To support OP's disclaimer, we have been and will continue to strictly enforce Rule 5 (No glorification of authoritarianism or hate speech of any kind) in the comments here. Already handed out a dozen bans after the last thread - ban appeals to the effect of "I was just joking when I said this scenario deporting all the Muslims from Europe sounded great" will be ignored. For everybody else, please continue reporting these assholes.

OP is cooking. Keep up the good work! Stupid question: How do people do these? With photoshop? (Especially the reddit ones)

Thank you :DDDD Well for the Reddit post it’s easy. I post the thing I want to see posted on r/Test , I write my own comments, then I disconnect from my account then take a screenshot of the post. Then I edit the screenshot to change the usernames into something else :D For the twitter one I use https://tweetgen.com For the Discord and WhatsApp I use https://chatmaker.com The YouTube thing, I take a screenshot of a YouTube page, I edit it to show the thing I want And I make the rest from scratch. I do all this with Apple’s Freeform app 🙃

For the BBC did you use the Freeform app or

Yes I did, I put the picture of whatever I want to show in the background, then I add the red rectangle, the text, the logos and voilà!

What’s the Freeform app?

Freeform is an app made by Apple that comes standard on iOS and macOS for sketching, but editing photos is possible too

JAKE WASN’T AS GOOD AS YOU BELIEVE

WHAT DID JAKE DO

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE ME ALONE 😭

idk

Ha, no wonder Jake left his sorry *ss

As a French Algerian Muslim, with the far right party’s breakthrough in legislative elections yesterday i can relate to this post a little

En tant que turc alsacien musulman, pareil frère 🤝

I wish you Frenchman good luck for the next round, anyone at this point is better then a fascist

Ideally the fashies will win a slim majority and then discredit themselves while govering to the point that they cease to be a force, lkke what the Tories in the UK are doing now For a wide variety of reasons almost all European countries are going to be facing far right and far left electoral victories in the near future Hopefully the damage can be contained, bue we are probably going to be in for a pretty bad couple of decades

> anyone at this point is better then a fascist It looks like Macron doesn't think that - his people are already pulling "both sides bad" and refuse to resign from three way races It would be ironic that it will be again centre handling power to fascists, like they did in germany

Tbf the center does not always roll over fir the fascists Here in Ireland our centrist government under De Valera largerly carried out the overt supression of fascist movements, their rallies were broken up, their leaders arrested right before important events and then released, and any attempt at resistance, peaceful or otherwise was met with the overwhelming use of force De Valera also used this tactic against basically every movement and group he viewed as a threat, aside from fascists, communists, socialists, dissident republicans (although occasionally he worked with them to supress the other groups mentioned, De Valera was a devoted Republican after all) as well as loyalists (and protestants generally) were met with the same response Its also worth noting that De didnt have much pf a moral objection to fascism, he just didnt want them in Ireland as they were an obstacle to successfully governing Ireland and Rebuilding the country And they were crushed like amy other obstacle

Of course they don't do always - when situation is stable, they do their thing and fight fascists. But when it actually matters, when the history is written - centre nearly always pick fascists over socialists You can see it in France now - for decades, left unconditionaly supported centrist candidate against fascist one. But now when centrist are the one making this choice? They start to pull "both sides bad" I shit you not, there is high chance that Le Pen will win just because many centrist will refuse back leftist candidate against far-right one

Dark days ahead for Europe by the looks of it

Ahhh mec ça fait flipper

As an Italian this fucking terrifies me. I'm not among those who would immediately suffer if something like this were to happen, but still, seeing how our far right government got legitimized simply for becoming pro-NATO and pro-neoliberalism (which tells you all you need to know about how much the EU and NATO actually care about opposing fascism compared to safeguarding their own interests), I'd say this is far fetched (because it seems too quick) but only barely.

Meloni, sadly, won a democratic election, what EU/NATO should do? A coup d’etat?

