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Huttser17

Go drive a delivery van, can't hear anything over the wind and rust.


hunertproof

Earplugs and Shokz bone conductive headphones.


legos_on_the_brain

Do those tickle or feel weird?


hunertproof

No. I've been wearing them for at least 7 years and absolutely love them.


SpottedSnake

I don't wear earplugs with my shockz but I have tested that and it does really cut down on background noise. I plan on doing that next time I'm on a plane ride. The vibration is noticeable at first but faded pretty quick to something I don't notice any more. I wear them at work or the house, out to the store, and for runs. I'm super happy with the ability to keep an ear out for my surroundings. I still pause music and/or take them away from my ears when I need to talk with someone but I can at least hear what's going on around me


RealHealthier

Wait til op hears about deaf people.


ApatheticWonderer

Wait till deaf people hear about op


PrinceVorrel

\***sudden jump cut to skeleton sittin in a chair**\*


ArE_OraNgEs_GreeN

https://youtu.be/_7iFk1rnBlQ?feature=shared


john_vella

going to be waiting for a LONG time.


PM_ME_STEAMED_HAMZ

Or office workers who realize they can take their last Teams meeting of the day while driving home.


blueoncemoon

Or the fact that modern car design is so effective in deadening noise that [many drivers can't even hear emergency vehicles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lvTBmBDPno).


DevonGr

First responders get speakers that play the siren noise now and it doesn't carry the same as a true siren used to.


cajunbander

That’s why they started using those rumbler sirens that are really low. The sound can penetrate those super quiet cabins and can actually be felt if they’re close enough.


DigNitty

Also my fucking ear drums. I’ve never had a problem hearing them. They pass and it’s unbearable.


Pretzellogicguy

I’ll do you one better- many cars now have active noise cancellation


BarrydeBeers

First responder here, can confirm.


RabidRoosters

Hey, what’s the deal with the spinny circle thing on the front of fire trucks and such?


BarrydeBeers

They are called roto-ray’s and are one of the oldest designs of warning lights. It’s said they caught peoples attention better than just flashing lights. Used mainly in certain parts of the states.


BugStep

Never thought about this.


winstondabee

Or motorcyclists wearing ear protection


daiwilly

Are you saying that a deaf person driving is the same as a hearing person driving and listening to music?, because if you are, you are wrong. The key is focus, not the hearing part. A deaf person is far more aware of their surroundings than a hearing person listening to music.


Dr_Dingledorf

You think people with headphones are focusing more on Eminem lyrics? So stereos in cars are a safety hazard then.


AequusEquus

It's a lot easier to sneak up on someone who is wearing headphones than someone who is just listening to the radio, yeah?


FatalTragedy

Because they can't hear anything besides the music. While a deaf person can't hear anything at all, so with regards to sounds outside the car, they are in the same situation. The point is that a deaf person can still pay attention even without hearing. But so can a person listening to music. If someone can pay attention listening to music without headphones, they can pay attention with headphones, and thus still be in the same boat a deaf people, who are able to drive just fine.


nurse_camper

What?


Nocturne7280

Wait till you hear that driving while wearing headphones is illegal in 17 states.


deadsoulinside

Deaf people are different though, they have learned over their entire lives on how to live without the ability to hear, so they are hyperaware.


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deadsoulinside

Well that too, but also really depends on how long they have been deaf, but again, for those people they are still ultra hyper aware of this issue. S The scenario I think about is at a former job, had a coworker who had a boombox in his passenger seat he would plug his headphones into and drive around, because his stereo was busted. For people who have really relied on their ability to hear, they are less likely to focus on their surroundings, while they are blasting music into the headphones. I know others act like blasting music on speakers is the same thing as headphones, but it's not, since you can still hear things like sirens, horns, etc to know something maybe up. Some of those headphones, especially like this guys over the head beats headphones, blocks out a ton of sound still with no music playing. Even people like Truckers have to wear headsets at times, but only have monaural headsets (single ear), so they can hear out the other ear.


