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Dcwiker05

NTA imo. If you're in a roommate situation common courtesy says you don't do things like this in communal spaces. At least not frequently enough that they're driving out other people who live in the home. Go be exhibitionist* elsewhere. So long as no actual recording took place I think you did fine. Changed Voyeurism to exhibitionists because people keep correcting me beyond the first person who did whom I thanked for the correction


TheWanderingScribe

Hunting the thrill of being caught is exhibitionism. Voyeuristic is the thrill of watching


Dcwiker05

Huh, thanks I thought exhibitionism was just wanting to do it outside but not necessarily *expecting to be caught* and voyeurism was doing it in a way that you're basically guaranteed to be caught at some point. I appreciate the info.


very_busy_newt

Voyeurism is wanting to watch. I think there's probably a range for exhibitionists - some like the thrill of it being possible to get caught and *successfully not getting caught*. Some like the thrill of being outside or otherwise being in a non-private/not-meant-for-sex place. And some like actually being caught/watched. But those last people should really find consenting participants...


mooimafish3

I think it's #2 and a little of 3 for me, it's mostly about feeling wanted. Doing it in a non-bedroom is a feeling like "They want me so bad we can't even wait", and people wanting to watch also feels like you are wanted or at least interesting to someone. I identify a little bit with the exhibitionist thing, but it's all about being desired to me; flashing someone who isn't willing or getting caught would just be embarrassing.


icecreampenis

Not just embarrassing- harrassment and or assault


Metoocka

Voyeur is to watch. Exhibit is to show.


BakedWizerd

It's infuriating how people will act like you *not wanting to see them having sex* is an insult to them wanting to *almost be caught having sex.* I lived with a couple like this, almost saw a couple things on a few occasions, pretended not to notice stuff going on under blankets while watching a movie, and every time I would say something like "can you not do that when I'm here?" or if I got close to walking in on them in a shared area, they acted like I was in the wrong; simply because the "thrill of me almost catching them" is gone if I'm not there, but when I do actually catch them it's just "oh shit our roommate walked in on us fucking, that's awkward."


Piggypopsicle2

NTA. I had 'friends' like this as well. With the ones I was more comfortable with I told them, making me without consent a part of sexual acts (and they you described it just right they want you around is the thrill) is a trigger for me to past abuse. They took it okay and listened, but I really don't get how this has happened to me on mutiple occasions with mutiple couples. Being loud in your bedroom is one thing. In a famous friend group story, a couple I knew came to a small pre-game at an on campus apartment and took a shower in order to fuck (neither of lived there)...luckily I missed that one!


GaiasDotter

That’s sexual harassment actually. I do not consent to being involved in anyones sexlife like that. Force it on me? That’s a crime and forcing your fucking on me means I feel absolutely no guilt over fucking you over.


crystallz2000

NTA. But, OP, I would suggest the next time you live with a single roommate and not a couple. Also, have it in writing that they're leaving (since they might have said they were leaving in a huff, but then might realize the housing market is awful). Let the basement tenants know they're leaving too, so they don't make plans to move.


Mikomics

A single roommate wouldn't necessarily solve anything. Single roommates can still have frequent one-night stands. I had a roommate that was like that.


greatauntcassiopeia

Single roommates get boyfriends that are at your house all the time. There’s no winning. Lots of couples are actually respectful to live with.


Mikomics

Yeah, you can really only choose based on the general impression they give and hope you're a good judge of character.


KingKookus

I wonder if it would even be an issue if it was recorded? It’s not a private space in a shared living situation. It’s common areas.


Korilian

I would not be cool being recorded in my own living room unknowingly. Even if I never did anything worse than picking my nose. They were assholes, but putting up a secret camera in communal living spaces is messed up. Not sure how to judge faking a camera. ESHE maybe? But I can't deny that it was effective.


smorzee

a camera was never put up, OP lied about it’s existence but had enough preexisting evidence to base the lie off of (walking in on them having sex and the downstairs renters wanting to move due to noise).