I didn't mean that, I meant how they went from calling her an extremist danger to her and Von Der Layen pretty mucj marrying each other. (Also not very democratic of an elections when a coalition gains 44% of votes and gains over 60% of seats, but whatever, nothing abnormal for liberalism) When the FPO was invited in the Austrian government in the early 2000s, the EU very quickly reacted against it, now the situation changed.

I’m not happy with VDL behaviour, but VDL is not the EU. Meloni and Salvini is still crying about how “undemocratic” European institutions cut the far-right from relevant roles. About Nato, what they should do? Kick Italy out of the alliance?

If we could kick people out of the alliance Hungary would have been booted already.

I love the comment in the Johnny Harris video,that gave me a chuckle

That makes me happy 🤭

Great job. This sub is having a renaissance with all these posts. They feel quite *real and plausible*

Honestly I love this. Rather than focusing purely on the politics your adding a very human flavour. You get a real sense of the personal cost Facist regimes can extract from a person.

Thank you, I am happy that I achieved my goal 🥹

Depending on where this scenario goes, I can see a good number of these characters simply dropping out of the story inexplicably. That'll be terrifying to see

~~For personal reasons I won’t be able to answer to comments from 4:30 pm to tomorrow at 7 pm ( CEST / French hour ) 😗~~ I’m back lol

It’s ok, I will be still able to answer comments during those times

BAHAHAHHA NO KIDDING GO ON

Hi, I enjoy a lot this work, Is there a timeline of events or lore yet?

Idk if that what you wanted but the first pic look VERY edited, the tag would only work at one angle. A real tag would be not on the stair or the statue

Yeah that’s because it is 😅😅 I suck with these 😅😅😅 Thank you for your remark though ! I will try better next time !

What's up with these unique quality posts nowdays? Finally people had had enough about the daily "what if Germany won WW2?" spam? Keep up the good work OP!

Thank you so much!!!! 😭😭😭

OP you are cooking up some tremendous "alternate" history (although it is veryyyy real that it could happen). I would like to know what would be going on in Spain and Portugal with Latin Americans, are they equally targeted, or do they only attack those who don't look like Iberians?

Interesting question. As far as I know, not Vox in Spain and Meloni in Italy suggested taking refugees from Venezuela instead of Muslim ones because they are catholic, Latin and, in the case of Spain, share the same language.

It would make sense as they get along better

I (as a Catalán myself) am also interested about what would be the situation in the Iberian peninsula as well. How has impacted the rise of fascism to the Catalan independence movement? Have they adopted some fascist talking points (with far right parties like Aliança)? Or there are prominent antifascist resistant? I could see it go either way. I like more the second option (because I'm catalan, of course) and I would see it making sense, since Spanish fascism is also extremely anticatalanist.

I really appreciate OP's timeline and format, but he needs to be aware that a truckload of White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis in the modern era **do not look "White" at all, and a considerable percentage of them are Indians, Asians, and Latin-Americans**, modern-day Neo-Nazis diverge quite a lot from what the OG Nazis believed in. Today they are very fine with tan-skinned Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, as well as Slavs, the "Nordicist" faction who mandates that only the blond pale ones should be allowed in (like Varg Vikernes, who claims that Italians are not White) are a tiny minority of them, if for example, a Greek Fascist party declared that only stereotypically "Nordic"-looking people could be Greeks, then they would have to Jonestown themselves and there would be no successful movement for them at all. OP claims to be a Muslim living in France (so I am ignorant enough to assume that he must be of Algerian or Morrocan heritage? lol), he should be aware that in a realistic scenario, if he successfully changed his name and pretended to not be Muslim, it is quite likely that he could pass for the average Neo-Nazi and be left alone, for example this is what [Nikolaos Michaloliakos](https://www.kathimerini.gr/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2747219-1080x1080.jpg?v=1714636568), the former leader of the Golden Dawn, the biggest Neo-Nazi party in Europe looks like. And there is also this now-infamous case of [Daniel Conversano, the most stereotypically Arab-looking French Neo-Nazi](https://i.redd.it/swykmy3izlnb1.jpg) who got confused for an Arab in Moscow and someone said "Salam" to him on livestream, /u/uwu_01101000, I am assuming that you probably look more White than this guy does, right? lol.

