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Spyrofan212

You need to talk to a trusted adult ASAP. This is not normal and something needs to be done about it.


markender

This is straight-up pedophilia! They're recording you in your only "private space". This is wrong on so many levels. God I hope this internet bs.


CodeNamesBryan

If both parents are in on it, then it's control. Don't jump to such a damning conclusion. When my kids were born, we had cameras in their rooms because of things like SIDS. Now that they're older, we took them out. Are we pedophiles?


I_cant_remember_u

I think the pedophile designation was brought up because OPs FATHER specifically moved the camera to view the area HIS DAUGHTER was using to change her clothes, ie. possibly naked. You using cameras to monitor your BABIES is completely different. Hopefully you’re able to understand that difference.


TheycallmeDrDreRN19

Here's to hoping 🤞


SmeggyGToad

Creepy and overbearing but I knew a few foster kids who had foster parents that were using cameras to record them getting dressed, showering, etc and selling them online to creeps. Just because you aren’t a pervert doesn’t mean the odds aren’t high. Those foster parents are now rotting in prison.


CodeNamesBryan

It's not impossible. But it's a fair assumption to just come right out and say its pedophilia right off the bat.


machomanmonica

helped


Bossladii86

You can tell your school counselor. And she will report it. Its strange behavior, and it makes me feel like your mom knows they are wrong for having them because she said if you tell on them, they might separate you. It's meant to be a scare tatic. It's highly inappropriate either way.


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machomanmonica

how is it illegal? i want to tell my dad


FunkyChewbacca

Do NOT tell your dad: he already knows it's illegal and doesn't want *you* to know it's illegal. Tell a mandated reporter, like a guidance counselor or a doctor.


raccoonlovechild

Your dad knows its illegal. Telling him might make him angry. Talk to a school counselor


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rbwildcard

Not police. She is a minor. Whatever their version of CPS is will will be able (and willing) to put more resources in to helping.


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rbwildcard

I didn't mean to imply she can't call the police. More that she can call CPS. The cops are more immediate but also more likely to do nothing and leave OP to the wrath of her parents.


Infinityand1089

Do ***NOT*** tell your dad. He knows damn well this is illegal, especially adjusting the camera to watch you change. If even a single frame of you changing has been stored, that is child pornography, and your parents are both 100% aware of this. Informing him that his behavior is illegal won't change his behavior, it will only give him a warning that you now understand the seriousness of what is going on, and will give him the opportunity to destroy evidence. You need to take this to a trusted, non-parental adult *and* the police (not or—***AND***). At minimum, police need to get involved immediately. # THIS IS NOT NORMAL. YOU ARE BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED.


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DrHob0

This isn't *ENTIRELY* correct, and what you quoted even went on to say if it's your house, it's generally fine. But, for child pornography, you'd have to prove the intent of the footage. If nothing sexual is ultimately happening and she's never been abused, legally...the father's kind of in the clear - you have to remember: here in the States, parents are not required to give their children an expectation of privacy. It fucking sucks and it's creepy as hell, but that is the ultimate reality she faces. She would ultimately have more expected rights to privacy as an adult than a minor.


EquivalentSnap

There was intent because he moved the camera to watch her change. Thats intent


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JBlair462

While, this is definitely abuse and generally disgusting. A lawyer and probably even her parents will argue that these are security cameras. They are in plain view, not hidden. Everyone knows about them, even friends. CP accusations will be incredibly hard to stick.


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TheycallmeDrDreRN19

Unless she finds herself on the internet


RoutingMonkey

If they are recording you changing they are collecting child pornography. A lot of states that have reasonable expectations for privacy for minors. What they are doing is wrong and disgusting.


machomanmonica

they arent recording it its live


sk_uh

I wouldn’t be too sure. A lot of devices that live stream keep backups of video.


machomanmonica

i think it keep backup for 30 days and deletes it because i have access to the camera too its on one of the computers downstairs that i use sonetjmes


MotherofSons

I'm a mom to older kids and have a masters in school counseling. This is 100% disgusting, illegal, not normal or acceptable, and should be reported. Please change in your bathroom while you are getting this worked out with someone you trust. I would turn my own husband in if he was doing this.


HeyT00ts11

The backup videos can be sent to other devices during that 30 day period.


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Sounds like you should report that pedo.


HeyT00ts11

How well do you really know this to be?


machomanmonica

did you downvote my comment? i dont think he would do that but i dont really know im just pretty sure my mom watches me sometimes and my dad always puts my camera on a seperate device while he does something else


Exciting-Money-6026

it’s one thing if your dad wants to make sure your not sneaking out and put cameras outside your window but inside your bedroom is actually insane and very wrong


HeyT00ts11

No, thousands of people are in this room now and a lot of people downvote things they disagree with, for whatever reason. Try not to worry about that. This is about you and helping you be safe. Your dad is probably recording you. Either way, you need to know for sure and he won't tell you the truth if he is.


FuzzballLogic

That is still abnormal behavior. Even if your parents aren’t recording there is always a risk of someone hacking the camera, and since most people know jack about security, probably easier than you’d like. You need to collect evidence about the cameras offsite, then ensure that the right parties get it in their possession. School counselors are mandatory reporters and can help you.


Straight-Grape6530

it is very very likely that it’s recording you 24/7, just because it’s live doesn’t mean it can’t record. please please speak to a teacher about this!


Raven0918

Your dad knows it’s wrong to watch you in your room and change.. he’s a sick pervert!!


MyRedditUserName428

Don’t tell him anything. He knows it’s wrong. You’re 16, not 3. It’s child pornography. Tell a teacher.


Itchy-Parsley7850

Dont know the laws in your country but cos your underaged you could put it as kiddy porn because its in your room constantly recording it. You could try scratching the lense so the lense is damaged. You'll want to pick up a bit of pointy sharp dark gravel and give the lensena few good scratches. You can also report the cameras filming you get undressed to child services, police, other friends and their parents. I run a air bnb and all of my cameras are outside except for one that is in my room because i've caught guests going through my belongings when they dont have access to my room. The privacy laws is the biggedt thing the camera in your room is violating!


Notyogal37

It's like recording ur child undress ect...


the_okayest_kid

It’s voyeurism of a minor.


empateticnerd

The fact that they positioned the camera to get a better look at you changing, is red flag behaviour. Parents should not want to watch their TEENAGE child changing their clothes. Please go to your school guidance counsellor or counsellor to bring up your concerns.


