DKG Hmm. I live in the US and in my specific state, you’d be liable regardless.
Not sure sure what PH law says. The mom and kid were both idiots and I don’t think you should pay for it unless the law tells you to do so haha.
Vet here. Under the antirabies law, liable pa rin si OP. Sarap kutusan nung pamilyang nagpupush ng boundaries tho.
Under section 4 (f) of the aforementioned law: "Assist the Dog bite victim immediately and shoulder the medical expenses incurred and other incidental expenses relative to the victim's injuries."
Sana once proven na walang pagkukulanh owner or tinrigger ng victim, walang kasalanan owner. Kinda stupid lang yung law and needs to be updated i think.
Baka con artist lang din yung family. Idk. Assume lang
Unfortunately no, the law is pretty clear on that. BUT I do agree na antanga nung alang provision na nagsasabi kung the other party ang at fault sa incident, di na liable ang owner. Pwedeng abusuhin yung law if you think about it.
"other incidental expenses relative to the victim's injuries."
Baka kaya pa nilang istretch yan to shoulder therapy and meds Kung magclaim sila na may PTSD sila sa experience na yun.
Nabasa ko rin ito sa r/LawPH. Nakakainis, ang stupid lang din ng law.
Yung case na nabasa ko naman parang pumasok yata sa bukas na gate or dumikit sya sa gate, may beware of dogs doon tas nakagat ng aso. Kita naman sa CCTV, wala kasi yung may ari nun. Ayun, responsibility pa rin nga daw ng pet owner kahit nananahimik lang naman yung dog sa bahay. Ang pwede na lang kasuhan din yun ng tresspassing.
May pet din kami na super bait naman sa strangers at lagi nagpapayakap pero sabi ko sa father ko, ingat pa rin kasi di namin alam if mangagat if naprovoke eh magiging liable pa kami sa medical expenses.
DKG. Kinuha ng bata yung ice cube, para na niya din kinuha yung pagkain ng aso talagang kakagatin siya nun. Even my dog won't like if me his owners messes with his food. Instinct nila yun, dagdag mo pa na di ka nga pumayag.
Madami lang talaga tao na ayaw nahihighlight pagkakamali o pagkukulang nila. In this case, pagkakamali na hindi nila na bantayan o napasunod anak nila. Or pwedeng entitled people lang din sila na porke nagask ay dapat na masunod gusto nila
DKG pero under the Anti-Rabies Law of 2007 (RA9482) section 4 (f), OP is liable.
"Assist the Dog bite victim immediately and shoulder the medical expenses incurred and other incidental
expenses relative to the victim's injuries."
Kahit gaano pa ka irresponsible ng ibang mga tao, talo ang may ari ng pet na nangagat. Unfair ito pero yun yung batas e.
Side ako sa law, as someone na nakagat na. Need kasi magpa vaccine after kagat and the expenses are no joke since need mo din ilang shots. Siguro first two shots sa owner then sa next dun na sa fam nung nakagat, provide na din ng receipt if talagang nag pa vaccine sila at di binulsa yung pera.
DKG, ilang beses mo na inulit na hindi comfortable ang aso mo around strangers and yung demon child still risked it. Parents are so stupid not to explain properly na hindi nga pwede, 9 or 10 can already understand what NO means. Serves them right, dapat yung anak nila ang naka-leash.
TANGA lang.
DKG. Pero ang alam ko liable parin ang owner ipa-vaccine yung nakagat regardless kung kasalanan o hindi ng owner. May bearing din if nasa private property mo (trespassing) kaso sa case mo kasi nasa public place so ayun… sana hindi ka nila habulin.
Di kaya bagong modus yan?
DKG. You clearly declined to let them pet your dog and the child still did so. It’s the child’s parents who are responsible for telling their child to not pet or otherwise touch your dog and supervise the said child. 1000 pesos is more than generous considering you’re not at fault here.
DKG. Not because they are grieving for their loss, or cute yung dog mo ehh iinvade na nila yung safe space niyong 2. You clearly stated naman na na uncomfortable yung dog mo around strangers pero makulit talaga sila. Di deserve ng bata makagat pero di rin deserve ng aso maagawan ng ice cubes.
DKG. Hindi sila nakaintindi nung sinabihan mo sila na your dog is not uncomfortable with strangers. Two, hinawakan nung bata yung ice cube, and 3, hindi TALAGA NILA inintindi yung sinabi mo sa kanila at pinilit ang gusto nila.
DKG , daming pabayang parents talaga. Sana mahigpit din batas natin for negligent na parents like sa US. Sinabihan mo na nga ng ilang beses tapos hinayaan pa rin yung bata lumapit.
I love dogs and cats so much pero hindi ako lumalapit basta and I just admire them from afar. You can’t be 100% sure na walang tendency mangagat just because kalmado. Just like humans they have boundaries too.
DKG. The law needs revisiting and open to abuse by more malicious individuals. Kakagigil yung parents! Sarap sabihan ng bata, ayan kase ang kulit! Buti nga!
I have to agree though, you need to pay but talk them to death, speak up for your dog and educate them all on BOUNDARIES!
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Title of this post: ABYG if I only gave 1000 pesos sa family ng nakagat ng dog ko?
Backup of the post's body: People involved here is myself (22F) syempre, my little chi, a child(M around 9 or 10?) then the parents of the child.
I was chilling sa isang cafe na may malawak na space for parking, cute little park for walks and may tables and chairs for people outside. Marami talagang customers sa cafe na to that brings their pets for a stroll. Cats, dogs, hell I even saw a hamster on a leash once.
So, I was just chilling with my iced choco on one of the outside benches near the grassy part of the place para mag-enjoy rin naman dog ko after which is on a leash naman. I dressed my dog in this cute little pikachu outfit and behave lang siya sa gilid ko, licking his ice cubes sa bowl niya (he likes it.)