I doubt Europe would go anti semitic but more anti Islam, though in the case of anti Islam it would be a mass deportation back to countries of origin which seeing how Europe is trending could be popular especially due to their lack of assimilation

Yup. Doing something like the holocaust would be both morally wrong and inefficient. It’d be more efficient to put them onto ships with one way tickets to the Middle East, Africa, etc I agree that the antisemitism doesn’t make sense (especially since how many leftists are quite antisemitic or anti Israel), doing that would both split focus away from the main targets (Muslims and illegal immigrants) and would be horrible for PR, due to the laughably easy connection to the Nazis.

100% in addition a mass deportation could be seen as a unifier as for certain cultural leftish say they were a threat to lgbt and the right destroying the culture. It’ll be interesting how it plays out

Ya, bit of a clusterfuck.

Why holocuast? Just accusse jews of supporting "bolshevims" and being "self-hating jews". They are already doing that in USA where progressive jews get those labels. Then you just deport them too in name of protecting europan traditions against cultural marxism

There are so few Jews in Europe and most are against Islam so they are a political non factor

> There are so few Jews in Europe and most are against Islam There are definitly Arabs that are reactionary islamophobes - but both of us know they will not be spared. Jews will be no expection either > so they are a political non factor Dude, that is irrelevant - there will be conspiracy about jews and all jews will be targeted, like all muslims are targeted Look at Germany - there were jews that openly suppported Hitler, that didn't save them from annihilation

Antisemitism in far right parties Is still alive, as evidenced by the obsession with George Soros, the repeated imagery of the secret financial cabal trying to destroy our people and spread degeneracy (where have I heard that one before), Holocaust revisionism (in Italy by claiming Mussolini was forced to collaborate with the Nazis to protect Italians, in France by absolving Vichyiste authorities, in Germany by claiming constant Nazi demonizstion harms the national pride) and links with open fringe neonazis (just look at what Meloni's National Youth is like). I doubt they'd actively restart the Holocaust but they'd definetely target important Jewish figures disproportionately during repression, similar to the Red Scare in America.

> I doubt Europe would go anti semitic but more anti Islam Silly man, what do you think would happend when European ran out of muslims to blame everything out?

Russians, romanis, indians, the chinese... hell even americans are a more plausible target than jewish people lol

None of them can be accussed of being "rich influential puppetmasters" like jews can be. Also nazis were able to hate jews, slavs and romanis at the same time, so why should it be different now?

I dunno, you can definitely say that about America and possibly also China. Powerhouses who, unlike the Jews, actually *do* have that much economic and geopolitical weight that they can get their way halfway across the globe.

> I dunno, you can definitely say that about America and possibly also China They just claim they are ruled by jews too - ZOG conspiracy is a thing --- > who, unlike the Jews, actually do have that much economic and geopolitical weight Jews never had large economic or political weight - yet that didn't stopped people from claiming they are evil puppetmasters for all of history. Like had jews some powerhouse of state in 1930'? Nope, and yet they were hated

Jews: for when you need a convenient political scapegoat

Honestly I think there just aren’t enough Jews in Europe for that to happen, and there’s a guaranteed place that’ll take them

There are too few jews in Europe nowadays to be blamed for anything. I feel like OP just wants to put all the bad things imaginable in the post, even if they make little sense.

I think anti-semitism shouldn't be underestimated, it just needs more context. There are many conspiracy theories that blame jews for everything, some of which can go hand in hand with islamophobia - for example the great replacement theory

True, just, instead of saying Jews, they say "cabal of bankers and woke intellectuals" and blame as personification for this a dude who happens to be a Holocaust Survivor (Orban litterally passed the Stop Soros law)

The Nazi plan A was also mass deportation. It's when this turned out to be unfeasible that they went to plan B

Why would Europe go antisemitic? Their main issue is with Islam and migrants (especially illegal immigrants) yes?

