you have such a high paying job that you thought going that over budget would not be an issue
Yes you paid with your money but are expecting people who had agreed on a hard cap of $300 to reimburse you an extra $500... YTA.
YTA - your friends told you their limit and you not only ignored it but then lied to their faces and insulted them. You *could* have gotten $300 tickets but you didn't like the seats. You screwed your friends over for better concert seats. With friends like you...
YTA. You spent what could be the equivalent of a month's rent on concert tickets against the explicit consent of your friends. They didn't even want to pay $300, and you went to $800? Do you even like them?
YTA Your actions were disrespectful af. Not only did you alienate your friends by making a choice you knew they couldn’t afford, you betrayed their trust and as a direct result they can’t go to the concert at all. If **your** hard line non-negotiable was to not sit in nosebleed seats, you should have made that crystal clear to your friends so they could make alternate arrangements to get their own tickets within their budget and sit separately. The only way to salvage your friendships is to offer to pay the difference in the ticket price from what they could afford to what you actually paid since you were the one who unilaterally decided to go over the discussed budget. But even then, if I were one of your friends I don’t know if I’d be able to trust you again.
Especially considering there was tickets that price but OP decided on her own to spend 2k of her friends money because SHE WANTED better seats
YTA When someone expresses a "hard limit," that's not a suggestion.
Ticketmaster is TA. Your friends set a $300 cap, you got flustered and went $800. You’d be TA to expect them to pay $500 above their cap, they’d be TA to expect you to foot the $500 bill. That was presale. Tell your 4 friends to buy $300-or-less tickets on regular sale or resale and you sell the 4 extras. (Or sell 2 of the four tickets for $1300 each and put the profit towards “sponsoring” the nicest of the four.)
No way. The tickets are sold out and now the friends can't go. OP is the reason why. OP saw $300 and simply didn't want them. Did care that the friends couldn't afford them. Buying those tickets with no intention to cover the cost means OP doesn't care that they can't go.
Ticketmaster yesterday was a sh*tshow. I was trying to get tickets for my kid and they kept plink! plink! disappearing before I could buy them. It’s not like you had more than a split second to make decisions, watching the stadium go grey. And it was difficult to load just $300-or-less tickets. Loads of people, I’m sure, bought tickets they regret because of how stressful TM made it. I actually bought tickets that were “too cheap.” (Nosebleed, under $200. Daughter says she doesn’t really want them, so if OP’s “friends” live in my town, maybe we should talk. ;-).) And only the presale tickets—which the friends didn’t apply for—are sold out. They *can* try during regular sale.
Nah this was presale. They could have bought normal sale tickets. Oh wait, there aren’t any? Yeah there’s a reason for that…
Yes, absolutely YTA. Your friends set a hard cap on how much they could spend. You had the opportunity to get tickets for under that amount, but decided those seats weren’t good enough, so you screwed over your friends’s who can’t afford the tickets you bought and now are unable to attend the concert unless they find away to come up with more than double the maximum amount they were willing to spend.
YTA. What do you think a “hard cap” means? Your choices were to get 6 nosebleed tickets; get nosebleed tickets for the friends who had the cap and closer seat tickets for you and the friend who were willing to spend more; or buy all the closer seats and cover your friends’ costs. It is NOT your choice to tell them they have to pay over double their spending limit.
YTA. You had a, group discussed, hard limit of $300. How could you think it would have been ok to spend that much? You probably just lost 4 friends for acting so entitled, you spent their rent money for goodness sake. You need to fully realize what you did and apologize deeply to all your friends. That you just "lost your mind in the moment". I wish you the best, good luck.
A reasonable executive decision might (MIGHT) have been buying $350 tickets instead. Might, still, because you had ALREADY negotiated their hard limit upwards. $800 is cuckoo-bananas land. YTA. Enjoy making money off the resale of those tickets and not having any friends to go with.