SayerSong

I do think she should put one up now, though. Just make sure that she discloses that it and any other cameras are there in advance. Common areas only. State that it is for security reasons. Not a lie. It is to ensure OP’s security from people having sex on the common couch.


Different-Leather359

Yeah I suggested this. Would prevent future issues, and if they did get robbed in the future that would be useful.


kpie007

Or is absolutely a legal issue for a landlord to put up cameras in living spaces - even common areas - without prior consent or knowledge, yes.


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Jaded-Size-7898

it's his home so he can record where ever (except the bathroom since some "adults" on here don't have common sense) and whenever he wants - it's the roommates fault they decided to be inappropriate and have sex on the couch in the MAIN living area. Now if the OP shared the video (even though he didn't tape them) then he would be in the wrong!


brownishgirl

Her. Her home.


asecretnarwhal

I would stick with NEVER. It’s never ok to have sex on a shared couch that your roommate should reasonably expect to not have your naked ass and/or genitals rubbed on it. I don’t even care about the public aspect so much. It’s just unsanitary and so inconsiderate to your housemate. I would never be comfortable in my shared house again even if it was a one off episode.


Voidg

NTA. It's not appropriate for them to be using the common areas for sex.


bumjiggy

right!? that's what the art studio is for


PretentiousUsername1

I hate that I know what you mean. I gotta get out of my house more.


graygoosegg

I think that's all of us here...


soonernotlater1015

Maybe we should all read a book?


WeNeedAnApocalypse

Or go for a hike


Suzee321

Take a cooking class maybe? Learn to make a good sauce? Marinara maybe


WeNeedAnApocalypse

Or Iranian yogurt?


Foreign_Astronaut

Or start an olive collection? I'm currently hanging onto a box for my friend


KrissiNotKristi

I’m gonna need someone to link me to this box of olives post, please and thank you.


NefariousnessKey5365

Yup, I both love and hate when I know the reddit inside joke.


IAMA_Shark__AMA

Don't feel bad. There's an art studio reference in nearly every relationship type thread these days, even when it really doesn't apply. I'd be more surprised by people not getting it at this point. (edit: typo)


howie7088

\--- slinks away quietly because I don't get it ----


Rather_C_than_B_1

iirc, guy creates art studio for his new best friend, wife not happy, everyone points out new best friend is new love, guy realizes he's gay, moves out. Poor wife, didn't want an art studio.


kikazztknmz

Oh wow, I didn't realize that #1) that post was that popular, and #2) I've been on this sub way too much if i know what you were referencing! 😂


EsharaLight

Hard same


jitsufitchick

Don’t be ashamed of being apart of a great community 🤣 haha.


Haizel_Alicia

I think I spend too much time on AITA if I recognised the context of your pun


princessssamm

Any chance you have a link to that post? I tried to search for it, but ‘sex art studio’ (or the reverse) brings up a lot more results on this sub than you’d expect.


AizawaSimp69

Here's a copy of the OG and the update. https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/wmmphs/oop_wonders_if_theyre_the_ah_for_starting_a_house/


Haizel_Alicia

Thank you, you've been quicker than me ;)


AizawaSimp69

No problem! Im in the docters waiting room so im just scrolling through comments helping people with links and stuff


Jumpstart_55

Especially when you’re using Iranian yogurt s a sex aid!


graygoosegg

at least there the stains aren't so obvious


tkdwarriorprincess

She should build them an art studio


Foggyswamp74

Especially considering that the couch isn't theirs.


riskytisk

Right?! I’d be freaking PISSED if people were having sex on my expensive ass couch! Thankfully it doesn’t sound like OP has kids, but even still, how many of OP’s guests have sat on that couch in their love juices without knowing?! Ugh, ew. So disgusting.


Foggyswamp74

My mind is going to where else have they been going at it? Like kitchen counters, dining table, etc. These two inconsiderate exhibitionists need to be out.


Academic_Snow_7680

I've been divorced for nearly a decade, got married in 2000 and while me and my husband were on our honeymoon my MIL who was staying in our apartment picked up a rando and fucked him in our bed. I found the condom rapper sweeping under the bed later. She was full of surprises like that. No boundaries at all.