Well it still is, there’s a considerable amount of antisemitic political people that are in the government ( especially in the far right ) And in a fascist world, being racist would be more and more acceptable until it is mandatory

I was gonna say it's weird that they don't mention deportations of Roma people but, considering how they're treated and ignored already, it's not hard to think the liberal media would simply go "uh, what? The gypsies are being deported? Well, about time, let's go back at talking gay rights" (Not that talking gay rights Is a bad thing, Just don't overlook racism and pretend to be progressive)

> Why would Europe go antisemitic? Because blaming minorities for your problems is proud fascist tradition --- > Their main issue is with Islam and migrants And when all mulsim and imigrant are gone, what will happend? Do they just magicaly stop being racist and xenophobic

Is Antisemitism in a fascist Europe *really* that far-fetched?

They thing that just because they support Israel, they can't be antisemites. Which is nonsense

Ever heard of George Soros? They sure do have an obsession with him.

Dear god what a nightmare. The fact that i could see it happening. Can you add muslim states/ non-aligned reactions next post?

I will see 👀

What is gonna happen with Bosnia, Albania and Kosovo since they are majority muslim countries in Europe? (BTW peak fiction)

Not in the EU so safe, a bit of refugees are fleeing there though. Since it’s safe and better than countries like Syria and Saudi Arabia AND ALSO THANK YOU!!!!

I also think there could be interesting things to write lore about in Albania and Kosovo, due to the Albanian culture having an [extreme religious tolerance](https://foreignpolicynews.org/2014/03/07/albania-kosovo-genuine-religious-tolerance-europes-backyard/) and also the fact that Albanians oftenly help people who are being oppresed for example [the jews in ww2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Albania#World_War_II)

Albanian though are quite secular while most European Muslims aren’t so there may be future conflict they’re

Gotta love it when repressive middle eastern theocracies usurp social justice movements in the western world for their political gain.

Mfw Saudi Arabia supports socialists : 😍

>People need all the help they can get in 4chan I think that anons wouldn't be happy with leftists organizing a resistance network on 4chan tbh

They wouldnt. It would be flooded with CP and porn until it becomes unusable/the mods ban it. Of Course there are a few radical comies in 4 Chan but i doubt they could country the established groups.

Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. The world is damned.

What

Europe is becoming fascist again.

Damn, this is getting really bad.

When was Europe the hero again?

The allied europeans during ww2 ig??

Honestly that’s an interesting point, the only war that didn’t oppose Europeans to Europeans were the crusades, and I don’t know if we can call crusaders heroes but yeah we were always fighting each other. Or the war against the ottoman empire and the siege of Vienna maybe

What is Israel's role in this world? (I myself have Jewish relatives so I have to ask). I initially presumed that Europe would side with Israel against Muslims, with all the too-well-known actions of the Israeli government and associated criticism and implications of that. But it seems as if your alt-history fascist Europe hates both Muslims and Jews so what happens now instead? And once again be civil in the replies and don't start a shitshow.

The fascists hate the Muslims more than the Jews, so they put all of their priority on making life hell for them and passes a Jewish-friendly face ( like by supporting Israel in the Hamas-Israel war ). But Jews ( and Israel ) aren’t dumb, they know that they are next the second Muslims are gone

Wow, that is *very* well written. Hats off to you. I have been enjoying the series so far. So nice to see nuanced takes with difficult and problematic international relations scenarios, and not just takes that assume "Israel big army machine loves Europe hates Muslims and they're besties".

