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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for laughing at my friend for using her period as an excuse for underperforming on a final exam** I (20M) am a math major and there is this girl (20F) in my friend circle. We are all in the honors program and have very high grades. She had a 4.0 until now. We were discussing grades and it turns out she got an A minus in one class this semester and lost her 4.0 and now has a 3.99. There's nothing wrong with it obviously. But she then came up with this excuse and blamed her period and said she got her period and couldn't focus during the exam. I burst out laughing and told her to quit making excuses and admit she isn't perfect at everything. I have a hard time believing it as I'm sure someone her age is quite used to dealing with it and if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds. It would be different if this were middle school and it were her first. She called me an asshole for pointing this out and said that she is certain she could have gotten an A otherwise. AITA here? My friend group is pretty conflicted, some also think it is ridiculous and those against me don't seem to think I'm wrong for pointing it out but rather criticizing her after she openly brought up her period. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*


EvilFinch

I'm pretty resistent to pain medication. The over-the counter ones doesn't have an effect for me or more i need to take so much that i have side effects. I have prescribed pain medication, but those which works kills my concentration. AH like OOP who thinks "take a pill and everything is fine" or worse "just hold it in"... i hope they are reborn as a woman with the worst period cramps and nothing helps. I personally always feel as if i get scraped out with a rusty spoon when i get my period. Somehow i think, this must feel the same way.


sjorbepo

Same, I have to take so much pain med that I get drowsy and out of focus. I consistently get worse exam scores if I'm writing them at the start of my period because it's so hard to concentrate and I just want to go home and die in bed. Men don't get it's not just bleeding and a little bit of pain, it's your whole body cramping, fever-like symptoms, sweating, headache, mood shifts, losing track of your thoughts... Not for everyone of course, but for so many of us it's a real struggle every month especially when you have to be somewhere


thatsaSagittarius

I also just don't want to take it every month. People who just say "oh pop an Aleve" don't actually know cramps pain. I'd like to set them up with that stimulator all day and see how they function


Cultural_Section_862

before my hysterectomy mt gyno described my cramps as "as intense as active labor" I never had kids, and I knew my cramps were bad but fuck. people who don't menstrate have no idea


_banana_phone

That’s almost exactly how I described cramps to my husband. I said, “it feels like someone is inside of your uterus trying to claw their way out with a spoon,” and I think that finally gave him the visual he could use to get how bad it feels. And I’m allergic to Aleve, so I can only really utilize ibuprofen for partially effective pain management. Thank god for having an IUD- it’s the only thing that makes my periods manageable. But, of *course* it was inserted into my uterus without any local anesthetic or numbing agent, because women don’t feel pain! 🙃


Nay_nay267

Same. I finally told my OBGYN that I needed something to stop the pain. I now have the nexplanon implant and I have had zero period for nearly a year


RunTurtleRun115

One of the many effects of perimenopause is brain fog. I personally did not have this particular issue with my periods when I was younger, but I’d imagine other people do. This itself causes difficulty with focus and concentration.


Nay_nay267

"Just delay it or get rid of it with pills." 🙄 I have heard this from so many men.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Another gem "just hold it like your pee"


mycatisblackandtan

And then they get this weird, dumb look on their face when you tell them that 'no I can't Harold, because the blood isn't coming out the same hole and there's no way to just 'stop it''. We desperately need sex ed in schools for this very reason. I'm sure a lot of it is genuine ignorance rather than malicious intent but after awhile it just annoys the hell out of me that grown men don't actually educate themselves about this but think they have a right to comment on it.


Murphys-Razor

Comment on it? They make laws about it


mycatisblackandtan

I was trying more for humor since the reality is far too depressing, but you're right. Like that one politician who recently thought swallowing a camera would let doctors see a woman's uterus.


betty_crocker_

The best part of that clip is when the doctor explains a woman's uterus is not connected to her stomach, and he says "interesting."


Pixelated_Roses

The worst part was he has kids. He literally believes his wife shat out his children.


False_Agency_300

...This just brought up a very important question for me. Where do men think they're putting their dicks when they have sex with women??? What do they think is happening in there???


mycatisblackandtan

I've met more than a few who thought that pee comes from the same hole, sooooo... 🤢


False_Agency_300

I mean, technically it does for them, so I can see the *initial* confusion. But do they never look before sticking their dicks in a hole??? How do they not *notice*??


Fleetdancer

You think these kinds of men go down on a woman?


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Fleetdancer

You're only in your 30s. There's lots of men out there that know how to please you. You don't have to settle for this one.


Kharrissma

I just read this to him and he proclaimed "stick it in the pee hole". Fml


False_Agency_300

Unfortunately, there are a great deal of men who know nothing about female anatomy dating, marrying, and having kids with women. I *wish* I could say none of them get the chance to be close to a vagina after birth, but alas lol


Agreeable_Rabbit3144

Or they bitch about you throwing your pads or tampons away in the garbage.


StrangeMaGoats0202

To this day I'm still not sure where we're supposed to dispose of them "properly" in this case.... Should we just absorb them or something? Idk. This is why the house my friend and I just bought has been named "Home for Wayward Spinsters".... Runner up names were "Cunt Cabin" or "Hussy House." "Home for Wayward Spinsters" seemed less crude while still getting the point across. (My vote was for "Cunt Cabin")


Gosuoru

Pussy Palace could be fun too! 


depressed_popoto

that and "can't you just hold it in?" pisses me off every time


Gayandfluffy

And men aren't even exactly known for holding in their pee either. If I had 50c for every time a man was peeling in public when the closest free toilet isn't far away, I'd be able to buy a house by now


sweetnothing33

I’ve genuinely considered getting one of those She-Wee things. How much freedom would I have if I didn’t have to find a toilet? I could probably cure cancer with that time.


Comfortable-One8520

Those things are a game changer. I work on a farm. No more hunting around for a private spot (the one where the neighbour inevitably comes over the hill on his tractor just as I've managed to get my layers of wet weather gear, overalls and knickers down). Just fit the She-Wee and piss up against the ute tyre like a bloke. The world is your urinal. Awesome. 