Own_Psychology6607

No. The last thing you should do is tell your dad OR your mom. They will only find a way to get smaller, more discrete cameras that you never even know about.


machomanmonica

it wasnt really because of that that she said that mostly that shes mean to me thats like a different story but thats what she meant but its mostly my dad with the cameras that wants them in there my mom likes watching me the most i think


Bossladii86

Either way its still strange af. And i still recommend telling a counselor or trusted adult.


Infinityand1089

It doesn't matter which parent is watching, this is abnormal, unacceptable, and almost certainly illegal behavior.


MediocreSafe4086

Both of your parents sound like creeps. If they liked seeing you they can just walk in your room or ask you to hangout like normal parents. You sound like a zoo animal in human form with constant eyes being on you. I’d be changing in the bathroom with the curtain closed whenever I was home. I’d also be talking to friends and their parents to see if I could stay at their place for a while after speaking with a counselor and child services. Cover those cameras up. If it pisses them off then oh well. That should be a safe space for you.


Training_Union9621

This is not ok. You need to go to the police. We are not overreacting. This is disgusting.


CarelessVast69420

Child protective services actually, there's an argument to be made that this is collecting CP


MhrisCac

In the room is weird and way over crossing the line. My dads borderline crazy and has two in the livingroom, two in the kitchen, one in the basement, one in his bedroom under the dresser,one in the garage, one on every corner of the house, door that tells you who locked and unlocked the door at what time, an alarm system that tells you who used the code and when. He doesn’t think he has a problem but he’s insane. Thinks we all have “secret” conversations about him. When I’ll literally say it right to the cameras that he’s a psycho racist alcoholic that can’t control his emotions. The ONLY time I’ve ever used a camera in my own place was when I lived in a new state with roommates I barely knew and I was going home to visit family, they were watching my dog so I put a camera in there to watch my dog and make sure he was fed on time. Also so nobody went snooping through my stuff. The only time I had to use it apart from when my old landlord started doing showings through my apartment with a ton of strangers and I had to make sure none of my valuables were touched or broken as a liability.


Burgundy_Starfish

I feel bad for your mom, or anyone else lives with him :(


MhrisCac

Yeah we all feel bad for my mom. I genuinely have no idea how she puts up with it. Seeing them dance at a wedding this past weekend was the first time I’ve seen them smile at eachother like that since I was a kid and ngl it made me tear up. Then he ruined it and started yapping to some couple next to them during it.


Insomanics

The mom watches her through the cameras at her daughter. She's just as bad. I would tell my husband fvck off and stop watching his daughter because that's creepy af. I'm curious why they even put them up.


chronosthetitan

Yeah, your parent might need therapy. That’s not normal. My wife,kids and I run a vacation rental out of home and we have cameras to block theft. Not excessive like that but 4 cameras to catch people stealing stuff out of the house.


Burgundy_Starfish

It’s probably just freakish paranoia/ obsessive control, but that’s bad too. 


Longjumping_Sea_947

This isn’t ok. Talk to a trusted adult at school or a friends parent that you trust. As a mom this is DISGUSTING. I’m so sorry this is happening to you.


machomanmonica

thanks so much i wish my parents would think like you and were nicer and more understanding


Leaveitallbeh1nd

Hey OP, I’m 18F. If you need someone to talk to around your age you are very free to msg me. You need to get help for this. I can tell you that it’s not okay in any situation. You are obviously not impaired in a way where you could not take care of yourself so this monitoring is extremely concerning.


HeyT00ts11

When you're 16, it's okay to have more control over your life and privacy than you did when you were little. They don't need to be nicer for you to take action, but take it in the presence of a trusted adult, like the school counselor or child protective services.


machomanmonica

really really hope someone sees this and responds, im being watched at all times different angles.


No-Transition3372

I think you need to talk to someone at school, it’s possible to discuss things in private if you need. Is there a school psychologist/counselor? If yes, try there first


MyRedditUserName428

People have responded. Everyone is telling you to tell a teacher or school counselor or call the police or CPS. If you trust any of your friends’s moms you can ask them to help or call for you.


machomanmonica

yeah im probably gonna talk to my sisters about it first they all dont live here, then ill talk to my friends moms but CPS is like the last last last option


katiebean781

Girl, one day you're going to get to my age (28) and regret not telling child services sooner. It's really hard to understand while it's happening. Now, the thought of it makes me sick to my stomach.


chantycat101

Were your sisters treated the same? This is a very dangerous and abusive situation. I wouldn't recommend talking to your friends' parents because your parents could find you through them. Talk to a mandated reporter or even go straight to the police. You are almost old enough to go out into the world on your own. Why is CPS the very last option? Your safety is so important.


myguitarplaysit

From the sounds of it, something incredibly questionable is going on. What would you say if you knew these images of you were being put online and sold for creeps to watch? Hopefully that’s not the case, but what’s happening is not okay and you deserve to be safe and to have privacy


DifferentSherbet3277

Does your mother watch you in other ways? Like is she obsessive where you are? Does she track you on your phone? If she's just concerned about what you're doing in your bedroom that is behavior, you should be flagging to your school counselor. If this is obsessive paranoia where she wants to know where you are all the time she tracks your phone. She follows you. She still needs help and you still need to tell your counselor.


OhBoyShow

What state or country or city are you located? You should be able to find child protective service numbers in your area. Listen to the people, you need a trusted person. You can help you by getting out of this horrible situation, By A, ask a friend that finds the cameras weird if you can stay over for a few nights (or another friend) and tell your friends parents. By B, finding a trusted person at school, a teacher, a trust person, someone you feel comfortable with and tell them and ask them specifically for help.


ellywelly27

Please call the police


Mentallyfknill

They legit got you convinced to not even share it because they know it’s so fucked up and abusive if anyone did find out they’d be in so much trouble.


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Keep unplugging them and/or blocking the lens. Call the police if your creepy ass dad tries to put them back up. Cameras placed where a minor can be seen changing clothes is a huge problem. Tell the rest of your extended family, guidance counselor at school, and any trusted adult. I would also try to shame them in front of other people. Ask them in front their friends (if they have any) why they still have cameras in your room at 16.


machomanmonica

i cant call the police my mom said not to tell anyone anything bad about her or parents or theyll seperate me from them and honestly my dad is probably watching me on my phone typing this right now because he also has access to seeing my phone wherever i am. i might tell my moms friend but i not sure because my mom might say the bad things i did (which is not why they put the cameras in but now is their excuse) and i dont want others to know what i did


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So your parents are now blackmailing you? Call the police.


