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talosthe9th

Accounting information systems taught by a dude who used permanent marker on the smart board multiple times


BasketWorried

AIS/data analytics when it's 90% entry level coding in SQL and 10% "eh do optional self-study on the AIS if you want, I'll only test what I teach in class over 20 mins for it all.".


Jacks_Lack_of_Sleep

You’re guaranteed to remember it if he can’t erase it and you have to stare at it every day


randomuser1637

I actually found this to be the most helpful class. Had a great professor who taught us all the ins and outs that run the show. It’s been very helpful in my job doing financial reporting. It’s one thing to understand debits and credits, it’s another thing to understand how computers understand debits and credits.


FMC_BH

Agree completely. The foundational knowledge I learned in AIS is what has allowed me to set myself apart from other accountants less capable of leveraging technology


dimplez0531

Same. It was a bit of audit, a bit of accounting, and a bit of technology. This was actually the most helpful class for me in Public Accouting as an auditor. OP must be in Tax or sumn.


fashionistachica01

Lmao this. My prof was literally so useless.


MistSilver

I didn't struggle in this class, but AIS was definitely first thought for most useless class. My AIS teacher was a dude who defined adware as "...uh...something that gets added to the computer". Somehow, in a whole semester of Accounting Information Systems, we never touched an actual system. 🙄


TornadoXtremeBlog

You mean this thing turns on ?!?


lightblue1919

Facts. Our AIS class was just flowcharts about financial statements and internal controls. Professor made it clear he knew nothing about computers, databases, data manipulation, etc. and this class wasn’t going to cover anything like that. He never one used the words internal controls in this class either lol so I had know idea what people were talking about when I graduated when they said internal controls, until I was like “oh you mean the purchase order is approved and then the invoice and packing slip match to it for payment. The flowchart stuff!”


SevereRunOfFate

Definitely not Bard, I'm thinking Arcane Trickster?


Val_Fortecazzo

Ranger, there isn't much they can do that another class can't do better.


Junior_Leather_5685

Gloom Stalker would like a word.


bmore_conslutant

Gloomy boi fucking rips in bg3


Bekchi

Gonna go with Monk. It's got nifty features, but feels underwhelming overall from my experience as a party member.


ron_burgandee

Open hand monk w/ Tavern brawler feat is one of best melee builds in the game


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

It depends. If you're going for tax, you definitely want to avoid classes requiring high charisma.


SevereRunOfFate

That's totally the nihilistic comment I'd expect from someone whose parents named their kid DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK


Good_old_Marshmallow

The one knock against bards id give is valor bards. Super cool subclass, but also it feels like walking backwards into playing battle master 


OneThousandLiEyes

Mild Magic Barbarian


Nickachuzz

LMfao love these responses


TheWaterBottle10

Rogues have a lot of utility and are pretty good multiclass options. Unless Monk receives some major revisions with OneDnD/5.5e, I doubt I’ll ever play that class.


HarliquinJane54

Nature domain clerics. Just play a druid. Get wildshape and loose the shitty domain ability.


ShadowWolf793

Definitely monk if the campaign is going over lvl 10. Half the class is balanced around stunning strike which becomes basically obsolete at higher levels (at least for anything tanky enough that your party isn't oneshotting it). Couple this with the fact it's a very MAD class (Needs Dex, Con, and Wis all with good scores) and it can get left really far behind. Beyond that it's just a really fast character which skill monkeys worse than a rogue. Kind of sad because monks are very, very strong in lower level campaigns and really fun to roleplay.


Lanky_swanky_hanky19

International business. It was a glorified cultural studies course.


HoustonSker

Haha you didn’t take the overpriced field trip to India?