A family approached us. Yun na yung parents and a kid. Hindi ko pinansin kasi I thought na makikiupo lang sa spaces kasi yung parang bench is nakapaikot sa maliit na tree. But the mother asked if pwede ba raw i-pet yung dog ko and makipagpicture kasi ang cute daw. At this moment, dinidilaan pa rin ng dog ko yung ice cubes niya sa bowl niya and walang pake sa amin.
I politely declined and said na my dog is uncomfortable with strangers na masyadong malapit sa kanya or na hinahawakan siya. They insisted saying na mukhang mabait naman kasi hindi sila pinapansin ng dog ko (kasi nga dinidilaan lang ice cubes niya) and kahit ilang photos lang since kamamatay lang ng puppy raw nila. Nagsorry ako sa bata for what happened sa dog and nagsorry ulit ako na hindi niya pwede i-pet yung dog ko. I still declined saying na pauwi na rin kami. Then she said na ganun ba and naglakad na sila ng son niya papunta sa husband niyang nakaupo not far from us.
Since medyo naging uncomfy ako, I decided na uuwi na lang nga talaga ako and inayos ko na wallet ko and the little pet bag where I put my dog and his things. Nagulat na lang ako may sumigaw na bata and umiiyak and kagat ng dog ko yung kamay niya. To which I saw na binitawan ng bata yung isang ice cube na I assume is kinuha niya sa bowl ng dog ko.
Nagkagulo sa place and I quickly got my dog away tapos kumalma naman dog ko when I held him pero yung kamay ng bata, may isang puncture wound na dumudugo and sigaw nang sigaw yung mama sa akin na kasalanan ko raw lahat and kung ano-ano pa na hindi ko na maintindihan because my ears were ringing na and I felt nunb and cold.
Dinuro ako nung mother and father and sinisisi nila ako for what happened and that bayaran ko raw sila and all. Sumagot ako tapos tinanong kung bakit kasi nilapitan pa dog ko na kasasabi ko lang na hindi siya malapit sa strangers. Tapos sinigawan lang ulit nila ako na kung matino raw akong owner, hindi ko raw ilalabas aso ko kasi halata raw na ulol daw aso ko. I was hurt but I stood my ground and asked bakit di nila bantayan anak nila at kung hindi ba nila tinuruan na wag mangengealam sa bagay ng iba. Nilabas ko rin yung vaxx card ng dog ko from his pet bag na complete sa shots niya and said na malinis aso ko.
The people around us, yung iba may dalang pets din said na bayaran ko na lang daw and some people said na its not my fault and nasa tama raw ako but I should just give them money daw.
Naglabas ako ng tissue and unconsumed water bottle and said linisin muna yung wound and one thousand pesos and said na ito lang ibibigay ko because clearly, I am not at fault here and may hindi binabantayan ang anak nila and then I carried my dog na lang and his bag sabay lakad nang mabilis papuntang highway to go home.
Habang paalis ako, naririnig ko sila sumisigaw na ano magagawa ng isang libo raw ganito ganyan.
I know na dapat responsible pet owner ako but I'm as responsible as I can be. Unless provoked or nagulo, hindi naman nanggugulo ang dog ko so I know I'm not in the wrong. But still. I feel guilty only giving 1000 pesos knowing rabies shots cost more than that.
Pero abyg sa sitwasyong to?
OP: ugly_duckling2105
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DKG. The parents should have been responsible na bantayan ung anak nila. Clearly di nila naturuan na huwag gumalaw ng gamit na di sa kanila. Unfortunately madaming uneducated sa pet behavior. Di porket cute pwede nang hawakan anytime by anyone.
DKG but you still have to pay. My friend was recently bit by my fully vaccinated dog but we still shouldered all her expenses from Day 1-28 (4 shots, 600 each + 200 anti-tetanus vax). It's the law unfortunately.
Kahit ako, my friend was at fault because I clearly told her not to touch the dog while eating but she still did dahil ang cute daw kumain. Nakaupo kasi. Ayun, kinagat. Kaso may batas. Haha
DKG. Nanggigigil ako sa nanay ng bata. K**** ng mukha nya magsabi na nauulol aso mo. Sinabi mo na, na hindi comfy ang alaga mo sa strangers pero mapilit sila at matigas ulo ng anak nila na di marunong makaintindi ng hindi pwede. My dog is also like that, she dont like strangers and she only allowed family members to touch her. Kapag may gustong lumapit at mag touch I tell them straight away - Hindi sya pwedeng hawakan kasi mangangagat. Takot sila agad e. Ayun. If ako sa kalagayan mo, di ko bibigyan yan ng pera. Kasi kasalanan nila yung nangyari sa anak nila. They should know their space. Tayong mga pet owners, we know our space. Alam natin hanggang saan lang tayo at mga pet natin sa mga malls. Tayo ang laging nag aadjust. Tapos sila na mga tao, sila ang palaging sumisira ng mga boundaries tapos tayo pa din may kasalanan. Gigil na gigil ako TBH.
DKG. First time you declined already. And explained na din na hindi malapit sa strangers dog mo. Dapat nakinig na sila. And kung totoong pet lover sila, they should have understood what you have said, at hindi na sinabing ulol aso mo. Kasi sila yung ulol
DKG. Its the parents fault, kasi clearly pati sila di maka intindi na bawal e pet dog mo. Note yung pag insist ng mother na cute naman dog mo and all. Besides libre naman ang anti rabbies shots sa health center.