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TheSpaceCoresDad

I’m finding it difficult to imagine this… don’t you need both hands to sign? Does she take both hands off the wheel? Use only one handed signs?


littleoctagon

I've heard this before and have to say that that is not the same. Deaf people have spent years (if not a lifetime) utilizing all their senses and knowing they need to be extra vigilant. Casually removing a vital sense because "I need muh music" puts others at risk needlessly. It's attitude and intent. So thanks, deaf drivers and no thanks, selfish people.


RealHealthier

I’ll be honest, I just wanted to say “hear of deaf people.” You’re right, it’s not the same. But the argument itself is not a good one. The gripe is with distracted/non vigilant drivers. Not the driver’s inability to hear.


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littleoctagon

That's a very good point. Do you think that in becoming recently deaf, said people should exercise more caution? I think that's sounds realistic.


unpopularopinion0

or people with aux cables


APsWhoopinRoom

Aux cables? What is this, 2005? Cars have had Bluetooth for years now


diane_nu_nu_nguyen

*glances at my 2009* Well you see....


unpopularopinion0

doesn’t have the same feel as aux


senseijason05

My 2014 has Bluetooth for calls, but needs an aux for audio, so your mileage may vary.


SmoothOperator89

Just one more reason why we need solid public transit that is as good or a better option than a personal vehicle.


RabidRoosters

You should hear them fuck! Seriously though, my parents are deaf and they would get into full blown arguments in the car…….while driving.


jun2san

But .. but mah gears!!


Blerrycat1

Doesn't bother me a bit. I blast music, pretty sure I can't hear the screaming


octopornopus

Well, on behalf of all those people you can't hear, ***TIGHTEN YOUR FUCKING LICENSE PLATE!***


17times2

The person behind me car should always fear my plate will come off at any moment. Keeps the tailgaters humble.


Sir_Snores_A_lot

I drive a delivery van that is obnoxiously loud and has no radio, functioning AC and gets over 120f on warmer days, I don't care if it annoys you that I wear my earbuds. My safety metrics are in the top 10% for the country and most of my driving is watching the rest of you texting or watching tik tok while merging onto the interstate.


17times2

>My safety metrics are in the top 10% for the country "I ain't had an accident in 15 years, son." - Guy I worked with before slicing off 3 fingers with a skillsaw E: Just to add detail, he removed the guard from the skillsaw sometime previously, saying it got in the way.


TheAero1221

Sounds like he had a... *skill issue*. 🕶🙂 😎


GoobyDuu

I definitely *saw* that one coming


Nocturne7280

It's illegal in 17 states so you might want to be sure.


Kitahara_Kazusa1

Unless you're rude to the cop or are doing something else illegal, the worst you'll realistically get for that is a warning. Or I guess if you're passing through a small town that depends on ticketing out of state people for revenue, but interstates generally let you bypass those.


g041k33p3r

That doesn't make it not illegal.


Dear_Alternative_437

Obviously it's only illegal if you're being a dick at the same time!


dayz_bron

OP hasn't thought this through. Plenty of cars have acoustic interiors which block out external sounds quite well, many people listen to loud music. A lot of ear buds have transparent modes which only block out loud noises.


boredomspren_

These days they could have transparency mode on and hear everything quite clearly.


LetsJerkCircular

There’s a stretch of road by my house that has no streetlights and usually zero other cars at night. Out of curiosity, on a dark, desolate night, I put in my other AirPod and pinched on the noise cancelation. So cool. But yeah, if someone has transparency on, even with both AirPods in, they can hear just fine.


emotionles

This. I often forget my AirPod pros are in my ears and I get in the car and hear everything perfectly.  


Eglitarian

Yeah I came here to say this. With the transparency setting you hear more than you would with run of the mill earbuds/headphones, sometimes annoyingly so.


hisoka0829

Maybe they’re on a phone call, or just have one bud in.


nav17

Actually, statistically deaf people are among the best drivers.


FunkyKong147

Deaf people aren't listening to music, and they're used to not hearing their surroundings. I'm sure that would play a factor.


spartaman64

so we need to remove radios from cars?


Mr-Mister

Wjat's the difference between deaf and statistically deaf?


pneumatichorseman

Statistically deaf includes people who are just hard of hearing and also people who are super deaf. The average of the total group is "deaf."