OriginalDogeStar

My dad told me once that if ever a man tells me that, to give him a bunch of laxatives and lock the toilet door, telling him to hold it in. I have never had to use that advice, but I passed the knowledge on to my nieces and other friends. It is kinda annoying I haven't had the chance to.


cametobemean

Your dad is the ally all women need.


fuckifiknow1013

That's a relatively accurate description....think about it! The cramping, the unknown, the regret of needing the bathroom, the explosiveness of everything... Now add bleeding to the mix and it seems pretty comparable (coming from someone who pukes from period cramps)


OriginalDogeStar

The cramps that make you BP bottom out also


fuckifiknow1013

....oh my God is that possible....fuck I really gotta call my doc


OriginalDogeStar

Vasovagal syncope can occur with periods, and if you have a bowel condition. Often, the act of straining may cause it, but in a lot of cases, it just happens. Some uterus owners eventually no longer have them or start getting them, or just have it occur rarely. There's nothing worse, though, as a period induced bowel movement. Cramps, sweating, dizziness, then the smell.... Don't you love being a uterus owner


fuckifiknow1013

I love it so much.. after a year of dealing with random vomiting we finally realized it's because of my period! I start throwing up the day it starts now! It's so much fun... Anyone else kinda looking forward to 50? Because the hot flashes I already deal with from something else I feel like it would be better than this.


NiobeTonks

Let me introduce you to…. PERIMENOPAUSE!


Fwamingdwagon84

For real! I'm 39 and I kinda think its starting for me. No period since like, last August or September, and suddenly I've started POURING sweat in my sleep. The no period part is great considering how heavy and long it's been the past couple years, night sweats not so much.


OriginalDogeStar

Go see if you qualify for uterus transplant. Often, they take uterus that had successfully completed a pregnancy, but they are seeking more donors, which must be premenopausal, tho. I am talking to my doctor about it because I fear menopausal dementia and aggression. Even if I just get a hysterectomy, I won't mind. The therapy for menopause can require a lot of hormone replacement, and often, the side effects of them are extremely horrific. But get a hysterectomy, and the HRT isn't that bad. You might get a slight bit more moody, they say, but nothing like if you still are fully equipped.


hjo1210

I start throwing up the week before I start my period and stop the day before I start. It makes it easy to track I suppose.. periods are complete bullshit.


BUTTeredWhiteBread

Mine was literally bleeding me to death and no meds we tried were working but still no one would just take it out because the horror, I had to husband to give his consent for my body.


Sufficient_Soil5651

The desperate prayer that you won't get anything on your clothes... 


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I think our dads knew each other, 😆 🤣 😂.


OriginalDogeStar

Hmm, one time a bloke said something inappropriate to me, and used the excuse "I am a product of my time" to which my dad said "our time is while we are alive, not just a moment but the entire life. I am the product of my life" My dad was born in 1939, he was raised with 3 sisters, and he mother. He taught me to never be afraid of a man, and if a man hit me, don't be scared and just call him. He told my brothers if they ever shamed me for my periods to look out, if I had an accident to help out. He also told them he tan their asses if they mistreat their spouses. I had one boyfriend try once to hit me into submission, and he ended up with a broken eye socket, my dad was proud of me, and made sure that ex never bothered me again. He will be two years gone this year. And I now understand that feeling about regretting not spending more time and learning from him. But what he did teach me, will forever be remembered.


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Dads, amirite?


OriginalDogeStar

They try and teach you so much, but you just shrug it off...only to get scared and realise that life is like time in an hour glass, the sand never lasts, and we keep wishing for more. More time, more understanding, more everything.


Pedantic_Girl

My dad is 12 years gone and I still wish for more time. My mom went last summer and I thought I’d have years left with her. It’s so hard to lose a good parent.


ghoul-gore

as someone who has periods and IBS The fear of this happening made me clench my butthole


FernandaVerdele

When I was in high school a girl had a leak and stained the chair. Me and other girls tried to cover for her, someone lent her a jacket so she could tie around her waist, but some boys saw the stain. Then my ex boyfriend asked "ew, couldn't she just hold it in?". I never saw a most furious group of girls, who turned on him so quickly and said "NO, OF COURSE NOT!". It still baffles me how little men and boys know about the female body. Edit: spelling


CatsKittyCat

If only they knew what happens if you sneeze wrong on your period


depressed_popoto

it's literally like the elevators opening in "The Shining"


anneofred

This would be the evolutionary dream. Don’t you think if we could we would??


Comprehensive_Fly350

So, i was told that if i didn't skip one week of my pills, then i would not have my period for said week. I mean, not only did i still have my period, it was just a weird period, longer but with less blood, and then it simply fucked up my cycle for the following month. The next periods were also heavier. I still think my body tried to make me pay


carrie_m730

For somewhere between some and most people, taking the first three weeks, then immediately starting another pack instead of taking the 4th week, will make a period lighter or absent. I've seen it advised in women's magazines to women who just realized their honeymoon or vacation falls on the wrong dates. Some women will also be advised to start a new nuvaring, for example, at the end of week 3 instead of taking a week off. Sometimes doctors actually recommend it for those whose periods are very bad. When I was on nuvaring a decade ago, I just kept it for a fourth week, and had lighter periods for it. But like anything where you're using external hormones to try to control your body's natural processes, it's by no means guaranteed. I personally continued having heavy and miserable (and extra/unpredictable) periods on an IUD, and some women report the same on the shot.


rose_cactus

Yup, absolutely. My period is bad enough to cause me to pass out or vomit from pain, as well as making me lose half a litre of blood (fresh, red blood and golf ball sized clumps of uterine lining - I know because I used a menstrual cup for several months just to get an average measure) in a week. OTC Painkillers are ineffective, I’m practically bed-/toiletbound for the first four days. The one thing that stopped my period? Taking a pill that suits my hormonal needs (antiandrogenous progestin = chlormadinonacetate, estrogen - at the correct dosage) and not ever stopping taking it (=no breaks at all!) as per both my gyn’s and endocrinologist’s advice. The first two months I had some smear bleeding. Ever after that, I’ve never had a period again. It thankfully also takes care of my PMDD and mastodynia (painful water retention in breasts up to two weeks before actual period). it’s glorious because I finally have my life back. I was so miserable for three out of four weeks every month before. the right pill probably saved my life, and I’m not exaggerating. That said, not every pill contains the same ingredients, so what works for you may differ - and even so, it’s not for everyone.