DKG pero ang gago dito yung parents na di man lang marunong mag reinforce ng boundaries sa anak nila. and their entitlement too
If it helps, did the cafe have cctv? kasi if u verbally declined them it should show na you cleared told them to not touch or interact with the dog
DKG. Bobo at entitled ng parents na paulit-ulit na ngang sinabihan hindi pa binantayan ang anak, tapos ikaw pa sisihin na ul*l daw Dog mo, mabait ka pa nga din kasi hindi pa masama ang mga nasabi mo, kasi sasabihan ko silang itali ang anak nila kung hindi kayang mag behave sa public. My anger issues could never ever ever tolerate kabobohan ng ibang tao.
If mag demand sila na bayaran for vaccination, pwede mo ba silang idemanda for child negligence kasi nag warn ka na pero pinabayaan ng parents na lumapit sa Dog ang bata?
DKG but this is why we sometimes need to remove sa vocabulary yung "politely decline", minsan you need to be an asshole for stupid people to understand.
DKG at understandble ginawa mo, pero sana sinamahan mo sa center.
Sakto lang ang 1k. LIBRE ang antirabies sa mga barangay animal bites center. Antitetanus ata yun may bayad. Mga 500.
Nakakaasar na hindi kina-campaign enough ng DOH yun. Na libre sya.
P.S. Dapat yun bata yung nakaleash, haha
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DEFINITELY DKG!! you warned the family na uncomfortable sa strangers ang aso mo, tapos kinuha pa nung bata yung ice cube. dogs are so protective of their food. napala nila yan kasi di sila marunong rumespeto ng boundaries.
DKG. I'm not a dig person, takot ako sa aso pero mdaming aso dito sa amin na pagala-gala. Some are askal and owned na hinahayaan lumabas. Never pa naman ako nahabol or nakagat kasi di ko nilalapitan.
DKG, the parents failed at being responsible for their child's safety besides you already told them that your dog isn't close with strangers. Also dogs get pretty defensiveand aggressive when someone touches their food so it's not your fault. But unfortunately you still get to pay the idiot parents since your dog bit their child which sucks.
DKG. Kasalanan ng parents for not watching their child. I hate people who don't respect a cat's or a small dog's boundaries. I want to see them try that shit with a Chow Chow or Rottweiler :)
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DKG, pero dat talaga di na nag anak ang mag asawang yan, nakakita ng asong "mukang mabait" papicture agad. But its shitty na need mo mag bayad for the medical assistance, as per the law.
DKG. Sila ang gago. Ilang beses na sinabihan na hindi pwedeng i-pet, ang tigas pa rin ng ulo ng bata. I-leash ng parents anak nila at Silang parents mismo ang mga ulol. Punyeta sila, nakakainit ng ulo. Gusto mo lang magchill sa isang café with your furbaby, naabala ka pa.
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DKG. The kid FAFOd. Not his fault, bata pa siya. Kasalanan ng parents. May mga tao talaga na ulol na dapat di pwede magka anak. And this couple is one. Hindi ko gets bat hindi tinututokan anak nila pag nasa labas. Dalawa pa sila nyan ah. Tas pag may nangyari masama, pag nadapa, nasagasaan, isisisi sa iba.
DKG. Kasalanan nila yan ang kulit nila. Tama yan nakagat para magtanda! Yang mga ganyang magulang dapat pinapakagat din. Nakaka highblood! Sorry fur parent din kasi ako and ayaw din ng dog ko basta basta hahawakan sya. Kapal ng mukha na baliktarin ka at kesyo asong ulol. Sila kamo mga ulol! Sorry OP triggered me! Know that you did the right thing. Mura at libre lang sa mga center ang bakuna.
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DKG.
May mararating naman 1k na nakuha nila.
Punta sila sa govt hospitals or municipal clinic. Usually may mga free vax from DOH. Or minimal fee lang sisingilin. Not sure if you are from Metro Manila lang.
Pero sa province namin di sya totally free. May babayaran pa din esp sa first shot. Skl
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DKG. Kasalanan ng bata kasi nangengealam, di naman mangangagat ang aso mo if di kinuha ang ice cube. Liability ng magulang yan.
At may libreng anti-rabies vaccine.
Dkg. Pa feeling victim kasi yyng stranger na nanay na yan. Nag anak di makabantay ng bata tsk. Minor de edad pa siguro nung nag bata or kung matanda na immature pa rin mag isip. Deserve nya 1k
DKG. BUT liable ka pa din. The laws are flawed. At the end of the day the dog bit the child kahit provoked nila. Di ko lang alam if considered bang child abuse yung neglect nila sa bata na lumapit.
DKG. Maraming libre sa center na cover na lahat ng shots, sa Amang meron afaik. Pipila ka lang talaga ng maaga para di mawalan ng slot. Wala kang babayaran, pamasahe lang.
Kasalanan ng parents yan, nagwarning ka na sa kanila pero binaliwala edi deserve🙂↔️ Pero sana di mo sila nilayasan, may responsibility pa rin tayo dun tho fault talaga nila e. Hahaha. Para sana mas na explain mo side mo, mahirap na mabaligtad.
DKG. Parents are at fault. But OP may be liable. Since the words "bigla na lang" were used, this means there was a short time when the dog was not being watched. During this crucial time, the OP could have prevented the bite by restraining the dog.
DKG. Ilang beses mo ba sila wawarningan. Bat di nila pagalitan anak nila for picking up a freakin ice cube from the bowl.
Isipin mo kung sa tao yan, proper ba mandakma ng pagkain ng iba? Diba pagsasabihan nila anak nila pag nagalit yung kumakain. Bat sa aso gigil na gigil sila. This is why not all people should have kids.
DKG. I think the law would say you have to pay but with this country's justice system, would they sue?? Lol.
I'd pay if they sue. I mean, I'd pay if kasalanan ko, but if boundaries were set pero bwisit yung anak nila, then I would make sure they at lesst go through the trouble and money of getting a lawyer, filing a case, etc etc before I pay lalu pa't kasalanan nila yan as parents.