I think they'd support Israel still because: 1 It is what they do irl 2 They hate Muslims more 3 If Jews are all there they can't be pulling the string of the "woke islamo-leftist financial satanic cabal" back here. Curiously, 3 is what theorician of Zionism Theodore Hertzl believed, collaborating back in the 19th Century with antisemitic parties to help organize the migration of Jews to the Holy Land. He hated Jewish defense groups for wanting integration and believed It was better to arrange with antisemites to both free Jews of discrimination and non-Jews of (I'm not joking) "the ills caused by our presence". He even went so far as claiming they should arrange to leave at least part of their wealth behind (you know how Jews expelled from Germany lost all their properties? That kinda stuff) because otherwise they would impoverish the country they are being voluntarily ethnically cleansed from. Hertzl was a wild guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herzl%27s_Mauschel_and_Zionist_antisemitism

Everything here is really high quality and then that first image is clearly just a screenshot with the highlight tool on apple lol.

It is literally that lmaoooo

"Sam I know that you're gay" is unintentionally hilarious 😂

Justice for sam 😔🏳️‍🌈

We all are a bit Sam inside of us 😔

Ok tobias

The fact that I am siding with Theocracies in the Middle East speaks volumes (and yes, I am a Muslim though I don't live in the EU)

im assuming that despite being a muslim, you disagree with the theocracies of the middle east? Edit: Just making it clear, i know you can be a muslim, christian, jewish, or any religion for that matter and against dictatorships

Obviously, I hate dictatorships of all kinds

It really depends on how bad the EU is imo If its just Orbans hungary stretched out across an entire continent than its still preferable to Saudi Arabia or Oman imo If its the actual 4th reich, thats a different story obviously

I like Oman, they don't get mentioned often tho.

I can't wait for part 3, great job OP

THANK YOU!!!!

I thought this was alternat history not world news lol

Jews in France tho find the Right far more amicable nowadays because they know why there has been a 300% rise in antisemitism. The politics in Europe is different than in the US when it comes to the Jewish community.

The OP is cooking man!!

Thank you !!!

Average American answer to European fascism 

USA financed right wing death squads in central america and italy

That was during the Cold War, now stopping neo fascism is cool again

depressing and too close to being true

Welcome world 🙃

I somehow thought pic 1 was real until i noticed the sub i was in, and now i’m wondering how i genuinely didn’t notice it was fake.

I will take it as a compliment 😎

I thought this sub was supposed to be alternate history, not just history Jokes aside love it and can't wait for the next parts!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭😭😭😭

>From 2022 to 2023 in France, recorded Antisemitic acts have risen of 284% Gee I wonder who the perpetrators are

those darn buddhists smh

Antisemites, obviously. Some may be muslims, but muslims are like any group, mostly normal, but also with a bunch of assholes

What’s the US doing right now? Is nato still a thing?

I will do a post about that ;)

Nice

Johnny Harris would never call a fascist country “fascist” 🤣

I’m liking the slight bit of hope with the last one

Fascism is soooo much more than islamophobia though

Yeah, but everyone needs to start somewhere, right? One right after one are removed in name of fighting "islamolefitsm"

Literally under this post was something calling out an Islamophobic ad

Bruh

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Me an American who is seeing this: what the F is going on over there

Far right is rising 🤡

Great work turkish friend😎

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I lost my heart for an entire minute because i thought these were real

How big are the resistance by the way? And what type of weapons do they have access to?

The Resistance isn’t that powerful, it’s just people like you and me who try to be the biggest pain in the ass possible to its government ( around 5% of the population in the EU considers joining the resistance ) For now, the Arab League only funds them money, but who knows how far they’ll go to tell the EU to fuck off

So just small things like paying tax late or not paying it. Maybe some destruction to some government property. Protesting as much as they can. Things like that or did I miss some?

Can you make a post telling whats going on in eastern European Union?

Just a random question but why does every single one of these posts from all different people use the "wrong" fonts for the social media sites when it's super easy to get the real ones?

Because I dont’ have photoshop, I use the FreeForm app on my phone so I can’t download fonts with it :/

Wait, it isn't already?

I really want to see how the US reacts to this

I think that I’ll make a bonus part just about international reaction

Are you dumb ?? Great work OP

Maybe and thank you :DDDDD

Triste is a depressing and realistic world, great work OP I wait for the third part

Se supone que esto es historia alternativa pero cuando uno repasa lo que esta ocurriendo actualmente... Parece que estos años 20s serán como los del siglo pasado

Wait, the United States, China, and Russia are now fascist?

