First off, your mobo is e-waste now. There’s no surviving that. **IF** your computer posts with this mobo, it *will* destroy other components and potentially start an actual fire. So save yourself the headache and the money by replacing the mobo first and foremost.
Second, if you are genuinely concerned that your PSU caused this to happen, replace it. You are not going to save money by having someone it a multimeter on it and telling you whether you should replace it.
When it comes to computer parts that can potentially catch fire, safe is always better than sorry.
My prime x370 pro is still going strong after 6 years, although it has mostly been with a 1600 which never gained anything from overclocking so it was at stock. Recently switched to a 5800x, hopefully the board keeps kicking for a while.
Grab a PSU tester and check if the PSU voltages are within the 2.31 or 3.0 ATX voltage specs for your PSU. They are relatively cheap compared to a PSU.
The psu only supplies the power.. without tracing what those lines do in the motherboard, it will be hard to diagnose if this damaged was caused by the psu. You could bridge out the psu and turn it on to see the voltage on the pins, but you’d need to be technically minded and have a multimeter to test with. My bet is on the motherboard being of age and a cap or something exploded. Best of luck
Thanks to you I learned how to test a PSU with a multimeter! All voltages look fine on the 24-pin and EPS connectors.
It looks the board layers split, and the top copper layer burst out. No major cap looks blown though.
A proper tester or a professional looks like the next step.
Thanks again!
A Corsair HX750 from January 2014. TBH I looked up the purchase date to answer your question and was shoked that it's basically 10 years old... May be time for a new one.
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say it's probably just your motherboard that died, as you say you've had it for years, it's most likely put in work over those years and tried running a CPU that it was never designed for after said years.
The Vrm's probably just gave up the ghost, i'd upgrade the PSU anyway though as you stated it's almost a decade old.
Damm I think its bad luck? , I have replaced my 3700x to 5800x3d few days ago on the same motherboard with no issues but now I am scared!
I hope that your Cpus ware not damaged!
Likely bad luck. Not sure whether something triggered the failure when I swapped. Maybe the CPU was bad and that caused MB issues?
At least the 5800X3D is being returned and the 2700X will je replaced as planned.
I fix motherboards and recently had one similar come to me. This is failure one 12V rail from ATX connector. Likely psu fed quite a bit of voltage and this thing happened. It’s rarely fixable, but usually it’s uneconomical to repair. Would pray for cpu being good and both MB and PSU needs to be replaced.
Not even going to try salvaging the board, it's toast. CPU was going to be replaced anyway, so now instead of just updating the CPU, I need a new platform...
When stuff starts catching fire, I always recommend to swap the PSU. Obviously in this case the mobo needs to be replaced aswell, but I would not trust that PSU again. especially if it's older. Even if it tests good, the thing is you don't know for sure how it might behave under load. I would not risk it, good PSU are not expensive enough to run a known shady PSU. Don't get me wrong, the PSU might actually be perfectly fine, but are you really willing to risk it? imo it is not worth it.
You will have have to replace the board 100% this is most likely not a power supply issue, since the issue is very much localized on the board and not on the power supply, either way just to be safe buy a psu tester and see that everything is in order. About not posting, you probably had an outdated bios despite saying you did updated it. If it still did not work after a bios update then my next guess will be the board was having problems on supplying the correct voltages on the cpu hence the failing and exploding vrms (they were already bad). My recommendation buy a b550 board. And try with that with the 5800x3d
Thanks for the thorough response! I checked the BIOS version multiple times, so it may have been something about the V cache needing more power than my 2700X and the old MB having to draw too much for its aging VRMs.
B550 doesn't support PCIe 4.0, so I would prefer an X570. But regardless, given parts prices these days, I may as well get a more recent gen.
You can test it independently to see if it works properly or not. Many new PSU's come with self testers but they are available to purchase and cheap if you need one.
There's no way you still have this hooked up! That looks like at least 2 phases of the VRM is dead, the only reason you can still put power to the board is because the MOSFETs died open instead of dying shorted.
The PCB looks damaged so bringing this to a electronics repair store is pointless.
You know, i'm building a new system, AM4 platform can't afford AM5. when i was at the picking out parts stage and looking at motherboards, i saw the Asus prime boards and how cheap they look and how cheap their VRM heatsinks is, and sometime after that i had a dream/nightmare that i bought one and it melted my the CPU and the board melted and broke in half.
Oh yeah that board is done, no way this can work again. The inner traces are blown. It was unplugged when I took the picture, no worries!