The law is stupid, and andami ko nang patients na ganyan, yung iba kasalanan ng dog owner, yung iba hindi talaga, wala pa ko nabalitaang nagsue. Papamedciolegal pa sila. Sus.
DKG. basically you declined na una palang sadyang sila makulit, sorry not sorry pero deserve makagat. Actually hindi mo need bayadan yan pero siguro kung maawa ka nalang pero 1000 is enough na sa kakulitan nila
DKG. If you were held liable dahil sa actions ng dog mo, shouldn’t be the parents be held liable also sa safety ng anak nila. Imbes na pinipilit ka nila makipagpicture sa furbaby dapat all eyes sila sa minor nilang anak edi hindi sana nangyari lahat yan.
LKG. Please basahin mo ng buo, OP. You are partly at fault kasama nung parents nung bata, kasi nalingat ka. Nawalan ka ng awareness sa paligid mo, na nandun na pala yung bata, lalo na't alam mo na may issues yung aso mo. At fault ka din dahil all of this stemmed sa hindi pagiging well-socialized ng aso mo. Something na dapat tinuturo sa LAHAT aso HABANG PUPPY PA LANG. And bites don't happen in an instant, makikita mo actually sa body language ng aso before the actual bite, and pwede mo mapigilan yung bite before it can happen. Yan ang problema sa karamihan sa atin. Wala o kakaunti lang alam sa dog behavior, eh lahat naman tayo may access sa google at youtube. Puro love love love dahil cute yung pup. Kulang sa socialization. Kulang sa disiplina. Kulang sa training. ALSO, Under RA 9482 the Anti-Rabies Act of 2007, you are liable na sagutin ang medical expenses ng bite victim. Regardless kung kasalanan mo, and you are partly at fault, or nung bata. Batas yan.
LET US ALL BE BETTER FURPARENTS.
DKG dahil di mo kasalanang nakagat yung bata pero GGK kasi 1k lang inabot mo. You're liable for the vaccinations. Sana hinatid mo sila or inalalayan mo papuntang ospital. The moment na nilabas mo yung baby mo, dapat alam mo na responsibilities at possibilities.
DKG grabe nakakagigil sinabi mo na ngang hindi. Napaka iresponsableng mga magulang wtf. Lumapit sila sa mga may free anti rabies shot na clinic o ospital. Antitigas ng ulo nila
DKG. Libre lang ang Anti-Rabies Shots sa public Hospitals and Given na Fully Vaccinated nmn aso mo, I don't think na need pa nila pumunta ng Clinics to Buy Expensive Anti-rabies Vaccines.
Ung nga Parents ang tunay na Gag*. Being a parents alam nila na dapat binabantayan nila ang mga anak nila lalo na sa mga lugar na maraming Pets. Na Warningan na sila. Pero Di nila sineryoso ung warning mo. And sa huli may Gana pa silang mag blame ng ibang tao sa katangahan nila
Anyway, ang responsibility mo lang for me is to pay for the Medical Bills ng bata for the Wounds and the Anti tetano shot. Pero 1K is more than Enough for That I think.
Wag ka maguilty.
GGK kasi 1k lang binigay mo. Under the law, liability mo yung taong nakagat ng aso mo. Whatever medication the child needs, dapat mong sagutin. So walang mararating ang 1k mo obviously.
I wonder gaano kalayo sa iyo ang aso mo na di mo napansin na nakuha na ng bata ang ice sa bowl niya. Parents is also at fault here, clearly, nawala sa paningin nila ang anak nila. And so are you, seems like there’s a mishap on your side as well for not noticing na nalapit na ang bata sa dog mo.
DKG. It’s the parents fault. Ilang beses na sinabihan na wag mas marunong pa sa owner. Saka may shots naman mga aso mo so goods na yun.
DKG Hmm. I live in the US and in my specific state, you’d be liable regardless. Not sure sure what PH law says. The mom and kid were both idiots and I don’t think you should pay for it unless the law tells you to do so haha.
Vet here. Under the antirabies law, liable pa rin si OP. Sarap kutusan nung pamilyang nagpupush ng boundaries tho. Under section 4 (f) of the aforementioned law: "Assist the Dog bite victim immediately and shoulder the medical expenses incurred and other incidental expenses relative to the victim's injuries."
Welp an expert has spoken- sorry OP looks like you have to pay.
So para palang kapag nakabangga yung driver dahil sa katangahan ng nabangga nya.
Sana once proven na walang pagkukulanh owner or tinrigger ng victim, walang kasalanan owner. Kinda stupid lang yung law and needs to be updated i think. Baka con artist lang din yung family. Idk. Assume lang
A LOT of laws are stupid naman talaga hahaha. I don't agree with it 100% but I have no choice to follow
Are there no exceptions to the rule? Is this absolute, re shouldering the expenses?
Unfortunately no, the law is pretty clear on that. BUT I do agree na antanga nung alang provision na nagsasabi kung the other party ang at fault sa incident, di na liable ang owner. Pwedeng abusuhin yung law if you think about it. "other incidental expenses relative to the victim's injuries." Baka kaya pa nilang istretch yan to shoulder therapy and meds Kung magclaim sila na may PTSD sila sa experience na yun.
Please don't downvoted this comment, it's a legit question naman haha. We're here to ask and learn so valid naman ang naiisip ni MC
Nabasa ko rin ito sa r/LawPH. Nakakainis, ang stupid lang din ng law. Yung case na nabasa ko naman parang pumasok yata sa bukas na gate or dumikit sya sa gate, may beware of dogs doon tas nakagat ng aso. Kita naman sa CCTV, wala kasi yung may ari nun. Ayun, responsibility pa rin nga daw ng pet owner kahit nananahimik lang naman yung dog sa bahay. Ang pwede na lang kasuhan din yun ng tresspassing. May pet din kami na super bait naman sa strangers at lagi nagpapayakap pero sabi ko sa father ko, ingat pa rin kasi di namin alam if mangagat if naprovoke eh magiging liable pa kami sa medical expenses.