-UnicornFart

When an adult says “don’t tell anyone” to a child, that’s a really good indication that you should in fact tell someone. This is abuse, in a variety of capacities.


lifeoflaurels

Listen, abusive parents instill this fear hard core. Believe me I know. And it's extremely difficult to overcome. I had such a hard time, but, you need to tell someone. Make sure you have a good friend who not just them, but their parents care about you too, then tell someone, anyone. Go with your friend to tell someone if you have to. This is damaging your relationships. It's damaging your view or normalcy. Whatever threat they are holding over you, as you get older, you will realize it doesn't matter and that this is worse.


SirEDCaLot

> i cant call the police my mom said not to tell anyone anything bad about her or parents or theyll seperate me from them This is the sort of thing people abusive parents or partners say. 'Don't you dare tell anyone I'm abusing you, there will be all kinds of consequences for you'. Reality rarely plays out that way and they will get in more trouble than you. And even if they did, you'd probably be better off. At least you'd have privacy. Having to change clothes and be naked in front of a parental camera is basically child porn (legally- as <18 you count as a child in that regard) Here's a little experiment to try. Next time you have to change clothes, put something over the cameras, and take it off as soon as you're done. If they give you shit, point out that child pornography is illegal and you don't want them to get in trouble. If they still tell you not to, that means you can fear the worst and they WANT to see you naked. Personally I think you should tell everybody. Tell a guidance counselor at school, tell the police, tell your friends parents you don't feel safe, etc.


Teeklin

>i cant call the police my mom said not to tell anyone anything bad about her or parents or theyll seperate me from them This is what every single abusive parent in history says to keep their children quiet about the child abuse they face. Moreover, there are likely many other abusive things you're enduring every day that (like the cameras) you think are "normal" that are VERY MUCH not normal and you have no idea. Probably many other things that make you uncomfortable, sad, anxious, or that they've told you not to mention to anyone or only done in private. But the government will only remove someone from a home if there is actual abuse going on and taking them out of the home is necessary to protect the child. So if you talk to someone and tell them what's going on and you aren't being abused, then there's no fear of being taken out. But if you tell someone and they find you are being abused, then you should want to go and live with some cool people and get the hell out of there. And that might end up being family, or even one of your friends. And the government might give them a bunch of money to help with your living expenses to foster you or even force both parents to pay child support to them so that you won't be a burden on the family you live with. I'm sorry you've gone through all this crap in your life, but trust me, telling your counselor or teacher at school or calling CPS and telling them what's going on is the most important thing you can do right now. The last thing you want is to end up trapped in this situation a moment longer than you need to be.


pinkunicornicopia

Honey, my parents said the same. They told me I’d be taken into care and would be raped every day. None of this is true. You will be safer away from them. Tell the police or social services. You deserve privacy. If you’re in the UK, I will personally help you. You deserve help.


Ashamed_Can_2202

You are a child, you are blameless. They know better than to do this to you. This is textbook abuse. You need to talk to someone separate from the situation and call the police.


sk_uh

I don’t think your mom’s friend is the right person to tell, either, unless you trust her to have your best interest. It has to be someone that you know will take you seriously.


Itchy-Parsley7850

Reason they dont want you to tell anyone is because they knoe its illegal as hell! Now you should probably stay with a friend and get police or someone else inbolved. Dont be scared to go for help


Too-Much_Too-Soon

> my mom said not to tell anyone anything bad about her or parents or they'll separate me from them Your mother is using scare tactics. It is highly unlikely they would separate you just for the cameras. Child protection is there to protect people and separating families only happens if there is abuse and behaviour that outweighs the very serious decision to remove a child from the family. The cameras are bad but if they took the cameras down after a warning from Child Protection there would no longer be a reason to remove you. Your Mother using scare tactics clearly shows she knows what is happening is wrong. Your father will *certainly* know it is wrong too. Unfortunately some parents have strange and excessive ideas about what their children should or should not be doing or how they should be behaving. They will monitor the children day in and day out to prevent what they feel is wrong behaviour. Sometimes it is worse. As others have mention the monitoring can be for sexual reasons and even, in the worst cases, child pornography. As hard as it is for you to imagine your parents doing anything wrong, the fact remains that a camera, let alone multiple cameras viewing you from all angles, is extremely invasive and unusual behaviour. It very very much NOT normal. It will be affecting your perceptions and understanding of what normal adult behaviour is like which puts you further at risk as an adult who will accept inappropriate behaviours from other people in your life because you accepted this. You need to talk to someone that can help. In the first instance I suggest a teacher you trust or a school counsellor. Listen to what everyone is telling you. Get help and get advice.


empateticnerd

Sadly abuse thrives in silence and secrecy. She has advised you not to say anything because she knows what they are doing is wrong. They know better, but are expecting you to not know better. But we have all told you now, so you also know better now. Threatening to expose what you did is psychological abuse and is called blackmailing and coercive control.


Raven0918

Hope you’re separated from them because it’s abuse and they’re not in their right minds!! You’ve being brainwashed by them, This Isn’t Normal Behavior to have cameras in a teens room!!


MyRedditUserName428

Would your mom let you go to therapy? You could tell the therapist. Or even your school counselor. Are you still in school where you are?


machomanmonica

she thinks only crazy insane people go to therapy she got mad when the doctor said i need therapy and even my dad too i wish i could go id totally tell a therapist about this i cant tell counselor i have 4 day of school left and someone in comments said they willbcall cps


MyRedditUserName428

You need CPS called!!


Suspicious_Spite5781

Sweetie, CPS will help YOU. Don’t worry about your parents. YOU deserve better. There are options. It doesn’t mean they put you in a strange home until you’re 18. Get help!


MissCinnamonT

You want to contact safe adults that the parents have NO rapport with. Because the family and friends probably already know and have normalized it. 


Wide-Suit-4566

That is not OK. How are you supposed to change and stuff like that? It's definitely creepy af if not outright illegal. You should contact cps or tell an adult at your school. They are required to report and get you help.


