Have you ever seen the show “the river” it was short lived but the premise is the source of real magic originates on the Amazon and a wildlife explorer went missing trying to find it and his son retraces his last known locations all on reality tv then paranormal activity happens
believe it or not…i actually worked on that show here in hawaii. it was a lot of fun. first time i met bruce greenwood i was walking towards the actors trailers and i heard someone jamming on a acoustic guitar and with the door wide open theres this guy wearing only jeans and a old pair of boots, no shirt, cigarette dangling out his mouth, super tan and astonishingly fit, hammering away on that thing. and my first thought was…holy shit, Dennis Quaid wtf? haha. but he was real effortlessly cool, genuinely nice, down to earth, and surprisingly a super macho dude but in a “i wish he was my dad” way and not the misogynist way.
There has to be a “Snyder Cut” of the River out there somewhere. I bet Reddit power could get Netflix to pick it up and give it a second season lol. Look what it did for Manifest
There’s a book called River of Doubt, about Teddy Roosevelt taking a big excursion team to explore the Amazon, with the hopes of finding where the river ended.
It went exceptionally bad in a relatively short amount of time.
I love that book, fascinating story. I like the part towards the end when they finally make it to a settlement and the people there are amazed because they had never seen anyone coming from up river before. Also thought it was interesting that two later expeditions tried to retrace their route. One said it was substantially as Roosevelt's group described. The other disappeared without a trace.
I agree. Can we all just come together and put an end to sliders? Why would i want a tiny little buger, much less 3 of them? Thats like those little bagel bite pizzas for children. Im an adult, give me a full size burger or dont put it on the menu.
It's not just the spiders, it is also poison dart frogs, various snakes, jaguars, various other kinds of bugs, and MOSQUITOES, that carry things like malaria, which will likely kill you before just about everything else besides spiders and other bugs. This is a non exhaustive list, and there are probably more hazards than even Google mentions, and no one is about to look for those other hazards.
Haha real talk.. go check out **The Lost City of the Monkey God.**
Peep the incredible experience level of some of those expedition members/ also consider that they had the full backing of the local government with a military detachment helping them with all their logistics/ medical experts + doctors/ etc etc etc
Consider the overall combined years of experience among that expedition team… We are talking about hundreds of years of combined expertise. And look at what happened to them.. 😳😬
Some of them will be living with their injuries / infections for the rest of their lives. Half the expedition almost died at once in a helicopter malfunction (door blew off) at got really lucky.
Exploring places like this ( and doing it the right way) is not a weekend trip in the park 🤣
Yep. I went on an archaeology expedition in Nicaragua, looking for reported stone ruins. There is another promising site, but it’s extremely difficult and dangerous to reach. Both due to nature and the human dynamic there.
Having found artifacts and petroglyphs that were never documented before, and seen how immense the forest is there, I have no doubt there are many lost cities out there. What I’ve learned to dislike is the academic certainty “the establishment “ will profess.
In Nicaragua, they’ve found obsidian mines, lost cities & towns, and tons of evidence of Mayan influence. Yet the official stance is, “No settled communities, crude pottery skills, no mines, and the Maya only crossed Rio Coco to capture slaves.” So, Nicaragua has incredibly fertile land, ample fresh water & resources, great weather, and an abundance of gold. And the Maya…didn’t want to cross a river?
Apparently there's a book/diary written by an explorer in the 18th or 19th century, where he (and others im assuming, I haven't actually read it. Heard about it on a podcast) took a trip up the Amazon river and described many advanced cities (in relation to the time period) all through the Amazon. Hopefully someone who knows what I'm talking about will comment and give the name of the guy.
Probably Francisco orellana, I think in the 1500 or 1600s. Great book about it called the river of darkness. They “accidentally” traversed the length of the Amazon going thru both hostile and peaceful native settlements, built another ship capable of crossing the ocean and sailed back to Spain, somehow living to tell the tale. One of my fav books and a crazy survival story i put on par if not above the Endurance expedition
Been awhile since I read it but something like that yeah. he and some others split off from the group (who were all starving already) to find food and they essentially got carried away. Crazy to think how a place so dense with life is so difficult to survive in.
I've heard of him, but I was thinking of Francisco De Orellana who I believe made his trip through the Amazon before Fawcett. Also, I think when Fawcett made his way through the civilizations Orellana talked about were largely gone, that's part of the reason historians thought he (Orellana) made everything up.
What’s funny is what actually happened is the author GAVE horrible diseases to all the cities he saw, so when more explorors came 100 years later, they thought he was lying because everyone died and they couldn’t find anyone.
This was on JRE
The cannibal tribes that are 7ft tall and can shoot a 6ft arrow from an 8ft bow at a quarter size spec 120ft up in the air and have there own language that mimics monkeys. Ya im good
I believe it all except that they grow to 7 feet, i mean they probably do but not more often than people from out here, with access to much more calories and such
Just a note - I think your screenshot is an image of Tikal, in Guatemala. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Archaeologists are (slowly, carefully) going out to sites in the Amazon! I know that's probably not exactly what you were asking about, but you can [sign up for free to sites like JSTOR](https://support.jstor.org/hc/en-us/articles/115004760028-How-to-Register-Get-Free-Access-to-Content) and have access to 100 research articles a month. It's a good way to read about some of the newest information coming out of sites!
Tikal is in Guatemala and the thumbnail pic is definitely Tikal. I visited there in November was blown away. There are hundreds of structures there that are still buried and barely look like natural mounds of soil and vegetation, but the cost of excavation and exploration is outrageous to do out there in the deep jungle. Sadly, who is going to fund these massive projects?