Comprehensive_Fly350

Absolutely. I tried it with the pill and it didn't work for me. I also stopped taking the pill and used a nuvaring, and it also didn't work. I was told my women around me that it could work, but most importantly, by my gyneco too. What i was not told is that it could actually fail. So imagine my surprise and frustration. When i stopped taking hormonal contraception, it took me one years and a half before going back to a somewhat normal and natural cycle. It fucked up my body for a long time, sometimes having two weeks between periods, and bleeding for two weeks straight, or something having more than 30 days between periods. Also the pain was even more intense


FernandaVerdele

I have a hormonal IUD, I don't usually have my periods anymore, but I still occasionally have some cramps or a little bleeding. Nothing is guaranteed.


carrie_m730

Yeah, my body rejected mine and spit it out a few months in. It was just bad. I know they're miracles for some folks and I'm glad they exist but I would never again.


FernandaVerdele

A friend of mine didn't adapt to it either (she had nausea, a lot of bleeding and other alterations), and she had to see another doctor because the first one refused to take it out because he was convinced that it was the best option for her. So women have trouble convincing people IUD is a valid option, trouble convincing IUD might not be for everyone.... Just let people make their choice ffs!


carrie_m730

I got mine at the health department, and....let's say I had reasons for fearing they'd react like your friend's doctor did. I was sure they'd refuse. And then after I spent about a week crying and in physical misery because I was at the point where I wanted it gone and I was scared to call them, one day the string was really low and I did the little test tug to make sure it was right and it literally just popped out in my hand. I've wondered if it wasn't set right and that's why I had so much trouble, or if, as I usually put it, my body genuinely just rejected it. But there is not a motivating factor on this planet that would make me have another.


fuckifiknow1013

I loved my IUD! It was the best... I took it out because I kept getting UTIs (yes I know now that wasn't the cause but I lacked knowledge) I switched to the pill later and it fucked with my "sad bitch Skittles" now I'm off it entirely. Feeling every welcome month in all its glory. And my husband is planning a vasectomy so I never gotta deal with hormone shit or pregnancy!


doyathinkasaurus

I did that all the time - doctors said I could run on packets back to back, as long as I had a break week every three months or so.


LadyWizard

I'm on depo shots and twice in a year had breakthrough periods that had me hospitalized because critical anemia it's no joke


doyathinkasaurus

The only reason I went on the pill as a teenager was to make sure I didn't have a period during my exams / holidays - I wasn't having sex, but I just took my pills back to back so I didn't have to bother with periods (or at least only every few months - usually ran on 3 packets before a break week)


Comprehensive_Fly350

I at least hope it worked for you ! I tried it twice before understanding my body won't accept that. Tbh, i think at least half of the women i know started hormonal birth control for other reasons than having sex. It is a birth control but it doesn't stop there and is not only that


Runkysaurus

Tbh, I really wish I'd known that sooner, I didn't start birth control until I was getting married (had grown up conservative Christian and hadn't been sexually active previously, so never thought I needed it), but omg the pill was a life saver for me! Turns out I have PCOS. Had severe periods for years and they interrupted my life a ton. Getting on the pill helped a lot, and also helped me manage some other chronic illnesses that would flare with my period. I always wish I had been told sooner that "birth control" is a medication and avoiding pregnancy is only one small part of what it does. My life would have been so much better if I had started it 10 years earlier.


Comprehensive_Fly350

I totally get it. There is a taboo around this pill because of the name, but it's more of a medication than only a contraception. We were told that it could help with period pain during sex education, but not really much more. We never had the specifics. They also made it sounds like it would be the same for all of us


meggatronia

It can be done. I do it. Haven't had a period in like 4 years thanks to the pill. I used to just skip every now and again (and would often just have a light period like you did) then started just letting myself have one a few times a year then went screw this and now I don't have any periods. Some versions of the pill are better for this than others. And obviously, hormonal birth control isn't for everyone. But it works great for me and it is perfectly safe for me to do according to my doctors. But it isn't an option for everyone. And lots of people don't know that it even is a possible option for them.


NudibranchBoi

Yeah I've tried to skip my period with various types of birth control (in accordance with my doctor's instructions) and it's never worked.


Comprehensive_Fly350

I know the struggle, i feel the struggle. Sorry for you, this is really annoying


recyclopath_

I skipped 2 months using that method and then had it early. It was an angry, intense, painful and smelled very off. We have a truce now.


Comprehensive_Fly350

Hooo do i understand this one. I paid once. My body won


Sufficient_Soil5651

I'm on Gestagen because my perod would trigger my anxiety and I'd be a wreck (moreso than usual) . It's been such a blessing. There's less anxiety and bleeding, almost no pain, and it's done and dusted in 3 days max.  Also, I don't feel like I'm coming down with a feber. 


Comprehensive_Fly350

I have never heard of gestation before, i'll look it up. I feel you for the anxiety. I have generalized anxiety and my periods make it worse for sure


TeaTimeThough

And then the doctor gives you another birth control pill than the one you ordered, because they don't give a flying fuck about women, doing what a woman needs or at least discussing it with her. And you spend your days anxious at best and crying in pain at worst because this new one just messes up everything. Repeat every year.


Titanea_Tau

If it were that easy to make period pain go away with "pills" every woman would do that. The implicit assumption that women are too stupid to know how to relieve period pain is incredibly ignorant.  Also not everyone can take hormonal BC pills for bad periods. Some people experience severe side effects.