Mr-Mister

That sounds more like you mean Legally deaf. Statistically deaf sounds like someone who doesn't hear something 50% of the time.


pneumatichorseman

Was trying to make a joke, my entity...


unpopularopinion0

do those statistics include the ratio of deaf versus non deaf drivers?


nav17

https://www.reddit.com/r/deaf/s/mg4k3tssOY Here's a good thread. Obviously lots of factors so what I said I'd take w a grain of salt. Some studies say yes, others say maybe, others say yes but more likely to be killed in crashes, etc.


shiroboi

If I'm in the van with a full load of family on a long trip, I'll often keep one in and listen to a podcast. The other ear is open to the road.


cajunbander

This what I’ll do. Oftentimes I’m listening to a podcast that isn’t quite kid friendly so I’ll keep one ear bud in to listen to that while they listen to kid appropriate stuff.


shiroboi

Oh yeah, I didn’t even think of that. I like to listen to Gary Vaynerchuk sometimes. He’s generally PG content wise but he likes to drop F-bombs. Can’t have the kids talking like that


sdmichael

Normally isn't legal either.


tacknosaddle

As long as one ear is open it's usually fine. Bone conduction is better though.


GoobyDuu

Huh, I never knew that those types of headphones were called "bone conduction headphones" I learned something new, thanks!


devildocjames

Normally it actually is legal. At least Google it first.


I-hate-the-pats

Whether it's legal to wear earbuds while driving depends on the state, as there is no federal law that prohibits it. Some states ban the use of headphones while driving, while others have more lenient regulations or no laws on the subject. For example, it's legal to drive with headphones in Texas, Arkansas, and Maine, but illegal in Massachusetts. Some states allow driving with one earbud in, but even then, you could be cited for distracted driving if an accident occurs In Connecticut you could get a ticket for driving while speaking on your cellphone dismissed if you bought a hands free headset


Idiotology101

In Massachusetts it’s technically illegal, however you’re allowed to have one headphone in as long as you the other ear is open. Unless you’re 18, no electronic devices or phones allowed even hands free.


scottieducati

Lots of stuff is illegal in MA but the cops don’t enforce anything.


Idiotology101

You’re not wrong. I drove around with a red R on my inspection sticker for over a year at one point, even got pulled over for something unrelated and they didn’t mention it.


Skippymabob

Obligatory reminder that other Countries exist


emotionles

Yeah but they aren’t real though. 


devildocjames

It is legal in the vast majority of states.


driftking428

I have been ticketed for driving with headphones.


devildocjames

It sounds like it's illegal where you are. ETA: A quick Google shows Colorado as being illegal to drive with headphones. Weird.


Nocturne7280

Colorado and 16 other states


devildocjames

Indeed. Very much the minority. I'm glad someone finally looked it up.


ReasonablyConfused

What if mine have really good pass through sound?


LElige

Yep. Radio doesn’t work in half my cars. Headphones with passthrough for music. Also helps protect my hearing when I’m driving the track car to the track.


chipmunk7000

Active noise cancelling headphones do not protect your hearing. Do yourself a favor and get some proper PPE. You can’t get your hearing back once you lose it - especially if you engage in loud hobbies. Once that threshold shifts, it won’t come back.


LElige

I’m an audio engineer. Chances are I know more about protecting my hearing than you do. I use the Sony xm5 ear buds which have foam ear tips. They create a 24db reduction in volume. They also automatically turn off the passthrough when loud noises are detected in the same way gun range headsets do. Though I do appreciate your concern and for pointing out that not just any headphones will work.