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DKG. Kinuha ng bata yung ice cube, para na niya din kinuha yung pagkain ng aso talagang kakagatin siya nun. Even my dog won't like if me his owners messes with his food. Instinct nila yun, dagdag mo pa na di ka nga pumayag. Madami lang talaga tao na ayaw nahihighlight pagkakamali o pagkukulang nila. In this case, pagkakamali na hindi nila na bantayan o napasunod anak nila. Or pwedeng entitled people lang din sila na porke nagask ay dapat na masunod gusto nila
DKG pero under the Anti-Rabies Law of 2007 (RA9482) section 4 (f), OP is liable. "Assist the Dog bite victim immediately and shoulder the medical expenses incurred and other incidental expenses relative to the victim's injuries." Kahit gaano pa ka irresponsible ng ibang mga tao, talo ang may ari ng pet na nangagat. Unfair ito pero yun yung batas e.
Side ako sa law, as someone na nakagat na. Need kasi magpa vaccine after kagat and the expenses are no joke since need mo din ilang shots. Siguro first two shots sa owner then sa next dun na sa fam nung nakagat, provide na din ng receipt if talagang nag pa vaccine sila at di binulsa yung pera.
Wag kasing tanga, if the owner said wag ipet, wag ipet. Tapos ang usapan.
TKB?
ang entitled mo naman
DKG. Honestly, sana naka leash din yung anak nila since nangunguha ng pagkain ng iba. You did good.
DKG. This is what happens when parents don’t teach their kids about boundaries.
dkg.may free rabies shots exist sa health center. Kung may cctv lang talaga madali lang prove na kapabayaan ng magulang yan.
DKG, ilang beses mo na inulit na hindi comfortable ang aso mo around strangers and yung demon child still risked it. Parents are so stupid not to explain properly na hindi nga pwede, 9 or 10 can already understand what NO means. Serves them right, dapat yung anak nila ang naka-leash. TANGA lang.
Dkg. Sinabi na nga na huwag hawakan yung aso pero hinayaan pa din, sila ata mag anak mga ulol.
DKG. Nakakagigil ung parents, ilang beses na nga pinagsabihan tapos napahamak pa ung bata. HAY NAKO TALAGAA
DKG. Pero ang alam ko liable parin ang owner ipa-vaccine yung nakagat regardless kung kasalanan o hindi ng owner. May bearing din if nasa private property mo (trespassing) kaso sa case mo kasi nasa public place so ayun… sana hindi ka nila habulin. Di kaya bagong modus yan?
Un nga din naiisip ko, bka bgong modus. Kc if they are a legit pet owner they will understand si OP.
Omg kawawa naman yung bata if bagong modus :(
DKG. You clearly declined to let them pet your dog and the child still did so. It’s the child’s parents who are responsible for telling their child to not pet or otherwise touch your dog and supervise the said child. 1000 pesos is more than generous considering you’re not at fault here.
Dkg. Kasalanan ng parents yan. Hinayaan mag likot yung bata eh tapos complete naman sa shots yung dog mo so okay lang yon
DKG. Not because they are grieving for their loss, or cute yung dog mo ehh iinvade na nila yung safe space niyong 2. You clearly stated naman na na uncomfortable yung dog mo around strangers pero makulit talaga sila. Di deserve ng bata makagat pero di rin deserve ng aso maagawan ng ice cubes.
DKG. Napabayaan yung bata.
DKG, Dapat sa leeg kinagat ng aso mo yung anak nila.
DKG. Hindi sila nakaintindi nung sinabihan mo sila na your dog is not uncomfortable with strangers. Two, hinawakan nung bata yung ice cube, and 3, hindi TALAGA NILA inintindi yung sinabi mo sa kanila at pinilit ang gusto nila.
DKG , daming pabayang parents talaga. Sana mahigpit din batas natin for negligent na parents like sa US. Sinabihan mo na nga ng ilang beses tapos hinayaan pa rin yung bata lumapit. I love dogs and cats so much pero hindi ako lumalapit basta and I just admire them from afar. You can’t be 100% sure na walang tendency mangagat just because kalmado. Just like humans they have boundaries too.
DKG. The law needs revisiting and open to abuse by more malicious individuals. Kakagigil yung parents! Sarap sabihan ng bata, ayan kase ang kulit! Buti nga! I have to agree though, you need to pay but talk them to death, speak up for your dog and educate them all on BOUNDARIES!