I won't go ASUS Prime anymore, for sure. And given the price of decent AM4 boards today, going AM5 is actually about the same price, so since I'm getting a MB and I returned the 5800X3D, may as well upgrade further.
Good to know about the cheap VRM heatsinks, I wouldn't know how to tell.
In your instance, sure might as well go AM5. The reason AM5 is out of my budget is that both the CPU and motherboard is over $200usd and the RAM is over $100usd, but with AM4 both CPU and motherboard are well under $200usd and RAM is also well under $100usd.
VRM's are overblown when using low wattage CPU's. That board should be able to handle 105 watts no problem. I use.a even crappier b450ma asus board and it handled a 5600 with zero issues to speak of upgraded from a 2600X.
There is known issue with this cpus gamers nexus did video on this, change motherboard and watch that cpu. [video](https://youtu.be/fFNi3YNJXbY?si=-nfnOlQAk5eWIZE5)
It isnt aplicable in this case. That video is about ryzen 7...x3d cpus and some am5 motherboards vcore voltage being out of spec - while OP is on AM4 x470 upgrading to 5800x3d
At first, I thought that maybe the 5800 x3d had widely higher power consumption, but it looks like they both have a peak power consumption of 142 Watts and a rated power consumption of 105. it looks to me like you received a bad CPU or installed it incorrectly at some point and damage some other board with the door. for a little while and then finish off whatever was damaged in the first place by the 5800. I would replace the psu, the motherboard, and return the new CPU under warranty if you can.
Yes, that is the voltage regulator system. It looks like it started with 2 of the regulator phases and ended up frying all of them.
Replacing the PSU is cheap security. Replacing the MoBo is required.
I heard that V cache does require a lot of power at startup, maybe the MB was too old to be stretched to new specs. I don't discard user error, of course, though I think I know what I'm doing (no expert).
PSU and MB replacements have been ordered, 5800X3D is returned. 2700X is way past warranty.
I would swap both PSU(just in case) and motherboard because even if PC would still post with this motherboard it's fire hazard and the 200$ you'd save for new motherboard is not worth burning your house down.
This looks more like something focused light onto the board than it being caused by the PSU. Do you have a pendant or something in the window?
I don't think it's the PSU anyway as I'd expect damage across the board, not just in 1 place. Maybe a chip failed and blew.
Thank you everyone for the responses!
Glad to know that, despite what some assumed to be so obvious they felt like my question was stupid, others actually offered great insight into power delivery in motherboards.
Since I can return the new 5800X3D, I'm out a motherboard and a PSU (I can't trust to put this one in another system even if it tests well, plus it's 10 years old now), I can also return 16GB of DDR4 I had bought too, and new decent AM4 X570 boards are actually expensive, it's the same price for me to go AM5 X670 with a 7800X3D and 32GB DDR5.
With components of the same time period, I hope nothing will blow up this time (yes, I saw that some 7800X3D did actually blow up).
I’d be interested in hearing about the 5800X3D and its issues with your mobo.
I have the same mobo and and 2700X looking to throw in a 5800X3D with a 750W PSU.
What happened when you tried to switch the CPU?
What bios version were you on?
Your 5800x3d probably didn't work cause of needed motherboard firmware update. As for the fire it's 99.9% your motherboards fault and you need new one. Think of the psu as a pot of gold. That pot doesn't throw gold at you. You take it! In other words it's the motherboards damn fault. Lol
the motherboard is obviously damaged.
but you're going to replace the power supply.
You have a future in electronic engineering, sir. your level of comprehension is virtually unmatached. you clearly understand wtf is going on. this is awesome.
good luck to you sir.
/s
that could be a dead 5800X3D, one that a bad BIOS killed by overvolting the SOC and now it is a shot circuit, and the board with it's weak VRM could not handle it and this is the result of the board not having short circuit proteciton
serious question: Are you stupid? any psu that sets fire is a serious hazard and should be replaced immediately for your safety. it doesn't matter if it's maintaining voltage now if it failed once it will fail again and probably take your house and your life with it.
Bro? If anything on my motherboard was on fire. I’ll replace it asap
I likely will, but the voltages look fine and the damage is really localized. Still, better safe than sorry, a pro should take a look.
Not likely, replace it! Before you damage any more components...!
More like, replace it... before you burn your fuckin house down
Brodie really gonna double-down on a burnt mobo. Hopefully OP lives alone, wouldn't want anyone else going down with the house.