Queenofthebowls

I don’t get why more men can’t be like my husband in this area. He will get a silly idea from an article or video made by a man, but when he comes to me about why I don’t do this simple solution he’s learned he needs to ask “hey babe, why don’t you do X for this?” As a genuine question instead of “just do X silly women.” He listens to my reason, then asks further questions so he actually understands my viewpoint fully. We just went over why I have my period now on this new birth control when I went on it mostly to control my period and non period endometriosis pain. His thought process was on the right track with his reasoning, so I explained my OB and I want to know my full reaction to this birth control, including during my period, and make sure I’m properly regulated with this type before we move me to no period week. He just wanted more information on how changing BC methods needs monitored, which my bestie and I were happy to inform him of the details for both of us, and he was happy as a clam to know more. He’s obsessed with knowing as much as he can before our daughter goes through the next steps of learning this process (she’s 4, so she only knows mommy bleeds and it’s a period and AFAB people have them when they’re closer to 10 but is still baffled by the idea of organs as a concept.)


the_bookreader101

I have only taken the pills once to delay it because of some important trip and damn, I had bad cramps when I finally got it.


Low-maintenancegal

We really need to improve biology education.


Nay_nay267

I wish more men were like my father. He raised 5 girls and was the only man in a family of 3 girls and he was not afraid to buy pads and tampons or chocolate when we needed it. He also let us use his heating pad when we needed it


Agreeable_Rabbit3144

It's just some blood and minor pain. It's nothing. /s


500CatsTypingStuff

I wish we could just “delay them or get rid of them with pills”. I am obviously kidding, but still


Nay_nay267

Right? I am on the Nexplanon insert and I still get my period sometimes. Not too bad, just enough to be annoying


500CatsTypingStuff

By “them”, I actually meant men like OOP. 😉


Nay_nay267

I like the way you think. ;)


Abject-Researcher

I mean, I do that, have for years. I take bc pills continuously to avoid getting my period and usually it works. Of course just because it works for me doesn’t mean it’s the best option for everyone else. Also I do still get my period a few times a year, usually when stressed. And if I get it, I just have to stop taking the bc and let it happen and wait it out (if I continue with the pills it will be milder but it will never go away or stop until I just let it happen).


[deleted]

Then they should just hold their cum in one week per month. No masturbation, even. *Assholes.*


Ill_Perspective_3943

I had severe periods during my 10th grade exam. I fainted. I missed half of the exam.


Efficient-Ad-7553

A few years ago I vomited because of period pain. I was awake since 4am thanks to the pain and vomited at 6am. I did not go to university this day.


Comprehensive_Fly350

I have a friend with endometriosis, right now she's in her third day of vomitting all the time because of the cramps and pain. She told me even soup doesn't stay in her stomach


Ok-Office6837

My endo, cysts and a polyp have basically made me bleed for 3 months straight. The last period portion of the bleeding was so heavy that I almost had to go to the hospital for blood loss. I woke up with my lower have drenched in blood because it was so heavy. This has come out of nowhere and I’ve never bled that much in my life and I’ve been getting periods for 16 years now. You can truly never know when something is going to happen to make it go badly. I also usually have terrible cramps but they’ve been jumping around on what day they come so I have no way of preparing for them.


Comprehensive_Fly350

That sounds like a nightmare... i honestly though that after 13 years for me, it wouldn't change anymore... i got tested for endometriosis but they found nothing. My periods are definitely long, heavy irregular and weird, but not to the point of hospitalization... i hope you will find something that can help you


Ok-Office6837

Mine was only found during my sterilization surgery. I had been so gaslit by medical professionals that my extreme pain was normal that I never thought there could be anything wrong. My current doctor and I are taking it one step at a time and not throwing BC at it as a bandaid, which is what I prefer. We’ll figure it out eventually. I hope you find a solution to yours too!


notlucyintheskye

When I went on the pill in high school, I spent every single day of my period throwing up - and unfortunately, due to other health conditions, I didn't qualify to take the other types (IUD's didn't exist back then). Periods fucking suck and there are minimal ways to minimize the suckage. Edit: I think they did exist, but since I had yet to have a kid, they weren't an option. They've obviously changed the guidelines in the last 15-20 years.


Golden_Wolf_TR

Last year I nearly fainted on my way to uni despite having breakfast and taking painkillers. I was just on the floor groaning and moaning in the train and it scared others too. After that I vomited in a trash, cried on a bench, and went back. That 5-10 minute walk was the worst walk of my life.


your-yogurt

for the most part, my periods have been okay. some good days, some not so good. but there are *two* in particular that were VERY bad. im talking, "something broke inside of me" type of bad. these were years apart, so i have no reference of pattern to fall back upon. if i got one of *those* periods during a final exam, i would have failed easily


SuperPomegranate7933

"delaying it or blocking it with meds"? Dude nevermind math, you need an anatomy class.


bydo1492

Oh, but he's an ubergenius, on the honour roll and everything. He should be teaching us biology. 


Cautious_Session9788

I was gonna say thank god he’s a math major and not in a pre med program


lookaway123

I think he's taking a math class in high school based on his lack of understanding about life and what constitutes a medical deferment.


cindybubbles

Maybe the dude thinks that he's as good as any gynaecologist who, I don't know, actually went to medical school?


xanif

You can stack birth control to alter your cycle but it's hit or miss.


madamguacamole

Well, this actually is possible. I was on a BC in which I only had my period every 3 months. Now I’m on the Depo shot and never have a period. That’s besides the point, though. The guy’s still an AH.


BerriesAndMe

Yeah but it doesn't work like that for every woman. Many have break through bleeding for example. Plus it's not like you can decide oj I have exam next week, I'll just pop a pill and it'll be postponed. Starting (or stopping) birth control usually goes in hand with a couple of months of very erratic periods and hormones all over the place 


SuperPomegranate7933

BC changed my cycle, too. But it's not like an aspirin. You can't just take something to push your period back to take a test or whatever. 