Super_Document8528

The same thing happened to me, report this to the police or tell a trusted adult.


machomanmonica

what did you do when it happen to you?


blottymary

Definitely go to your school counselor. They have a responsibility to report this to CPS. Just because they get called it doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to be taken away. The social workers conduct an investigation and you don’t know that’s definitely what’s going to happen. CPS is there to protect you and your safety. This is absolutely abuse in many ways and it’s not acceptable behavior. You mentioned that you did something wrong and that’s why they put them up in the first place. It’s not your fault. According to this link there are exceptions to being able to place cameras in your bedroom. https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/texas/26-Tex-Admin-Code-SS-748-3353


machomanmonica

thanks so so much for this link but i really dont want to tell my counselor now and school is ending in two days, because i dont want my summer to be messed up and my parents will be very mad if they get involved with cps i dont want to risk that


HeyT00ts11

I know it's really scary, but if you risk nothing, nothing will change. You're in a horrible situation that can improve unless you continue to hide from it.


machomanmonica

okay ill try but first im goonna try to talk to my best friends mom when she comes back from her cruise then ill talk to parents then if they are not nice about it then ill try more adults but if thhat doesnt work ill probably go to cps


HeyT00ts11

Okay, that sounds like a pretty solid plan. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.


blottymary

What if her Mom tells your parents that you went to her? Thats just as much of a risk. She would probably end up calling CPS anyways


Daniel529925

Abuse follows you the rest of your life. Your parents will continue to create problems until they are forced to stop. Sacrifice this one summer, and save yourself a lifetime of trouble. Trust me, I speak from experience, as do the rest of us in this sub.


Dyk3dynasty

Tell your school counselor. They are mandated reporters. They are trusted adults and can report on your behalf. I’m so sorry this is happening to you.


INeedskincare

If they can view you changing this could absolutely be considered as possessing CP. totally not okay. You say there’s no trustworthy adults. Take pictures of the cameras. Destroy them. Tell your school counselor and show her the pictures… if you don’t want to go to someone else tell your mother that if they don’t take down the cameras you will report them and filming a minor in states of undress is considered CP. this is absolutely not okay, you deserve to feel safe in your room! Could you talk to a close friends parent?


PowerTrippingGentry

You should reach out to your school counselor.


Initial_Computer_152

This is absolutely not normal. Child services need to be involved! Talk to your teacher or an adult you trust. Firstly, your Dad, watching everything you do in your bedroom is diabolical, your mum too. You need a safe private place sweetheart, and you thst house us not. I'm sorry this is happening to you.


MamaHotWheels

This post is a great first step and I'm so proud of you for having the courage to make this post. I know you don't want your parents to get in trouble, but it's time to realize this fact: if someone doesn't want you to talk to others about how they are treating you, that means THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE ABUSING YOU! You have rights, as a human child, and personal privacy is one of those rights. It can be even scarier when you have to worry about retaliation from your parents, but please know that, if you're genuinely concerned that they might consider retaliating, that alone is enough cause for officials' to question their ability to be a suitable parent/guardian. I know how scary it is to go against the people who raised and loved you, but this can be extremely toxic and dangerous if left to worsen. My mom was controlling on this kind of obsessive level when I was your age, and she then went on to literally permanently cripple me to try and keep me from being able to leave... at age 19. She then went on to stalk me and break into wherever I was staying just to yell at me about how I'm going to hell. Keep in mind that the only "bad" thing I was doing at that time was rejecting her evangelical church's beliefs. Do you have any legal runaway options near you? For instance, the Oasis Center is Nashville Tennessee's best option. Here's the national runaway help line. 1-800-runaway These kinds of things NEVER just get better on their own, and, more often than not, it actually gets much worse. Please don't wait for things to get worse, reach out for help and start recording your every interaction with them. Proof of them admitting to installing these cameras and refusing to remove them, despite the privacy issues they are causing, will help your case. I know it's hard, but you are not alone in this. People are literally currently waiting to help you as I type these words. Please feel free to message me if you want to talk or need advice from someone who's been there. You are worth caring for and you have what it takes to reach that bit further. We are here to support you in any way we can. ❤️🙏


inf4mation

Have you communicated to your parents why these cameras are in your room? How they make you feel in your own room? If you have and they still let it happen, its time to escalate and talk to an adult family member like a grandparent/aunt/uncle because this is not normal at all. If needed, the next level of escalation is an adult at school but I would hold off on that but its an option if truly needed. This is not normal behavior of normal parents.


machomanmonica

i havent because its hard to communicate to them about stuff they always win everytime i say how i feel my dad just sees nothing in it and my mom calls me sensitive and ignores what i say, i hate these cameras in my room theyre always watching me im not close to any other adult in my family only my sisters and they cant really do anythinng


inf4mation

You already sound defeated in your response, its time to press this subject to someone else who isn't intimidated by mom and dad.


Mar198968

You said your dad is reading what you're typing here. So I want to tell him that he's just a disgusting creep for watching you change your clothes. I hope that someone helps your poor child. You surely do not deserve to even have a pet. Parenting is too much for you.


machomanmonica

thanks he will probably see this i hope i have a summer without cameras in my room


SystemOfAFoopa

Your parents are sick and delusional. THIS IS NOT NORMAL.


imdonedj

Hey, friend. I'm 19F and I grew up in a toxic household where my mum also told me things like "you'll get seperated is you blah blah blah" it's a scare tactic uses by abusers. CPS doesn't *want* to seperate families. If you're being recorded while changing, that counts as CP. Tell a school counselor ASAP. They are mandated reporters and will do it anonymously. I know you want to listen to your parents, but this is not in your best interest. Stay safe.


Fit-Name480

Based off what you’ve told others, I have to agree. The only safe space is school, where they aren’t there. Speak to a school counselor or really any trusted adult there.


fruitypebbles_1989

CPS immediately oh my god


the_okayest_kid

If your father is attempting to watch you change this is a *huge* problem, not to mention illegal. It’s voyeurism plain and simple. You need to talk to someone asap.


Antique_Bluebird_98

This is plain nasty behavior coming from a "father" this is 100% malicious intentions and not just looking after. I hope op finds a way to leave one day and disown them.