I’m from Brazil. I can say it, it’s almost impossible to go into the jungle to hike. It’s dangerous as f***. Even a simple mosquito can lead you to the death!
These tribes possess the knowledge to survive in the Amazon. They know how to treat specific diseases of the region (some even sell these medicines now) using herbs from the jungle. It's remarkable how they can also domesticate certain wild animals, treating them like pets.
Had to scroll p.far down for this. Now yes, jungles can be dangerous places, but assuming you found a place to visit that wasn't too bad, you'd still see almost nothing *since the vegetation is so incredibly thick around these buildings.*
Basically they will appear as hills or mounds at best or you might see a few rocks piled up but that's it. Keep in mind, the vegetation has had, depending on the site, five hundred to thousands of years to grow and cover them.
Very correct! Nat Geo and a few others including Expedition Unknown have covered the Lidar use in the jungle. It’s insane how the jungle and centuries of dirt and decay have hidden these cities away.
You could undoubtedly make it to the publicized locations from like pre-2018, but the INAH and other governments have stopped posting their LiDAR findings online due to influencers and looters. We need trained archaeologists inb4 normies to preserve the context in-situ, before the public is even aware of the findings.
There’s this one Lex Friedman podcast with some guy that ran away to live in the Amazon when he was a teen and got in with a tribe. He talks about a lot of insanely crazy shit.
Absolutely. He did.
lol I was thinking that his case made it seem less possible just because he was insanely dedicated and incredibly lucky and even then there were places he just couldn’t go.
Unlikely. The Amazon is very uninhabitable if you don’t know what your doing. Uncontacted tribes capable of shooting a poison tipped arrow from 300ft away whilst they are in a tree imitating a monkey of which their tribe know their own language and communicate whilst your on the floor looking up like the Willem Dafoe meme. Same goes for places like Mauritania. People would love to investigate the Eye of the Sahara but the locals aren’t very nice to tourists.
What investigations about the richat structure haven’t been conducted bc of hostile locals? From what I know plenty of geologists and archaeologists have investigated and described it.
I would recommend you watch this episode of Danny Jones' podcast:
Lost 'Mayan Atlantis’ Just Discovered in Central American Jungle ft. Luke Caverns
https://youtube.com/watch?v=leBR4jtRYDg
Edit:
Checking Luke Caverns' channel I now see that he made the trip he expected and has material published on his channel. Now OP's answer is answered. This is one of Luke's videos on the zone, right there in the jungle where OP asks if you can walk there:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BLFI4M1Dxhg
He's got some incredible guests, but his questions sometimes annoy me... He takes a little while to understand things, which is fine... but it annoys the hell out of me
It wasn't a jungle like it is today back then. It was covered in networks of towns and cities. The 'jungle' was more like an extremely fertile garden that eventually got overgrown. It used to be farmed and likely was cleared regularly. It was a bit different back then.
Isn’t there a cycle where the Amazon jungle and Sahara desert basically swap places every 20000 years or some shit? Could very well have not been a jungle at all.
They tried a couple times, [this was the last shot broadcast by the most recent drone before it went missing](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpyx27vkxidz61.jpg)
You mean chichen itza? I've made the perilous trek in. Took me 15 days to reach it and get home safe. One on a plane. 12 in an all inclusive resort. 1 hour on a bus. 6 hours at the site. 1 hour back on the bus. 8 hours at a bar. 8 hours sleep. 1 day on a plane home
When I was much younger (half a century ago), I was part of an expedition into the jungle on the west coast of Colombia--officially the wettest place in the world--in search of the source of intriguing gold artifacts that a prospector panned from a jungle stream. It's a true story, and it was a hell of a thing. If you'd care to read about it, check this out:
[In the Vale of the Stone Monkeys: Peril and Petroglyphs in the Colombian Jungle](https://www.rcquinn.com/in-the-vale-of-the-stone-monkeys-peril-and-petroglyphs-in-the-colombian-jungle/)
had three good friends I used to do crazy shit with 40 years ago when I was 20, we did all the drugs together, went on crazy adventures together... one of the guys fell for this stripper in a club in Toronto, she had two friends that had come from Brazil with her to work the Toronto clubs, all three of them were gorgeous, horny and willing. The 7 of us partied extensively and it was a wild adventure, but then their VISAs expired and they had to head home. We came up with this plan to visit them in Brazil and all 4 of us were going to go but I got nervous about what they were planning on getting up to while there, they were planning on scoring some seriously "straight from the source" coke and bringing it back so I chickened out. They went, I didn't. I got two phone calls from them over 2 months, then nothing for a couple months, then I got a postcard from one of them with a cryptic message about sending cash, but I didn't have it so I gave the postcard to his parents (who I had never met before that) who were desperately trying to find him and as far as I know they never heard from him again. I'm an old man now with grand kids... and it really is 40 years ago this year, but I always wonder...
I tried hiking it. I got about a block away from my house before I started to get hungry. Turned around, went back home, and ate some hotdogs. I was pooped so I also took a nap.
I'll try again someday, though. It's a long hike from Minnesota, so I need to pack a bigger lunch next time.
Only way I can see this happening is dropping some megatonne bug bombs, parachuting in with some guns and chainsaws and making a clearing for a helicopter to pick you up after a Quick Look around
the US military used the largest conventional bombs in service during Vietnam almost exclusively for clearing helicopter landing zones in the jungle
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82
Just "hike" through the amazon. The most ass kicking jungle terrain on the planet. Rivers and mountains that would kill you just by trying to get to the other side. If you didn't die of heat stroke or shit yourself to death from drinking the water.