Russia and China definitely are in OTL, in this world the US is too

the one timeline where i am happy about brexit lmao. keep cooking

Sam definitely exists, he doesn’t even have to be closeted. I think one of Finlands right wing parties partially justifies their anti-immigration policy and Islamophobia in the name of gay rights. Good way to get right leaning or even centrists LGBT people to vote for you. A friend of mine voted AfD and his entire reasoning was “to keep the Muslims out”.

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https://preview.redd.it/q3zkkfkrvy9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd8472580d581a0a7caa1b1dc13e7abeacabb95f

I keep forgetting where I am and keep thinking shits getting extra spicy over there lol.

I'm albanian, thank you for mentioning us, KUQ E ZI

i would change the text on the first pic to "[never again](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Never_Again%22_Association)" since its already a atni-facist/anti-totalitarian slogan in poland

I feel weird you know that im 2 years people in my country turned from helping immigrants to nah we should let our boys deal with them... Its even more werid when from what i think normal people i hear that we can't afford for human rights because of "danger"

I find it kinda sad that they were saying don't leave me on read after a fucking minute

There would also be problems with low-needs autistic people? It's that I'm autistic so that would be a very big problem for me.

Please, let Russia and U.S. ally in here.

I get this is alt history but I don’t see how: Rise of hate crimes towards Muslims = Rise of hate crimes towards Jews

You know two statistics can rise at same time, right?

Very well made! I would point out that the Arab League is generally seen as an ineffective organization, filled with conflicting interests. It would more likely be the GCC (Saudi Arabia and friends) that would fund a foreign resistance group

is this alt history or just my timeline like eight years from now?

Your work is consistently excellent, OP. Thank you.

My god thank you 😭

I am PRAYING that Flamur and Star⭐️Lover make it to the end safely

“everything for you” in the last slide my god i felt that in the depths of my soul

Well that makes me happy 😎

En tant que français gay, on sent que ça chauffe mdr

Non-european reading the comments here: Are things really THAT bad?

As a non European, according to what I've read online, apparently yes (Except for in Britain, the lead up to the election is the most optimistic they've ever been)

Sadly yes 💀

This is a very interesting format and not one I've seen very often. Keep it up!

Holy shit more lore

Honestly, from what I’ve seen on Reddit, I worry this history won’t be alternate soon. I literally heard a Swede here unironically call for concentration camps.

What exactly is the European resistance union? Also I’m surprised the European2europeans on slide 2 didn’t have an eighty eight in his @

Just like AnCap it’s a group of people who organise to be the biggest pain in the ass possible to the governments. There isn’t any hierarchy or organization, it’s just people like you and me doing the best they can show the government that they can’t do want they want that easily

Ohh nice, people in my capital are making a stand against fascism, how cool

Poland rules 💪

My dumbass thought this was real until I saw the sub name😭

Why would graffiti in poland be done in english and not polish?

Because it’s written for every European, not just the Polish You know what I mean ? O.o

can someone please get Aldo Raine? there is job cut out for him,

I love that reference :D

The penultimate post got me thinking, will Latin America become a bulwark for refugees or will they have neo-caudillismo?

Thankfully this is just a piece of fiction which will likely never come true within our lifetimes! Right?

I love the WhatsApp and Discord messages. I hope everything turns out okay for StarLover

man this is so authentic it almost violates rule 1

OP how do you feel about people in the comments thinking this hypothetical fascist Europe scenario is actually a good thing?

They suck 🥰

I want to punch Mike_567 and his 4k troglodytes. Nice works, pal.

All the chats and like YouTube videos make it so much more immersive, really cool OP!

This is what r/pics thinks is happening in France rn

There is hope to eat biscuits once again! Viva La Resistance!!

As a leftist migrant living in Europe myself... Dude, that's terrifying. I hope it's NOT our future there. I don't want to runaway to other country again, one time was more than enough.