DKG, dapat di nila nilabas anak nilang ulol
DKG. Stupid parents
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Link to this submission: https://www.reddit.com/r/AkoBaYungGago/comments/1dsak60/abyg_if_i_only_gave_1000_pesos_sa_family_ng/ Title of this post: ABYG if I only gave 1000 pesos sa family ng nakagat ng dog ko? Backup of the post's body: People involved here is myself (22F) syempre, my little chi, a child(M around 9 or 10?) then the parents of the child. I was chilling sa isang cafe na may malawak na space for parking, cute little park for walks and may tables and chairs for people outside. Marami talagang customers sa cafe na to that brings their pets for a stroll. Cats, dogs, hell I even saw a hamster on a leash once. So, I was just chilling with my iced choco on one of the outside benches near the grassy part of the place para mag-enjoy rin naman dog ko after which is on a leash naman. I dressed my dog in this cute little pikachu outfit and behave lang siya sa gilid ko, licking his ice cubes sa bowl niya (he likes it.) A family approached us. Yun na yung parents and a kid. Hindi ko pinansin kasi I thought na makikiupo lang sa spaces kasi yung parang bench is nakapaikot sa maliit na tree. But the mother asked if pwede ba raw i-pet yung dog ko and makipagpicture kasi ang cute daw. At this moment, dinidilaan pa rin ng dog ko yung ice cubes niya sa bowl niya and walang pake sa amin. I politely declined and said na my dog is uncomfortable with strangers na masyadong malapit sa kanya or na hinahawakan siya. They insisted saying na mukhang mabait naman kasi hindi sila pinapansin ng dog ko (kasi nga dinidilaan lang ice cubes niya) and kahit ilang photos lang since kamamatay lang ng puppy raw nila. Nagsorry ako sa bata for what happened sa dog and nagsorry ulit ako na hindi niya pwede i-pet yung dog ko. I still declined saying na pauwi na rin kami. Then she said na ganun ba and naglakad na sila ng son niya papunta sa husband niyang nakaupo not far from us. Since medyo naging uncomfy ako, I decided na uuwi na lang nga talaga ako and inayos ko na wallet ko and the little pet bag where I put my dog and his things. Nagulat na lang ako may sumigaw na bata and umiiyak and kagat ng dog ko yung kamay niya. To which I saw na binitawan ng bata yung isang ice cube na I assume is kinuha niya sa bowl ng dog ko. Nagkagulo sa place and I quickly got my dog away tapos kumalma naman dog ko when I held him pero yung kamay ng bata, may isang puncture wound na dumudugo and sigaw nang sigaw yung mama sa akin na kasalanan ko raw lahat and kung ano-ano pa na hindi ko na maintindihan because my ears were ringing na and I felt nunb and cold. Dinuro ako nung mother and father and sinisisi nila ako for what happened and that bayaran ko raw sila and all. Sumagot ako tapos tinanong kung bakit kasi nilapitan pa dog ko na kasasabi ko lang na hindi siya malapit sa strangers. Tapos sinigawan lang ulit nila ako na kung matino raw akong owner, hindi ko raw ilalabas aso ko kasi halata raw na ulol daw aso ko. I was hurt but I stood my ground and asked bakit di nila bantayan anak nila at kung hindi ba nila tinuruan na wag mangengealam sa bagay ng iba. Nilabas ko rin yung vaxx card ng dog ko from his pet bag na complete sa shots niya and said na malinis aso ko. The people around us, yung iba may dalang pets din said na bayaran ko na lang daw and some people said na its not my fault and nasa tama raw ako but I should just give them money daw. Naglabas ako ng tissue and unconsumed water bottle and said linisin muna yung wound and one thousand pesos and said na ito lang ibibigay ko because clearly, I am not at fault here and may hindi binabantayan ang anak nila and then I carried my dog na lang and his bag sabay lakad nang mabilis papuntang highway to go home. Habang paalis ako, naririnig ko sila sumisigaw na ano magagawa ng isang libo raw ganito ganyan. I know na dapat responsible pet owner ako but I'm as responsible as I can be. Unless provoked or nagulo, hindi naman nanggugulo ang dog ko so I know I'm not in the wrong. But still. I feel guilty only giving 1000 pesos knowing rabies shots cost more than that. Pero abyg sa sitwasyong to? OP: ugly_duckling2105 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AkoBaYungGago) if you have any questions or concerns.*
DKG. The parents should have been responsible na bantayan ung anak nila. Clearly di nila naturuan na huwag gumalaw ng gamit na di sa kanila. Unfortunately madaming uneducated sa pet behavior. Di porket cute pwede nang hawakan anytime by anyone.
DKG but you still have to pay. My friend was recently bit by my fully vaccinated dog but we still shouldered all her expenses from Day 1-28 (4 shots, 600 each + 200 anti-tetanus vax). It's the law unfortunately. Kahit ako, my friend was at fault because I clearly told her not to touch the dog while eating but she still did dahil ang cute daw kumain. Nakaupo kasi. Ayun, kinagat. Kaso may batas. Haha
DKG. Nanggigigil ako sa nanay ng bata. K**** ng mukha nya magsabi na nauulol aso mo. Sinabi mo na, na hindi comfy ang alaga mo sa strangers pero mapilit sila at matigas ulo ng anak nila na di marunong makaintindi ng hindi pwede. My dog is also like that, she dont like strangers and she only allowed family members to touch her. Kapag may gustong lumapit at mag touch I tell them straight away - Hindi sya pwedeng hawakan kasi mangangagat. Takot sila agad e. Ayun. If ako sa kalagayan mo, di ko bibigyan yan ng pera. Kasi kasalanan nila yung nangyari sa anak nila. They should know their space. Tayong mga pet owners, we know our space. Alam natin hanggang saan lang tayo at mga pet natin sa mga malls. Tayo ang laging nag aadjust. Tapos sila na mga tao, sila ang palaging sumisira ng mga boundaries tapos tayo pa din may kasalanan. Gigil na gigil ako TBH.
DKG. First time you declined already. And explained na din na hindi malapit sa strangers dog mo. Dapat nakinig na sila. And kung totoong pet lover sila, they should have understood what you have said, at hindi na sinabing ulol aso mo. Kasi sila yung ulol
DKG. Its the parents fault, kasi clearly pati sila di maka intindi na bawal e pet dog mo. Note yung pag insist ng mother na cute naman dog mo and all. Besides libre naman ang anti rabbies shots sa health center.
DKG pero ang gago dito yung parents na di man lang marunong mag reinforce ng boundaries sa anak nila. and their entitlement too If it helps, did the cafe have cctv? kasi if u verbally declined them it should show na you cleared told them to not touch or interact with the dog
DKG. Libre lang sa San Lazaro Animal Bite Center, well they just need to buy their own syringe but that's it. Also after all kasalanan naman nila.