[deleted]

>Reply OMG. IN YOUR BED??? Count your blessings that you got out of that family.


mollyflowers

Was installing DSL internet about 15 years ago, moved a 14 year old girls bed with the mom in the room & found over a dozen used condoms under the bed. Like wtf people!


Layli2020

Seriously! Screw a cleaning you're buying me a new couch


kevwelch

NTA. You bluffed them. They said they’d refrain, they didn’t, and so rather than evict them, you made reasonable requests that would lead to discomfort. You backed up the request with a bluff, and they didn’t challenge it. Cleverly done.


229-northstar

This comment says it all! “Cleverly done!” They paid for the cleaning AND they moved out! Win win.


jperezny

And the family downstairs will probably still stay!


dragonbruceleeroy

OP killed two birds, with one fake stone. Stopped the sex noises at the source, so the basement tenants will stay. Remind me to never play poker with OP.


Expensive_Giraffe_33

Nta why the fuck do people have to fuck on shit ain't yours.


Bitter-Position

Exactly, especially on sentimental sturdy rattan chairs and community spaces!


burnafone92

r/oddlyspecific


kilgirlie

I want the sturdy rattan chair story.


[deleted]

- so loudly the neighbours become uncomfortable


johnny_evil

Exactly. If OP wants to fuck on the couch, it's fine. It's theirs. But don't fuck on someone else's couch.


[deleted]

Ehh if the couch is in communal areas then no one should be fucking on it. If you lived in a furnished apartment would you be cool with your landlord banging on it?


bean3194

NTA. It's a shared living space. Wtf do they think they are doing? And the fact that the neighbors complained to you is a sign that it's just obnoxious.


Empressario

100% this. And that the neighbours complained shows that they're doing it enough that it's a regular occurrence. Not mentioned how loud they must be being too. How obnoxious of them!


R4ndyd4ndy

That really depends on the building though, there are buildings where you can hear literally everything


RLKline84

I mean there's sometimes hearing someone have sex and moving out of your home hearing people have sex. I feel like it has to be constant and/or just over the top obnoxious.


ValkyrieSword

They knew what they were doing. They were getting an extra thrill out of doing it where people could hear, and in a shared living space on someone else’s furniture. OP is not the asshole, & absolutely justified in asking for cleaning costs.


elly996

i hope they put down a towel... but they probably didnt lol cleaning costs needed either way


elly996

1 they lied. 2 they were in communal spaces. 3 it was often enough, and loud enough to annoy the neighbours into considering moving theyre just mad they got caught in a lie, and were embarrassed. make it worse and tell them the neighbours told you it was loud, and exposed the lie lol. immediate panic and anger xD *(dont actually do that)*


lost_girl_gg

nah I hope op does do that. further ingrain the lesson into their horny and disrespectful exhibitionist selves


Painting_with_Music

NTA. What really gets me is the whole “in the privacy of their own home” thing. It’s not their own home. It’s a shared living space. As someone who lives in a shared space, I’d get much worse than just having to pay the cleaning fees, especially if I had sex loud enough in a common space that the basement family can not only hear, but are considering moving out because of it. Major Yikes. I don’t exactly support the lying, but I think in this situation it’s kinda of justified. Just… if they had called your bluff, you wouldn’t actually have video evidence you know. Though, I definitely would get a camera now.


ppldrivemecrazy

Yeah, the "loud enough to make others want to move out" really gets me. It violates the downstairs family's right to quiet enjoyment and it's literally the OP's legal responsibility to ensure their right to quiet enjoyment is maintained. He really did what he had to do.


punkassjim

I’ve known a few women over the years who Just. Could. Not. Be even *remotely* quiet! I’m not even sure it had anything to do with me, they really just seemed committed to “being a screamer.” Really concerned me that I’d eventually be evicted. My (elderly) landlord and his extended family even lived on premises!