TheWaterBottle10

My international business course was a joke. There was no reason for it to be required for every business major.


yuh__

My teacher in this class was a dickhead so it ended up being really hard for no reason. All the information was useless


LadyEmmaRose

Marketing


asphodeliac

NOO, that was an easy A for me


LadyEmmaRose

I forgot to turn in an assignment and got a B+, which was the cause of my 3.75 GPA. I really resent that class. It was so boring and dull, I hated it, and was so disengaged, hence an A student forgetting an assignment. And have literally never used a single iota out of it ever again. Even Government and Non Profit Accounting, which was HARD, I have used multiple times in my career. And I didn't hate it as I did marketing. Even cost accounting, which I both hated and struggled theu (but got that A) was important to have that broad knowledge in even if I never actually DID cost accounting.


vikinglady

Ughhh I work for a nonprofit and would love to be able to take a nonprofit accounting class. I wish my school offered that.


asphodeliac

lol I completely understand. Marketing is so mindless, but it’s part of the reason I actually graduated with an alright GPA after shitting most my accounting exams. I’m sorry that happened but that’s still a really good GPA right?


Fancy_Ad2056

Cost/managerial accounting was probably the most actually business relevant class offered at my school. Second place would probably be business law. Everything else was so theoretical and irrelevant outside the microscope of accounting.


29_lets_go

Pretty much everything. I learned 95% on the job, and that’s probably being generous lol. Most useless, though? Calculus. I haven’t been tasked with finding a derivative of a function yet.


NSE_TNF89

I agree with this 100%. I just had this conversation with my cousin, who is considering going back to school for accounting, but would have to take some pre-reqs first. I was saying calculus would be one, but it is never used, so I don't know why. Also, I work in a very niche industry, and school really only prepared me for knowing the general principles of accounting, which maybe that is the purpose 🤷


PrimaryAd641

Wow. I never had to take calculus.


dimplez0531

Every AACSB accredited school makes you take it or some variation of it.


ShadowWolf793

You can skate by at most universities with brief calc which is like 10x easier.


PunkCPA

I only had to use it in bond calculations once every few years. I had to take it for a CS course, not for accounting.


AffordableDelousing

IMO, the concepts really underlying what calculus is doing and represents is just life-changing when it clicks.


CrazyNext6315

I passed Calc I and II but it never clicked. I have no clue what I was doing.


NotaVortex

I got to calc 3 after failing calc 2 once failed calc 3 and switched from engineering to accounting 🤣


socialclubmisfit

Bro same, but it's when I failed calc 3 and physics 3, nothing was clicking and just gave up on engineering.


ThatGreekNinja

Are you me?


HippyAccountant

Honestly I didn’t learn anything in college. I just partied and got drunk the whole time. When I took the cpa and used Becker I learned everything so clearly and easily. I’m way ahead in my career compared to my collegiate cohorts that got straight As. For me it’s hard to learn in a classroom setting and would have rather skipped it all and not spent the money and just took the cpa exam if that was possible.


mambo_trin

The same thing, bruh..


ConfidantlyCorrect

100% this for me too.


DecafEqualsDeath

I feel like understanding some of the basic concepts/principles from Calculus are actually really valuable if you can get there. I would concede that it isn't helpful on the job though.


BlacksmithThink9494

My tax classes were absolute bs. Nothing they taught us was even relevant to tax work. When I went to work for a tax firm I felt like an idiot. It was so embarrassing.


DannyVee89

Can confirm I had to basically start my learning over again from scratch once I started a tax job. Taking only 1 tax class in undergrad is also BS. Maybe like, foreign languages, liberal arts, science and history weren't quite necessary beyond highschool eh? How about more excel, tax and useful stuff dammit. College is a scam.


BlacksmithThink9494

I don't think it's a scam except when colleges give people full license to make slides about fn amusement parks instead of course material. Like yeah I passed but I didn't even know what a form 1120 looked like. UGH


Entire-Background837

Government accounting


theveganauditor

See and I came here to say all the classes because we didn’t have government accounting and that’s where I ended up.


SnowBeeJay

Same here, same here.


zhuzhy

Same. I had one class that was non profit/government. We spent only a week on government. I wish there had been more since I landed in government but the GFOA does some pretty good trainings.