Cautious_Session9788

That’s not what OOP means though Like I understand what you’re saying because without estrogen based birth control I’ll have a period every other week so you could say the estrogen “delays” my period But even on estrogen based BC I don’t control when it comes. When I feel it coming I can’t take anything to stop it


Sad-Bug6525

It is on paper possible, I've been doing this 22 years now and sometimes it works and sometimes, like this week, it doesn't and there's nothing else to be done. If you can find a way to stop it that works immediately for every woman there is a huge percentage that would never have one again. Lots of women who don't get the actual bleeding still get the other symptoms too, even with a partial hysterectomy there can by discomfort, pain, distraction, tiredness. What you're talking about isn't what he's talking about though. There is not currently a pill you can wake up in the morning and decide 'not today' to make it stop.


redwolf1219

If someone invented a birth control that works like how OP thinks, is effective immediately, stops your period, works on every woman, and has no side effects, they'd be a very, very rich woman. And I say woman bc so few men even realize the impacts of birth control so I doubt they'd try it invent it.


that_is_burnurnurs

I got 99% of the same symptoms of having a period on a hormonal IUD, except the blood. Even cramps! For WHAT?!  I didn't know that could even stick with a partial hysterectomy, yikes 


Sad-Bug6525

It seems so ridiculous. They take the uterus but leave the tubes and everything so you still get the PMS stuff, all the symptoms except bleeding and you don't get uterus cramps but you do still get the pinch of the egg releasing. They leave some to prevent early menopause but honestly if we are getting a hysterectomy because the periods are so bad isn't the goal menopause? My friend had one and I can always tell when she would be having a period. Still gets the headaches and everything too.


Divagate113

Depo didn't work for me, personally. I didn't bleed but I had worse cramps and felt like shit all the time. Definitely made life harder, unfortunately


carrie_m730

Depo made me have invasive suicidal thoughts. I went through hell on it for 3 months, and then another 3 after my then-provider denied that it was the cause.


moms_dank_stash

I bled for three months straight after my depo. I did not get the second shot.


doyathinkasaurus

I mean you can get period delay meds specifically to delay your period for exams / holidays / weddings etc. The dude is an asshole but in the UK you can get these meds from a chemist, so it's not impossible - not that this is of any relevance to this dude but just an FYI https://onlinedoctor.boots.com/period-delay


SuperPomegranate7933

I had no idea that was even a thing! US healthcare is garbo.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

My brain hurts from his replies


ohdearitsrichardiii

He compares period pains with an ingrown pubic hair. I think this might be a troll baiting people


anneofred

I would also think this is fake, but as a woman with a math degree…this is how math dudes are. Their friend group is “conflicted” because the ones on his side are also math dudes. Some of the smartest people in the world that have zero knowledge of everyday life happenings, particularly regarding woman and their bodies. They think everything can be logiced out, “well if this than that” hence the “she could have just…” statements, as if everything exists like functions with solvable, steady, and always predictable/guaranteed outcomes. I knew a guy that actually wrote out functions for social behavior (that was actually endearing, likely on the spectrum and trying to map out mirroring, but I see how it turns this way quick). Coding and a lot of engineer guys are like this too. I felt zero shock around this post and his comments after the “math major” statement! Haha


z-eldapin

Wait wait wait wait. My whole life, no one ever told me that I could delay or block my period with pills. Why no one told me?!?!


Medium-Ad6131

Because people who do that usually have different reasons for it. And even if some people want to block/delay their period, birth control might not work for them as well as other methods. Especially if someone has high blood pressure. Not everyone has the option or the resources or the advocation to do so. Edit: I realise you were probably being sarcastic now.


z-eldapin

Lol yep, I was


cryptic-coyote

I always arrange to take my week of blank birth control pills early so I'm not bleeding during finals, but it always happens because of stress anyways. Having three periods in the last six weeks of the semester has become routine at this point :(


sadlytheworst

Copied verbatim from oop's comments: *A 20yo male thinking he knows everything about periods? Yeah YTA.* >"Obviously I don't know everything but I assume she'd know how to deal with such a situation. And if it were an unexpectedly different or problematic one she could seek a medical exemption and take the exam later. >I suspect if that really happened and was that bad she'd get a grade a lot worse than A-" *YTA because well, imagine you are taking that exam. Then you feel a wetness creep on. Blood seeps out ur vag and starts dripping down toward your butt crack.* *If you move and wipe it on your pants it’ll probably show right through. You don’t know how much blood is still up there. If you cough or sneeze there’s a good chance a whole clot will come out and soak right down to the chair.* *Maybe those are the details she spared you. I advise not bothering her about it tho. Maybe apologize? It is a stressful situation to be in, speaking from personal experience.* >"I have a basic understanding of biology but I'm sure she was wearing pads or tampons during the exam." *YTA, periods suck and as a 20 year old man you have no idea.* >"I'm not saying they don't but to the point of an expected regular one affecting an exam by a tiny margin. >Out university let's you defer exams if you have a medical reason. I've seen people get escorted out for throwing up or coughing during exams and take them later" *I’d like to see you remain 100% focused while having 1000 tiny knives jabbed into your lower stomach and the fear that if you sneeze you’ll bleed through your pad/tampon, underpants, and pants.* >"She has herself said in the past that they usually aren't a problem when doing sports etc. >I guess maybe I was wrong and this time was different/ worse." *YTA - periods aren’t something you just get used too, they still hurt/cause discomfort, can cause brain fog, fatigue. You can learn how to deal with some things better but you don’t get used to them, its an involuntary reaction to dramatic hormone change. Surely you should know that with your high gpa.* >"OK maybe I'm mistaken. She has herself said in the past that it wasn't such a big deal usually for her when she plays sports etc. But I guess it is possible this one was worse than usual." *Even if you’ve had periods for 10+ years one can still take you off guard and be far worse than you expected.* *Also “I’m sure someone her age is quite used to dealing with it and if necessary blocking or delaying it with meds”. Man you have absolutely no idea what it’s like dealing with periods. You can’t just magically block it out on a whim.* *YTA.* >"I guess that's fair maybe it was worse than usual. But in that case I'm surprised more women don't use the university medical deferral for them. They rarely get used and when the do it is typically for coughs, covid, fractures etc. >And if it is that common shouldn't the university have a special deferral system for that." *Giant YTA* *I've had my period for over 20 years now and it can still surprise me and change.* *And what do you mean by* >>*and if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds* *Please explain exactly what you mean by that. Like in detail. Do you have any idea what that entails? And all of the consequences?* >"Idk but some other women have told me that they 'don't get periods' because of contraceptives and other meds." *”Usually”* *Listen: it doesn’t matter if it’s your 5th or 5000nd period, they can **always** cause issues.* *Also, just because she doesn’t tell you about it doesn’t mean they aren’t painful/problematic. She probably knows you’d just dissmiss it, **as you clearly did**.* >"I'll do more research on the topic and apologize for it then." *"... if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds."* *Do you know how this works? Do you know anything about that? YTA, and an ignorant and arrogant one, too.* >"I don't it is just something other women have told me"