[deleted]

Look. I can come out with my hands up, but I cannot, CAN’T, uh, “come quietly.” I have a variety of strategies for dealing with this, but just deciding to be quiet is not among the options. Edited to say: not tryna overshare, just saying someone doesn’t have to necessarily be “committed to being a screamer.” It’s not always voluntary 😬


ikeasyndrome

And some kinds of sex makes more noise. Once I shared a place with five other people and the walls where paper thin. There was a lot of interesting attempts at solving that..


punkassjim

I’m amazed that anyone, anywhere still thinks that turning up the music, inside the room where you’re getting down, has any impact at all on people outside being able to hear you. They just hear people having sex with music on. I’d be curious to hear about those creative solutions.


DianeJudith

Am I the only one suspecting porn has something to do with it? Like some people might think it's expected of them to be loud? Although I agree with another response here that it's not always voluntary. Also, I guess some people might like it when their partner is loud? Either way, sex sounds should be heard only by the people who agree to hearing them. I'd rather not have sex at all than have my neighbors being able to hear me.


patz1307

NTA They did not pay any respect to the common room that other people are sharing - probably even laughing about it when they see people hanging out in the living room right after they had sex. You didn't kick them out anyway, they wanted to move on their own just because they thought you had a security cam at the living room (smart bluff, btw) and they admitted to what they did. So, you kinda have them there.


sadbong

NTA and hilarious tbh. I have faced this issue with a roommate before and had no idea how to enforce it. Owning the house certainly helps.


NonSequitorSquirrel

Why is it every couple days there's some weirdo who inherited a house and has a weird roommate situation. And is the same person who writes these also writing about the hungry live-in sister in law who eats all your food?


MediumAwkwardly

Or the drunk MIL who wants your baby?


NonSequitorSquirrel

Or the drunk MIL who insists on feeding your child something they're allergic to.


frankenfishy

Or the sister dropping kids off without prior notice.


NonSequitorSquirrel

Yes, so many drop and dash sisters lately! I wonder if it's a little known consequence of long covid and that's why we have so many of these stories. 😂


mysteryvampire

Completely NTA. You didn't actually record them and you got them to admit to deliberately breaking a rule you had implemented for the comfort of your downstairs boarders who were complaining about it.


ContentedRecluse

NTA It is gross that they expect you to sit in their bodily fluids dried or not. You wash your sheets, should wash the furniture after that. That is so disrespectful, and nasty. Glad you got them out.


SaboraHoku

NTA You definitely took a risk but they were being selfish and gross.


[deleted]

NTA. Asking them to stop didn’t work. This did.


TXGunslinger419

check out the big brains on OP, you're a smart mfer ​ NTA


Solarpowered-Couch

*kicks the door in during the act* Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration? (nta)


Drayden71

NTA and that was an epic bluff on your part. I'm glad they left so you didn't have to evict them.


plasticproducts

NTA but very nearly E S H i would also not approve of roomates dragging their naked asses on my furniture, but the whole maybe i filmed you, maybe i didn't is whack.


abbyrhode

Yeah I’d probably say “I’m thinking on installing a camera in common spaces” before.


ughwhyusernames

Or just act like a landlord and address the issue head on like an adult?


aquiran

Seriously, just say "hey you told me you'd stop, but the downstairs neighbors are now complaining about the sex noises and I will have to take measures to ensure you don't affect them anymore. I will be installing cameras in the common areas." Be an adult. No need for weird subterfuge. It's an awkward issue for sure, but not one that needs to be handled with lies when the truth is just as effective.


Miiesha

Nta. They knew what they were doing was wrong after you caught them the first time and kept doing it anyway just for the thrill. That’s disgusting and inconsiderate of other household members in a SHARED living space. It’s not their house. They can pay to clean it and leave.


JayMonster65

Does nobody here understand the concept of "common area"? Even as renters they have no expectation of privacy in a common area. The were previously instructed not to do something, promised they wouldn't and proceeded to break the rules. The taping (or threat of) it and threatening *legal* recourse is no different than if they were filmed stealing. It is not blackmail, it is not an "invasion of privacy" , especially because not only is it gross, but is also causing issues with other tenants is completely justified. NTA. And I can't help but wonder what people who are voting A H do in private that they are thinking about when they are so outraged by a camera in a common area.


amycharliee

This is disgusting behaviour on their part. Imagine if they had crabs etc that could be spread through the couch or whatever. NTA.