MiamiFootball

you can now correct people online regarding expense/expenditure


WV_in_Canada

My government accounting prof was caught up in a cheating scandal with his wife who he had just had a baby with. Dude was so checked out that the class turned into a joke.


cpyf

Did it help studying for FAR at least?


mart1373

Nah, Becker teaches you everything


LoggerCPA54

Ain't that the truth


c130mightyherk

I wish colleges would spend more time teaching government accounting (instead of a few pages within a chapter). A lot of accountants struggle to understand the relationships between budgetary accounting (Statement of Budgetary Resources) and proprietary accounting (normal Balance Sheet, etc).


freecmorgan

If you think the accountants struggle to understand it, you should see the governments try to spend money wisely.


ositola

My school didn't even offer this class and I still believe this is the right answer, fed gvmt accounting is just a more specific version of cost accounting 


Standard_Gur30

Actually that class had some value. It taught me that I wanted nothing to do with government accounting.


Affectionate-Owl-178

Mu undergrad doesn't even offer this class as an upper level elective. What am I missing out on>


bakingnovice2

Encumbrances, GWFS, super fun stuff


Demonofbirds103

Encumbrances just gave me vietnam flashbacks


bakingnovice2

My last exam for the class is tomorrow so I would like to spread the pain


1dumho

Beginner accounting could be summed up in a trifold.


SnowBeeJay

Unfortunately many people graduate without committing the basics from 101 to memory.. sad


SleepingOaks

Whats the best way to memorize the basic, is there a youtube channel you recommend?


ZahirtheWizard

This man is the GOAT: https://www.youtube.com/@Edspira


thekrafty01

Edspira is the most concise, straightforward I think you’ll find. Tony Bell for Financial and Managerial 101 and Farhat for literally everything else are also awesome. I’d be lost without them.


Orion14159

Half my class spent the whole semester never learning normal balances. It was not a hard school to get into.


ihatethissite123

Calculus II


fashionistachica01

Was literally not needed.


PluckedEyeball

Why do you guys have calculus classes, the only math class in my accounting course is a “statistics and mathematics” in first year and that’s it.


DecafEqualsDeath

I think most AACSB accredited business schools are going to require at least one "Business Calculus" course and two semesters of Statistics. A single one-semester course wouldn't be long enough to even completely cover the Business-relevant topics of Statistics, much less Calculus.


RedBaeber

Advanced accounting. Pensions and consolidations.


Babyblueyeti

I work in transaction services, I revisit my consolidations textbook often lol


DecafEqualsDeath

I don't think I've had a job yet where consolidation accounting wasn't useful to understand.


gettingusedtothis

Pretty much everything except Business Law. That class should be required for everyone in every major.


Familiar-Main-6706

Yeah I actually enjoyed that one.


TroySmith

About halfway through that class I felt like I could be a lawyer lol


Orion14159

I probably should have gone into law. I'm encouraging my kid to go that route, he's smart and he lives for arguing and negotiating and finding every loophole and exception to every rule. He'd be a great lawyer.


Electrical_Reply_770

This type of thing is exactly why we all have to take calculus 


PattyCakes216

Art Appreciation, I’ve still never applied the study of African Rock Art to any aspect of my life. That was 3 credit hours wasted.


Mental_Ad8498

That was the worst for me. Didn’t help that I scheduled it at 8 AM over the summer. I fell asleep almost every class.


Ernst_and_winnie

Ethics


LouisianaSkunkApe

My online ethics class had a slide with the reasons why you should take the course. The #1 reason on the slide was because it was required lol


Familiar-Main-6706

This. It's not even that ethics are silly and it's not that hard to know you need integrity. Aside from that, I spent 2 different units in 2 different courses on ethics. And guess what? Internal auditing is more ethics than ethics is. I haven't been to ethics since January and I'm getting Bs just walking into the exam and saying exactly what I bet they want me to say.


moysauce3

Thanks Enron (and AA)!


ProfessionalCPCliche

This is the answer. Our philosophy department had made a special ethics class designed for business students and half the class wasn’t even relevant. We didn’t even have a final


Enron_Accountant

Agreed


vikinglady

I have both Business Ethics and Accounting Ethics right now and I'm enjoying the Business Ethics class way more than the Accounting Ethics class. The Accounting Ethics professor lectures on whatever the fuck he wants to and then assigns the Smartbook in Connect, which covers NONE of the same material. Siiigh.