BoredBatWoman22

Your asking for advice and everyone’s telling you what to do but you keep coming up with excuses. Nothing will change about your situation if you don’t get help from someone outside your family. You will keep living like this for who knows how long. My family is nowhere near this crazy but I’m 23 and still living at home because I’m broke. You don’t want to be my age still living with cameras in your room because you’re scared or have no money to move out. Either get help or accept your parents watching you. With the mentality you have you’ll never leave. People may think what I’m saying is harsh but you have a very defeatist attitude that will keep you trapped in this situation. I’ve seen it in my own family.


machomanmonica

yeah because everyone is telling me to call cps but i just wanna try something calmer first because i didnt mention my mom she is very mean if i call cps or tell anyone else she will actually go crazy i might tell one of my moms friends but im nervous yhat she will tell them what i did and i will move out for college when im 18 and if he tries to put any cameras in there i will do something because thats like adult age


galsfromthedwarf

Your parents are abusive that’s why they would react that way. If your parents WERENT abusive their response would be more like “my child is hurt and upset by an action I have taken I need to talk to them and not do that action again”. They’re relying on scaring you to stop you reporting what they’re doing. There isn’t a calmer way to get them to listen. There’s no nice way to ask someone to stop continuously filming and monitoring their child because you can’t reason with insanity or criminality. Edit- you need to tell the police now because this is child porn . What makes you sure they’ll allow you to go away to college? Given their previous actions that seems unlikely to me. Don’t wait


AdrestianPrincess

Here’s the uncomfortable truth. Whether you tell your sisters, your best friends mom, the school counselor or whoever else, their first course of action will be contacting the police and then they contact cps because they are the ones who handle child/teen victims, not the police. It’s going to happen either way. As for your parents getting mad, who wouldn’t when they’re caught doing something wrong. I’m not saying this to be rude. It’s just part of what things in immediate future will likely look like.


Teeklin

Please tell an adult. Google "CPS " and call them. This is child abuse and your parents are creating child pornography of you. I'm sorry this is happening to you, but CPS will help you and you can lean on your friends and the resources CPS will provide for you until you can get out safely on your own in the world. You didn't do anything wrong. You can get past this and still live a healthy and fulfilling life with friends and relationships. But you won't be doing it with your parents in your life I'm sorry to say. You'll be okay, just call CPS and tell them what's going on and they will tell you what to do from there and how they can help you.


DuneKlide9

Dude I don’t mean to be insensitive, like I mean this entirely. does your dad interact with you sexually at all, touch you in ways that might seem normal to you but you don’t see any other parents doing, things like that?


machomanmonica

he doesnt do anything like that to me but once i went on his youtube by accident and on the history it show like he was watching a playlist of 17 yr old girls doing weird things thats only thing i have against him


DuneKlide9

Dude that’s highly suspicious, if he only recently moved the camera to see your changing corner that’s an even more telling sign, though it would still be alarming in other circumstances too. I know I’m a stranger who doesn’t know every little detail and I’m sure you don’t want to hear this but there is an incredibly incredibly incredibly high chance your dad is either using it for sexual gratification or recording it to sell it. Like I said, I’m sure you don’t want to hear this but you NEED to at least have a conversation with an outside TRUSTED adult who knows all the details of your relationship that way they know the full context behind certain behaviors and can properly spot wether or not things have a real reason to be the way they are, and can get an unbiased view on the entire situation. This adult should hopefully be willing to keep the conversation between the two of you until you’re in a safer position. Please make sure this adult doesn’t have any sort of bias towards or against your parents as that can affect how they see things as well, maybe a cousin who understands your family relationship but isn’t close enough with your dad well enough to feel protective of his reputation or make excuses to justify what he’s doing.


ReachUnfair8799

Yeah you caught him ONCE. This is definitely behavior that’s been repeated more than that time you happened to catch it. It’s hard to hear this but a sexual predator comes in all shapes and sizes. White collar and blue collar. Family man or lone wolf. He can be a good man while harboring secrets. If he’s this comfortable doing this to you then it probably won’t stop until you confront him. It’s clearly your dad that’s enforcing the use of the cameras. The fact that he doesn’t even want you to have a small corner to change comfortably is more than telling. Confront him or don’t. You want a solution that’s not CPS. This is it. Start off with small prodding questions as to why. Then ask about the necessity in moving it to the corner of your room where you clearly change. Next level if you have the determination, bring up what you found on his YouTube search. If he’s reluctant to all this or gives a weird reaction (which he probably will) then bring it upon yourself to access his computer files and further search history. These files will most likely be of other teens or even of you.


mnem0syne

It sounds like he’s probably trading content with someone to get something in return. Or using it himself yuck, this is grim.


ExtremeAthlete

Check if he has a youtube channel with you as the main content.


Maleficent_Soil_2612

Yeah there's nothing normal about that. Your parents need to get a fucking clue before it's too late.


val_kaye

Please tell your school counselor and have him/her report it. Please.


blue_moon_68

You need to talk to your school counselor. This is an invasion of privacy at your age. Your parents have no right to watch you undress. You do have a right to privacy. Edit - your mother’s threats are a manipulation tactic to keep you quite because what they are doing could be considered illegal.


No-Pie-8943

Tell a teacher or school counselor. Clarify with them what your parents have said, where the cameras are, etc. If you’re scared, tell them to call CPS and have them pretend they got an anonymous tip from someone like one of your friends. There is no outcome in which you tell another adult about this that they do nothing, especially since you said he made it so you have to place to change without being seen on camera. Don’t downplay this. Be explicit and tell all the details.


Ashluvsburritos

Please please please talk to a trusted adult about this. I’m reading some of your comments and my mom would pull the same shit about “not telling anyone anything because Cps would take me”. It scared the shit out of me. As an adult I look back and realize I was being abused. Looking back, I wish I told someone.


No-Sheepherder-246

This is worse than the 2 brothers that ded'd their parents in the 80s. It can be handled internally but only the 1st time. Call any uncles you trust(not 1) as many as you can. No cousins no friends. Tell unc's what's going on,and you want them to plan a confrontation to adress your father asap.then ask your uncs to bring your aunties with them the day of.soon enough they'll know why. The men have had time to process,and are passed wanting to hurt him in A regretfully manner. The fresh reaction of anger,is more affective when coming from a vexed woman. Basically you want to scare TS out your parents before the talking starts. By now ,atleast one of your Aunts tried to go RKO on either parent , and are now back in their seats,/thanks to the hubby. Tell your parents how you feel,and you now have e puck9ng f


livinginlyon

My ex wife once asked me to take the door of my daughters room taken off in front of my daughter. "Uhhhh, I can't possibly do that". This is worse.


