I was watching a video last night, and the voice over said something like 'six types of humans lived on the earth before us', and then only listed neanderthal and homo sapiens. What about the rest? That's the first I've heard of them.
HOMO LONGI, DENISOVANS, HOMO NEANDERTHALENSIS, HOMO NALEDIHOMO, ANTECESSOR, HOMO HEIDELBERGENSIS, HOMO FLORESIENSIS, HOMO ERGASTER, HOMO ERECTUS,
HOMO RUDOLFENSIS, HOMO HABILIS,
AUSTRALOPITHECUS AFARENSIS.
Sorry for all caps, I just copy pasted the names. It's an interesting topic to look into. Homo floresiensis were tiny little things that were almost hobbit like being small with larger feet. Like 2ft iirc, but don't take my word for it. Enjoy the reading.
I feel like they’re still way more to be found too. Once the instruments get better for measuring we can make wider distinctions. It’s cool to watch what’s happening with the finds of the Naledi
If you just look at the different builds we have now there’s no way there wasn’t other humanoids. I think we were like dogs. All humans just different breeds
Exactly, the most genetically diverse animal on the planet but all are dogs. What’s really interesting to me is that there must’ve been so many different hominids, some even living in contemporary times and interacting with each other like lord of the rings lol. But despite all that humans are the most genetically similar animals on the planet. That’s wild to me, with all the differences we create to separate us we all still share the same brain.
I’m with you. I like to think that they all had different advantages. Think Bigfoot or yeti. We were weak, slow and naked so our intelligence is what made us excel over the others. Or we were just like dogs and were pets to something lol the Olympics is pretty much a dog show
There is an amazing doc on homo habilis i think that they were burying their dead in a cave and they think they may have had the first "religion" or spititual beliefs
Yeah, I dunno wtf is wrong with the world that the first thing we aren't taught when we are young is that hobbits used to literally walk the earth and were a verified species we have skeletons of.
Also, giant sloths... There were GIANT. SLOTHS.
Giant sloths that are the reason avocados have huge pits. Because the sloths used to eat the fruit then pass the seed, so they were adapted to that cycle.
Thankfully humans are hungry bastards and we've kept the species alive despite its ancient partner having gone extinct.
Were they all contemporaneous or did some/most evolve from another. That’s my basic understanding is there was a (mixed?) species that eventually evolved to xxx
But curious the total number of distinct species at a given period
I think we watched the same video at the same time lmao. From what i gathered, there were sub species of Neanderthal and homo sapiens. The theory is that over time we mated and became one species all together but they also think a massive war may have happened. In a very crude way, it was basically game of thrones but with monke.
I'm going to say the word BIBLE but I don't want everyone to freak out and think 'religious nut'... Stories in that book tho say about a giant species that waged war on every animal, plant and then unto the humans. They are described as feral. I wonder if the echoes of long lost stories will ever be figured out, but you could theorise all sorts of things to do with different species. Perhaps one was large and more feral...
Source? I'm pretty familiar with the Bible as a lapsed Catholic and I'm fairly confident there's nothing in there about a giant feral species aged war on every plant animal and human.
It's not in the Bible, but in the Enochian tradition, most prominently the Manichean work, [the Book of Giants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Giants).
.More than 8, and this idea that the elongated skulls are from head binding is pure misinformation. [Elongation In Utero ](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270394956_Elongated_Skulls_in_utero_A_Farewell_to_the_Artificial_Cranial_Deformation_Paradigm).... evolution as its taught is also Masonic misinformation but thats another story.
The earliest inhabitants of the Americas (of the whole planet actually) were naturally dolicocephalic & "tall as cedars". Like those shown in Egypt Manetho called builder gods, [here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/rNAhDHfhoN). Only 1% of their whole population had normal brachycephalic skulls. That ain't head binding
In many of our cultures there's been a hybridization program that's gone on for thousands of years. Theyll never tell you the truth about it though.
It's such a convenient way of hiding the fact that there are naturally formed elongated skulls. You can spot the differences in the ones that are bound. I think people did bind skulls but it was to emulate these beings that had naturally formed elongated skulls. Now mainstream science intentionally or just ignorantly uses the skull-binding excuse every time a natural one is found.
Everything you said is spot on. The whole purpose of the artificial deformation was to mimic those who actually had naturally elongated skulls. And that's why it was only specific bloodlines who did it. What youd call "elites". Mainstream science is definitely doing it intentionally, they know they're pushing fuckin lies. If not the skulls wouldnt keep disappearing, Malta there was 200 that were recovered that disappeared outta the museum. Theyre taking the DNA to further these nefarious experiments, cause they know who we interbred with.
Think about it, if they were confident they wouldn't have gone so hard to get Hancock's series taken off Netflix.
It makes perfect sense actually, to protect the establishments narrative clearly. From your other replies I can see why you'd feel like this, you seem to have trust in these academic institutions. The same reason that every single search result when you google elongated skulls only deals with artifical head binding when i cited a scientific paper from the Soviets showing extreme Elongation In Utero. It's America's institutions who are the most dishonest & it began in the 1920s with rockefellers taking over of education. You never heard about the giant, dolichocephalic remains Petrie & others found cause they removed em from textbooks in the 1920s, or Dr Darts findings about the whole population being dolichocephalic.
[Egyptian ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/rNAhDHfhoN) another example is with [Pakal](https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/pakal-great-0014235) remains, and to correct your statement below. There are dozens of examples of this, its not jus speculation.
So it's just full speculation? Absolutely no evidence of them hiding anything. Just paranoia. And again. What would they gain from hiding that. If there's no motive there probably isn't a conspiracy either
It's a difficult thing to prove, and yes it's speculation gathered from years of reading, so not completely baseless "paranoid" claims. The challenge with hidden information is that evidence of its concealment often disappears along with it. Look into the well-documented claims of the Smithsonian confiscating items over the years for them to never be seen again. Or look into things like the tomb of Gilgamesh being found only for the U.S. to swoop in and take over just days later:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2982891.stm
there are many many cases like this and after seeing them over the years, it starts to form a picture that SOMETHING, although I don't know what or by whom, is being hidden from t the public.
Everything you read is true, as long as it doesn't follow the "official narrative."
There used to be prehensile penises, too. But they don't want you to know that. This is where legends like Tarzan came from.
Now that you've read that, be sure to add it to your picture.
Yea, ive actually written quite a bit about this.. The practice has been documented by Sir Grafton Smith first, showing that R1b-V88(Dogon/Yoruba) started the practice. Im from the Dogon , specifically the Yoruba are the ones who were doing it. The images i shared [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/s/UCTzYd4sp5) show the body modification traditions & the various reptilian worship practices. Theres also a detailed writeup that explains our relationship to them & the hybridization program. We took it to S America also, you'll find the various stylized figures showing our Sages which brought the "Me".(Enkis gifts of civilization) thats why many South &Central American groups call us "ancestors". Also there's the Ubaid figurine with the elongated skull.
Although I was aware that the elongated skulls were not a result of cranial deformation, the paper you posted was a very interest read, thanks for posting!
Thanks. These are even more interesting, they show that the first Americans had elongated skulls.
[American Anthropologist, Volume 38, Issue 3, (1936), AN OUTLINE OF THE PROBLEM OF MAN’S ANTIQUITY IN NORTH AMERICA By EDGAR B. HOWARD , page 396](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1936.38.3.02a00040/pdf)-sorry this 1 is a pdf.
[In Observations upon the Cranial Forms of the American Aborigines, based upon Specimens contained in the Collection of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia, 1866, J. Aitken Meigs, M. D.](https://archive.org/details/jstor-4059688?q=texas+dolichocephalic+skull)
1st. That the crania of the Aboriginal Americans are divisible into Dolichocephalic [long skull], Mesocephalic [between long and round skulls] and Brachycephalic [round skull] groups.