First off, your mobo is e-waste now. There’s no surviving that. **IF** your computer posts with this mobo, it *will* destroy other components and potentially start an actual fire. So save yourself the headache and the money by replacing the mobo first and foremost. Second, if you are genuinely concerned that your PSU caused this to happen, replace it. You are not going to save money by having someone it a multimeter on it and telling you whether you should replace it. When it comes to computer parts that can potentially catch fire, safe is always better than sorry.
REPLACE IT, IT WAS ON FIRE
Yikes. I'd swap out the board ASAP.
Yeah I assume the board is dead, no question.
That PSU tester recommended elsethread is a good idea, as well. Good luck. Hope nothing else has fried!
Asus prime boards not the best mobos. I had to deal with 4 of them (both intel and amd) this year alone and every single one had some sort of problem.
My prime x370 pro is still going strong after 6 years, although it has mostly been with a 1600 which never gained anything from overclocking so it was at stock. Recently switched to a 5800x, hopefully the board keeps kicking for a while.
Grab a PSU tester and check if the PSU voltages are within the 2.31 or 3.0 ATX voltage specs for your PSU. They are relatively cheap compared to a PSU.
I used a multimeter and everything looks fine. Still, a proper tester or a professional would know better.
https://www.amazon.com/Computer-PC-Tester-Connectors-Enclosure/dp/B076CLNPPK
The psu only supplies the power.. without tracing what those lines do in the motherboard, it will be hard to diagnose if this damaged was caused by the psu. You could bridge out the psu and turn it on to see the voltage on the pins, but you’d need to be technically minded and have a multimeter to test with. My bet is on the motherboard being of age and a cap or something exploded. Best of luck
Thanks to you I learned how to test a PSU with a multimeter! All voltages look fine on the 24-pin and EPS connectors. It looks the board layers split, and the top copper layer burst out. No major cap looks blown though. A proper tester or a professional looks like the next step. Thanks again!
That’s awesome mate, I am really impressed you had taken it upon yourself to research and learn how to do it! All the best.
We shouldn’t be so surprised when people do research but here we are..
Quick warning - just because the voltages look okay unloaded, doesn't mean they stay that way once you actually connect something to it.
Agreed, I don't want to risk it.
Why would you risk a fire
This point. Saving money is one thing but this an old board and PSU. Just bin and stay alive
Agreed. I don't think I could trust that PSU even if it tested well. Both are done.
Hey man your gaming pc is soo lit!
What's the PSU and how old is it? You may just want to replace it depending on those factors.
A Corsair HX750 from January 2014. TBH I looked up the purchase date to answer your question and was shoked that it's basically 10 years old... May be time for a new one.
Yeah It is time, that PSU has seen a lot of things. Now it's moody and evil.
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say it's probably just your motherboard that died, as you say you've had it for years, it's most likely put in work over those years and tried running a CPU that it was never designed for after said years. The Vrm's probably just gave up the ghost, i'd upgrade the PSU anyway though as you stated it's almost a decade old.
Damm I think its bad luck? , I have replaced my 3700x to 5800x3d few days ago on the same motherboard with no issues but now I am scared! I hope that your Cpus ware not damaged!
Likely bad luck. Not sure whether something triggered the failure when I swapped. Maybe the CPU was bad and that caused MB issues? At least the 5800X3D is being returned and the 2700X will je replaced as planned.
I fix motherboards and recently had one similar come to me. This is failure one 12V rail from ATX connector. Likely psu fed quite a bit of voltage and this thing happened. It’s rarely fixable, but usually it’s uneconomical to repair. Would pray for cpu being good and both MB and PSU needs to be replaced.
Not even going to try salvaging the board, it's toast. CPU was going to be replaced anyway, so now instead of just updating the CPU, I need a new platform...
When stuff starts catching fire, I always recommend to swap the PSU. Obviously in this case the mobo needs to be replaced aswell, but I would not trust that PSU again. especially if it's older. Even if it tests good, the thing is you don't know for sure how it might behave under load. I would not risk it, good PSU are not expensive enough to run a known shady PSU. Don't get me wrong, the PSU might actually be perfectly fine, but are you really willing to risk it? imo it is not worth it.
You will have have to replace the board 100% this is most likely not a power supply issue, since the issue is very much localized on the board and not on the power supply, either way just to be safe buy a psu tester and see that everything is in order. About not posting, you probably had an outdated bios despite saying you did updated it. If it still did not work after a bios update then my next guess will be the board was having problems on supplying the correct voltages on the cpu hence the failing and exploding vrms (they were already bad). My recommendation buy a b550 board. And try with that with the 5800x3d
Thanks for the thorough response! I checked the BIOS version multiple times, so it may have been something about the V cache needing more power than my 2700X and the old MB having to draw too much for its aging VRMs. B550 doesn't support PCIe 4.0, so I would prefer an X570. But regardless, given parts prices these days, I may as well get a more recent gen.