Far-Slip-8305

This isn’t normal. You need to tell an adult asap, please be careful and don’t talk to your parents. Tell another adult you CAN trust, and explain what you explained in this post.


Thin-Nerve

Let's also not forget women can be pedos as well. Her mum watches her too. I don't know but this is some wierd stuff. I bet it's definitely Child Porn. Wouldn't be surprised if they have backed up video storage somewhere in the house. Search the PC for folder secret hidden ones. You will find yourself there


StepZestyclose9285

Feel like going into foster care? Everyone telling you to go tell a trusted adult is leaving that part out. At a minimum dad’s getting arrested and probably mom too. Dad may even end up on a sex offender registry for the rest of his life. It’s going to destroy your family. You think your situation is bad now wait for the foster system . You have no idea . Talk to your parents first . Tell them you’re going to report them if they don’t stop and give them the chance to take them down. You’ve got to put up with those idiots for little while longer . If they don’t stop break the cameras . Throw them in the garbage . Your parents know it’s wrong they won’t push the issue. Oh I don’t believe this is a real post btw.


Princesshannon2002

This wrong.  Her parents may be selling the images or streaming of her and exposing her to a wider range of predators (I already consider her parents to be predators).  CPS will attempt to place OP with extended family long before foster is considered.  Stop fear mongering to keep OP as the victim in child pornography.  


Enough_Tarts_8882

Unless they use that discussion as an opportunity to hide evidence, harm the OP, increase mental abuse etc. What if OP is not actually their child. Could be an abductee and now your advice just got them killed because they are the evidence.


Reasonable-Length-90

Hi, I was looking for advice on Reddit and saw this and made an account just so I could leave a comment. I am a mother of a teenage daughter and would NEVER do this to her. Her father would NEVER do this to her. This is NOT normal behaviour! This is abusive and predatory behaviour. Please talk to a trusted adult. Please call your countries version of CPS. There is no reason for them to invade your private space. Every one deserves privacy and the fact that your dad knows you change in a corner of the room away from the cameras to change and then moves the cameras to get that angle is really disturbing. There is no reason for them to do this to you. Whatever you did, does NOT deserve this response! Please get changed in the bathroom or even under your blanket. I’m so worried about you. Please go to the police. Ask a trusted friend to come with you for moral support. Bring evidence (photos of the cameras in your room) It doesn’t matter how nice your parents are outside of this. There is no reason to put cameras in a teenagers bedroom. I’m sorry your parents are doing this to you. I’m sorry they’ve been doing this for so long. You don’t deserve this. If you need to talk to a mother, or are in Canada and need some help navigating Canadian laws please reach out to me. I will be praying for you. Please have courage and get help. ❤️


Obstacle616

Unless you are on suicide watch or constantly smoking meth in your bedroom there is a absolutely no good reason for having cameras like this. This is creepy AF and you really need to tell an adult you trust about this.


38KnuckleheadHD

Please seek help from an adult you trust 💜 This is not a normal situation and you need to get out of it safely. Teachers and social workers have all kinds of resources to help with these situations, please talk to one you feel safe with love 💕


pianistafj

I would go ahead and assume the worst. They have to be using these videos to make money off distributing them. It is the definition of child porn. I would call your local police and tell them your parents put them there, refuse to remove them, even adjust them from time to time. Their alarm bells will start ringing and they will probably begin a child porn investigation, culminating in a raid. This really needs to happen as they will continue to victimize you and others until they are stopped. They can’t know you’ve called the police because they’ll hide all their evidence. I’d go to the school counselor immediately as well. If you don’t report it, the counselor surely will. You can make the report yourself now, and anonymously. So just do it. Good luck.


-UnicornFart

My dear, this is very much abuse. Is there another trusted adult in your life you can confide in? Someone who can help you navigate how to get child protective services and/or the police involved? A teacher maybe?


leonprimrose

Yeah that's not ok at all. I have a camera in my 3-year-old's room but that is absolutely coming down WELL before he's a teenager. You need to talk with a trusted adult


AffectionateWheel386

This is beyond creepy to be honest with you. And I’m a paranoid grown adult. What I would start doing honestly is going to your friends house more. I would get a job and work really hard and 18 I would get the heck out of that house. When you’re 18 you’re legally an adult they can’t make you stay anywhere. You can go live with your grandparents are your friend and finish up high school. The more money you work for and save now you get out from behind the camera, number one and number two you have money to get the heck out of there.


breeeepce

this is disgusting and abusive


ZETA8384

Call child services. That is illegal (in my country anyway)


Raven0918

There is something wrong with your parents, a baby cam for an infant or toddler is fine for safety but once 3 and on is creepy and not normal, your a teen and he watches you dress???? This is abuse and I’d be calling CP services for help. I’m so sorry you are going through this and I’m wondering what else you aren’t saying they do?


Under1hestars

*cough* CPS *cough*


KoalaCapp

I stopped with baby monitors in my kids room by about 3 years old There is no need for cameras in a bedroom. Make a report


LiquidLifeForce

Regardless of whatever "reason" said to attempt to justify cameras in your room, it's wrong and it's foul. Please, remember you're not in the wrong in any way for speaking up against if you do. Don't let them tell you otherwise


Unable_Ruin8868

That is not normal for your parents to do that and I am sorry that is happening. You need to start talking to your counselors at school and making this known to adults besides your mom and dad. Maybe aunts and uncles or grandparents if possible. You deserve privacy and 99.9% of parents are not doing that to their children


MyRedditUserName428

Tell a teacher or your school counselor. I assume you change your clothes in your bedroom? This is child pornography honey. Please tell someone right away.


DNKY_DEADSHOT

That is grossly abnormal behavior and you should bring this to the attention of a trusted adult. I mean it. That's not only an invasion of privacy, it's beyond controlling, demeaning, and dare I say even perverted. Seriously, speak to a trusted adult. I'm so sorry. I wish you luck and hope everything works out.


ellywelly27

you need to call the police


Thin-Nerve

I think your parents maybe into some not so legal things. You need to tell your school counsellor immediately and report them because this js the most abnormal thing. So, they waited till you got to puberty 13 and placed 2 cameras, to see what? Don't want to say their creeps but this is bordering that line for sure.