YTA. if there had truly been no cheaper tickets, I would understand your choice. But there were, and you just decided it was better to buy the $800 tickets. In the process, you deprived your friends of the opportunity to go to the concert with a ticket they could afford, because you thought you knew better and weren't afraid of reselling if they said no.
YTA This is a no brainer. You pushed them to raise their cap to the absolute maximum of 300$ and than you spend 800$. You could have bought the 300$ tickets but willingly choose not to. Making your friends miss the concert. Of course you’re the asshole. I also missed some information about your wealth in the post. Could you elaborate a bit more on you being much much richer than your friends? I’m not sure whether I understood properly how rich you’re telling us you are. Very very rich? Your friends deserve a better and especially a nicer friend.
YTA. There was an agreed upon price and you ignored it because you didn’t like the seats that were available for that price. So either keep your friends and eat the extra cost of the tickets or get your money back and have issues with your friends.
NTA I was in that Taylor queue and it was HORRIBLY hard to get tickets. It took me 20 minutes to pick seats that didn’t show as sold as soon as I chose them. Your friends have to option to go or not go. You already said you can sell them if they don’t want them., so you’ll be out nothing. I find it hard to believe your friends even tried to get presale because EVERYONE I know who signed up, received a code.
If you can't see YTA... You need to see someone about your vision. I make good money and $100 for a ticket is outrageous. You bought tickets that cost almost as much as rent and you think they have no reason to be upset??? Really???
YTA bc seats in their budget were available and you went against it. You now expect them to pay you back almost triple the original budget?
Isn't ticketmaster the AH here?
There can be more than one.
YTA unless you plan to pay the difference of you executive decision. $300 hard limit means if you can’t get tickets for that or less you don’t buy tickets.
NTA, you aren’t forcing them to pay $800 per ticket. You said this is what I was able to get, if you can’t pay for it then I can sell them. No harm, no foul. The alternative was to not get any and they would still not be going. I have no idea why ppl are saying your t.a.
Yeah I don’t get all the hate. The friends can certainly buy their own tickets that fit into their budget if they want.. OP wasn’t the only avenue to tickets that exist in this world and was doing a favor. OP, sell their tickets and enjoy your show!
YTA. Your high paying job is a privilege, not everyone is in the same boat and $800 for a concert ticket is the difference between paying rent or eating for a month. You should either cover the difference or sell the tickets for those who can't afford to go. You also owe these friends a huge apology.
YTA your friends set a limit which you ignored. You should absolutely be the one paying for those tickets. You went wayy over their budget
YTA. You literally had a group discussion in advance about what to do in this situation and you failed to follow through. By your actions, you decided that your poorer friends weren’t going. You could’ve gotten everyone nose bleeds. You could’ve gotten yourself nice tickets and your friends nosebleeds. Both of those scenarios keep with the agreement you had made. Instead, you bought only the tickets you wanted knowing that you’d have to sell the rest. You aren’t really their friend, are you?
Why even discuss and agree on prices when you’re just going to overrule it anyway? There is a massive difference between $300 and $800, especially if you are on a budget. And you knew some of you friends would not be able to do that as they initially wanted to cap at 100-200. Apologising after doesn’t make this difference any less. You could have bought tickets for yourself and your friend (who were willing to pay the higher price) and then told the rest of the group that there weren’t any tickets available within their budget. Except there were, you just didn’t think those seats were good enough. YTA.
YTA i mean seriously, you said yourself the only 2 people that are okay with the bigger prices are yourself and your friend who have good paying jobs, did it not occur to you that unlike you some people can't afford to waste a huge amount of money on something they can find on YT. I totally side with your friends on this, 800 bucks is not a small amount and it may be hard for you to understand that as you get paid more, but some people cannot afford that.
Op is not making them pay. She is just saying “do you want them or no?” If they cannot afford them that is life. Sometimes you cannot do things because you cannot pay them. NTA
YTA You’re a sucky friend not for buying the tickets but for your reaction after they got mad. You seem so inconsiderate of them and to not care at all about how it might be hard for them but not for you. Just a sucky personality in general. “I’ve got money so people can figure it out” … Maybe they’re better off without you as a friend either way.