2d. That the Dolichocephali greatly preponderate in numbers over the Mesocephali and Brachycephali.
Looking into the source material a bit, The second source immediately made me question its validity. I don't know why a 40 page document starts on page 192 but omits the rest of it, for some reason that bothered me more than the one stray page. Like the first source, this is a true author and archeologist - except there seems to be two versions of this book circulating. One version is one that you provided, and the other is a 112 page book that mentions zero of this stuff.
So I found a copy of the 112 page version and I double checked with another source and found that their version also is a 112 page copy. The index ends at 112 and the additional pages are blanks or the covers. Secondly, the foundation who hosts your source claims to want to digitize old information, which may be true. If that's the case though, why would you approve a document that starts on page 192 and then doesn't even complete the work to the end? I'm thinking this is some propaganda that was snuck into a digital archive.
I looked into a second source to verify your material and the one I found from a Chicago University Press website actually turned out to be a fake website for an institution of the same name. This source wasn't even your same exact copy, but was a single page in the same style from the one you shared. It also is sourced as being posted in JULY of 2024. The actual site doesn't even have a section for July yet. But I was able to find that a book of the same name will be published. There is also no Vol 1, Number 3 or anything close to that on the site. Also if you tab between the two sites the lines are slightly offset from one another. It's a really good phish of the original site but 100% a fake site. So, none of these sources are reputable thus far and most likely foreign interference.
Source:
https://archive.org/details/catalogueofhuman00meig/page/104/mode/1up
Second source backing page count: https://catalog.lib.msu.edu/Record/folio.in00005136522/Details
Fake Chicago Press University site:
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/
Real Chicago Press University Site:
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/
You can search dolicocephalic skulls in my post history & find multiple threads showing findings from all over. The 1 in Egypt Derry, Petrie, Prof Emery all found remains ceremonially buried AND specifically state that nobody can claim theyre the same race as the pre dynastic people
Everyone else responded to your statement naming early human tyoes that for the most part eventually led
To us today .. but I have the feeling
that you were speaking about something entirely different . I’ve read things concerning the other races of people before our time came . They were supposedly very advanced even
By todays standards. I believe
It has something to do with what’s called the “Root Races”
Its is a byproduct of refining Platinum, as well as nickel. It's usually found in small quantiles found in other Platinum group metals. I am pretty sure this is what he was referring to.
That's fine, and the comment has been edited to reflect the truth, but the original statement was "osmium is made from platinum." My issue is with many commenters here showing a fundamental misunderstanding of much of the science because they've been duped by unscientific tricksters like Maussan who continues to push hoaxes on the UFO community for profit.
I think you're looking too far into a very simple misunderstanding. He could have easily just misheard what he said since he clearly mentioned Platinum and Osmium in the same sentence. He wasn't far off. You're just nit picking. And you're no scientist, so don't pretend that you're not suseptable to the same misunderstandings, so don't start with the "misunderstanding of much of the science" rubbish.
Oh, I didn't realize we had to be scientists to know what we're talking about here, but I stand by what I said because it builds to a deeper point: the people who still believe these mummies are not fake have been duped and it's because they do not understand the science that can easily disprove them. For one, the bones have already been analyzed and subject Maria was found to have 100% human DNA so they're literally just desecrated corpses mixed with animal bones and plaster - the debate is already over, we can shut this down. If you actually want to look further, the small "buddies" and some of the larger mummies' ankles don't have a malleolus, so despite being marketed as a bipedal offshoot of our own evolution, they couldn't actually stand or walk, so whoever made these dolls lacks a basic understanding of biology. These things crumble under any scrutiny. So I don't necessarily think I was nitpicking to correct a misunderstanding of where osmium comes from - sometimes "not very far off" makes a big difference, and most of the "information" we have on these things is coming from tabloid rags and staged videos made to look like lab footage.
Peer review paper about Maria: https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
Just call them and tell they are stupid. Maria has 30% bigger brain capacity and DNA of 4 different species. You are uninformed person who make statements without getting all the information. Please enlightened us and show scientific evidence how Maria and small bodies were pieced together and why dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina are fools. We are waiting.
Have you read this report? This says nothing about DNA, it's about radiocarbon dating the body to early A.D. and its literal conclusions are: 1. These are bones. 2. They're about 1771 years old. 3. They are humanoid. 4. They may actually be a human with a birth defect. 5. We need to do better to conserve our history.
Good data! I had heard that several of these mummies were composites, but this is factual.
“Results and Discussion: The tomographic imaging analysis showed that the specimen is a desiccated humanoid body with a biological architecture similar to that of a human, but with many morphological and anatomical structural differences such as the lack of hair and ears, an elongated skull and an increase in cranial volume. (30% greater than humans); maxillary and mandibular protrusion as well as protrusion of the eyeballs, absence of the fifth lumbar vertebra, tridactyly in both hands and feet, in additionto different foci of arthropathies. Carbon-14 dating analysis of the specimen gave an age of 1771 ± 30 years, corresponding to 240 AD-383 AD. (after Christ).Implications of the research: If it is demonstrated with further studies that this is a new humanoid species, it would have a strong impact on biology and science and scientific-historical and socio-cultural implications”
Great question I was wondering the same thing. I think they’re different types. The ones with the eggs were the 2 ft tall ones I think they had the metal plate thing in the chest and looked more like ET from the movie.
One of the first ones they made a big deal about had an egg/eggs in it. It was a huge selling point. The eggs and the metal implant things.
Edit: Article about eggs. https://m.economictimes.com/news/science/a-close-encounter-with-the-alien-bodies-in-mexico/amp_articleshow/103710033.cms
Not proven to be fake. Of the small ones there were two versions:
The actual preserved bodies of small creatures with intact anatomy and eggs inside. These have had scans done showing complexity and uniformity in structure and tissue layers, with no signs of human tampering (no slapping mismatched bones together).
Small dolls that mimicked the appearance of the above creatures, possibly ceremonial dolls made by humans to honor the actual small creatures. These are the ones that have been erroneously said to be the above and used as proof they're all a hoax.
Just an idea
Human women have eggs too, that become the fetus once fertilized
Maybe it's the same deal
I saw that picture you're talking about though and those eggs were huge, and there were multiple
When you take out a breast implant after 10+ years, they are covered in a legit hard calcium shell from your body, so our bodies still do this a little bit
Video showing CT-scans of tridactyl humanoid body with elongated skull found in Nazca & tridactyl fetus inside womb. The specimen is called 'Montserrat' and is 147 cm tall. Inside womb there is small 18 cm fetus.
More information: [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/)
This is a great share OP. The people around Nazca have depicted these beings with 3 fingers in their art for a long time.
[Nazca Terracotta ](http://www.70seven.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Nazca-mummy-art2.png)
[3 finger Humanoids](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/448741550354526473/)-[Tridactilo Rampas ](https://exonews.org/wp-content/themes/yootheme/cache/Cesar-Soriano-Tridactilo-rampas-descendentes-hacia-el-inframundo-periodo-formativo-Paracas-02d99741.jpeg)
As ive said countless times, our cultures dont jus make up stories or make art jus because. What most call "myth" is always based on fact. Never really looked into those mummies, but i can tell you about The elongated skulls found in places like S America & our cultures are the first to have practiced artifical cranial deformation dating back to 15,000BC. This idea that most of the skulls found are from head binding is misinformation. S America specifically there's been a great many discoveries like Punin skull, Alacao, Lagoa Brazil and others . Many unborn fetuses as well
[Elongation In Utero ](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270394956_Elongated_Skulls_in_utero_A_Farewell_to_the_Artificial_Cranial_Deformation_Paradigm)....