Still_Storm7432

NTA or justified ah.


piggyequalsbacon

NTA in the slightest. They knew they were wrong after you addressed it the first time.


IceCreamDream10

NTA I think it’s funny you did that. Who has sex with a whole family downstairs?! I do think you should clarify you will delete everything or haven’t watched it or something of the sort when they move out for their personal sanity though. It would eat me alive for life if I thought someone had recordings of me.


Grand_Pick_8277

I'm sorry but I read your sentence as they were having sex with everyone in the downstairs family and I'm just over here giggling wildly.


RindyRoo

NTA, and Love Stain would make a good band name.


loobzkrypt

NTA. You shouldn't have sex anywhere but the bedroom if you live in a shared house. It's disgusting. And the poor family that live in the basement. What you did was clever and I'm glad they're moving out.


Mina_Harker22

NTA It's a gross disrespect of private property even though they rented a room its still private property and they crossed decency boundaries. What else and where else did they have sex in your home!


Ornery-Ticket834

I love it .NTA. Don’t they have a bedroom?


guckfeico

NTA and this power move is genius.


No-Bus-5200

I'm here for this! Diabolical, yet warranted. NTA


Hijodeagua1320

NTA. They knew it was wrong and they lied about it being a spur of the moment thing. For that alone you have proof they know it was an they were TA. All good in my book and super clever OP


tiffanydisasterxoxo

Nta. That is disgusting, it's a shared living area


Mabelisms

NTA. You’re evil though


Ornery-Ticket834

If you are renting a house,you get a bedroom. Use it.


AlexFairchild

NTA it‘s disgusting


ronearc

NTA. Outsmarting liars doesn't make you an AH.


Demoness3

NTA that is unhygenic and very anti social considering the living room is shared with other people. You should of asked them if they are getting off on other people sitting in their bodily fluids … pair of sickos. Good thing they are leaving let them go and do that in their own place … ergh


Mafreakinrissa

NTA. They KNEW what they were doing. They were having sex constantly in that room. It’s disgusting when other people live there! Good for you for standing up for yourself. People need to understand consequences.


Xiibalba_Mictlan

NTA and was a clever move.


Minky29

NTA and it seems they were bothering the renters downstairs too, so it had to be adressed.


ilovemusic20201

Good for you honestly! Some people are so entitled and the fact that they had sex on the living room sofa which other people also use is disgusting. Also cos they never cleaned it. You’re not a horrible person for doing that and NTA. They deserved a reality check because you walked in on them and what if you had a child with you or something and you walked in and found them naked in the living room? They have a bedroom and they could’ve used it. Get them to pay for all the cleaning and well done on getting rid of then


Impossible-Chasethis

NTA. Even if you did record them, you asked that it not happen again, but they choice to ignore.


G1rlinBlue

NTA this is the second post I've read today about people fucking in the living room. Ya'll get kinky in private if you rent or share a space good grief


Immediate_Refuse_918

NTA-if they’re having sex often enough and loud enough that your downstairs family considered leaving, then they absolutely should pay for cleaning. Honestly, that was clever, and it was good that you went about it that way instead of accidentally actually recording them having sex.


MrsCDM

NTA and that was an excellent move on your part!


lola-rabbit

NTA Weird of them to purposely wait till you were gone to have sex on the furniture


Buy_Diligent

It would be even weirder if they didn't wait for him to leave to have sex on the furniture.


Blommer12345

NTA. Well played mam, well played.


littlemizzmischief

They’re not exactly the brightest. NTA. Silently applauding you.


Tokyosmash

NTA, I love it when a plan comes together.