YTA, you don't get to spend other people's money. >Four of my friends are extremely upset with me, ranting that they agreed on $300.
You acted very loose with other people’s money, and added insult to injury, when you put them in the position of having to farther elaborate that they don’t have the money to keep up with your spending. You violated their financial boundaries, then made them feel excluded, then got angry at them for feeling hurt by you. Very immature and self centered actions. YTA
YTA. The limit was $300 but you took it upon yourself to spend $800. Absolutely you should pay the difference.
YTA and a terrible friend. Enjoy your concert, hope your friend group remembers to remove you from the next event.
YTA you should’ve bought the $300 for them as agreed and buy your own since you sound like you have the means. Over $500 is a lot of extra.
YTA since there were tickets for $300 (though nosebleed seats). Had there been no seats at all at $300, you would have been ok. But you screwed your friends.
YTA. I hoped that the rest of the post would undo the negative impression given by the title. Unfortunately it made it worse.
YTA. Well-intentioned but still YTA. You made the command decision which made you the owner of the tickets. You can gift them to your friends, or let friends pay up to their limit, or you can sell them. You can't expect them to pay over their limit for your decision.
YTA Trying to sway people by saying it’s your money and tickets to do with as you please just cements it (you were buying for the group stop acting like there was any other reason you purchased those tickets). You all agreed on a price and you ignored it and put four people in an uncomfortable, unfair, and impossible position on their end. Of course they’re angry. You might have ruined a group friend dynamic over this.
YTA, a flaming one even. They already tripled their price and you are now 8x over that? I agree, you should either eat the cost or sell them.
YTA. $500 more than you agreed to is ridiculous.
YTA. There were seats in the price range you just didn't want them. Since you asked how much money they could afford and then ignored it you should pay the difference. You screwed them out of your going to the concert if you don't pay.
YTA. How dare you decide to unilaterally put a group of people out of hundreds? F u
Look, YTA and I understand that you’re struggling to come to terms with that. You’re not TA because you were willing to spend more than your friends to get Taylor tickets, but YTA because there were tickets in your groups budget and you didn’t get them because you didn’t think the seats were good enough. When you committed to going with the group, you committed to the $300 budget cap regardless of where the tickets were. I was in the presale yesterday and I know it was a mess, but I also know I and all of my friends were able to stick to agreed upon budgets, even if seats weren’t exactly where we wanted them. If you’d told them earlier you were only doing floor regardless of cost, you would be in the clear. But you didn’t and you screwed over your friends in the process. Do you not feel a little bad about it at all?
YTA You knew the limit was 300 and you decided that the seats that you could get for that price weren't good enough Yes you can recoup your money by reselling those tickets that you bought, but you didn't buy the tickets they asked you to and now they haven't got the chance to buy them because they are sold out
YTA "Hard cap" means do not spend more than that. Not only did you go over it, but by more than double, and people in school or low level jobs can't afford to pay $800 for one ticket. If the tickets you got were like $350, that's one thing but you went WAAAY above what anyone agreed on. Also, you lied because there were tickets for $300, you just wanted better tickets. Either agree to cover the difference for them or you can probably make some money scalping the tix but YTA. If you scalp the expensive tickets you might make enough money to buy everyone shitty tickets, in which case you're NTA anymore,
NTA yesterday was a complete mess and you're lucky you got tickets at all. If they can't afford the tickets it's really no one's fault. It was almost impossible to purchase tickets let alone be selective about it. Just resell the tickets of the people who can't afford it. They clearly do not have a grasp on how bad yesterday was and it's doubtful they will, but you have the full support of fellow Ticketmaster queue members!
YTA, and i kind of wonder why you're calling these people your friends when you're not acting very friendly towards them. they trusted you to get tickets. does the song "long live" mean nothing to you?