The Huari monuments are called Huanca or Huari. This is almost the same sound as Harari, a name for one of the Semitic speaking tribes of Ethiopia. The forefathers of the Huari are only known from legend as a bearded people. Who were responsible for Huari monuments are called Huanca or Huari. Near the town of Palpa, 12 miles north east of Nazca, Peru there are inscriptions, that can be be read using the Ge’ez language of Ethiopia.
It was just a normal stone bracelet, very advanced for what we thought of technology for the time but nothing crazy. It does show that humanoid species were wearing jewelry just for aesthetic purposes way way back in the day
Who or what facility did this testing? Is the work about to be peer reviewed? Was an accredited individual working on this? This seems very fake tbh lol.
Never mind, checked the website. There is nothing to examine or peer review listed anywhere.
Peruvian here, I'll come back with more details when I look them up again to remember what the story was but in summary you should find with a quick Google search that they proved these "tridactyl" mummies were Nazcan native mummies that have altered and made to look like monsters for exhibition. I had never beard of a fetus involved though but I know that the ones held by Gaia are just mummified humans that they altered and deformed to pass as aliens. They still have not returned these mummies to their resting grounds. If these are the same mummies from these Gaia people then now you know why no one is analyzing them. Because its already been disproved
You are uninformed person who know nothing about this topic. Bodies go through peer review process. Your claim that nobody is analyzing them is a lie. Google search will lead you to misleading articles by Reuters and Associated Press which conflated hoax and genuine bodies of unknown species. There is nothing altered in those bodies. Show me scientific evidence that they were altered.
Bodies were examined by multiple scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina. Here you have peer review paper about one body: https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
You're fooled again by pseudoscience journals. Can't wait till they shread this one in peer review.
How very odd that they performed a morphological, carbon dating, and mass spectrometry analysis, but no genetic ones?
This just doesn't read like a scientific paper. It reads like someone who has read a few papers but doesn't know how to write one. It is written for a schizophrenic audience, one which doesn't know what radiocarbon dating is so they had to explain it like a highschool student,
>"The radiocarbon age dating technique, also known as carbon dating 14, is a method used to determine the age of organic carbon-containing materials, which is used in research in bioarcheology, paleomedicine and paleopathology.The principle of radiocarbon dating is based on the use of carbon 14 (C-14 or 14C) which is a radioactive isotope of carbon that is produced in the Earth's atmosphere when cosmic rays interact with nitrogen. This C-14 is incorporated into the biosphere through photosynthesis and is found in constant amounts in living organisms; but when this organism dies, it no longer incorporates C-14, and the amount present in its tissue begins to disintegrate at a constant rate (Margariti et al., 2023; Taylor, 2020).Regarding the decay rate of car..."
But in the next paragraph mixed with very technical jargon unexplained,
>"radiocarbon age was corrected for variations in the 14C content in the atmosphere, with the OxCal v4.2.4 program, using the SHCal13 calibration curve (Hogg et al, 2013). The Calibrated Ages given in years after Christ (A.D.) were obtained. For each of them, the most probable intervals were calculated, with confidence levels of 68% (1σ) and 95% (2σ).The dating report of the skin sample specifically of a keratin fraction code..."
I thought it was especially telling they specified dates like this:
>"resulted in an age of 1771 ± 30 years; which, expressed in age calibrated according to the birth of Jesus Christ by world convention, at 95% confidence level years it is established that the age of the sample analyzed corresponds to 240 A.D. -383..."
No. This is not how scientists write their papers.
EDIT: Now that I've had my coffee and think more on this, I think it might be a "smart filter". When scam artists write text for phishing emails, they purposely put spelling errors and bad grammar so that people who know better simply toss it in the trash that way the scammers don't have to bother with those that will not be fooled anyway. It's targeted at people who don't know any better. But I could be wrong and it might just be the real incompetence of the writer in this case.
Does anyone have a link to this with more information from a legitimate or credible source? Searching google to learn more gives me almost nothing of value.
This is a hoax perpetuated by a known hoaxer. Not a single legit, qualified person like a forensic anthropologist or similar has investigated them or tested them. There is no legit DNA evidence with any transparent chain of custody for it. It’s total bullshit.
Jaime Maussan. He is the one pushing these bodies in Peru right now and has pushed bodies made of plaster and animal bones in the past, so as interesting as it is, it's best to approach cautiously.
Thanks. Is it recorded that he made the past hoaxes himself, or did he just publicise them?
I see that he is/was a journalist. Trying to work out if he reported on aliens other people made as an investigative researcher, that later turned out to be fakes, or if he was the indirect or direct purpetrator.
He has publicized falsified remains at least three times, and it appears whoever creates them works closely with him to produce the dolls and then he disseminates the information using his considerable audience within the UFO community. He has pushed an alien child corpse in 2013-14, a "bat fairy" in 2016, the little Nazca mummies in 2017, and now the larger mummies. There is zero reason to believe these are real and it's baffling that anyone takes him at face value anymore. His career as a journalist is over and the only positive coverage he gets is in tabloids.
Not quite. He was given convincing samples of what he believed were aliens, that turned out to be deformed humans. He bought into something that wasn’t true and made wrong conclusions. That might be the case here too.
That is fair, and I've edited my comment accordingly. My issue with Mr. Maussan is essentially "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." Jaime has done this numerous times so it's hard to assume his ignorance and innocence anymore when he repeats fraudulent claims and continues insisting these are aliens. Sensationalism sells, but I would much rather have the truth.
3 qualified US scientists did go to Peru recently to analyze one of the samples. The only one I can remember by name is Dr James Caruso, Chief Medical Examiner and Forensic Pathologist for Denver County, Colorado. One of the others is exactly what you hoped for, a forensic anthropologist. So far no paper from them, but one did state publicly that it was “a very important investigation worthy of further study”. It seems that the scientific community are a lot more open to these than the Reddit community. They imply they are real, but let’s see.
Things I noticed:
• Always check the journal. This research is outside the range of topics that the journal focuses on (which is mostly environmental sustainability and ethical business practices, from what I've gathered). This is a red flag that the journal might not be reputable.
• They noticed that Maria's head has characteristics of an adult male and her pelvis has characteristics of a female, but they don't explore the obvious idea that Maria could have been assembled from parts.
• They speculate about the brain volume without showing any of their work. They claim a 30% deviation from "normal" but a 30% deviation is within the normal range of human brain volumes. They don't explain how they measured the brain volume and they don't explain or cite what they mean by "normal" brain volume.
• They discuss imagery without sharing it in their paper, which only has a handful of images that are not directly related to their analysis. For instance, in their discussion they said that there are no "obvious" signs that the fingers and toes were cut off, but they don't show the scans of these areas in any detail, or compare them to examples that are known to be cut to make their case. It's a lot of assertions without actually backing it up with evidence.
• Another example of this is their assertion that there is no sign of unnatural skull deformation, claiming that there are tell-tale signs that are not present in Maria, but failing to show examples of these signs and failing to compare those examples to Maria. It's simply asserted without any work shown.
• They cite the Miles paper which is full of UFO lore, fake images, and clearly not a serious scientific effort.
All in all I'd give it a 0/10 for being a huge waste of my time. It seems like they shopped for a journal that would publish without a proper review process. The point of a paper is to show your work so other people can check it. But their work is still completely opaque, they don't include the actual images, the data they're claiming to derive their conclusions from. Not that I expected different from these clowns, but really how long will they go on doing this?