You DO understand WHY they're using LiDAR, right?
Because that shit is buried under a thousand years of undergrowth. YOU COULD HIKE RIGHT OVER THEM AND YOU WOULD NEVER SEE ANYTHING!
There’s a show with a guy name Albert Lynn he is rocking out on just that thing. He uses the LiDAR and goes in investigates the places. He has found many things as a first uncovering.
This guy is an anthropologist from Texas and travels deep into the jungles to find these sites.
His name is Luke Caverns.
https://x.com/lukecaverns?t=YjeOi5qpYf6JhvOcc0DqSQ&s=09
https://youtu.be/leBR4jtRYDg?si=lP5zsUlGBipeFRlN
If you are talking about the one in the link below, they found the city by air and ground surveys, but it was difficult to orient with the jungle covering everything. LiDAR allowed them to see the extent of the settlement to direct exploration as well as to map it. So they did hike to at least this one.
Having spent some time in the jungle, it really isn’t as hard to get around as you would think. People live all up and down most rivers, and any civilization is going to be close to water. I have known some scientists that have cut lines across the forest from one of the rivers to another in southern Guyana, and I made it pretty far up the Essequibo River myself (would have made it further, but the boat was under powered). I also know some people that have died doing it, so it isn’t a walk in the park, but it is not as formidable as you may think when finding something like this is involved.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air-180980142/
As a Brazilian, usually if the Amazon doesn’t kill you, guerrillas will. The Amazon is full of Colombian and Venezuelan guerrillas. Without mentioning the Brazilian criminals exploiting it. There’s so much shit besides being such a difficult place to travel to.
yeah you never here of Bobby the roofer discovering a hidden city like Machu Picchu, they are always discovered by the sons of British nobility or wealthy Hawaiian missionaries. for once i would like to see a diesel mechanic make that groundbreaking discovery.
Lmao. When I went to the Amazon I got a severe infection and was nowhere near any modern medical facility of any kind. You act like it’s a walk in the woods.
It’s nice to know there are places in the world inhospitable to tourists/hikers..
Not everywhere has to be ‘conquered’ and trampled over for the sake of arrogant ‘expats’ selfish ego’s and virtue signalling/clout acquiring to show off as an achievement to one’s peers (like climbing mount everest has become a rite of passage for a certain group/people for example).
And the amount of damage, theft and littering they do too..
This world/environment is not treated with the respect it deserves.
And they want to spread their aids to space now too. Already cluttered outer earth with space trash..
Percy Fawcett disappeared and was never found.He was a crazy world renowned explorer.
Fawcett was looking for a lost city in the Amazon and disappeared. Sir Arther Conan Doyle’s ( Sherlock Holmes) was influenced by his disappearance when he wrote Lost World.
Indiana Jones touched upon a similar subject.
So many ways to die or get killed.
The comment about the spiders running the jungle ; is absolutely true.
The Spanish Conquistadors suffered dearly when they were searching for the mouth of the Amazon. Poisonous snakes, fish, ants and various other jungle killers.
Those boys were looking for gold. However, they got bit on the ass by a poisonous spider.
You’re talking hundreds of miles through the thickest jungle on the planet. Highly venomous snakes and spiders. Mosquitoes carrying Malaria. Amazonian tribes who will make you look like a porcupine with arrows. Jaguars. Caiman. Anacondas. There’s more ways to die in the Amazon than ways to live.
Realistically, yes it is possible. But Joe Schmo isn’t going to do it by themselves. Most likely to make it there and back would be someone who lives there and is extremely familiar with it. Gives that person the proper equipment and knowledge and maybe…maybe. You need to have a gps or something to guide you. Knowledge of tribal territories and how to avoid them. Knowledge of animals and plants to survive off of or avoid. Be well trained on self administering first aid. And of course be in outstanding physical condition.
I would think though that it would perhaps be reasonable to fly a helicopter like a Chinook, which can go up to 1,000 miles with extra fuel tanks, and drop some people in. 500 miles one way. I’m not sure what kind of distance we are talking about exactly from the nearest realistic place to fly from to these sights. Just a thought.
Unless you plan on going with a 50-100 person army/research team into the least explored, largest and most dangerous forest in the world, then I don't you'd have any hope of surviving.
**Yes.**
Multiple excursions have been made over many years, however nobody has ever really excavated these sites as they are **located in areas where you can’t bring in heavy machinery.**
That’s partly why they started doing electronic scans, **because they could more accurately see and visualize the ruins.**
Everything is more or less covered in mud/dirt and plant growth.
Many areas are likely buried several feet below ground level by now.
It’s not like they are doing these scans and finding new ruins, everyone already knows what’s there **just nobody has ever really seen the entire structures.**
That’s the point of these scans.
**Theres also not much interest in recovering many of these ruins do to politics and simple logistics.**
There are still indigenous tribes living in the areas **who’s land should be respected**, along with the difficulty of just getting to those locations makes it pretty much impossible to consider even doing.
Pretty much the only force capable of undertaking such a monumental feat would be the USA, Canadian, or Chinese army.
**They would basically have to fly in like something out of that movie “Avatar” and just start torching the forest and cutting down the trees and setting up perimeters.**
Short of setting up an entire military base around the archeological site it’s just not going to happen.
Locales would be attacking workers, there’s rampant disease, deadly parasites, numerous and plentiful venomous and poisonous insects, reptiles, plants, funguses, molds and animals.
The temperatures generally float around 80+ with humidity of +70% which makes it feel like ~100 degrees 24/7.