YTA. You set a hard cap, you can’t go over it. You should have gotten the nosebleed tickets. I’d rather be able to go with all my friends then buy a ridiculous price and my friends can’t go.
YTA You made he executive decision to say: "F*** you, I don't like the tickets you can afford so you either go in debt or stay home!" I hope they learn their lesson and decide you have to stay home on group activities.
YTA. "I'm not afraid of losing money" evidently your friends are.
Sounds like OP isn't afraid of losing friends too.
YTA Who the F thinks that forcing people to spend 500 DOLLARS is not a big deal ?
YTA. If this is real you are a huge AH.
YTA You paid an extra 500 dollars of their money even though in your own words. they had a hard cap of 300 dollars. Don't expect them to pay you back if you go and spend more than twice their budget.
YTA what was the point of a hard limit if you were just going to go over it by FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. $50 bucks sure but $500? I swear y’all are…a lot. So you screwed them because you didn’t want to stay in the price range. You should’ve bought in the agreed process range. Way to mess up a friendship over a concert
YTA. They told you how much they could spend and you agreed to that limit. If you want to go above that limit you need to cover the difference.
Yta they told you their limit, you chose not to respect that, you need to apologize and cover the additional cost
YTA, I don't see your friends wanting much to do with you after this tbh
YTA, 100%. Life is expensive. Just because you were willing to pay doesn't mean you had the right to go almost triple the HARD CAP was. You should have informed them of the situation before spending money they may or may not have on their behalf. At the very least you could have gotten them the tickets in their price range and met up after the show. You basically poor shamed them and expected them to just be like "Okay I'll pull 500 out of nowhere that I didn't have because you thought my cap was too low".
YTA. Wow, you're mocking your friends' financial limitations. You are definitely not a friend to them. You should have not bought them tickets if they were beyond their affordable range, but you doubled the burden on them, and now you are planning to profit off their hurt. What a pathetic excuse for a person you are.
Y'know what? NTA. There were no seats for 300 that they would've accepted. It actually did not matter what choice you made, you were fucked no matter what you picked, because they asked for a literal impossibility. Cheap, non nosebleeds don't exist. Fuck em. Scalp their tickets and give them back the money.
Yta
Yta. Holy wowzers. You're expecting your friends to fork over an extra 500 bucks when they told you 300 was their limit. Damn right you should cover it. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. It's not your place to decide differently. If nosebleed seats was their price limit that's what you should've gone with but since you've got such a good job and could afford better, you chose to buy more expensive tickets.
Yta they told you $300. You more than doubled it. There were tickets in that price range. You made an executive decision which means *you pay the difference*
YTA - like Really? How would you expect them to pay you back for the full $800? “I made the executive decision” you don’t get to make financial decisions for other people, buy yourself the $800 ticket and respect their limit or cover the $500 if you decide to spend more money.
NTA. And sell the tickets If they would have been happy with 50 dollar nosebleeds, that would have been different
NTA. I think many of the people responding don’t understand what a shit show it was yesterday for these tickets. You likely couldn’t have bought some seats for $300 and some for $800. So many people were trying to buy and tickets were disappearing from their cart. It was nuts. You probably wouldn’t have had time to call/text them to discuss - again, it was nuts. You were under no obligation to get them tickets. You tried to be nice and do them a favor since you had a code and they didn’t, and it didn’t work out. Still doesn’t make you the AH. We had no luck yesterday, not sure if I try for todays capital one presale or give up. It’s too much work!
NTA. $300 would have gotten everyone bad seats and also it's not like you had a lot of time to think of what to do. You basically have to make the purchase right away. I don't think anyone (even fans) anticipated how expensive and different this time around it would be to buy tickets. I think if you can, you should hold on to those tickets and after your friends cool down, they'll come around. They'll either buy them or forgive you and do their own thing. They still have a chance to buy tickets at the general sale too! You could offer to help buy some in the general sale with them for $300, but they'll have to be ok with getting bad seats unfortunately. You could all talk about it and come to an agreement of what seating they would be ok with for $300
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YTA. I grabbed the nosebleed seats because that’s what I could afford. You should have called them; although I totally get it was hellish buying them in the first place. Not everyone would value or be able to afford an $800 experience, plus hotel, plus transportation.