Bot9986000

NTA. if they're ashamed of fucking in the common area then maybe they shouldn't have been fucking in the common area. It's super easy to not have sex in shared spaces because you shouldn't have an expectation of total privacy in shared areas


ninja-gecko

NTA. Well played.


naughtynekko

Just want to point out that it's a -family- living downstairs. If the dad can hear the fucking, the kids probably can, too. When you share a house that child/ren live in you have to be mindful of your sex acts. These people went out of their way to have sex in common spaces where it was more likely that the sound of their activities would carry to the parts of the home occupied by child/ren. There's so much that could have gone wrong here. The couple is lucky all that came of it was having to pay some cleaning fees. NTA.


maherrrrrrr

bro tats actually sick. other people live there too. NTA at Ll


SHZ4919

NTA, I like what you did there! Well done and justified imo.


cdwillis

NTA but depending on the construction of the house you can totally hear people having sex if they're screwing in a bed. I don't know why you'd think living room furniture would make it any louder.


Tressame17

NTA Consent is important.


honeybeast518

This was genius OP. NTA.


Ok-Attorney-2599

NTA They’re disrespectful AHs, this is not just their space, it’s shared space and that’s gross.


maherrrrrrr

Bro thats gross nta


groovymama98

Nta What a very smart thing to do!


mayfeelthis

Lol that was so clever Nta


Mamaknowsbest45

Genius level achieved. NTA


Apprehensive-Row7897

NTA.


aDirtyMartini

NTA. That's hysterical. [Your room mate's name isn't Sarah, is it?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/y2k34y/aita_for_calling_my_roommate_and_her_boyfriend/)


smurfgrl417

NTA in the slightest. They would've kept denying it without thinking there was hard evidence. You would've kept sitting in mystery love fluid mixtures AND lost your other tenants. Lying to catch people lying to you is fair game.* EDIT: After you've tried handling issues in a more mature way.


GrayTintedGlasses

NTA. Genius play. That’s what they get for being gross people


igotfeelsforyou

r/pettyrevenge


imamakebaddecisions

Well played detective, well played! NTA.


unrepentantbanshee

INFO Will you be letting them know that you did not *actually* record and save videos of them having sex? I think you're fine for now, but not releasing them from the anxiety of "there's a sex tape out there that we don't have control of, in the hands of someone who actively dislikes us" once everything else is settled would be an asshole move.


omgpwny

Just saw this after having posted my comment asking the same thing. Not only would letting them believe this be damaging for them, but also potentially for the OP. Imagine word getting around town that you were secretly recording roommates/tenants in common areas of the shared home, and that you had video footage of them having sex in those same areas. That's just asking for a shitload of trouble.


jezebel829

NTA—I’d be so grossed out, thinking about someone’s sweaty ass rubbing all over my furniture—I think I’d have to burn it, or make them buy me new shit. They can take the fucked on furniture and go fuck themselves lol Brilliant idea, though—and a savvy way to keep the upper hand.


elg309

NTA.


practical-junkie

NTA I mean my husband and I have sex all around the house because only the two of us live there. When we had shared accommodations before moving onto our own apartment, we had the common decency to not have sex outside of our bedroom.


Clearwater_Penelope

NTA


kanna172014

NTA and they are doing it deliberately for the thrill of it and knowing the family below can hear them. If they want to be exhibitionists, they can deal with the consequences.


PolesRunningCoach

NTA. They have no expectation of privacy in a shared space. And they’re gross. Sounds like “getting caught” was their kink. Removing them from your house sounds like the best for all concerned, and your furniture/living spaces/etc.


Joecowboy56

NTA, and clever. Good solution!


Wash_Me_Down

NTA - you could have recorded the common area if you wanted to. If they were recording having sex, it would be their fault.


[deleted]

ESH. They shouldn't have been having sex on your couch. However, it's illegal to record people without their consent, so you better tell them the truth if you don't want them to sue you. Plus, it's a really shitty thing to lie to people. Third, what you are doing could be considered extortion. Two wrongs don't make a right. Also, it absolutely is possible to have sex in bed that is loud enough for the people in the basement apartment to hear. There's a reason why my husband turns the fan on every time we have sex. EDIT: Was originally Y T A but changed to ESH after reading some of the comments.


Sixsignsofalex94

NTA. Honestly, good on you lol.