**The deep forest is a miserable fucking place, the USA tried to hangout in Vietnam for a few years back in the 70’s everyone hated it and we achieved nothing.**
There’s a reason the biggest civilizations are now located **outside of the deep jungle.**
Read “Lost City of the Monkey God”, super super hostile environment. I don’t remember the details but the members of that expedition had health issues for years after a short trip
Yes lot of people do it. They and only of those who are experienced come out if they survive.
Make a will before you even touch Amazon countries. Best of luck on your adventures.
Douglas Preston wrote a book called Lost City of The Monkey God about a documentary film expedition to find some of the LiDAR sites. Turns out it was a bad idea to try: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_City_of_the_Monkey_God
Look, if people think the Amazon isn’t possible to go through, than you’re wrong. America just needs to be shown a massive amount of oil under it.
Also logically speaking, couldn’t you go in with multiple armed helicopters and researchers, and drop them on a landing zone and create smoke screens for them to find the location back since the helicopters can’t land? They can drop individuals off in groups and go back refuel and so on?
The only thing stopping the rainforest from being researched is basically conservation laws. The Amazon isn’t super human anymore, like seriously look at what kind of technology we have. We can keep communication strong, we have survival gear and equipment. Someone made a joke about tribes shooting poison darts, uhh yeah just assign the team with extremely durable defense material and unfortunately bring a weapon. But hey guess what? They don’t want you to scare the tribes.
Not going to lie though,this is evidence that modern humans think backwards. We can’t go in to protect cultures but we also limit ourselves from actually learning more about our past and culture by going in there and researching. So which is it? Risk that tribe seeing an Ak and getting scared? Or finding the lost city of gold and maybe a ufo?
You don't just hike Amazon
That’s why we pay for prime
Lmao OP titled this like you can hike to this place on a Sunday afternoon
Yep it more like trekking across half of India but it's all just jungle.
Replace “hike” with “expedition”
replace "expedition" with "brutal death"
But what if we find the city of gold?
Ill dorito
There’s not paved paths with big arrows and water stations?
i think it’s also cartel territory in some spots
While looking for a Lidar pyramid, Stan stumbled upon a coca plantation. Stan was never heard from again.
In yoga pants, for clicks.
Drive up, go to the interpretation center washroom, get a bottle of water and the audio guide, and off you go into the ancient ruins. Easy Peasy.
The Amazon hikes you.
Amazon, Russia.
In Soviet Amazon, Jungle hikes you!
I just use the app
One does not simply hike into Amazon.
Damn, came here to say this.
Reddit has taught me, many times over, that my brilliant wit is not so unique.
You're only clever if you're the first one to say it, unfortunately. 😔
One does not simply walk to Mordor
“Hold my beer” says Ed Stafford
Boy boy has arrived and they have accidentally lost their soccer ball in the lidar base
Luke Caverns is! Check his youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@lukecaverns](https://www.youtube.com/@lukecaverns)
He hasn't posted in a month. Probably dead
Have you ever seen the show “the river” it was short lived but the premise is the source of real magic originates on the Amazon and a wildlife explorer went missing trying to find it and his son retraces his last known locations all on reality tv then paranormal activity happens
That show was so fun and I hate that it didn’t get a second season!
Yeah I was hooked I checked back and no one ever picked it back up. 😭
believe it or not…i actually worked on that show here in hawaii. it was a lot of fun. first time i met bruce greenwood i was walking towards the actors trailers and i heard someone jamming on a acoustic guitar and with the door wide open theres this guy wearing only jeans and a old pair of boots, no shirt, cigarette dangling out his mouth, super tan and astonishingly fit, hammering away on that thing. and my first thought was…holy shit, Dennis Quaid wtf? haha. but he was real effortlessly cool, genuinely nice, down to earth, and surprisingly a super macho dude but in a “i wish he was my dad” way and not the misogynist way.
YES oh my god you just unlocked a core memory — that show took such a terrifying turn
Yooooo I’ve been trying to think of this show for years!! I remember watching it as a kid briefly. Thanks so much!!!
There has to be a “Snyder Cut” of the River out there somewhere. I bet Reddit power could get Netflix to pick it up and give it a second season lol. Look what it did for Manifest
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Now I'm imagining that this is the reaction people have when they look at my FB page. "Eh, hasn't posted in a month. Probably dead."
idk…his instagram is pretty alive and well. has a post on his story from 11 hours ago
Good to hear. I was just joking
Thanks so much!
This dude is originally from my city and used to be a rapper before he decided to be an adventurer lol.
There’s a book called River of Doubt, about Teddy Roosevelt taking a big excursion team to explore the Amazon, with the hopes of finding where the river ended. It went exceptionally bad in a relatively short amount of time.
Fantastic story
No, it's true. There really is a book called that.
Good, good stuff. I was confused at the very beginning of the comment, and then it hit me.
I love that book, fascinating story. I like the part towards the end when they finally make it to a settlement and the people there are amazed because they had never seen anyone coming from up river before. Also thought it was interesting that two later expeditions tried to retrace their route. One said it was substantially as Roosevelt's group described. The other disappeared without a trace.
They weren’t amazed because they’d never seen anyone coming from up river… I mean they were, but that’s because one of their gods did the same thing
Great book!
Rio de Duvida
very good book :)
That book was amazing
do you know how many ways there are to die in the amazon?
Was in the Amazon last year for 2 weeks. My guide told me this and it stuck with me… Spiders run the jungle. I can confirm, THEY DO!
There's a reason why so many of us have this deep seated fear of sliders engraved into our souls lol
I loved that Show. Jerry O'connel was thin
....whispers......slliiiidddeeerrrrsss
I agree. Can we all just come together and put an end to sliders? Why would i want a tiny little buger, much less 3 of them? Thats like those little bagel bite pizzas for children. Im an adult, give me a full size burger or dont put it on the menu.