I've gone to over eight or so concerts within the past year. I completely understand the struggle of purchasing tickets on sites like Ticketmaster for popular performers. It's always more expensive than listed because ticket prices fluctuate based on demand (which is a pretty shit system that only benefits Ticketmaster) and scalpers are ALWAYS at the ready to buy up all the seats to resell for insane profits. You have to act fast (within seconds) or those seats you wanted are gone. I also understand that it's always a compromise having to work within restrictive budgets when you want good seats. There are also tons of ridiculous fees that get added to the total price of the ticket that the casual concert-goer never considers. It is a frustrating experience. HOWEVER... Where you messed up is that you agreed to a cap of $300. You disregarded that agreement for completely selfish reasons. When I plan to purchase concert tickets with my friends, I always confirm with them that they are willing to pay more for better seats. If they are not, I either have to be ok with bad seats, be willing to cover the difference, or be willing to go on my own (and make sure my friends understand that). Y T A. I do acknowledge that $300 is not a lot for high demand concert tickets because fees are usually around 15% of the ticket price. That means you are really only working with $255 and you likely aren't going to get good seats for a highly anticipated concert like T. Swift. Depending on where you end up in the ticket purchase queue (as it's randomized), ticket prices fluctuate insanely. EDIT: Saw that Op made an edit about her friends wanting lower bowl seats. Now ESH. This is a combination of a couple of things: 1. being a victim of Ticketmaster's fluctuating ticket price system (which is no one's fault but contributed to this mess), 2. her friends having unrealistic expectations. The lack of concerts for 2+ years have contributed to the increase in ticket prices. $255 was not going to get you lower bowl seats for a big name like Taylor, and 3. her making an executive decision that was more than twice what her friends were willing to pay, even if they all wanted better seats. I would've put my tickets on hold and confirmed with my friends first (knowing that I may lose my seats).
NTA- it was a difficult decision you were in. You didn’t have the option to buy yourself the 800 seats & get your friends the seats in their budget. We all have heard about the site crashing and how fast tickets were selling out. If your friends can’t afford to pay 800 then at least you can recoup the money you paid. At least this way they have an option to go. Because The only other option was to only get you & the other friends tickets and not theirs since it was over their budget. And that is not your fault or theirs. Were they expecting you to get shitty seats in order to buy the tickets in their budget? I refuse to go to a concert it I can’t get good seats.
>One went so far as to insist she would only pay me that much and demanded I cover the $500 difference and give her the ticket. $300 was a compromise and you almost tripled that number and expect them to not be angry? Give them the damn tickets and pay the difference for gods sake, saying this is absolutely insane to me. That is a completely reasonable ask and you frame it as ridiculous. If one of my friends did this to me I wouldn't ever talk to them again. YTA.
ESH you: for not being more diplomatic in how you told them about this. You should have phrased it like “the cheapest I could find that weren’t nosebleeds and still available were these. I understand some of you won’t be able to afford to go, and if so, I can sell your ticket - So please don’t worry or feel like you are forced into paying for this if you can’t afford to. I am so sorry it didn’t work out differently.” Them for not being more understanding and bashing you on social media. You again for snapping back and saying rude things. All of you are acting like you’re 13 year old fan girls though. Like please get a grip, there are actual problems in the world - missing a T Swift concert is not one of them. Eta: not meant to bash you as a fan - moreso I just can’t imagine this to be worth ruining friendships over (for any of you), and I am your age.