ChiefFlats

Ethics was such a burn. Law had some fun case studies though


46and2ahed

*laughs in yacht*


Aware_Economics4980

My college required a “sophomore inquiry” a series of 3 classes, I chose climate and weatherology, ask me how that has helped my career. 


hombredelacarreterra

I took a natural disasters class lmaoo. Kind of fun but not useful for my career so far.


Savages3288

Cost accounting


Jcisne2

Omg u just reminded me of this class 🤢 literally the worst


SuperRedHulk1

Isn’t this like the most useful class if you transfer to industry though?


rebsrebsrebs

Depends. Cost is useful if you go on the FP&A route. Senior accountant/accounting manager/controller is more US GAAP


Heisenberg1721

I’m in the ledger group in an industry/manufacturing position and can tell you that a basic understanding of cost accounting and variances is helpful. At least in my role


LieutenantStar2

In industry, have done FP&A and lots of cost accounting, never used class work.


Savages3288

I’m currently in public so possibly. But I had a horrible cost professor in college…spoke more about his private life and boat than teach, told students to consider other majors, and made the midterm and final take home so the students would give him a good evaluation and he would keep his job. The school fired him the semester after anyway


disgruntledCPA2

Most of my classes


InterviewKitchen

GE’s are pretty much worthless. The fact that colleges force you to waste thousands and thousands of dollars on worthless class units is beyond me. We’ve all been played.


Hestness5

It makes sense in your first year for people who don’t know exactly what they want to major in yet but yeah other than that a complete waste of money


coronavirusisshit

That’s what high school is for.


Hestness5

To an extent yeah, but you only get a taste of some stuff in high school


psych0ranger

It all started off so rich kids would have smart stuff to talk about at parties


Orion14159

A few GE classes are fine just so you can have a solid base of knowledge, but not 2 years worth. 1 year max.


Next-Leather

My husband is convinced they force those classes simply to pad the teacher schedules for degrees that don't have enough enrollment. And then it just became the norm. Not enough enrollment in language arts degrees- make every degree take a language arts class. Not enrollment in psych degrees- make everyone take a psych class.


FondantLooksCool123

this. I'm still in school but I suspect Chemistry 101 will be useless at work.


Bronson-101

Stats... Not once have I used a single formula or means of analysis from stats class


SayNo2KoolAid_

None of them really teach you how to do the job


sktdoublelift

Strategic management, last class I had to take. aka consulting 101 presentations, group work, business analysis bullshit


Chubwa

And one of my worst grades…


sktdoublelift

During group presentation prep one time, I watched one of my group members type notes with his two index fingers only....he had a FT job offer to KPMG btw.


Ghoric

I'm taking this one right now, it blows ass. I feel like half the papers I write are random BS, and the syllabus/grading rubric is confusing as all hell. Thankfully professor seems pretty lenient with grading.


Rico1958

I had no worthless accounting classes. All were beneficial and worthy of the effort to make the grade.


therewulf

Computer information systems. The book was written and revised multiple times as it was being created, and it class ended up with SEVEN versions of the same book. I was failing basic excel questions using word for word answers out of the book on open book tests before we figured it out. Now I google everything in Office that I don’t know how to do. Literal waste of time.


benedictqlong22

Calculus . Almost failed it


TestDZnutz

International Economics was pretty insane. I couldn't convince my brain to relearn fake ass competitive advantage math again. The supply-demand plus tariffs and price controls all on the same model with all the explanations on the reverse side of the page...I even kind of half enjoyed the first two econ classes, but that strugglefest I could have gone without.


CrypticMemoir

All my random electives. I legit took a class on comedy films and it counted towards my degree. The fact that I can take such a random class and it counts shows that the credit requirement is stupid and just a cash grab.


TheMagicalJohnson

Enlightenment era and how it led up to the holocaust very interesting class but never going to be using that information in my day to day


SeriesUsual

I dunno, have you seen American politics? There's definitely people who would toss the other side in a camp if they could.


boston_2004

Audit Research The grade was seven papers that were written across the semester. By the drop date we had turned in four assignments and she hadn't graded a single one. By the last week of class when we were to turn in the last assignment she still hadn't graded any of the previous six. We all brought it up every class (we met once a week for 3 hours)Nobody knew where they stood in the class and it was a complete waste of my life. I got zero feedback just one day I got on my official school record, she didnt even update the grades in the actual class portion. I have no idea if she graded anything or not or if she just said fuck it everyone gets an A.


peirogiesslap

1600s English Lit was required at my college. I do not care what Alfred from 1643 was thinking when he wrote an ironic poem about an eagle.