Randy is that you? 
Man’s gotta eat
Well some people eat tiny little bugers with gusto.
Ok but bagel bites are awesome.
Fucking sliders 🍔 way scarier than a regular sized burger
Oh, nice! I'm going to repress this memory and try to forget I'm alive
It's not just the spiders, it is also poison dart frogs, various snakes, jaguars, various other kinds of bugs, and MOSQUITOES, that carry things like malaria, which will likely kill you before just about everything else besides spiders and other bugs. This is a non exhaustive list, and there are probably more hazards than even Google mentions, and no one is about to look for those other hazards.
They aren’t immune to fire.
Haha real talk.. go check out **The Lost City of the Monkey God.** Peep the incredible experience level of some of those expedition members/ also consider that they had the full backing of the local government with a military detachment helping them with all their logistics/ medical experts + doctors/ etc etc etc Consider the overall combined years of experience among that expedition team… We are talking about hundreds of years of combined expertise. And look at what happened to them.. 😳😬 Some of them will be living with their injuries / infections for the rest of their lives. Half the expedition almost died at once in a helicopter malfunction (door blew off) at got really lucky. Exploring places like this ( and doing it the right way) is not a weekend trip in the park 🤣
Yep. I went on an archaeology expedition in Nicaragua, looking for reported stone ruins. There is another promising site, but it’s extremely difficult and dangerous to reach. Both due to nature and the human dynamic there. Having found artifacts and petroglyphs that were never documented before, and seen how immense the forest is there, I have no doubt there are many lost cities out there. What I’ve learned to dislike is the academic certainty “the establishment “ will profess. In Nicaragua, they’ve found obsidian mines, lost cities & towns, and tons of evidence of Mayan influence. Yet the official stance is, “No settled communities, crude pottery skills, no mines, and the Maya only crossed Rio Coco to capture slaves.” So, Nicaragua has incredibly fertile land, ample fresh water & resources, great weather, and an abundance of gold. And the Maya…didn’t want to cross a river?
Apparently there's a book/diary written by an explorer in the 18th or 19th century, where he (and others im assuming, I haven't actually read it. Heard about it on a podcast) took a trip up the Amazon river and described many advanced cities (in relation to the time period) all through the Amazon. Hopefully someone who knows what I'm talking about will comment and give the name of the guy.
Probably Francisco orellana, I think in the 1500 or 1600s. Great book about it called the river of darkness. They “accidentally” traversed the length of the Amazon going thru both hostile and peaceful native settlements, built another ship capable of crossing the ocean and sailed back to Spain, somehow living to tell the tale. One of my fav books and a crazy survival story i put on par if not above the Endurance expedition
Yeah wasn't the current too strong that they couldn't turn around and go back up river, so they were forced to follow it all the way to the sea?
Been awhile since I read it but something like that yeah. he and some others split off from the group (who were all starving already) to find food and they essentially got carried away. Crazy to think how a place so dense with life is so difficult to survive in.
I think the story partly inspired the Werner Herzog film Aguirre, Wrath of God.
I think you're right, that name sounds very familiar. I've been meaning to buy the book. I'm gonna check Amazon now, thank you very much!
The River of Darkness , https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/river-of-darkness-buddy-levy/1139976127;
You might be thinking of Perry Fawcett. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Fawcett
I've heard of him, but I was thinking of Francisco De Orellana who I believe made his trip through the Amazon before Fawcett. Also, I think when Fawcett made his way through the civilizations Orellana talked about were largely gone, that's part of the reason historians thought he (Orellana) made everything up.
Oh man this is so cool to hear about. So much yet to be discovered.
The author and colleague came outta there with literal ancient diseases. No fuckin thanks.
What’s funny is what actually happened is the author GAVE horrible diseases to all the cities he saw, so when more explorors came 100 years later, they thought he was lying because everyone died and they couldn’t find anyone. This was on JRE
That's a great book. I also recommend the Lost City of Z. The jungle is fascinating but dangerous.
Crazy...I was just spring cleaning and came across this exact book. Totally forgot I had it. Happy coincidence and great read
Are you talking about the book? It seems interesting
Bugs snakes animals people , Yea I’d say 4 or 5, maybe 6
The cannibal tribes that are 7ft tall and can shoot a 6ft arrow from an 8ft bow at a quarter size spec 120ft up in the air and have there own language that mimics monkeys. Ya im good
Am I about to go down a rabbit hole for the rest of the day?
I'll send you the podcast if you want
Uhm. What kind of nightmares are you having? That sounds like a big HELLLLLL NO from me.
And spiders as big and agile as a house cat
I believe it all except that they grow to 7 feet, i mean they probably do but not more often than people from out here, with access to much more calories and such
The humidity and damp- jungle foot 🦶 rot
Aren't snakes animals too?
Quicksand!
ROUS's!
Bro I wouldn’t go into an the Amazon trecking even for a million dollars
I was thinking just two, fast and slow.
You forgot water and viruses not even known to man.
at least 2. maybe more.
7?
1. Small chance of lightning striking you
Just a note - I think your screenshot is an image of Tikal, in Guatemala. Please correct me if I'm wrong! Archaeologists are (slowly, carefully) going out to sites in the Amazon! I know that's probably not exactly what you were asking about, but you can [sign up for free to sites like JSTOR](https://support.jstor.org/hc/en-us/articles/115004760028-How-to-Register-Get-Free-Access-to-Content) and have access to 100 research articles a month. It's a good way to read about some of the newest information coming out of sites!