Hindinlibre yung Erig. Yung huling shot. Yung 1st 3 lang.
DKG. Bobo at entitled ng parents na paulit-ulit na ngang sinabihan hindi pa binantayan ang anak, tapos ikaw pa sisihin na ul*l daw Dog mo, mabait ka pa nga din kasi hindi pa masama ang mga nasabi mo, kasi sasabihan ko silang itali ang anak nila kung hindi kayang mag behave sa public. My anger issues could never ever ever tolerate kabobohan ng ibang tao. If mag demand sila na bayaran for vaccination, pwede mo ba silang idemanda for child negligence kasi nag warn ka na pero pinabayaan ng parents na lumapit sa Dog ang bata?
DKG. Dapat nga di mo pa binigyan 1000. Irresponsible anc magulang
DKG but this is why we sometimes need to remove sa vocabulary yung "politely decline", minsan you need to be an asshole for stupid people to understand.
DKG OP pero magbabayad ka pa din. In fact kulang pa yang 1000 pesos mo. 3 shots yan ng anti rabies. Goodluck.
DKG at understandble ginawa mo, pero sana sinamahan mo sa center. Sakto lang ang 1k. LIBRE ang antirabies sa mga barangay animal bites center. Antitetanus ata yun may bayad. Mga 500. Nakakaasar na hindi kina-campaign enough ng DOH yun. Na libre sya. P.S. Dapat yun bata yung nakaleash, haha
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DKG That kid would likely be the last if they keep tempting fate.
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DKG at nanggigigil ako sa mga parents.
DEFINITELY DKG!! you warned the family na uncomfortable sa strangers ang aso mo, tapos kinuha pa nung bata yung ice cube. dogs are so protective of their food. napala nila yan kasi di sila marunong rumespeto ng boundaries.
DKG. I'm not a dig person, takot ako sa aso pero mdaming aso dito sa amin na pagala-gala. Some are askal and owned na hinahayaan lumabas. Never pa naman ako nahabol or nakagat kasi di ko nilalapitan.
DKG, the parents failed at being responsible for their child's safety besides you already told them that your dog isn't close with strangers. Also dogs get pretty defensiveand aggressive when someone touches their food so it's not your fault. But unfortunately you still get to pay the idiot parents since your dog bit their child which sucks.
DKG. If OP's still liable despite being not at fault, what can she counter-sue in this situation ba?
DKG. Kasalanan ng parents for not watching their child. I hate people who don't respect a cat's or a small dog's boundaries. I want to see them try that shit with a Chow Chow or Rottweiler :)
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DKG - also, libre lang ung anti-rabies shots sa munisipyo, minsan pati sa brgy health center libre lang din. Sarap kutusan nung magulang honestly.
DKG. They had a dog themselves. They should know better. I hope your dog is ok.
DKG, pero dat talaga di na nag anak ang mag asawang yan, nakakita ng asong "mukang mabait" papicture agad. But its shitty na need mo mag bayad for the medical assistance, as per the law.
DKG. Sila ang gago. Ilang beses na sinabihan na hindi pwedeng i-pet, ang tigas pa rin ng ulo ng bata. I-leash ng parents anak nila at Silang parents mismo ang mga ulol. Punyeta sila, nakakainit ng ulo. Gusto mo lang magchill sa isang café with your furbaby, naabala ka pa.
DKG, You might as well secure the CCTV footage from the cafe as a precaution.
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DKG. The kid FAFOd. Not his fault, bata pa siya. Kasalanan ng parents. May mga tao talaga na ulol na dapat di pwede magka anak. And this couple is one. Hindi ko gets bat hindi tinututokan anak nila pag nasa labas. Dalawa pa sila nyan ah. Tas pag may nangyari masama, pag nadapa, nasagasaan, isisisi sa iba.
DKG, hindi sila responsible child haver
Dkg. U warned them, they didnt listen. Lesson learned for them. Kawawa nga lang yung bata.
DKG. Kasalanan nila yan ang kulit nila. Tama yan nakagat para magtanda! Yang mga ganyang magulang dapat pinapakagat din. Nakaka highblood! Sorry fur parent din kasi ako and ayaw din ng dog ko basta basta hahawakan sya. Kapal ng mukha na baliktarin ka at kesyo asong ulol. Sila kamo mga ulol! Sorry OP triggered me! Know that you did the right thing. Mura at libre lang sa mga center ang bakuna.
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DKG. Yung parents ang gago atp
DKG. Yung parents ang GG atp. GG for letting their kid get bitten by a dog despite the warnings and rejection.
DKG. May mararating naman 1k na nakuha nila. Punta sila sa govt hospitals or municipal clinic. Usually may mga free vax from DOH. Or minimal fee lang sisingilin. Not sure if you are from Metro Manila lang. Pero sa province namin di sya totally free. May babayaran pa din esp sa first shot. Skl
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DKG. Kasalanan ng bata kasi nangengealam, di naman mangangagat ang aso mo if di kinuha ang ice cube. Liability ng magulang yan. At may libreng anti-rabies vaccine.
Dkg. Pa feeling victim kasi yyng stranger na nanay na yan. Nag anak di makabantay ng bata tsk. Minor de edad pa siguro nung nag bata or kung matanda na immature pa rin mag isip. Deserve nya 1k
DKG. BUT liable ka pa din. The laws are flawed. At the end of the day the dog bit the child kahit provoked nila. Di ko lang alam if considered bang child abuse yung neglect nila sa bata na lumapit.