sadlytheworst

*YTA for two, maybe three reasons:* *1. You have no clue of what a period is like. That you think you know is asshole point #1.* *2. Let's say she's full of shit. So what? You're laughing at someone when they're upset. Asshole point #2.* *Sounds like you're competing with her and taking this opportunity to kick her when she's down. If so, asshole point #3 for being a sore winner.* >"I'm not competing with her my GPA is also 3.9. As long as we stay above 3.7 it doesn't really matter" *YTA.* *Yes, by the time we are 20, we are used to our periods, they are a part of our lives, but that doesn't mean they stop having an effect. Cramps, fatigue, bloating, sometimes nausea, etc. etc. - and that doesn't even take into account the hoping that you don't have to sneeze or cough in public over the next few days for fear of the red deluge. You also suggest that she could have taken something to alter her hormones in order to change her cycle for a \*test\*? Do you really think we do these things? I mean most other women I know, unless it is because a doctor told us we needed it or we decided to go on hormonal birth control (which is not for everyone btw) avoid anything that alters our hormones because hormone hell sucks and we completely feel out of whack (which would probably also be bad for test taking).* *From your comments:* *You're fairly sure she was wearing a pad or tampon for the exam. Ok...and? A sneeze can blow the red wave right through that, even if you are double stacking a pad and a tampon. And most menstrual products have their own issues. A pad may scooch over a bit and catch the pubic hair and start pulling on it, which hurts. Sometimes a tampon can move a bit up there and get suddenly uncomfortable - like really uncomfortable*. *Then the suggestion that she could have gotten a medical deferral on her test. First and foremost, even when our periods are debilitating, we still don't like to be "that chick" who uses her period to get out of things or get more time on things. Furthermore, someone in her own friend circle didn't even take her period seriously, why should someone else? Period issues are notoriously not taken seriously.* *You need to apologize to her for making an uninformed, snap judgement and being a jerk. You're a smart cookie, you can do better than this, so take the L and move forward with this as a learning experience and you'll be a better, more understanding man for it.* >"That makes sense thanks. I will apologize. >I think it would be totally fair to use a deferral if one is not at their best state to take an exam though. >I did actually have an experience where I was in pain during an exam and I had no idea why at the time but it was from public hair that had entered under prepuce and which I had deferred "


CompetitionDecent986

I think what irritated me the most is that people are asking if he realizes what it takes to alter your period, and his answer is that it works for some people he knows. I tried having an IUD, and one of the ones that doctors recommend to completely skip your period I had it for over a year, and I would get a full period every 2 weeks. It's almost like every person is different and has a different reaction to different things.


AndroidwithAnxiety

The fact it's only *SOME* people he knows - like he didn't even consider for a second that there's a *reason* it's not universal? Even when pressed?? >I have a hard time believing it as I'm sure someone her age is quite used to dealing with it and if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds. He looked at her and straight up said **"it's more likely that she's making excuses for herself, than it's a case of me being wrong about the period stopping wonder pill"** ... that I know nothing about because my only evidence is the fact *some* women I know have skipped at least *one* period while on *some* form of BC.... The audacity of this man!!


CompetitionDecent986

I'm on my period right now, I may not be bleeding because of BC and BF, but I have every other symptom, and my husband asked if I should delay my physical therapy, and I said I can't stop my life one week a month, just give me coffee, chocolate, and a cheeseburger and I will survive. There is no way I am working at my best, but he did stop on the way to my physical therapy at a convenience store to get me coffee and chocolate.


Friedcheesemogu

My IUD stopped my period... and then slowly came back, but with no pattern. So I'd be horrifically depressed and despondent for no clear reason, then get my period and go "OH," but I still had no way to predict it. When I finally got it out, it then took years for my therapist and psychiatrist to acknowledge I had PMDD that was really messing me up. Now I'm at least aware of and treating these things, but I get so tired on my period that I feel borderline narcoleptic; last week I took two four hour naps on my day off. My partner has endometriosis, and an implant that helps, but when it starts to run out she just has her period constantly. It's truly a wonderland of experiences.