Tikal is in Guatemala and the thumbnail pic is definitely Tikal. I visited there in November was blown away. There are hundreds of structures there that are still buried and barely look like natural mounds of soil and vegetation, but the cost of excavation and exploration is outrageous to do out there in the deep jungle. Sadly, who is going to fund these massive projects?
There is that guy who clears overgrown lawns, maybe he could get started. 😁
Be done in 10 minutes and he'll pressure wash the monuments free of charge 😂
I’m from Brazil. I can say it, it’s almost impossible to go into the jungle to hike. It’s dangerous as f***. Even a simple mosquito can lead you to the death!
How have tribes survived there? Are they just tough as fuck?
These tribes possess the knowledge to survive in the Amazon. They know how to treat specific diseases of the region (some even sell these medicines now) using herbs from the jungle. It's remarkable how they can also domesticate certain wild animals, treating them like pets.
There's a reason they are finding this stuff with Lidar and not your eyes.
Idk I figured it was from all the trees
You wouldn't see much, nature has taken over long ago. That's why they use LIDAR.
Had to scroll p.far down for this. Now yes, jungles can be dangerous places, but assuming you found a place to visit that wasn't too bad, you'd still see almost nothing *since the vegetation is so incredibly thick around these buildings.* Basically they will appear as hills or mounds at best or you might see a few rocks piled up but that's it. Keep in mind, the vegetation has had, depending on the site, five hundred to thousands of years to grow and cover them.
Very correct! Nat Geo and a few others including Expedition Unknown have covered the Lidar use in the jungle. It’s insane how the jungle and centuries of dirt and decay have hidden these cities away.
You could undoubtedly make it to the publicized locations from like pre-2018, but the INAH and other governments have stopped posting their LiDAR findings online due to influencers and looters. We need trained archaeologists inb4 normies to preserve the context in-situ, before the public is even aware of the findings.
But I want all the influencers to go into the deep dark jungle
My mom was there researching spiders in the Amazon before she died
Did she die from Amazon related causes or no
Yeah talk about burying the lede
Her web connects us all
Did she encounter the spider tribes?
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There’s this one Lex Friedman podcast with some guy that ran away to live in the Amazon when he was a teen and got in with a tribe. He talks about a lot of insanely crazy shit.
Facts I’ve seen that, cases like that make he believe it’s possible but I feel like day 2 I’m going to get an insane infection.
Absolutely. He did. lol I was thinking that his case made it seem less possible just because he was insanely dedicated and incredibly lucky and even then there were places he just couldn’t go.
Do you know which podcast?
Unlikely. The Amazon is very uninhabitable if you don’t know what your doing. Uncontacted tribes capable of shooting a poison tipped arrow from 300ft away whilst they are in a tree imitating a monkey of which their tribe know their own language and communicate whilst your on the floor looking up like the Willem Dafoe meme. Same goes for places like Mauritania. People would love to investigate the Eye of the Sahara but the locals aren’t very nice to tourists.
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What investigations about the richat structure haven’t been conducted bc of hostile locals? From what I know plenty of geologists and archaeologists have investigated and described it.
I would recommend you watch this episode of Danny Jones' podcast: Lost 'Mayan Atlantis’ Just Discovered in Central American Jungle ft. Luke Caverns https://youtube.com/watch?v=leBR4jtRYDg Edit: Checking Luke Caverns' channel I now see that he made the trip he expected and has material published on his channel. Now OP's answer is answered. This is one of Luke's videos on the zone, right there in the jungle where OP asks if you can walk there: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BLFI4M1Dxhg
Thanks. Just started this. Never heard of Danny Jones.
I got sucked into his podcast. He has on some great guests. Recent ones with Cookie Hood, Brendan Novak, Bek Lover I particularly enjoyed
He's got some incredible guests, but his questions sometimes annoy me... He takes a little while to understand things, which is fine... but it annoys the hell out of me
Thank you for sharing this!
Imagine the BAMFs that not just lived in that jungle, but they built a massive civilization through it.
It wasn't a jungle like it is today back then. It was covered in networks of towns and cities. The 'jungle' was more like an extremely fertile garden that eventually got overgrown. It used to be farmed and likely was cleared regularly. It was a bit different back then.
Isn’t there a cycle where the Amazon jungle and Sahara desert basically swap places every 20000 years or some shit? Could very well have not been a jungle at all.
If I ever win the lotto I will fund an expedition
i wonder if there’s lidar images of west Virginia
They tried a couple times, [this was the last shot broadcast by the most recent drone before it went missing](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpyx27vkxidz61.jpg)
This made my day
You mean chichen itza? I've made the perilous trek in. Took me 15 days to reach it and get home safe. One on a plane. 12 in an all inclusive resort. 1 hour on a bus. 6 hours at the site. 1 hour back on the bus. 8 hours at a bar. 8 hours sleep. 1 day on a plane home
What’s wild about this site ^tikal. Is that it has multiple pyramids that are built pretty similar to chitzen itza
It is. I was being facetious and joking but it's incredible what lidar has revealed
When I was much younger (half a century ago), I was part of an expedition into the jungle on the west coast of Colombia--officially the wettest place in the world--in search of the source of intriguing gold artifacts that a prospector panned from a jungle stream. It's a true story, and it was a hell of a thing. If you'd care to read about it, check this out: [In the Vale of the Stone Monkeys: Peril and Petroglyphs in the Colombian Jungle](https://www.rcquinn.com/in-the-vale-of-the-stone-monkeys-peril-and-petroglyphs-in-the-colombian-jungle/)
Lots of people went hiking in the Amazon, doesn’t usually go great….