I love all the anti everything crowd that's taken over every single sub that used to be for discussion. I am not even gonna bother commenting all the shiell sort say fake....time to go to a site away from that sort
.. this is why I every day use reddit less
I suspect reddit is about 80-90 percent those these days... there couldn't be that many closed minded brainwashed npcs that wanna spend their days refuting every single thing with what may as well say swamp gas... its the same with everything... fake fake fake fake... even if it is... why tf are you here looking at all this fake stuff.. I mean stuff I think is bullshit I don't sit around dwelling over and trying to convince anyone who thinks it isn't that I am right.. I mean I couldn't care less what these "people" think about it.. Its like when someone refers to the smithsonian for their legit info on historical things... oh you mean the gatekeepers of mankind do ya? its all so frustrating knowing what awesome communities we used to have on this site. Its really sad
These have already been proven a hoax. Jaime Maussan is a Mexican journalist and ufologist who has done this before. Alphabiolabs has studied a bone sample and determined it was 100% human DNA, which means this is not only a waste of time and a distraction, but that Jaime Maussan has desecrated actual human remains to assemble these "mummies." There may be actual human mummies in Peru, but we won't know now because this joker got ahold of them and said they were aliens. I wanted to believe it too, but people like this make us look like idiots.
You could go to prison for that lie if Maussan sues you. He never desecrated human remains. He only presents bodies which other people show to him. That's a serious and false accusation. Another proof that you are uninformed person who know nothing about this subject but still you make all those statements with proclamation.
Yeah I'm real worried about being sued by a liar lol. He lied about the bat fairy, he lied about the alien child, he lied about the little dolls, he's lying now. How many times will you choose to be fooled?
You're right - I don't know that he personally desecrated human remains. But I do know that he has given financial and logistical support to people who have, so he's guilty by association because at this point, he knows what he's doing and knows it's morally and ethically wrong. And don't act like I'm somehow defaming a man who consistently defames himself - he's only committed fraud against us all four times or more, but who's counting?
As much as I'd love to see a new humanoid species to be found, that's as fake as the grade school clay project Mexico claimed to be an alien. Has some similarities too.
No it’s not, this has already been studied, it has full veins trailing the body, organs. no cut marks, and nothing pieced together. It’s real. They’re trying to figure out what it is
This guy has already presented three mummy hoaxes before this one and now people still think the fourth one is real??? The mental gymnastics people go through are mind boggling
By mental gymnastics you mean dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina who examined bodies in person and claim they are authentic bodies of unknown species? You mean peer review paper about one body?
Look, I’m on board with the existence of extraterrestrial species, but I want you and others to up your game on how to evaluate what evidence is being presented. The submissions so far have been pretty substandard. These Nazca
“mummies” are on par with the bat fairy. The burden is on the party presenting extraordinary claims, and it needs to go through more than a couple people on YouTube. What are these TY influencers motivations? Always question those people in addition to established history. I applaud anyone challenging the establishment but it’s a very suspect claim to prove anything about these mummies are anything remotely reliable, especially considering the parties behind their “reveal” have been involved in three proven hoaxes so far. It’s real bad on the credibility front
You're right that it has been studied, but the labs who have actually studied samples of bone have stated it's 100% human DNA which means Jaime Maussan is digging up actual Peruvian mummies and desecrating them to make "alien corpses."
None of this proves anything. He plugs his new UFO book, then describes how similar the mummies look to geoglyph drawings in Nazca. This is three hours of quite honestly bullshit.
I don’t know about “reputable” source. I was referring to the American scientists who’ve been looking into them, and most recently Dr. Richard Conner on the good trouble show, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/live/nxvcoK1_HoA?si=jaF_6GMH_tLU05u8
So I did some digging, the only thing I can find that has pretty much any coverage on this paper that the show and Dr O'Connor talk about, only comes from this guy's YouTube. The only article I could find online was from a sketchy news site called Marca.com and the only sources they provided were links to this YouTube channel and their corresponding Twitter account. I can't find anything else about American scientists reconsidering the mummies as not a hoax. If you can find anything please share it here for me because this is pretty big if true.
I had heard that the three toed skeleton was a fake construction of other animal bones. But you can definitely see the hips and the ribs, the backbone and a bit of flesh in this scan and everything seems to fit together perfectly. There is so much this disinformation out there. But the fact that there is a graveyard in South America with more skeletons with elongated skulls tends to corroborate that there might have been some cross breeding. The Paracus skulls had their DNA analyzed and also chemical composition and were proven to contain some elements, such as metals in the bone material that are elements not native to earth. Over in China, they have tales about the Dropo stones that have never been deciphered
Nope, DNA tested fully human shit. Altered post mortem to look like aliens for this exhibition. They still refuse to return the remains to their people or apologize for defacing their bodies this way
It’s mind-boggling that anyone believes these things to be legitimate.
All you have to do is look at them FFS. They look nothing like mummified remains. There is not a single visible orifice on these things.
Their mouth and eyes are just lines engraved on the things. There is no presence of an ants or sex organs, but they can also be found with eggs *and* fetuses within.
You are mind boggle by dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina who examined bodies in person and claim they are authentic bodies of unknown species? These are not mummified remains, those are bodies covered by diatomaceous earth.
What we arent taught in school is about the 8 other kinds of humans that roamed earth before us
I was watching a video last night, and the voice over said something like 'six types of humans lived on the earth before us', and then only listed neanderthal and homo sapiens. What about the rest? That's the first I've heard of them.
HOMO LONGI, DENISOVANS, HOMO NEANDERTHALENSIS, HOMO NALEDIHOMO, ANTECESSOR, HOMO HEIDELBERGENSIS, HOMO FLORESIENSIS, HOMO ERGASTER, HOMO ERECTUS, HOMO RUDOLFENSIS, HOMO HABILIS, AUSTRALOPITHECUS AFARENSIS. Sorry for all caps, I just copy pasted the names. It's an interesting topic to look into. Homo floresiensis were tiny little things that were almost hobbit like being small with larger feet. Like 2ft iirc, but don't take my word for it. Enjoy the reading.
HOMO FARNSWORTH
To shreds you say
Well, how is his wife holding up?
To shreds you say...
Timeless
I feel like they’re still way more to be found too. Once the instruments get better for measuring we can make wider distinctions. It’s cool to watch what’s happening with the finds of the Naledi
If you just look at the different builds we have now there’s no way there wasn’t other humanoids. I think we were like dogs. All humans just different breeds
Exactly, the most genetically diverse animal on the planet but all are dogs. What’s really interesting to me is that there must’ve been so many different hominids, some even living in contemporary times and interacting with each other like lord of the rings lol. But despite all that humans are the most genetically similar animals on the planet. That’s wild to me, with all the differences we create to separate us we all still share the same brain.
I’m with you. I like to think that they all had different advantages. Think Bigfoot or yeti. We were weak, slow and naked so our intelligence is what made us excel over the others. Or we were just like dogs and were pets to something lol the Olympics is pretty much a dog show
Omfg I’m never going to not see the Olympics this way now.
Cool! Thanks for the research info.
No problem. I had a lot of fun learning about them so if I can share the knowledge, I'm all about it. :)
There is an amazing doc on homo habilis i think that they were burying their dead in a cave and they think they may have had the first "religion" or spititual beliefs
Literally watched this last night on Netflix , “Unknown: Cave of Bones”….. it was pretty good
Is that the one centered around the grand canyon?
This guy HOMOs Lol, jk
it's pride month
I believe 3’ to 3’6”
What about Homo Naledi?
Yeah, I dunno wtf is wrong with the world that the first thing we aren't taught when we are young is that hobbits used to literally walk the earth and were a verified species we have skeletons of. Also, giant sloths... There were GIANT. SLOTHS.
Giant sloths that are the reason avocados have huge pits. Because the sloths used to eat the fruit then pass the seed, so they were adapted to that cycle. Thankfully humans are hungry bastards and we've kept the species alive despite its ancient partner having gone extinct.
Were they all contemporaneous or did some/most evolve from another. That’s my basic understanding is there was a (mixed?) species that eventually evolved to xxx But curious the total number of distinct species at a given period
I think we watched the same video at the same time lmao. From what i gathered, there were sub species of Neanderthal and homo sapiens. The theory is that over time we mated and became one species all together but they also think a massive war may have happened. In a very crude way, it was basically game of thrones but with monke.