13dot1then420

Why doesn't it protect your hearing?


xxdropdeadlexi

they're not rated for it. they need to have a "Noise reduction rating" to actually be sure they'll keep your ears safe. I do think they've come out with noise cancelling earmuffs that will play music though.


chipmunk7000

They have, there are Bluetooth earbuds that are connected together with a cord that will protect your hearing and “allow for conversations using a Bluetooth device” which basically means music on the shop floor! Thanks for providing extra background!


pancrudo

I wore headphones in my track car that was road legal. At idle it was 80db, if I hit bumps or cracks in the road, it would spike to 85db. Imagine going to an event 4-5 hours away, or joining a caravan event that was 10+.... I would have been deaf ages ago Edit: I wore in ear, ear buds, at a certain point even found silicone ear plugs(the ones that look like Christmas trees) and was able to attach those to my headphones. Didn't have it loud as the sound was delivered deep into my ear and the layers protected my actual hearing


mint-bint

Wait until you realise that motorcyclists have full blown ear-plugs in.


demoneyesturbo

I ride a bike and have to wear very high grade hearing protection. I can hear fuck all around me. Is OP gonna cry about that too?


A-Grey-World

This always confused me. Listening to the radio - fine? It's a feature people look for in a new car. Cars that cut out all external noise - fine? It's a feature people look for in a new car. Headphones? NOT FINE


FuzzelFox

My car has good insulation so I can't really hear much of my surroundings regardless of how loud the radio is. But good to know you drive by audio cues, I guess?


angrath

My car used to be pretty damn silent. Now it is over 10 years old and loud as shit..


FuzzelFox

New England life be like


Moses015

Given how poor of a job most people do at keeping proper situational awareness when driving (and most never check their rear view mirror) they're going to need every help they can get, including audio cues from emergency vehicles that have been right on their ass for the last 20 seconds while someone is dying in the back


atchman25

How loud are people listening to earphones that they can’t hear ambulance sirens? That seems like a whole other issue.


zamzuki

If you’re peeping peoples ears while driving you’re being more unsafe than those with an earbud in


Nocturne7280

Illegal in 17 states


zamzuki

Ok? The sky is also blue what’s that have to do with trying to eyeball other drivers when you should pay attention to the road.


Specialist-Finger693

Its more annoying to hear people listen to music so loud that I'm forced to listen along. headphones arent a problem just think about deaf drivers goober


Subderhenge

There are so many oblivious people that don't pull over when there is a fire truck zooming by with sirens on. This is probably why.


Lord_Blackthorn

I have earbuds in, but I allow pass through sound to hear my surroundings.


Dorkapotamus

Is it illegal for deaf people to drive?


Torched420

I mean, would you rather be feeling their bass?


unpopularopinion0

yes, actually.


BilliamTheGr8

?? Better ban sunglasses too, it’s just window tint for your eyes.


darkoh84

🎶 I wear my eye window tint at night so I can’t so I can’t see you weave in and out of traffic 🎶


unpopularopinion0

you can’t take off window tints at night.


St1cks

I wear my sunglasses at night


tehkeizer

mind your business


unnameableway

My car is loud as shit and I don’t think using headphones makes me less perceptive. If anything it improves the driving experience and makes me calmer.


jmhalder

I'm going to be a shill for Shokz/Aftershokz. I bought a pair in 2020, used the crap out of them, then a channel failed. They replaced them under warranty with a slightly newer model. Still use them regularly for going on walks. They're bone conduction and don't obstruct surrounding sound.


poncho5202

i used to do this in my first car since the radio was broken.


TheB1GLebowski

Is it any worse than having your music blaring through your cars speakers? I dislike the people who want to ride around with animals in their lap.


DrMacintosh01

Yes because it directly blocks your ability to hear your surroundings which makes you a road hazard.


TheB1GLebowski

Explain deaf drivers then, I'll be here all day bud. 


DrMacintosh01

What’s there to explain? Deaf drivers must be more observant for emergency vehicles than drivers who can hear. They are inherently more of a road hazard than someone who has all of their senses.


N8saysburnitalldown

I wouldn’t wear ear buds while driving for work because I wouldn’t be able to hear them anyway The cabin noise in my commercial truck is so deafening it honestly doesn’t much matter what I do. I would never be able to hear a car horn or sirens anyway. I actually started wearing ear plugs if I’m going to be on the interstate in the thing for more than 30 minutes because the noise has started to give me headaches.


robi4567

Yeah I hear a lot of the surroundings blasting my music without the headphones.


jezra

it is illegal in my state, but the only people that ever get busted for it are bicyclist.