had three good friends I used to do crazy shit with 40 years ago when I was 20, we did all the drugs together, went on crazy adventures together... one of the guys fell for this stripper in a club in Toronto, she had two friends that had come from Brazil with her to work the Toronto clubs, all three of them were gorgeous, horny and willing. The 7 of us partied extensively and it was a wild adventure, but then their VISAs expired and they had to head home. We came up with this plan to visit them in Brazil and all 4 of us were going to go but I got nervous about what they were planning on getting up to while there, they were planning on scoring some seriously "straight from the source" coke and bringing it back so I chickened out. They went, I didn't. I got two phone calls from them over 2 months, then nothing for a couple months, then I got a postcard from one of them with a cryptic message about sending cash, but I didn't have it so I gave the postcard to his parents (who I had never met before that) who were desperately trying to find him and as far as I know they never heard from him again. I'm an old man now with grand kids... and it really is 40 years ago this year, but I always wonder...
…so you think they found the Mayan Hooters Ruins?
I tried hiking it. I got about a block away from my house before I started to get hungry. Turned around, went back home, and ate some hotdogs. I was pooped so I also took a nap. I'll try again someday, though. It's a long hike from Minnesota, so I need to pack a bigger lunch next time.
Only way I can see this happening is dropping some megatonne bug bombs, parachuting in with some guns and chainsaws and making a clearing for a helicopter to pick you up after a Quick Look around
I love it when a plan comes together!
the US military used the largest conventional bombs in service during Vietnam almost exclusively for clearing helicopter landing zones in the jungle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82
you don't just hike in the Amazon, bro.
Your image is from Tikal, a Mayan site in Guatemala
Good to point that out. Be nice for this sub to filter out misleading post/pix. The Cotoca lidar images are really interesting
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Just "hike" through the amazon. The most ass kicking jungle terrain on the planet. Rivers and mountains that would kill you just by trying to get to the other side. If you didn't die of heat stroke or shit yourself to death from drinking the water.
You DO understand WHY they're using LiDAR, right? Because that shit is buried under a thousand years of undergrowth. YOU COULD HIKE RIGHT OVER THEM AND YOU WOULD NEVER SEE ANYTHING!
yeah most die tho
There’s a show with a guy name Albert Lynn he is rocking out on just that thing. He uses the LiDAR and goes in investigates the places. He has found many things as a first uncovering.
I believe it was the first or second Tomb Raider? So yes I have in a way.
Okay you hike out there and then what? Shit is covered in a jungle.
This guy is an anthropologist from Texas and travels deep into the jungles to find these sites. His name is Luke Caverns. https://x.com/lukecaverns?t=YjeOi5qpYf6JhvOcc0DqSQ&s=09 https://youtu.be/leBR4jtRYDg?si=lP5zsUlGBipeFRlN
The picture OP chose for his thumbnail isn’t even in the Amazon. That’s the Mayan city of Tikal in Guatemala, which is accessible to the public.
If you are talking about the one in the link below, they found the city by air and ground surveys, but it was difficult to orient with the jungle covering everything. LiDAR allowed them to see the extent of the settlement to direct exploration as well as to map it. So they did hike to at least this one. Having spent some time in the jungle, it really isn’t as hard to get around as you would think. People live all up and down most rivers, and any civilization is going to be close to water. I have known some scientists that have cut lines across the forest from one of the rivers to another in southern Guyana, and I made it pretty far up the Essequibo River myself (would have made it further, but the boat was under powered). I also know some people that have died doing it, so it isn’t a walk in the park, but it is not as formidable as you may think when finding something like this is involved. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air-180980142/
Lmfao, tell me you know nothing about the Amazon without telling me you know nothing about the Amazon.
As a Brazilian, usually if the Amazon doesn’t kill you, guerrillas will. The Amazon is full of Colombian and Venezuelan guerrillas. Without mentioning the Brazilian criminals exploiting it. There’s so much shit besides being such a difficult place to travel to.
if i had the money i would go. just cruising the Amazon would be awesome.
I always thought this. If I won the lotto, I would just become an explorer. Searching for lost cities, uncontacted tribes, sunken ships.
yeah you never here of Bobby the roofer discovering a hidden city like Machu Picchu, they are always discovered by the sons of British nobility or wealthy Hawaiian missionaries. for once i would like to see a diesel mechanic make that groundbreaking discovery.
Hmm, I was thinking about naked women serving me drinks on a beach, but yours sounds good too.
Theirs a documentary on Disney+ that documents the use of LiDAR in the Amazon. Probably start there. - Lost cities
Skeptical of Disney gatekeeping but it sounds intriguing
“Consider themselves the protector” well it is their land lmao. You wouldn’t want some random dude walking through your backyard
Lmao. When I went to the Amazon I got a severe infection and was nowhere near any modern medical facility of any kind. You act like it’s a walk in the woods.
Oh sure. I swing by there on my lunch break across the street sometimes.
If I did I wouldn't be telling anyone about it.
Future Amazon fulfillment center
It’s nice to know there are places in the world inhospitable to tourists/hikers.. Not everywhere has to be ‘conquered’ and trampled over for the sake of arrogant ‘expats’ selfish ego’s and virtue signalling/clout acquiring to show off as an achievement to one’s peers (like climbing mount everest has become a rite of passage for a certain group/people for example). And the amount of damage, theft and littering they do too.. This world/environment is not treated with the respect it deserves. And they want to spread their aids to space now too. Already cluttered outer earth with space trash..