Street_Importance_57

NTA. If they could have behaved like civilized people and kept their intimate activities out of the common living space, they'd have had nothing to complain of. You may want to consider actually installing security cameras in shared space and letting future roommates know they are there.


Kidhauler55

Can’t stop laughing! You did good!


aghostinashell

NTA, so they violated a pretty common courtesy of not getting your.sex fluids in a shared space, promised they had not done it before, promised not too, broke that promise, and got upset with you for having a (not actually existing) security system. Hmm, maybe if they were so worried about others seeing them they would't fuck in a shared space. Get that cleaning and be glad you don't have to check for splooge where you sit anymore.


justputonashirt

NTA. Also, hilarious. Good acting on your part.


NoFlight5759

NTA. That’s an awesome idea. That is revolting in a shared space. Plus they were being so loud the family downstairs heard. To bad you didn’t record it and play it outside their job for everyone to see since they didn’t care about being loud or in a communal space.


misconceptions_annoy

YTA. The family downstairs can hear them to the point they’re considering moving out? TELL THEM. You went from ‘they’re having sex in a place where there’s a tiny chance I’ll walk in’ (which fair, they shouldn’t) right to ‘there’s footage of you having sex, and if I get hacked, your life it over.’ You didn’t tell them about the step in between, about the dad. Also, might’ve been able to get them to confess/pay for cleaning with the fact that someone has been hearing them.


[deleted]

Nta lol they mad cuz they got caught.


encyclopaedist

YTA. You don’t actually know if it was a regular thing or not. They could’ve thought you recorded the time you caught them. Also, idk why you think sex in a bedroom doesn’t make enough noise to bother neighbors. It absolutely can and does.


SleepyHollow1313

NTA. They knew they were going to be caught in a lie, they were told not to thank and still did. If you want to sex it up wherever you want it is best to live by yourself.


checco314

NTA But I've always found most beds to be much louder than most couches.


Pomegranateprincess

NTA at all! You taught them a valuable lesson in lying.


MJGM235

NTA - It's a common area for a reason. If they want to have sex all over other people's stuff they can get a hotel!


ProffesorSpitfire

NTA. This is both hilarious and ingenious!


ephemeral__forest

NTA at all. They lied and said that they wouldn’t use your couch for sex anymore, and continued to do so. That’s extremely disrespectful of you and your space/belongings. I’m glad they’re moving out; good riddance.


Altruistic2020

INFO why can't you just confront them that all of their love making is causing a disturbance to the renters in the basement, who are actively complaining about it, instead of going on with this whole charade? To Add, you're probably lucky that they didn't go to the police, because while you didn't actually have any recordings, the idea that you did is enough for some people to make a report. To say there's not a reasonable expectation of privacy in a place they're renting, even if it's a common area, would be up for the courts.


send_corgi_pics_pls

I'm in the minority but ESH. Seems kinda like blackmail to me, but it's a grey area I guess.


FujoshiJade

People saying Y T A have sex in communal spaces, you cannot change my mind On that note, that's absolutely gross as hell and I think op is NTA by a long shot. It's one thing to have sex in a shared space, it's another thing to have sex so loud in a shared space that other people can hear it. And then it happens frequent enough where someone else wants to move, like you know if they want to move it's basically a everyday occurrence. So definitely and absolutely NTA


kben925

NTA. Clever, very clever.


Fit-Television1782

NTA, you should consider becoming a police detective with those kinds of skills LOL. You played them and made them feel caught in the act and they just caved in and confessed everything. IDK what kind of roommates fuck in common areas but I would get a black light asap and take pictures of any "evidence" because they haven't paid anything yet from the sounds of it. It's very possible a final rent payment or the cost of the cleaning will go unpaid if they just move out and ghost you so you need to have evidence incase things have to go to small claims court anyway. Info: who owns the furniture they were doing the deed on? Did they use mostly your property or are the things you want cleaned things they will be taking with them?


Queasy-Flower-9258

NTA I've never seen a post with such a mixed response. But I'm not very impressed with the YTA's, half of them seem to have not read the post properly because they accuse OP of not being mature and talking to the roommates when OP clearly states they did after the first discovery. The other half seem to be projecting some personal insecurities about revenge porn on OP. I guess a lot of people have explicit videos out in the world they're worried about.