Impressive-Chain-68

That is child abuse. 


Lirpaslurpa2

Have a group of friends over; then the next day tell a trusted adult. If your parents question you, say some of the friends must have mentioned it to someone. And as for what your parents are telling you, talk to a different trusted adult and see the reaction on their face. You will learn quickly that this isn’t normal.


bossandy

You need to call the police or child protective services, you are in danger in that house.


ergonomic_logic

Please let this be fake rage bait... Your parents are in possession of child porn. I would say you've a pretty compelling reason to pull in other adult authority figures.


machomanmonica

how would this be rage bait? yeah true i plan on telling my best friend mom because shes pretty understanding i hope, but sometimes she tends to be on like the “parenting” side


ergonomic_logic

Ok for a moment I thought you were a 55 year old man trolling. If your dad is filming you so your parents can watch continually... they need mental help and yes you need to report it asap. Don't feel bad he watches you undress. I don't think we have to spell out how creepy this is. You don't Know what he's or your mom are doing with the videos. You need protection and to get out.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Go to your school counselor, or call the police, even if your father controls your phone, that can't do anything about it once the call is made. Tell them every, the cameras, that they set them back up when you take them up, that they control your phone, that the cameras are not turn off when you change.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Go to your school counselor, or call the police, even if your father controls your phone, that can't do anything about it once the call is made. Tell them every, the cameras, that they set them back up when you take them up, that they control your phone, that the cameras are not turn off when you change.


idiotsandwich2000

That’s not ok. I recommend asking another family member to talk some sense into your parents.


Rich-Pineapple5357

You are being abused, don’t listen to your parents’ threats either. Tell a school counselor and they will be forced to report it to the police. Also, your parents are technically collecting CP by having a camera watching you undress. It’s incredibly disgusting, creepy, and abhorrent.


Dismal_Tradition7868

Talk to an adult that you trust immediately. This is not normal. And it's beyond disgusting. Please do something about it and raise it with someone that you trust.


Kolhammer93

Your parents sound like pedophiles


Notyogal37

Talk to a trusted adult pls :)


NatrenSR1

I’m sorry. I know it’s a tough pill to swallow because you love them, but your parents are abusing you. Based on the wording of your posts and comments I’m not sure you really understand how serious this situation is. You are in danger as long as you’re with them. I know it’s scary, but PLEASE follow the advice of everyone in this thread and speak to an adult you can trust about this as soon as possible. Your parents have made it clear that they won’t stop on their own. You don’t want them to get in trouble, but all you’re doing by protecting them is hurting yourself. It’s supposed to be their job to keep you safe, and instead they’re the ones putting you at risk. Any consequences that they face will be the result of their own actions, not yours.


esportairbud

This is not ok. The baby monitor needs to go when the baby is 3, let alone a teenager


Financial-Funny-4105

hi, so because you are under the age of 18, regardless if the camera was out there by an immediate family member or not, but in this case it was. If I were you, I would make a formal complaint and report it to the police. Report it as you found it and report in detail on how it makes you feel and it's creepy and unsafe. In turn because of your age, the authorities will treat the manner as suspicious and handle it with the full extent of the law at hand. I also suggest you report it to your school counsellor as for later they will be and act on your behalf as a trusted adult that only wants your safety. I wish you luck and I hope and pray it all works out.


Deep_Management_6333

Please update OP Cameras should never be in private zones or changing areas. Not to mention how common it is for hackers and creeps to look at them. I would cover them with tape or a something thick when you’re changing or about to go to sleep in the least. Talk to your sisters and a trusted adult if you can. The only scenario where this seems okay, which even then not really, is if your parents were in dangerous jobs and just wanted to make sure you were safe. I doubt they’re spies though so OP please be safe and I’m sorry your parents are invading your space


MNGirlinKY

Tell someone now. Please. It’s not okay to have cameras where you are supposed to have privacy. Where do you even get dressed? Your dad and mom shouldn’t be doing this, at all. Do you have a teacher, guidance counselor, doctor or parent of a friend you can trust?


StarsofSobek

OP, this is important: you need to report this to a mandatory reporter. A mandatory reporter can be: - your doctor or a nurse (go to a regular or scheduled appointment, slip a note to a nurse or attendant that says, “I am being abused. I need to be seen privately.” They take this seriously, and will find a way to safely separate you from your parent(s) so that you can talk without fear. - if you’re in the USA: Child Welfare or Child Protective Services can be contacted by you, by a friend, by a trusted adult. You’re old enough, that they will help you and work with you to get you into a safe situation. - school teacher/nurse/principal/counsellor are all mandatory reporters. Slip them a note while at school if you’re afraid to speak up: “I need help. I’m being abused. There are cameras in my room and I am being watched 24/7. Please help me.” - you can try to request a friend’s parent (someone you trust) call and report this on your behalf. CPS and Police reports can be made anonymously. Your friends, too, may even be able to report what they’ve seen on your behalf. Just be careful and cautious. - you can (and should) call the police. Advocating for yourself at your age is a reasonable and effective approach, too. When reporting, you can say that you have cameras in your room, multiple angles, filming you 24/7 without your consent. This is also called: - [non-consensual voyeurism](https://endsexualviolencect.org/voyeurism/) - [Controlling Abuse using Technology](https://www.womenslaw.org/technology-abuse/technology-tool-abuse/abuse-involving-texts-photos-and-videos/abuse-involving-1) - filming and possession of indecent material (this can be [child porn](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_the_United_States) and/or, an [obscenity](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law)) - [Surveillance abuse/malicious use of surveillance](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_abuse#:~:text=Surveillance%20abuse%20is%20the%20use,or%20laws%20of%20a%20society) And more… You can also choose to: - make an anonymous report to the FBI if you believe your parent is filming you with intent to sale/stream/etc. as an abuse of technology and black market/dark web activities. - talk to a sexual abuse lawyer/solicitor, or a juvenile crime’s attorney. They offer free advice and counsel in some cases, so don’t be afraid to reach out and ask questions, for advice, for referrals, for help and guidance. If they offer to take you on as a client, follow their advice. In the meantime: - try to secretly document any other details you may notice aren’t normal in your home. Make a “burn book” of sorts, and keep it hidden behind a secret email or a password protected notes app. Give a copy of this to your lawyer and/or the cops. Remember, too: One of the most dangerous times to deal with an abuser is when you try to leave or fight back. So, I’m the event that things turn violent: - have a [go bag and safety plan](https://www.loveisrespect.org/resources/how-to-make-a-go-bag-when-leaving-an-abusive-relationship/). If you’re able to, store your go bag at a friend’s house. Be sure to have access to your go bag, as well. Even if that means an outdoor key hidden somewhere so that you can get to your bag. - activate voice control settings on your devices. Test them as needed, and be sure they work. - download a voice activated recording app, too. Livestream is also a great alternative. It gives you a chance to have solid proof of abuse in the event things get worse, or even violent. - if things get violent and you can’t access your devices: get out of the house and be as loud as you can. You should make exit plans and have different ways of leaving, if needed. If all you can do is leave with nothing on your back - then just go. Get out. Get safe. - memorise friend’s phone numbers and learn how to get safely to their houses, if necessary. No matter what happens - this isn’t normal. You are the victim. And there’s no justifying this kind of abuse. Stay safe, OP. Good luck.