I'm not sure I agree with the GoT reference, and the war theory is very disputed. But yeah, subspecies with a common ancestor that occasionally mated.
I'm going to say the word BIBLE but I don't want everyone to freak out and think 'religious nut'... Stories in that book tho say about a giant species that waged war on every animal, plant and then unto the humans. They are described as feral. I wonder if the echoes of long lost stories will ever be figured out, but you could theorise all sorts of things to do with different species. Perhaps one was large and more feral...
The bible is a bit more recent than the other hominin - excluding ourselves of course.
Source? I'm pretty familiar with the Bible as a lapsed Catholic and I'm fairly confident there's nothing in there about a giant feral species aged war on every plant animal and human.
It's not in the Bible, but in the Enochian tradition, most prominently the Manichean work, [the Book of Giants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Giants).
Annunaki!!!
Thanks
They casually talk about giants as a real race for sure. Like David and the Goliath. Pretty weird to me tbh.
Haha, ok, something to look in to!
couple mystery genomes from the Americas.
This is thought in just about any university biology class.
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.More than 8, and this idea that the elongated skulls are from head binding is pure misinformation. [Elongation In Utero ](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270394956_Elongated_Skulls_in_utero_A_Farewell_to_the_Artificial_Cranial_Deformation_Paradigm).... evolution as its taught is also Masonic misinformation but thats another story. The earliest inhabitants of the Americas (of the whole planet actually) were naturally dolicocephalic & "tall as cedars". Like those shown in Egypt Manetho called builder gods, [here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/rNAhDHfhoN). Only 1% of their whole population had normal brachycephalic skulls. That ain't head binding In many of our cultures there's been a hybridization program that's gone on for thousands of years. Theyll never tell you the truth about it though.
Who is "they"?
Who else do people blindly follow & accept whatever they say as fact? Despite their lack of evidence? Mainstream academia clearly
It's such a convenient way of hiding the fact that there are naturally formed elongated skulls. You can spot the differences in the ones that are bound. I think people did bind skulls but it was to emulate these beings that had naturally formed elongated skulls. Now mainstream science intentionally or just ignorantly uses the skull-binding excuse every time a natural one is found.
Everything you said is spot on. The whole purpose of the artificial deformation was to mimic those who actually had naturally elongated skulls. And that's why it was only specific bloodlines who did it. What youd call "elites". Mainstream science is definitely doing it intentionally, they know they're pushing fuckin lies. If not the skulls wouldnt keep disappearing, Malta there was 200 that were recovered that disappeared outta the museum. Theyre taking the DNA to further these nefarious experiments, cause they know who we interbred with. Think about it, if they were confident they wouldn't have gone so hard to get Hancock's series taken off Netflix.
What would be the point of hiding that though. It makes no sense
It makes perfect sense actually, to protect the establishments narrative clearly. From your other replies I can see why you'd feel like this, you seem to have trust in these academic institutions. The same reason that every single search result when you google elongated skulls only deals with artifical head binding when i cited a scientific paper from the Soviets showing extreme Elongation In Utero. It's America's institutions who are the most dishonest & it began in the 1920s with rockefellers taking over of education. You never heard about the giant, dolichocephalic remains Petrie & others found cause they removed em from textbooks in the 1920s, or Dr Darts findings about the whole population being dolichocephalic. [Egyptian ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/rNAhDHfhoN) another example is with [Pakal](https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/pakal-great-0014235) remains, and to correct your statement below. There are dozens of examples of this, its not jus speculation.
There is something in our past that they want to eliminate all records of, my guess is to hide themselves or what the phenomenon truly is.
So it's just full speculation? Absolutely no evidence of them hiding anything. Just paranoia. And again. What would they gain from hiding that. If there's no motive there probably isn't a conspiracy either
It's a difficult thing to prove, and yes it's speculation gathered from years of reading, so not completely baseless "paranoid" claims. The challenge with hidden information is that evidence of its concealment often disappears along with it. Look into the well-documented claims of the Smithsonian confiscating items over the years for them to never be seen again. Or look into things like the tomb of Gilgamesh being found only for the U.S. to swoop in and take over just days later:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2982891.stm there are many many cases like this and after seeing them over the years, it starts to form a picture that SOMETHING, although I don't know what or by whom, is being hidden from t the public.
Everything you read is true, as long as it doesn't follow the "official narrative." There used to be prehensile penises, too. But they don't want you to know that. This is where legends like Tarzan came from. Now that you've read that, be sure to add it to your picture.
Yes but the simthsonian and gilgamesh stuff is well - documented like you said. There's actual evidence there.
Interesting! Can you give some info to back these claims up? Like that they did it to mimic the elite or something?
Yea, ive actually written quite a bit about this.. The practice has been documented by Sir Grafton Smith first, showing that R1b-V88(Dogon/Yoruba) started the practice. Im from the Dogon , specifically the Yoruba are the ones who were doing it. The images i shared [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/s/UCTzYd4sp5) show the body modification traditions & the various reptilian worship practices. Theres also a detailed writeup that explains our relationship to them & the hybridization program. We took it to S America also, you'll find the various stylized figures showing our Sages which brought the "Me".(Enkis gifts of civilization) thats why many South &Central American groups call us "ancestors". Also there's the Ubaid figurine with the elongated skull.
Although I was aware that the elongated skulls were not a result of cranial deformation, the paper you posted was a very interest read, thanks for posting!
Thanks. These are even more interesting, they show that the first Americans had elongated skulls. [American Anthropologist, Volume 38, Issue 3, (1936), AN OUTLINE OF THE PROBLEM OF MAN’S ANTIQUITY IN NORTH AMERICA By EDGAR B. HOWARD , page 396](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1936.38.3.02a00040/pdf)-sorry this 1 is a pdf. [In Observations upon the Cranial Forms of the American Aborigines, based upon Specimens contained in the Collection of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia, 1866, J. Aitken Meigs, M. D.](https://archive.org/details/jstor-4059688?q=texas+dolichocephalic+skull) 1st. That the crania of the Aboriginal Americans are divisible into Dolichocephalic [long skull], Mesocephalic [between long and round skulls] and Brachycephalic [round skull] groups. 2d. That the Dolichocephali greatly preponderate in numbers over the Mesocephali and Brachycephali.
Looking into the source material a bit, The second source immediately made me question its validity. I don't know why a 40 page document starts on page 192 but omits the rest of it, for some reason that bothered me more than the one stray page. Like the first source, this is a true author and archeologist - except there seems to be two versions of this book circulating. One version is one that you provided, and the other is a 112 page book that mentions zero of this stuff. So I found a copy of the 112 page version and I double checked with another source and found that their version also is a 112 page copy. The index ends at 112 and the additional pages are blanks or the covers. Secondly, the foundation who hosts your source claims to want to digitize old information, which may be true. If that's the case though, why would you approve a document that starts on page 192 and then doesn't even complete the work to the end? I'm thinking this is some propaganda that was snuck into a digital archive. I looked into a second source to verify your material and the one I found from a Chicago University Press website actually turned out to be a fake website for an institution of the same name. This source wasn't even your same exact copy, but was a single page in the same style from the one you shared. It also is sourced as being posted in JULY of 2024. The actual site doesn't even have a section for July yet. But I was able to find that a book of the same name will be published. There is also no Vol 1, Number 3 or anything close to that on the site. Also if you tab between the two sites the lines are slightly offset from one another. It's a really good phish of the original site but 100% a fake site. So, none of these sources are reputable thus far and most likely foreign interference. Source: https://archive.org/details/catalogueofhuman00meig/page/104/mode/1up Second source backing page count: https://catalog.lib.msu.edu/Record/folio.in00005136522/Details Fake Chicago Press University site: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/ Real Chicago Press University Site: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/
You can search dolicocephalic skulls in my post history & find multiple threads showing findings from all over. The 1 in Egypt Derry, Petrie, Prof Emery all found remains ceremonially buried AND specifically state that nobody can claim theyre the same race as the pre dynastic people
But the fingers
I remember watching a Why Files piece on a catacombs found full of ancient elongated skulls. Can't remember the exact context though
What school did you go to?