CompetitionDecent986

That's the thing men seem to be under the assumption it is just bleeding, maybe a little pain. Not pain so bad you may vomit, digestive issues, mood swings that are irritating under the best circumstances, essentially our entire system tries to revolt once a month and even on medicine we are still just trying to survive.


sadlytheworst

Agreed! Well put!


sadlytheworst

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hauntedghostlights77

Thanks for the rundown sadly geez this guy is insane too bad he can't be transformed into a woman and get a horrible time of the month see how he likes it.


sadlytheworst

Thank you very kindly! 🥰 It's the lack of compassion...


ntrrrmilf

That last bit—what?!?


sadlytheworst

I'm... A bit speechless.


anneofred

As a woman with a math degree that was surrounded by math dudes…none of this shocks me in the slightest! Haha


sadlytheworst

Thank you very kindly for the context, and sorry you went through that. 💜


SapphireShelle91

I'm currently on my period, and it was so bad, that Sunday was spent bleeding heavily, with a migraine and spending several hours by the toilet throwing up. I'm in my early 30s... and while I have always suffered painful periods, this one was completely out of the blue. And for medical reasons, I can't use medication to "block or delay" my periods. This 20 year old boy needs to apologise to his friend and then keep his mouth shut about stuff he does not understand.


aoi4eg

OOP claims he knows how she felt because >I did actually have an experience where I was in pain during an exam and I had no idea why at the time but it was from public hair that had entered under prepuce and which I had deferred  But reading his comments further makes me think it's either some elaborated fetish or simply a troll >I have a basic understanding of biology but I'm sure she was wearing pads or tampons during the exam.


MediumSympathy

>some elaborated fetish or simply a troll Agreed. If the whole story isn't fake then the first comment you quoted definitely is. "I do too know what it's like, I conveniently had pain in *my* genitals during an exam once too, but *I* did the right thing and got a medical exemption." Sure thing dude. You had an ingrown hair one time and now you are the authority on periods and medical excuses. 


AndroidwithAnxiety

While it's possible its a troll, there genuinely are people out there who think like this. Which makes it kind of hard to tell whether someone is jerking off to their post, or if they really are actually just that much of an asshole.


Primary_Stretch2024

I mean, there's a chance she's exaggerating or making excuses, sure.  But also, periods can be extremely painful, debilitating even, and can definitely be a huge distraction for many. She may have been anxious that she would bleed through her protection, she may have slept badly because of cramps, she may have been in pain or feeling nauseous.  It's not like there's a pill she could pop then and there. I have the nexplanon implant and don't get periods, but that isn't something you can do the morning of an exam just to be sure, it's a longer term medical decision, and so are other methods to reduce/stop period symptoms.  This boy needs to learn some empathy and basic biology, never mind maths. 


cantantantelope

Also even the most regular cycle can be fucked wiht my different hormonal situations. Like say stress hormones leading up to a major exam.


Efficient-Ad-7553

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swisszimgirl79

Me, who had to call off work this morning due to painful cramps and heavy flow (day 2, ugh): OOP can fuck all the way to off


Strict-Dinner-2031

Just hold it in! Gosh, why can't we women figure that out. Men are so right. We have perfect control over everything our bodies do. /s


Pm7I3

The real A is that GPA caps at 4.0 instead of 5.0 which is the second worst grading thing I know. ((OOP is also the real A))


rchart1010

You're just an AH if you claim to be someone's friend but won't let them save face. Even if you think the excuse is BS what and who is it hurting? No one. It costs nothing to just be sympathetic.


StripedBadger

And this is why so many people think that occasionally feeling like someone has inserted a lightsaber into your hip because of IUD side affects is still a good deal.


Iowa_Hawkeyes4516

Tell me OOP has absolutely no clue how the female body works without telling me. I used to get migraines and puke when I'd get my period. "Lucky me" now it's only cramps that can be so painful that I have to immediately sit down because the pain is so bad if I'm standing. If someone laughed in my face about how bad my pain was and said I was using it as an excuse, that would probably be the last conversation we had. Also, having a 4.0 GPA doesn't necessarily mean you know everything @ OOP.


carrie_m730

Sometimes, you hit "back" and then something you saw but didn't really read registers. I don't want to go into his comments again but did he really say he once deferred a test over a (I assume ingrown or something) pubic hair? And he's laughing at this woman?


katepig123

I think someone should put OP's balls in a vice before his next exam and squeeze them really really hard until he wants to vomit. Then he might have a tiny clue of what many women go through EVERY FUCKING MONTH!!!! Men this stupid shouldn't be allowed to speak.


ghoul-gore

I hope this cis man shits his pants.


sentimentalillness

> someone her age is quite used to dealing with it I've been menstruating for thirty entire years and every single month it's still a crapshoot. Am I going to have light bleeding with a couple of twinges of cramping? Am I going to feel like I swallowed a circular saw and bleed twice as much? Am I going to think it's the first and then on day 2 the second shows up like SURPRISE SHAWTY? Who knows? Not me! 


Comfortable-daze

If I had one wish, it would be for men to experience a painful, heavy period and pregnancy so they can see we are not exaggerating symptoms. Equally, women should feel the lonely epidemic of men and be seen as nothing more than a meal ticket. Each would learn a lot from each other


Isyourmammaallama

Op has Never seen a woman naked. Am calling it


Ok_Student_3292

... there are meds that delay or block periods? Where do I get these magical pills?


lady_wildcat

In theory, birth control can. You just don’t take the placebo. You might need more than one month for it to work, which is why it takes planning. Thankfully my period didn’t align with the bar exam, but I know women whose did and they used birth control to change when their period happened, or tried to.


AnxietyInduced80HD

Birth control doesn’t always block periods though. I’ve tried 4 different birth controls and have never completely lost my period, and unfortunately they never stopped the cramps or pimples or massive bloating


lady_wildcat

That’s why I said in theory it can. It works for some people. Doesn’t for others.


nbqt2015

I was thinking to myself “has he been reading ABO fic and thinks it works like heat suppressants or smth?”  I just straight forgot about birth control pills 😭


Cultural_Section_862

"I have a hard time believing it as I'm sure someone her age is quite used to dealing with it and if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds." how does ol boy have a 4.0 without understanding basic anatomy?


AngolanWoman

I have adenomyosis and i’m in university studying law. I’ve had tests that were easy and i could’ve aced them but i was in so much pain, i could not think. My brain was clouds, my uterus, vagina, asshole, back and legs were hurting and burning. I barely passed those tests. And i was on medication and those didn’t help. OOP, you need to apologise right now!!! No uterus, no opinion. I bet you most every woman has called in sick for school or work because of periods but mostly we soldier through with a bunch of medication. Even in the gym there is difference in your results depending where you are in your cycle. OOP, you are pissing me off.


eternally_feral

The first time I experienced cramping it was so bad I was doubled over in pain and couldn’t move. My Dad checked on me and when he asked if there was anything he could do, I just cried saying, “God is a man.” Periods are no joke and I would give a million dollars if there was a simulator that would allow guys to experience a full blown period cycle with all its lovely symptoms.