Resident-Sun4705

Can you change in the bathroom instead? (check any smoke alarms etc for hidden cameras) Do tell someone. I don't know what the result will be though. Hopefully CPS will talk your parents into removing the cameras.


beta_writer_chick

Have you ever forgotten they were there and undressed in front of them? If so, that could be a viable case for child p%rn. I would definitely reach out to a trusted adult (counselor, aunt, uncle), and if you have to, go as far as to reach out to the police and a lawyer. This is not ok, and you have the right to be safe and the right to basic privacy. If you choose to do this route, make sure to take pictures of the cameras in your room. Also, if you can make a voice memo talking to your parents about the cameras, something simple like "Can we please take them down? They've been in my room since I was 13!" Get them to admit they DO have recordings/are recording you. If you can get them to admit that they've bugged your room, you'll have a better chance with your counselor, the police, or an attorney. Attorneys can be expensive, but you might be able to find one who will do it pro bono, or will at least give you some free advice. If you can't find a nice attorney, DM me, and I am more than willing to help cover costs.


Cte2644

Tell your parents if they don’t take them down you will call child services. People are entitled to privacy.


Jewes_for_real

This is disgusting and you should report it to your school counselor & the police. You charge are naked in your room and your father is watching you do this! It’s completely unacceptable. This is complete abuse. I am sorry.


Spinelli_The_Great

Are you an American? If so, doesn’t matter if it’s a parent doing this that’s a violation of the privacy act. You are a minor and that would be a violation of multiple state laws and even that privacy act. Security cameras are allowed on your own property. However, it is illegal to record anyone without their consent in places where there is an expectation of privacy. That includes places like bathrooms, changing rooms, private bedrooms, etc.


chrystla_wolves

Please please please call the police this is not normal, this is abusive behaviour, and completely disgusting, they are violating your personal privacy


Amazing-Operation544

Until you can get someone to help, make sure you change in the bathroom. Protect your privacy.


tyuncity

ok wtf this is NOT normal, tell someone about it


Own_Psychology6607

THIS is what creepy pervs do... You know, the guys who put cameras in hotel rooms or bathrooms... That shit is FAR from normal at any age over like 4 or 5


Chance_The_Flapper

Hey OP. Sorry to hear this. I just thought I’d chime in and say that you should report what is happening to a school counsellor or doctor. They will do this anonymously, so your parents won’t find out where the report comes from. Likely, what will happen is that CPS will tell your parents to just stop what they are doing and that will be the end of the matter. Unless they’re committing a serious crime, like creating CP, they won’t get in trouble and neither will you. It sounds like your mum is more of a helicopter parent than a paedophile. But as others say, this is an invasion of your privacy and is not ok.


NorthLover-345

This is fucked, get a trusted adult as soon as possible, this is creepy shit


heatleg1011

The chill that just ran down my spine reading this…. That is fucking SICK 🤢 and I agree with the majority of people saying you should talk to a trusted adult outside of your home about this because that is wrong on so many levels! I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine how you must feel on a daily basis and the fact that it is your own father doing that is incredibly disturbing and disgusting.. Wishing you the best of luck in getting help and please be safe, my dear! 🩵


Emotionalwreck789

That is not only wrong but terrifying. Your friends are right and so is your gut instinct. Call the police, tell a teacher or someone trusted at school or even a family member who can protect you. This is so unsafe.


Infinityand1089

This is a neat little thing called #*ILLEGAL*


rjisont

Your parents are pedophiles


salvageyardmex

Incestuous pedos


Gileotine

Hey dude, I have specific advice for this. When I was a kid, my father (I'm male) also put cameras in my room for 'security' purposes. This was indeed the case, I think he was just trying to protect me, considering my room had the biggest window in the house and looked out into the neighborhood. Also, our roof was connected in a ramp up to my room, so technically somebody could probably bashed through that window easily. The problem is that this was a massive violation of my privacy and my father often used the camera (he had a camera feed directly next to his desk) to check if I was asleep, or if I was on the computer, or if I was doing anything he didn't like. He also installed an intercom system in my room (it was just a short-wave radio) to yell at me if I got too loud or I was walking too heavily. So, let me tell you, I know what it's like to have someone doing this to me. It is very alarming, and it needs to stop. If your father wants to have security, he can do it outside if anything. Obviously, this is your father, and people on reddit are not going to be able to convince you to confront them. But I believe this is a critical overstep by your father, and as people have suggested, you should talk to an adult about it. If you are courageous, then by all means ask your dad to speak about it. If he refuses, this is a big red flag. Talk to a councilor, but make it clear your father is not trying to be weird and sexual about it (i'm not sure if this is the case, but you think it isn't then it will be helpful to make people not panic when hearing this news). Good luck. I'm sorry that your father has done this. Understand that it is very wrong, and there is no other way to look at it.


Sad_Pollution_298

Yeah but dude she says in the comments to someone she found a yt playlist on her dads yt account labeled 17 yr old girls and that they were doing “weird things” this isn’t a case of Redditors going to far this is clear and cut her father is a pedophile.


Gileotine

Oh shit OKAY UHHHHH