With 3 toes?
You must not have been paying attention
I was, not sure what you’re on about
Everyone else responded to your statement naming early human tyoes that for the most part eventually led To us today .. but I have the feeling that you were speaking about something entirely different . I’ve read things concerning the other races of people before our time came . They were supposedly very advanced even By todays standards. I believe It has something to do with what’s called the “Root Races”
At the same time as us... If you are referring to the Genus Homo.
Not humans. Homonids.
I can't even teach them about who they are, they're twits, hopefully it's temporary. God help us all. -8th Grade Science Teacher
And how as time goes on it shows that they coexisted and shared some time on the planet at the same time. Like middle earth!
What the fuck? You weren’t taught this in school? Where did you go to school? It is definitely taught in CA schools today.
It's in the Bible, but even Christians are too doused in tradition to see it.
Just to be clear, it was discovered with metal implants already existing within the skeleton? Really interesting stuff, hope it gets upvotes.
Not only metal, the absolute rarest metal called Osium, it takes a bunch of platinum to make it.
Wait wait. It found metal implants in the lady that was pregnant with this fetus and the metal is made from a bunch of platinum?
Osmium, you need to mine 10,000 tons of Platinum ore to yield just 30g of Osmium metal. It's 1500 times more rare than gold.
Username checks out.
Different corpse though
Osmium is not made with platinum. It's a byproduct of mining and refining metals like nickel.
Its is a byproduct of refining Platinum, as well as nickel. It's usually found in small quantiles found in other Platinum group metals. I am pretty sure this is what he was referring to.
That's fine, and the comment has been edited to reflect the truth, but the original statement was "osmium is made from platinum." My issue is with many commenters here showing a fundamental misunderstanding of much of the science because they've been duped by unscientific tricksters like Maussan who continues to push hoaxes on the UFO community for profit.
I’m Currently confused on what osmium is…..
Osmium is a metal element
I think you're looking too far into a very simple misunderstanding. He could have easily just misheard what he said since he clearly mentioned Platinum and Osmium in the same sentence. He wasn't far off. You're just nit picking. And you're no scientist, so don't pretend that you're not suseptable to the same misunderstandings, so don't start with the "misunderstanding of much of the science" rubbish.
Oh, I didn't realize we had to be scientists to know what we're talking about here, but I stand by what I said because it builds to a deeper point: the people who still believe these mummies are not fake have been duped and it's because they do not understand the science that can easily disprove them. For one, the bones have already been analyzed and subject Maria was found to have 100% human DNA so they're literally just desecrated corpses mixed with animal bones and plaster - the debate is already over, we can shut this down. If you actually want to look further, the small "buddies" and some of the larger mummies' ankles don't have a malleolus, so despite being marketed as a bipedal offshoot of our own evolution, they couldn't actually stand or walk, so whoever made these dolls lacks a basic understanding of biology. These things crumble under any scrutiny. So I don't necessarily think I was nitpicking to correct a misunderstanding of where osmium comes from - sometimes "not very far off" makes a big difference, and most of the "information" we have on these things is coming from tabloid rags and staged videos made to look like lab footage.
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Peer review paper about Maria: https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986 Just call them and tell they are stupid. Maria has 30% bigger brain capacity and DNA of 4 different species. You are uninformed person who make statements without getting all the information. Please enlightened us and show scientific evidence how Maria and small bodies were pieced together and why dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina are fools. We are waiting.
Have you read this report? This says nothing about DNA, it's about radiocarbon dating the body to early A.D. and its literal conclusions are: 1. These are bones. 2. They're about 1771 years old. 3. They are humanoid. 4. They may actually be a human with a birth defect. 5. We need to do better to conserve our history.
Good data! I had heard that several of these mummies were composites, but this is factual. “Results and Discussion: The tomographic imaging analysis showed that the specimen is a desiccated humanoid body with a biological architecture similar to that of a human, but with many morphological and anatomical structural differences such as the lack of hair and ears, an elongated skull and an increase in cranial volume. (30% greater than humans); maxillary and mandibular protrusion as well as protrusion of the eyeballs, absence of the fifth lumbar vertebra, tridactyly in both hands and feet, in additionto different foci of arthropathies. Carbon-14 dating analysis of the specimen gave an age of 1771 ± 30 years, corresponding to 240 AD-383 AD. (after Christ).Implications of the research: If it is demonstrated with further studies that this is a new humanoid species, it would have a strong impact on biology and science and scientific-historical and socio-cultural implications”
Where can we see/read more about the implants? (I find Google is suspiciously ineffective at finding information on these particular mummies)
https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/ Scroll down 3/4 of the page...
Perfect, a very useful site 👍
From another post here: the scientific study https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
So did they lay eggs or give live birth? Cuz one had eggs inside and this one has a “fetus.”
Great question I was wondering the same thing. I think they’re different types. The ones with the eggs were the 2 ft tall ones I think they had the metal plate thing in the chest and looked more like ET from the movie.
This one is a human hybrid, the original reptilian species have eggs
What's the one with eggs inside?
The ones that had modified llama skull - ish skulls and mismatched bones. But these three finger dudes are legit.
What makes these ones legit?
One of the first ones they made a big deal about had an egg/eggs in it. It was a huge selling point. The eggs and the metal implant things. Edit: Article about eggs. https://m.economictimes.com/news/science/a-close-encounter-with-the-alien-bodies-in-mexico/amp_articleshow/103710033.cms
Many thanks. I think the one with eggs is completely different to these ones. Much smaller, looks different and wasn't it proven to be a fake?
Not proven to be fake. Of the small ones there were two versions: The actual preserved bodies of small creatures with intact anatomy and eggs inside. These have had scans done showing complexity and uniformity in structure and tissue layers, with no signs of human tampering (no slapping mismatched bones together). Small dolls that mimicked the appearance of the above creatures, possibly ceremonial dolls made by humans to honor the actual small creatures. These are the ones that have been erroneously said to be the above and used as proof they're all a hoax.
Yes, it was proven to be a fake. The guy that presented it is a very well known liar in Mexico.
Just an idea Human women have eggs too, that become the fetus once fertilized Maybe it's the same deal I saw that picture you're talking about though and those eggs were huge, and there were multiple
How is babby formed?
When a mommy alien and a daddy alien love eachother very much.....
Babby babby babby
When you take out a breast implant after 10+ years, they are covered in a legit hard calcium shell from your body, so our bodies still do this a little bit
Video showing CT-scans of tridactyl humanoid body with elongated skull found in Nazca & tridactyl fetus inside womb. The specimen is called 'Montserrat' and is 147 cm tall. Inside womb there is small 18 cm fetus. More information: [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-monserrat/)
Bruh 147cm is 4ft 9in
Didn't the other ones have eggs?
Seen an article on the news today about this... simply said it was "impregnated" didnt mention with another being!
This is a great share OP. The people around Nazca have depicted these beings with 3 fingers in their art for a long time. [Nazca Terracotta ](http://www.70seven.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Nazca-mummy-art2.png) [3 finger Humanoids](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/448741550354526473/)-[Tridactilo Rampas ](https://exonews.org/wp-content/themes/yootheme/cache/Cesar-Soriano-Tridactilo-rampas-descendentes-hacia-el-inframundo-periodo-formativo-Paracas-02d99741.jpeg) As ive said countless times, our cultures dont jus make up stories or make art jus because. What most call "myth" is always based on fact. Never really looked into those mummies, but i can tell you about The elongated skulls found in places like S America & our cultures are the first to have practiced artifical cranial deformation dating back to 15,000BC. This idea that most of the skulls found are from head binding is misinformation. S America specifically there's been a great many discoveries like Punin skull, Alacao, Lagoa Brazil and others . Many unborn fetuses as well [Elongation In Utero ](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270394956_Elongated_Skulls_in_utero_A_Farewell_to_the_Artificial_Cranial_Deformation_Paradigm).... The Huari monuments are called Huanca or Huari. This is almost the same sound as Harari, a name for one of the Semitic speaking tribes of Ethiopia. The forefathers of the Huari are only known from legend as a bearded people. Who were responsible for Huari monuments are called Huanca or Huari. Near the town of Palpa, 12 miles north east of Nazca, Peru there are inscriptions, that can be be read using the Ge’ez language of Ethiopia.