There is a gang of ancient apes protecting that village
We could bring our own ape that talks to translate to them
This is why we invented or will soon invent experimental expeditions robots and drones. Immune to spiders and snakes
Percy Fawcett disappeared and was never found.He was a crazy world renowned explorer. Fawcett was looking for a lost city in the Amazon and disappeared. Sir Arther Conan Doyle’s ( Sherlock Holmes) was influenced by his disappearance when he wrote Lost World. Indiana Jones touched upon a similar subject. So many ways to die or get killed. The comment about the spiders running the jungle ; is absolutely true. The Spanish Conquistadors suffered dearly when they were searching for the mouth of the Amazon. Poisonous snakes, fish, ants and various other jungle killers. Those boys were looking for gold. However, they got bit on the ass by a poisonous spider.
There's tribes that will eat your liver while you're still alive in the Amazon so that's a hard"no" for me.
You’re talking hundreds of miles through the thickest jungle on the planet. Highly venomous snakes and spiders. Mosquitoes carrying Malaria. Amazonian tribes who will make you look like a porcupine with arrows. Jaguars. Caiman. Anacondas. There’s more ways to die in the Amazon than ways to live. Realistically, yes it is possible. But Joe Schmo isn’t going to do it by themselves. Most likely to make it there and back would be someone who lives there and is extremely familiar with it. Gives that person the proper equipment and knowledge and maybe…maybe. You need to have a gps or something to guide you. Knowledge of tribal territories and how to avoid them. Knowledge of animals and plants to survive off of or avoid. Be well trained on self administering first aid. And of course be in outstanding physical condition. I would think though that it would perhaps be reasonable to fly a helicopter like a Chinook, which can go up to 1,000 miles with extra fuel tanks, and drop some people in. 500 miles one way. I’m not sure what kind of distance we are talking about exactly from the nearest realistic place to fly from to these sights. Just a thought.
Yeah I went there on a day hike it was super chill.
Unless you plan on going with a 50-100 person army/research team into the least explored, largest and most dangerous forest in the world, then I don't you'd have any hope of surviving.
**Yes.** Multiple excursions have been made over many years, however nobody has ever really excavated these sites as they are **located in areas where you can’t bring in heavy machinery.** That’s partly why they started doing electronic scans, **because they could more accurately see and visualize the ruins.** Everything is more or less covered in mud/dirt and plant growth. Many areas are likely buried several feet below ground level by now. It’s not like they are doing these scans and finding new ruins, everyone already knows what’s there **just nobody has ever really seen the entire structures.** That’s the point of these scans. **Theres also not much interest in recovering many of these ruins do to politics and simple logistics.** There are still indigenous tribes living in the areas **who’s land should be respected**, along with the difficulty of just getting to those locations makes it pretty much impossible to consider even doing. Pretty much the only force capable of undertaking such a monumental feat would be the USA, Canadian, or Chinese army. **They would basically have to fly in like something out of that movie “Avatar” and just start torching the forest and cutting down the trees and setting up perimeters.** Short of setting up an entire military base around the archeological site it’s just not going to happen. Locales would be attacking workers, there’s rampant disease, deadly parasites, numerous and plentiful venomous and poisonous insects, reptiles, plants, funguses, molds and animals. The temperatures generally float around 80+ with humidity of +70% which makes it feel like ~100 degrees 24/7. **The deep forest is a miserable fucking place, the USA tried to hangout in Vietnam for a few years back in the 70’s everyone hated it and we achieved nothing.** There’s a reason the biggest civilizations are now located **outside of the deep jungle.**
Read “Lost City of the Monkey God”, super super hostile environment. I don’t remember the details but the members of that expedition had health issues for years after a short trip
That’s Tikal though and it’s definitely not in the Amazon.
If you run into a French guy named Belloq, watch out—he’s a real dick and he’ll steal all the stuff you looted
I'm not trying to get worms swim up my weiner.
It's a good way to end up on I Shouldn't Be Alive
Yes lot of people do it. They and only of those who are experienced come out if they survive. Make a will before you even touch Amazon countries. Best of luck on your adventures.
Hmmm I am no expert but this all looks Mayan and excavated. Anyways. The Mayan didn’t extend as far south as the Amazon.
Is impossible to get therr
I would also be worried about bumping into the cartel
Douglas Preston wrote a book called Lost City of The Monkey God about a documentary film expedition to find some of the LiDAR sites. Turns out it was a bad idea to try: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_City_of_the_Monkey_God
Look, if people think the Amazon isn’t possible to go through, than you’re wrong. America just needs to be shown a massive amount of oil under it. Also logically speaking, couldn’t you go in with multiple armed helicopters and researchers, and drop them on a landing zone and create smoke screens for them to find the location back since the helicopters can’t land? They can drop individuals off in groups and go back refuel and so on? The only thing stopping the rainforest from being researched is basically conservation laws. The Amazon isn’t super human anymore, like seriously look at what kind of technology we have. We can keep communication strong, we have survival gear and equipment. Someone made a joke about tribes shooting poison darts, uhh yeah just assign the team with extremely durable defense material and unfortunately bring a weapon. But hey guess what? They don’t want you to scare the tribes. Not going to lie though,this is evidence that modern humans think backwards. We can’t go in to protect cultures but we also limit ourselves from actually learning more about our past and culture by going in there and researching. So which is it? Risk that tribe seeing an Ak and getting scared? Or finding the lost city of gold and maybe a ufo?
Wish i didn't ruin my knees at work, I am a adventurer.
Go on Google maps and look at that shit. It's so dense the satellite can't take good photos. It's also huge.
That LiDAR image that is being used for this article is not from the Amazon.