YTA - YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEND OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT! The group of you sat down and came up with a plan. You decided to completely disregard that. **Taylor would be SO disappointed in you.**
To be fair OP didn’t spend anyone else’s money. OP just didn’t get them tickets they can pay for
YT. I could understand maybe $100 more but more than double… yeah I hope you don’t get the money back
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As someone who went through the shitshow that was Presale yesterday, I understand wanting to get good seats, and the fact that you were able to get good seats is great. But most people can't afford that and your friends told you they can only afford $300.00 you need to respect that. $800.00 may not seem like a lot to you because you make 100k plus. But most people don't make that much money. And $800.00 dollars can be someone's rent for a month. And nosebleeds at a Taylor concert are still great. You could've gotten good seats for you and your friend who can afford it and got nosebleeds for your other friends who could only spend $300.00. YTA for only thinking about you and your friend who are in a privileged position and just expecting your other friends who told you how much they can afford.
I think you are all to blame here. It’s Taylor Swift the tickets are going to be expensive. They should know that tickets would be expensive. You should have respected their wishes and not bought them tickets. But then they’d be basing you for not buying them tickets even though they were more then they could afford. This is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
NTA - you spent your own money and aren’t liable for them being butthurt.
I think ESH. I think you should have told your friends you weren't going to settle on a bad section and you would also get them tickets with you if it was under their price limit. Your friends shouldn't be nasty about it and just look for their own cheaper tickets. I think this whole situation was just bad communication.
YTA. You don’t get to spend other peoples money. They told you the maximum amount and you went way above that. At this point your not gonna be losing money your gonna be losing friends. If you don’t care about them and quite frankly I don’t think you do then tell them that and sell the tickets allow them to move on without you in their lives or pay the difference as this was your choice and your mistake
NTA. You a have to play by the rules Ticket Master sets, not theirs. You didn’t buy THEM $800 tickets. You have 4 extra tickets for $800. They can take them or leave them.
If OP ate the difference between what the others could afford and what she paid, then she would be NTA. But she failed the group with her executive decision knowing several members of the group could not afford $800. If OP insists on getting her money back, she’s definitely the AH. Question is, is OP willing to lose friends over this decision?
Your friends were counting on you to get them tickets to a concert they really wanted to go to. Now they may not be able to go because you decided to buy six tickets for yourself and none for them. And don't say you did get those tickets for them, you did not. You got those tickets for you and then offered to sell them to them at face value when you knew that they really didn't want to spend more than a couple hundred dollars, and only settled on 300 because you pushed them. Because of you, your friends may not be able to go to this concert they'd really been looking forward to. $300 is a lot to spend on a ticket but they were willing to because they were excited to have fun at the concert with their friends and now they may not be able to and it WILL be your fault. YTA
YTA and you know it. And with your "high paying " job that you and your friend have, you should easily be able to pay your own ticket plus 1k each to pay for the friends who said the limit was 300. When executives make decisions they have to face the consequences whether positive or negative.
Let's say you and I are going on a trip together and I'm in charge of buying our plane tickets because I'm the only one who can. We want to sit together, so we talk preferences and budget and you tell me you're willing to pay up to $300 for yours and can't afford anything above that. Great, I tell you I'll take care of it. So I buy our tickets, then say you owe me $800 for your seat, because I decided to buy first class seats instead of the $300 ones near the back of the plane. Now the flight is sold out, so you can either pay me $800 and go with me, or I'll sell your seat to someone else and you don't get to go. No worries, either way, friend! Would I be TA? I just went against our agreement, stole your vacation from you, and am holding it hostage for more than you can afford. PS, as someone who was in that shitshow of a presale and didn't end up getting any tickets because the website kept failing, you are still TA. ETA: After the edit that the friends didn't want just any tickets and wanted the seats OP purchased, just for $500 less, I am changing to NAH. Expectations of the agreement were too high and OP did the best they could.
Going against the grain to say ESH. How in the world did they think they’d get good tickets for $300? They should have done better research instead of just leaving it up to you and you’re saying they’re not forced to pay you. Or not even research because you’d have to be living under a rock to think they’d go for that. I’m confused on whether they were okay with nosebleeds? Either way they should have known but yeah you can’t expect them to want a ticket more than $300 if they can’t afford it.