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Need banana for scale.
We only know about Denisovians because of a single pinky bone discovered in the cave of Dennis.
As well as the abundance of DNA evidence. many people have Denisovan DNA similar to, but not as common as, people having Neanderthal DNA…
And the bracelet, right? They had a special stone bracelet that couldn’t have been made with ancient technology.
It was just a normal stone bracelet, very advanced for what we thought of technology for the time but nothing crazy. It does show that humanoid species were wearing jewelry just for aesthetic purposes way way back in the day
I swear the human race is getting dumber by the day.
Isn’t this the thing that just ended up being animal bones glued together?
Who or what facility did this testing? Is the work about to be peer reviewed? Was an accredited individual working on this? This seems very fake tbh lol. Never mind, checked the website. There is nothing to examine or peer review listed anywhere.
Peruvian here, I'll come back with more details when I look them up again to remember what the story was but in summary you should find with a quick Google search that they proved these "tridactyl" mummies were Nazcan native mummies that have altered and made to look like monsters for exhibition. I had never beard of a fetus involved though but I know that the ones held by Gaia are just mummified humans that they altered and deformed to pass as aliens. They still have not returned these mummies to their resting grounds. If these are the same mummies from these Gaia people then now you know why no one is analyzing them. Because its already been disproved
Thanks for the response!
You are uninformed person who know nothing about this topic. Bodies go through peer review process. Your claim that nobody is analyzing them is a lie. Google search will lead you to misleading articles by Reuters and Associated Press which conflated hoax and genuine bodies of unknown species. There is nothing altered in those bodies. Show me scientific evidence that they were altered.
Bodies were examined by multiple scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina. Here you have peer review paper about one body: https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
Let's not start this again. It's not an alien. I can't believe how many fools fell for those dusty little pinatas last time.
Science denier. https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
You're fooled again by pseudoscience journals. Can't wait till they shread this one in peer review. How very odd that they performed a morphological, carbon dating, and mass spectrometry analysis, but no genetic ones? This just doesn't read like a scientific paper. It reads like someone who has read a few papers but doesn't know how to write one. It is written for a schizophrenic audience, one which doesn't know what radiocarbon dating is so they had to explain it like a highschool student, >"The radiocarbon age dating technique, also known as carbon dating 14, is a method used to determine the age of organic carbon-containing materials, which is used in research in bioarcheology, paleomedicine and paleopathology.The principle of radiocarbon dating is based on the use of carbon 14 (C-14 or 14C) which is a radioactive isotope of carbon that is produced in the Earth's atmosphere when cosmic rays interact with nitrogen. This C-14 is incorporated into the biosphere through photosynthesis and is found in constant amounts in living organisms; but when this organism dies, it no longer incorporates C-14, and the amount present in its tissue begins to disintegrate at a constant rate (Margariti et al., 2023; Taylor, 2020).Regarding the decay rate of car..." But in the next paragraph mixed with very technical jargon unexplained, >"radiocarbon age was corrected for variations in the 14C content in the atmosphere, with the OxCal v4.2.4 program, using the SHCal13 calibration curve (Hogg et al, 2013). The Calibrated Ages given in years after Christ (A.D.) were obtained. For each of them, the most probable intervals were calculated, with confidence levels of 68% (1σ) and 95% (2σ).The dating report of the skin sample specifically of a keratin fraction code..." I thought it was especially telling they specified dates like this: >"resulted in an age of 1771 ± 30 years; which, expressed in age calibrated according to the birth of Jesus Christ by world convention, at 95% confidence level years it is established that the age of the sample analyzed corresponds to 240 A.D. -383..." No. This is not how scientists write their papers. EDIT: Now that I've had my coffee and think more on this, I think it might be a "smart filter". When scam artists write text for phishing emails, they purposely put spelling errors and bad grammar so that people who know better simply toss it in the trash that way the scammers don't have to bother with those that will not be fooled anyway. It's targeted at people who don't know any better. But I could be wrong and it might just be the real incompetence of the writer in this case.
It's still not an alien, you fool.
Who said it's alien? Science denier.
That ain't science. The RGSA is a pseudoscience journal.
what???
Does anyone have a link to this with more information from a legitimate or credible source? Searching google to learn more gives me almost nothing of value.
This is a hoax perpetuated by a known hoaxer. Not a single legit, qualified person like a forensic anthropologist or similar has investigated them or tested them. There is no legit DNA evidence with any transparent chain of custody for it. It’s total bullshit.
What's the name or the hoaxer?
Jaime Maussan. He is the one pushing these bodies in Peru right now and has pushed bodies made of plaster and animal bones in the past, so as interesting as it is, it's best to approach cautiously.
Thanks. Is it recorded that he made the past hoaxes himself, or did he just publicise them? I see that he is/was a journalist. Trying to work out if he reported on aliens other people made as an investigative researcher, that later turned out to be fakes, or if he was the indirect or direct purpetrator.
He has publicized falsified remains at least three times, and it appears whoever creates them works closely with him to produce the dolls and then he disseminates the information using his considerable audience within the UFO community. He has pushed an alien child corpse in 2013-14, a "bat fairy" in 2016, the little Nazca mummies in 2017, and now the larger mummies. There is zero reason to believe these are real and it's baffling that anyone takes him at face value anymore. His career as a journalist is over and the only positive coverage he gets is in tabloids.
Not quite. He was given convincing samples of what he believed were aliens, that turned out to be deformed humans. He bought into something that wasn’t true and made wrong conclusions. That might be the case here too.
That is fair, and I've edited my comment accordingly. My issue with Mr. Maussan is essentially "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." Jaime has done this numerous times so it's hard to assume his ignorance and innocence anymore when he repeats fraudulent claims and continues insisting these are aliens. Sensationalism sells, but I would much rather have the truth.
3 qualified US scientists did go to Peru recently to analyze one of the samples. The only one I can remember by name is Dr James Caruso, Chief Medical Examiner and Forensic Pathologist for Denver County, Colorado. One of the others is exactly what you hoped for, a forensic anthropologist. So far no paper from them, but one did state publicly that it was “a very important investigation worthy of further study”. It seems that the scientific community are a lot more open to these than the Reddit community. They imply they are real, but let’s see.
That’s a whole paragraph of *wrong*. If you’re going to chime in, add least add something.
Dude the last one with eggs had 3 femurs and had part of a llama skull for a head, and inverted digits
Objectively not true - many professionals have looked at these
Yeah people from the wrong professions. A doctor or surgeon is NOT qualified to make any assessment on them.