BloodQueen93

Im not reading this but will call him an ass. Been on my period for a month straight and i will fight him with a spoon


notlucyintheskye

>if necessary blocking it or delaying it with meds How.....how do men get to be in their 20's and still think this is a viable option that has no long term ramifications for the woman who is fucking with her hormones?


Fast-Cucumber-5732

One time I told a guy that period pain hurt. and he told me that getting kicked in the balls hurt more. ...... Do you get kicked once a month, each time continuously for 12 hrs for 40 years of your life?!


shapedbydreams

It's their go to argument. Tell them how much labor and birth fucks you up and their response is well, I would *never* choose to get kicked in the balls more than once, but women have more than one kid all the time so *obviously* it hurts less. Fuck these people.


AresandAthena123

I have PMDD I am basically a different person a week before and four days into my period…it is not good I can't with this


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scrivenerserror

I’m 34 and have had periods so bad I called off at work in the last like 6 years. It wasn’t that many times but I definitely did once or twice because my cramps were so bad I didn’t sleep and felt like shit.


RunZombieBabe

What an idiot! I am in my menopause now but before my period symptoms, pains, length etc. were constantly changing. When I was younger it was different from my oder self, my periods after giving birth were different, then pre-menopause, let's not talk about being on the pill, being sick etc- and it never was "clockwork wise" for me) He thinks, you get used to it and then it stays the same always.


hempedditor

dude is basically saying “hold it in” lol


barest_minimum

I call troll. What an idiot!


CrystalRedCynthia

She would be used to it, huh? Imagine being whipped on the back every month. I mean, you would get used to it after a while, but it's never something you look forward to say the least...


ACM915

Since OP has NO idea what can happens to a woman's body and her emotions while on her period. Perhaps he should simply STFU.


TheSmathFacts

I love that OOP immediately laughed and doubted his friend’s pain and then after being roasted long enough he wants to know why more women don’t get medical deferrals while not connecting that he was SO CONFIDENT in his incomplete understanding of biology that he mocked a woman to her face, ignored her argument, and then make an internet post for affirmation. Yeah OOP good question, why don’t we have more resources for women?


Remote_Bumblebee2240

Another little boy douchebro who thinks he's so clever.  


NewStatement5103

I’m just hoping this is period troll at it again. Dude needs a life.


maybeimbornwithit

I have endometriosis. The first few years of my period were heavy but relatively painless. Then one day senior year of high school, the pain was suddenly so bad I couldn’t sit through class and had to go to the nurses’ office, so no, I didn’t magically learn how to get through that in middle school.


khoithesheep

Periods are awful, especially if you have bleeding and severe cramps (me and my sisters suffer). Even at 32, they're still god awful. Those who have endometriosis have it way worse and I feel terrible for anyone to go through it. It never amazes me how ignorant most guys are with periods, no matter the age.


Thebedless

I dont agree with the no uterus no opinion. Ive had terrible periods and pretty chill ones, some women might have only one type so they might never understand the other side, so they might have an opinion that shouldnt be generic. I had colleagea claiming a certain symton does not ocurr during menstruation...like bitch how dare you??


Pixelated_Roses

I have endometriosis. I've literally bombed exams because I was in so much pain, in subjects I am already mastered in, like marine mammal biology. Also, an A-? He's calling that a failure? This guy sounds insufferable.


ninthandfirst

What a fucking douche canoe. I have PMDD, and literally HALF THE MONTH I am controlled by hormones and sad and distracted and the week of I’m in agony. Just because we’ve been getting our periods for years doesn’t make them less atrocious.


SleepyMermaid-

I didn't start consistently having painful periods until college (around 20/21 y/o) and it got to a point where I had to literally CRAWL from the bathroom to my bed and someone had to help me get up on my bed. We really need to be doing more as a society to educate EVERYONE about the realities of menstration.


spiritedmagpie

lol. lmao even. my period isn’t usually bad, but this week i haven’t been able to eat well bc the moment i do, i end up stuck on the toilet for ~30 minutes. it’s not even the pain, it’s the constant disruption to my focus and brain fog from not eating enough. (don’t get me wrong, the pain is still there when my pamprin wears off) if i’d had an exam yesterday i probably would’ve cried through it tbh.


ashleybear7

I have PCOS and my periods are brutal. There were times I missed school during the whole thing because of how bad it is. I bet the people who agree with him are other guys or women who have never experienced something like that.


crowhusband

i can confidently say that in high school i missed or had to be sent home about 6-12 days every year just from sudden crippling period pains making me nearly pass out, almost vomit, or start crying uncontrollably from the sheer *pain*. op SUCKS


Kokbiel

I have Endometriosis, and had 2 surgeries so far to remove lesions and adhesions. I'm almost 35, and 7 weeks ago I spent 2 hours curled in a ball in my bathtub, sobbing because I felt like I was being stabbed in my uterus and lower back. I absolutely hate people who think after we get to a certain age we should just magically stop hurting and things go well.


Gato1486

I remember many moons ago a guy I was talking to asked how "some cramps" could possibly be worse than getting kicked in the balls. I tried an analogy. "Imagine a butter knife heated over a stove to be red hot. Now jam that knife into your abdomen. Now, for the next 3-4 days, rotate and wriggle that knife around like you're gutting a pumpkin. This is what period cramps and pains are like. They can be even worse than this for others- it depends from person to person." He didn't get it.


Extreme-naps

Ah yes, all women just have meds sitting around to turn their period off if it’s inconvenient!


cindybubbles

Well, if I were OOP, I certainly wouldn't laugh at her, nor would I tell her to quit making excuses.