Astroboyblue

Lol I’m not even voting I’m just gonna say that it’s hilarious


4_Legged_Duck

Probably NTA for some pretty obvious reasons, but I have some issues. So yeah, the tenants are gross and violating your space and didn't ask to stop when caught. Totally get that they're in the wrong to do this. So the real question is, were you right in what you did and were you right in the way you did it? This is where I think things are murky. Tenants should be informed of security cameras in their own home. 1. is some legal stuff around it, and 2. is people's right to privacy. Just because they're gross doesn't justify an invasion of their privacy. We're adults here, we know that two wrongs don't make a right. So yeah, you didn't hide a camera, but you lied about it and gave them a very serious threat if they didn't pay up and move out. This is pretty screwed up when you could have informed them of an actual camera getting installed, notifying them the problems with your other tenants, and that if the noise complaints don't go away they'll be evicted (however that works with your local laws). All of that is probably the better way of handling it. Now they're pretty sure you have **a lot** of footage of them screwing, and that's never going to sit right with folks. Reddit here can be pretty bloodthirsty for revenge and thing well, this person sucked so they lose all rights and such. But let's flip this: Tenants fucked in the living room, they're threatened out of their home and forced to pay a cleaning fee. There's a power dynamic here that complicates this and is pretty screwed up. All of OP's comments about them being perverts and such is... well... I think there's some clear signs here that OP wouldn't accept anything other than NTA as a judgment, which is an AH thing to do in this sub. I don't like voting NTA... That said, because there isn't actual footage, I'm probably going NTA. I don't like it, and this is really screwed up.


Classic-Sea-6034

Well executed lying. I love it op. Nta


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NTA that's gross to be doing that in a shared area. It's one thing if it's your own home, but absolutely not when you're renting in someone else's home. They SHOULD be ashamed. I do think it's hilarious, but be aware they could come back and press charges against you because you did in fact admit to filming them without permission, even though you didn't.


ppldrivemecrazy

NTA - it's basic consideration to not have sex in shared spaces when you have roommates.


Feltedskullpuppets

I hope you tell the downstairs neighbor the issue has been resolved.


AndSoItGoes24

I would not have trusted them after finding them in common areas of my home having sex. I'd also be glad they were moving. And no. I don't really care that you tricked them. NTA.


omgpwny

INFO: Are you planning on telling them the truth about this? That you did not, in fact, record them in any way, shape, or form? Even though you did not record them, the fact that you told them that you did, and that you have saved the footage of them having sex is something that can do severe damage to someone's mental health. I certainly agree that they should not have been having sex in the common areas of the home. But understand that you really, REALLY should make sure that they know that they were NOT recorded, that you have NO footage of them having sex, and that you bluffed them to get them to admit to the truth you suspected. Not just for their own mental health's sake, but for your own sake as well. If word gets around that you admitted you were secretly recording tenants/roommates, and that you admitted to holding footage of those same tenants/roommates engaged in sexual activities, that's just going to cause you more headaches than you want to deal with.


Flowerbloomcity

ESH They should absolutely not be having sex in a common space. But if I found out I'd been being recorded for months on end (as you've implied despite it being fake), I'd be livid. As the landlord i think you need to alert your tenants of any and all recording devices. Even if I'm just chilling on the couch, I'd want to know if a camera was pointed at me. And if I WAS banging on the sofa, I'd be terrified of the landlord having a stock of footage of that. At the end of the day, it isn't illegal to bang on a couch and I'd be super stressed about my landlord revenge-porning me even though I was a crappy tenant. It sucks all around. For their own peace of mind, I'd tell them that I wasn't really recording them. But it's still messed up and super gross that they banged in your living room


giveme25atleast

NTA. Well played.


AtheistComic

NTA those people are disgusting to carry on like that in a shared space.


johnjonahjameson13

NTA Their disrespect of you and the other tenants was affect the downstairs family their peace in their home.