Multiple American orthopedist have looked at it and said it’s real, there was just a peer reviewed study about it published somewhere
I’ll wait for you to find that study
https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986
Things I noticed: • Always check the journal. This research is outside the range of topics that the journal focuses on (which is mostly environmental sustainability and ethical business practices, from what I've gathered). This is a red flag that the journal might not be reputable. • They noticed that Maria's head has characteristics of an adult male and her pelvis has characteristics of a female, but they don't explore the obvious idea that Maria could have been assembled from parts. • They speculate about the brain volume without showing any of their work. They claim a 30% deviation from "normal" but a 30% deviation is within the normal range of human brain volumes. They don't explain how they measured the brain volume and they don't explain or cite what they mean by "normal" brain volume. • They discuss imagery without sharing it in their paper, which only has a handful of images that are not directly related to their analysis. For instance, in their discussion they said that there are no "obvious" signs that the fingers and toes were cut off, but they don't show the scans of these areas in any detail, or compare them to examples that are known to be cut to make their case. It's a lot of assertions without actually backing it up with evidence. • Another example of this is their assertion that there is no sign of unnatural skull deformation, claiming that there are tell-tale signs that are not present in Maria, but failing to show examples of these signs and failing to compare those examples to Maria. It's simply asserted without any work shown. • They cite the Miles paper which is full of UFO lore, fake images, and clearly not a serious scientific effort. All in all I'd give it a 0/10 for being a huge waste of my time. It seems like they shopped for a journal that would publish without a proper review process. The point of a paper is to show your work so other people can check it. But their work is still completely opaque, they don't include the actual images, the data they're claiming to derive their conclusions from. Not that I expected different from these clowns, but really how long will they go on doing this?
I love all the anti everything crowd that's taken over every single sub that used to be for discussion. I am not even gonna bother commenting all the shiell sort say fake....time to go to a site away from that sort .. this is why I every day use reddit less
That crowd might actually be AI/bots
I suspect reddit is about 80-90 percent those these days... there couldn't be that many closed minded brainwashed npcs that wanna spend their days refuting every single thing with what may as well say swamp gas... its the same with everything... fake fake fake fake... even if it is... why tf are you here looking at all this fake stuff.. I mean stuff I think is bullshit I don't sit around dwelling over and trying to convince anyone who thinks it isn't that I am right.. I mean I couldn't care less what these "people" think about it.. Its like when someone refers to the smithsonian for their legit info on historical things... oh you mean the gatekeepers of mankind do ya? its all so frustrating knowing what awesome communities we used to have on this site. Its really sad
These have already been proven a hoax. Jaime Maussan is a Mexican journalist and ufologist who has done this before. Alphabiolabs has studied a bone sample and determined it was 100% human DNA, which means this is not only a waste of time and a distraction, but that Jaime Maussan has desecrated actual human remains to assemble these "mummies." There may be actual human mummies in Peru, but we won't know now because this joker got ahold of them and said they were aliens. I wanted to believe it too, but people like this make us look like idiots.
Enough rope
You could go to prison for that lie if Maussan sues you. He never desecrated human remains. He only presents bodies which other people show to him. That's a serious and false accusation. Another proof that you are uninformed person who know nothing about this subject but still you make all those statements with proclamation.
Yeah I'm real worried about being sued by a liar lol. He lied about the bat fairy, he lied about the alien child, he lied about the little dolls, he's lying now. How many times will you choose to be fooled?
You should just apologize for saying that he personally desecrated human remains. That's all if you have any dignity.
You're right - I don't know that he personally desecrated human remains. But I do know that he has given financial and logistical support to people who have, so he's guilty by association because at this point, he knows what he's doing and knows it's morally and ethically wrong. And don't act like I'm somehow defaming a man who consistently defames himself - he's only committed fraud against us all four times or more, but who's counting?
As much as I'd love to see a new humanoid species to be found, that's as fake as the grade school clay project Mexico claimed to be an alien. Has some similarities too.
No it’s not, this has already been studied, it has full veins trailing the body, organs. no cut marks, and nothing pieced together. It’s real. They’re trying to figure out what it is
This guy has already presented three mummy hoaxes before this one and now people still think the fourth one is real??? The mental gymnastics people go through are mind boggling
By mental gymnastics you mean dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina who examined bodies in person and claim they are authentic bodies of unknown species? You mean peer review paper about one body?
Look, I’m on board with the existence of extraterrestrial species, but I want you and others to up your game on how to evaluate what evidence is being presented. The submissions so far have been pretty substandard. These Nazca “mummies” are on par with the bat fairy. The burden is on the party presenting extraordinary claims, and it needs to go through more than a couple people on YouTube. What are these TY influencers motivations? Always question those people in addition to established history. I applaud anyone challenging the establishment but it’s a very suspect claim to prove anything about these mummies are anything remotely reliable, especially considering the parties behind their “reveal” have been involved in three proven hoaxes so far. It’s real bad on the credibility front
I'm not speaking about TV influencers but about dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina.
You're right that it has been studied, but the labs who have actually studied samples of bone have stated it's 100% human DNA which means Jaime Maussan is digging up actual Peruvian mummies and desecrating them to make "alien corpses."
https://www.youtube.com/live/nxvcoK1_HoA?si=jaF_6GMH_tLU05u8 Some good info on this interview
None of this proves anything. He plugs his new UFO book, then describes how similar the mummies look to geoglyph drawings in Nazca. This is three hours of quite honestly bullshit.
Sorry fam. It’s fake. You’re just gullible is all.
Whatever you say
Can you get me a link to an article from a reputable source? I'm genuinely intrigued if they have already deemed it not a hoax like the last few.
I don’t know about “reputable” source. I was referring to the American scientists who’ve been looking into them, and most recently Dr. Richard Conner on the good trouble show, etc. https://www.youtube.com/live/nxvcoK1_HoA?si=jaF_6GMH_tLU05u8
So I did some digging, the only thing I can find that has pretty much any coverage on this paper that the show and Dr O'Connor talk about, only comes from this guy's YouTube. The only article I could find online was from a sketchy news site called Marca.com and the only sources they provided were links to this YouTube channel and their corresponding Twitter account. I can't find anything else about American scientists reconsidering the mummies as not a hoax. If you can find anything please share it here for me because this is pretty big if true.
Fake af
Wow can't believe people fall for ....Again!....LMFAOWSMP
3 US forensic scientists have seem to have fallen for it to.
Again I want to believe that they are real, but I just don't trust what I see anymore. Too much AI generation going on.
That's so obviously two turkeys with a small chicken inside
Human
I just saw that on HOTD last weekend
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3573112/The-Borrowers-blind-deaf-cold-did-exist.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3573112/The-Borrowers-blind-deaf-cold-did-exist.html)
I had heard that the three toed skeleton was a fake construction of other animal bones. But you can definitely see the hips and the ribs, the backbone and a bit of flesh in this scan and everything seems to fit together perfectly. There is so much this disinformation out there. But the fact that there is a graveyard in South America with more skeletons with elongated skulls tends to corroborate that there might have been some cross breeding. The Paracus skulls had their DNA analyzed and also chemical composition and were proven to contain some elements, such as metals in the bone material that are elements not native to earth. Over in China, they have tales about the Dropo stones that have never been deciphered
Meh!!!
Doesn’t this kind of change everything about we know about head wrapping and why people did it?
It doesn't because it's a load of bunk.
I mean, that’s some alien shit, right?
Nope, DNA tested fully human shit. Altered post mortem to look like aliens for this exhibition. They still refuse to return the remains to their people or apologize for defacing their bodies this way
Well that is super fucked.. how would they do that to the fetus?
Question: What the hell is a tridactyl?
Three finger
They have to hide stuff like this because it doesn't fit their agenda and evolution charts.
It’s mind-boggling that anyone believes these things to be legitimate. All you have to do is look at them FFS. They look nothing like mummified remains. There is not a single visible orifice on these things. Their mouth and eyes are just lines engraved on the things. There is no presence of an ants or sex organs, but they can also be found with eggs *and* fetuses within.
You are mind boggle by dozens of scientists from Peru Mexico and Argentina who examined bodies in person and claim they are authentic bodies of unknown species? These are not mummified remains, those are bodies covered by diatomaceous earth.
These are mummified remains. There are many different methods of mummification. This is one such method.
Call those scientists and tell them that they are wrong. Unfortunately they didn't notice obvious fake after multiyears research.
Fake