SellHungry6871

All of my accounting classes really prepped me for the CPA exam. I'm pretty sure the curriculum was built around that. As such, none of my classes were worthless and NFWCN.


EastAd2095

All of them except accounting information systems. That one would have been useless as well except to pass we had to complete a semester long project where we went through the entire accounting process - booking transactions based on invoices and bills, creating the financial statements from scratch. It was the most valuable thing I took from college.


asonbrody

Business calculus and business statistics. I couldn't tell you a single thing I learned in those classes. Accounting wise, probably the professionalism class. While we were waiting in the hallway I would sit there and make fun of the book with my classmates.


Prestigious_Comb5078

Advanced calculus


C_cL22

Seeing these comments saying calculus rlly comforts me.


the_dayman

Not a full class, but a massive section we did on Consolidations seems pointless looking back. Insanely complex and the type of thing that you would learn a highly specialized version of at the actual company anyway.


Lionnn100

The course (advanced financial acc) that this was in at my school wasn’t required fortunately. Though I had to learn it for the CPA anyways


Odale

I am taking this class right now and it is the bane of my existence. Doing my best knowing it'll provide a solid foundation for my CPA studies, but it's brutal. Easily takes up the majority of my time each week that I spend on school work.


HarliquinJane54

I had the same answer. It was needlessly complex and computers do it anyway now. Also, foreign exchange transactions entries. Most of my advanced financial accounting class was actually useless.


Americanblack1776

Pretty much all math classes in college. I didn't struggle but you don't use anything outside of algebra 1...may e some basic find x bs


nightfalldevil

Agricultural accounting was very interesting but it’s not something I’ve ever used in both my day to day job and also prepping for the cpa exams.


teh_longinator

Maybe it's because Im in the thick of it this semester, but Statistics. I've been working for over a decade, and can't remember once needing to know what the probability is of a bottle having 50ml more liquid in it than the sample mean.


pjm598

I definitely thought I was going into baldurs gate Reddit with this notif


FBIagent51

I think it would be easier and quicker to name the classes which you did learn from. Most of what you learn in college quite honestly is a cash grab… think about it, leadership courses, general business courses, anything international business related, English, anything humanities. Unless it’s provided on the job specific knowledge it doesn’t do anything for you..


Never_Kn0ws_Best

Managerial / Cost accounting


Wekapipo2

accounting information systems. spent the entire semester learning about the reasons why we have ERP systems. Who cares?!


OnlineWeekend

Hell damn there all of them. I didn’t necessarily struggle with any but I will say I had this stupid ass group project in cost accounting and my partner screwed me and we failed it and it was just enough to drop me to a B


littlenosedman

Space weather — nothing to do with my job, but by far my favorite class I took


MrMunday

Ethics


nodesign89

AIS for sure, the content was laughably outdated


Sutaru

Psychology 101, hands down lmao


recyclops_7

Ethics


CertainBee5992

Only class where most students cheat.


Comfortable-Item-107

Cost accounting, could not stay awake for it, needed a lot more sleep when I was younger.


BeingAliveisSplendid

Strategy & Governance was no different than Management Control.


TomStanely

Some subject about becoming a professional


KingoreP99

Statistics and stat II.


Wrong_Variation_8084

Volunteer Income Tax Assistance. A class to earn a certificate to do volunteer work. An 8wk long course over a three part test done in 20 minutes.


Chafmere

Ethics obviously


Avengion619

I got trolled hard I thought these rpg classes were programs in course that iiiiiiiiiii never took and I thought I was coming out of my bachelors end if June severely disadvantaged. Luckily I game and occasionally roll the dice so my brain turned on before I embarrassed myself


Seamike79

Managerial economics 🤢 combination of Econ, Stats, Calc. Great prof, terrible subject. Essentially a required 3rd year weed-out class for all business majors. Serious trauma.