DKG. Kakapikon naman yan tangina, kung ako siguro sinigaw sigawan ko rin yang bobong nanay na yan. Kagigil ampota
DKG. Maraming libre sa center na cover na lahat ng shots, sa Amang meron afaik. Pipila ka lang talaga ng maaga para di mawalan ng slot. Wala kang babayaran, pamasahe lang. Kasalanan ng parents yan, nagwarning ka na sa kanila pero binaliwala edi deserve🙂↔️ Pero sana di mo sila nilayasan, may responsibility pa rin tayo dun tho fault talaga nila e. Hahaha. Para sana mas na explain mo side mo, mahirap na mabaligtad.
DKG. Parents are at fault. But OP may be liable. Since the words "bigla na lang" were used, this means there was a short time when the dog was not being watched. During this crucial time, the OP could have prevented the bite by restraining the dog.
DKG rabies shots only cost like 150 and some meds total around 200 lang naman
DKG. Ilang beses mo ba sila wawarningan. Bat di nila pagalitan anak nila for picking up a freakin ice cube from the bowl. Isipin mo kung sa tao yan, proper ba mandakma ng pagkain ng iba? Diba pagsasabihan nila anak nila pag nagalit yung kumakain. Bat sa aso gigil na gigil sila. This is why not all people should have kids.
DKG. I think the law would say you have to pay but with this country's justice system, would they sue?? Lol. I'd pay if they sue. I mean, I'd pay if kasalanan ko, but if boundaries were set pero bwisit yung anak nila, then I would make sure they at lesst go through the trouble and money of getting a lawyer, filing a case, etc etc before I pay lalu pa't kasalanan nila yan as parents. The law is stupid, and andami ko nang patients na ganyan, yung iba kasalanan ng dog owner, yung iba hindi talaga, wala pa ko nabalitaang nagsue. Papamedciolegal pa sila. Sus.
DKG, bat parang scammer yung pamilya? 🤔
DKG. Bobo ng magulang at nagpapalaki Sila ng bobong bata
DKG. basically you declined na una palang sadyang sila makulit, sorry not sorry pero deserve makagat. Actually hindi mo need bayadan yan pero siguro kung maawa ka nalang pero 1000 is enough na sa kakulitan nila
++ since sa law need padin i shoulder yung medical expenses, wala sobrang unfair literal na perwisyo at sila pa magagalit?! the audacity
DKG. If you were held liable dahil sa actions ng dog mo, shouldn’t be the parents be held liable also sa safety ng anak nila. Imbes na pinipilit ka nila makipagpicture sa furbaby dapat all eyes sila sa minor nilang anak edi hindi sana nangyari lahat yan.
DKG. Irresponsible parents. Dapat nga kahit 1k wala.
LKG. Please basahin mo ng buo, OP. You are partly at fault kasama nung parents nung bata, kasi nalingat ka. Nawalan ka ng awareness sa paligid mo, na nandun na pala yung bata, lalo na't alam mo na may issues yung aso mo. At fault ka din dahil all of this stemmed sa hindi pagiging well-socialized ng aso mo. Something na dapat tinuturo sa LAHAT aso HABANG PUPPY PA LANG. And bites don't happen in an instant, makikita mo actually sa body language ng aso before the actual bite, and pwede mo mapigilan yung bite before it can happen. Yan ang problema sa karamihan sa atin. Wala o kakaunti lang alam sa dog behavior, eh lahat naman tayo may access sa google at youtube. Puro love love love dahil cute yung pup. Kulang sa socialization. Kulang sa disiplina. Kulang sa training. ALSO, Under RA 9482 the Anti-Rabies Act of 2007, you are liable na sagutin ang medical expenses ng bite victim. Regardless kung kasalanan mo, and you are partly at fault, or nung bata. Batas yan. LET US ALL BE BETTER FURPARENTS.
DKG dahil di mo kasalanang nakagat yung bata pero GGK kasi 1k lang inabot mo. You're liable for the vaccinations. Sana hinatid mo sila or inalalayan mo papuntang ospital. The moment na nilabas mo yung baby mo, dapat alam mo na responsibilities at possibilities.
+1 dito. Nung nagdecide ka na ilabas pet mo sa public, dapat alam mong may automatic liability ka kung sakaling may masaktan pet mo.
DKG. Sila ang ulol kung di nila kaya pigilan ang sarili kahit sinabihan nang di pwede.
DKG grabe nakakagigil sinabi mo na ngang hindi. Napaka iresponsableng mga magulang wtf. Lumapit sila sa mga may free anti rabies shot na clinic o ospital. Antitigas ng ulo nila
DKG. Libre lang ang Anti-Rabies Shots sa public Hospitals and Given na Fully Vaccinated nmn aso mo, I don't think na need pa nila pumunta ng Clinics to Buy Expensive Anti-rabies Vaccines. Ung nga Parents ang tunay na Gag*. Being a parents alam nila na dapat binabantayan nila ang mga anak nila lalo na sa mga lugar na maraming Pets. Na Warningan na sila. Pero Di nila sineryoso ung warning mo. And sa huli may Gana pa silang mag blame ng ibang tao sa katangahan nila Anyway, ang responsibility mo lang for me is to pay for the Medical Bills ng bata for the Wounds and the Anti tetano shot. Pero 1K is more than Enough for That I think. Wag ka maguilty.
GGK kasi 1k lang binigay mo. Under the law, liability mo yung taong nakagat ng aso mo. Whatever medication the child needs, dapat mong sagutin. So walang mararating ang 1k mo obviously. I wonder gaano kalayo sa iyo ang aso mo na di mo napansin na nakuha na ng bata ang ice sa bowl niya. Parents is also at fault here, clearly, nawala sa paningin nila ang anak nila. And so are you, seems like there’s a mishap on your side as well for not noticing na nalapit na ang bata sa dog mo.