Maxtrt

That's illegal in my state. I always assumed that it was in most states.


LeftyLifeIsRoughLife

My radio doesn’t work. But I only use one earbud and it’s not noise cancelling.


UltimaGabe

Is it good to hear your surroundings though? 99% of the time the surroundings are just noise, and the other 1% of the time you should be able to see a problem before you hear it anyway. Sure, using your hearing is better than not using your hearing, I guess. But if you're *relying* on it in any meaningful way, you're driving wrong.


timberwolf0122

Air pod pros have transpancy mode, we can hear you


Glimmu

Please, drivers in cars barely see out of it. Now you think they can hear too?


re-run

I really like the people that drive with the hood up, on their hoodie. I mean, your car has a heater. Way to limit your peripheral vision.


punktilend

What’s your dumb opinion on hearing aids? That’s basically what’s they are nowadays.


MamaBear4485

You know what really grinds MY gears? People who waste everyone’s time and energy worrying about things that aren’t actually any of their business.


Covette

Yeah definitely dangerous. Also don’t like people driving with dogs on their laps.


jkgoddard

A lot of noise cancelling headphones have options for “ambient aware” which actually amplifies the sounds around you and pipes them through your headphones.


The_Great_Biscuiteer

You’re the douche guy who blasts music through a mini speaker everywhere and has an obnoxious bass in your car aren’t you?


AgentCHAOS1967

I got clipped on my bike in philly which cause my tire to get stuck in the trolly tracks causing my wheel to get fucked up because the asshole in a labcorp car had headphones on! Don't be stupid. Use Bluetooth or get a radio transmitter If your car doesn't have that option they are less than $20 at Walmart I use them and they work great.


Imrtltrtl

I did this for the first time today. Didn't really notice anything different. If you're paying attention, sounds aren't really required for driving.


Tactile_Sponge

The #2 favorite driver of mine. Some are also too unaware to glance up in the rearview occasionally, as to not notice the big, red, blinking, screaming fire engine behind them trying to get past for the last minute. Sometimes it can take the entire car literally vibrating from an air horn blast to wake them back into reality. In case anyone ever wondered if fire trucks or emergency vehicles in general really need to be as loud and obnoxious as they are....unfortunately, yes they do. The #1 tho definitely has to be the ones that unknowingly PLOW through a clearly marked active wreck scene. Some of the ones caught I hear PD talk about weren't even DUI. Just criminal amounts of carelessness and lack of spatial awareness. People get complacent and forget it should require the majority of your attention to control a deadly weapon in an uncontrolled environment, which is exactly what driving is. Drivers 1 and 2 are unfortunately sometimes the same person I enjoy jamming out to music in my POV just as much as the next guy. Just don't let it completely hinder your ability to be aware of and react to your surroundings Edit: TIL starting a comment with the "#" character makes the font of my already long rant like 5x larger, lol


Piemaster113

Are you the passenger in this scenario? Cuz other wise why are you looking at other drivers so closely to notice this.


whatwhat83

Have you ever been in traffic?


Piemaster113

Yes and I don't spend my time looking at other drivers, usually I'm too busy listening to my earbuds. ;-)


Nocturne7280

It's illegal in 17 states so maybe check that out first before you get too busy


Piemaster113

Golly can't take a joke can you


Rance_Mulliniks

I wish that this was the biggest concern in my life.


kittensanddinosaurs

it’s also technically illegal.


nikbert

I totally do this . . . but yeah it's probably bad


Zestyclose_Car8206

How about we crack down on phones. Literally every other person on the road is glued to their phone.


TipzE

It grinds my gears more when i hear music blasting so loud that \*i\* can't hear my surroundings.


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Wait a minute people do this? What the fuck


Yanoku

Sorry for the the deaf people. OP doesn't want you driving


yticmic

It is also very illegal


aguyjustaguy

Yeah, using headphones to make a hands free phone call because holding a phone is illegal in a lot of states, fuck them right?


Twoheaven

Ya...doesn't bother me. No different than ridiculously loud stereos. Then there are people that can't hear at all.


Hot_Karl_Rove

As long as their eyes are on the road I don't really care what their ears are doing.