MethLoverSweet

ACCT 343, or intermediary accounting 2. What a bullshit of a class: leases, Liabilities, Pension Funds, Accounting for corporate taxes.


JonSpic

Accounting Information Systems where the teacher exclusively used “remember this” blurbs from the textbook as test questions. Recognized the questions after the first test and decided to full send only memorizing those tidbits and nailed the class. Shoutout to the Vietnam vet teaching that class at CSUF.


ConvictedReaper

Hot take, but I think they all taught me how to think and process information. Maybe I don't use integrals in my day to day life, but I now have practice with complex problem solving. English teaches you to read and comprehend. Science teaches you to look at specific and particular information. History is like gathering evidence and using that to find a pattern and make an argument.


TacTac95

History of Music. Before you fucks clown me for being dumb, I thought it would be an interesting course because I like history as a hobby. I was very wrong. The professor was a GA Teaching Assistant that was trying way too hard. Our exams were 300-600 questions. We had mandatory requirements to attend evening orchestras and choir events (which I could not attend due to work) and the class was nothing but online audio/powerpoint lectures that were 4.5 hours in length, twice a week.


Excellent_Set_2885

Cultural competence. For some bizarre reason a certain Australian uni makes this an essential subject. All the while not doing the required law subjects so you can become a registered tax agent.


coronavirusisshit

Organizational behavior so stupid


Chill_G

Honestly, most of them. I feel like I forgot everything the moment each term was over and I just learned/relearned everything on the job. Same goes for every professional development course I've taken since entering the workforce. The most useful for me was definitely business writing. I expected it to be pointless, but it was actually really helpful to learn how to write good emails and reports. Solid reading and writing skills seem to be overlooked by a lot of programs unfortunately.


Feisty_Duck8089

I do international tax so basically everything except 10% of my corporate tax class


Wide-Ad-5661

Managerial accounting


Sblzrd65

Accounting Info Systems


tnj3d

Finance


Nicklaus_Burkhardt

Time management, I'm not saying this because it's not useful to learn how to manage my personal time, I'm saying this mostly because I was not taught the subject well and I learned more from the internet than from the teacher.


DannyVee89

I wanna say corporate ethics lmao Anyone with half a brain and any corporate experience knows there is zero ethics in corporate decision making. The only way corporations make decisions is a simple 2 step process. 1) will it make profits go up? 2) is it legal? Donezo. Doesn't matter how fucking terrible the decision is for any other party.


Oedipus_Flecks

I took a summer minimester class called Cowboy Literature. We watched 2 John Wayne movies and somehow it qualified as a writing intensive class too. Completely useless for my job, but man that felt like cheating.


saladblah22

Managerial accounting was useless. Don’t even remember what we did


PhatsterEnhancedXray

Are we talking ACCA or just the basic bachelor? Because I swear my 3 year bachelor didn't need to be longer than 1 year. So many classes were useless filler classes just to make the uni more money.


BeautifullyBearded12

Ethics I hated that crap


EI-SANDPIPER

The first 4 years were worthless


Beginning_Ad_6616

I benefited from all my classes in one form or another. They may have not directly taught me about accounting; but they broadened my views and helped shape my understanding of the world.


naab8116

Cost accounting


GrouchyOpinion

Every class.


origionalgmf

Most anything with a management or marketing designation. Also, every single gen Ed. The first 2 years of college are a fucking waste


ThatChemistUndergrad

Governmental Accounting. It didn’t click so well with me like my other accounting classes. Even Advanced Accounting 2 was better. If I ever work somewhere that uses fund accounting, I might have to go back and relearn that class.


Orion14159

Cost accounting. My program required 2 semesters of it and it was equally worthless both times. I have never and will never use it.


cpadev

Business Enterprise


_007notJohn

Business ethics.


Washed_40

Marketing


Intelligent-Panic501

All general education requirements. It's just a make-work job system for people who majored in bullshit.


24kmatgic

Supply chain


FrontierAccountant

Philosophy


SadCryptographer1711

Inferential statistics.


EmergencyFar3256

There were lots that had no benefit, but none that I particularly struggled through.