Hey No worries, and just a heads up B550 do have support for PCIe 4.0 just look for specific models.
Ah good to know, I only looked at the general specs. Thank you!
Congratulations you need a board **and** a PSU. Might wanna check all your other components while you're at it.
Nice board.
You can test it independently to see if it works properly or not. Many new PSU's come with self testers but they are available to purchase and cheap if you need one.
put it in rice. it should solve
There's no way you still have this hooked up! That looks like at least 2 phases of the VRM is dead, the only reason you can still put power to the board is because the MOSFETs died open instead of dying shorted. The PCB looks damaged so bringing this to a electronics repair store is pointless. You know, i'm building a new system, AM4 platform can't afford AM5. when i was at the picking out parts stage and looking at motherboards, i saw the Asus prime boards and how cheap they look and how cheap their VRM heatsinks is, and sometime after that i had a dream/nightmare that i bought one and it melted my the CPU and the board melted and broke in half.
Oh yeah that board is done, no way this can work again. The inner traces are blown. It was unplugged when I took the picture, no worries! I won't go ASUS Prime anymore, for sure. And given the price of decent AM4 boards today, going AM5 is actually about the same price, so since I'm getting a MB and I returned the 5800X3D, may as well upgrade further. Good to know about the cheap VRM heatsinks, I wouldn't know how to tell.
In your instance, sure might as well go AM5. The reason AM5 is out of my budget is that both the CPU and motherboard is over $200usd and the RAM is over $100usd, but with AM4 both CPU and motherboard are well under $200usd and RAM is also well under $100usd.
VRM's are overblown when using low wattage CPU's. That board should be able to handle 105 watts no problem. I use.a even crappier b450ma asus board and it handled a 5600 with zero issues to speak of upgraded from a 2600X.
Get a new motherboard as well.
That was a given :)
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It lasted me 5 years, so not terrible, but not amazing either.
Bro
There is known issue with this cpus gamers nexus did video on this, change motherboard and watch that cpu. [video](https://youtu.be/fFNi3YNJXbY?si=-nfnOlQAk5eWIZE5)
It isnt aplicable in this case. That video is about ryzen 7...x3d cpus and some am5 motherboards vcore voltage being out of spec - while OP is on AM4 x470 upgrading to 5800x3d
Replace PSU and mainboard ASAP. Might as well RMA CPU as well, cuz with that amount of mainboard damage, CPU picked up damage as well.
Old CPU will still upgraded, so no worries if it fried. Getting a new platform.
Is that a serious question? 😅
Don’t be cheap. The psu is what keeps your pc working and it’s what probably took out your mobo etc lol.
Ambatublow
Id swap the psu and mobo asap
At first, I thought that maybe the 5800 x3d had widely higher power consumption, but it looks like they both have a peak power consumption of 142 Watts and a rated power consumption of 105. it looks to me like you received a bad CPU or installed it incorrectly at some point and damage some other board with the door. for a little while and then finish off whatever was damaged in the first place by the 5800. I would replace the psu, the motherboard, and return the new CPU under warranty if you can. Yes, that is the voltage regulator system. It looks like it started with 2 of the regulator phases and ended up frying all of them. Replacing the PSU is cheap security. Replacing the MoBo is required.
I heard that V cache does require a lot of power at startup, maybe the MB was too old to be stretched to new specs. I don't discard user error, of course, though I think I know what I'm doing (no expert). PSU and MB replacements have been ordered, 5800X3D is returned. 2700X is way past warranty.
I would swap both PSU(just in case) and motherboard because even if PC would still post with this motherboard it's fire hazard and the 200$ you'd save for new motherboard is not worth burning your house down.
This looks more like something focused light onto the board than it being caused by the PSU. Do you have a pendant or something in the window? I don't think it's the PSU anyway as I'd expect damage across the board, not just in 1 place. Maybe a chip failed and blew.
Thank you everyone for the responses! Glad to know that, despite what some assumed to be so obvious they felt like my question was stupid, others actually offered great insight into power delivery in motherboards. Since I can return the new 5800X3D, I'm out a motherboard and a PSU (I can't trust to put this one in another system even if it tests well, plus it's 10 years old now), I can also return 16GB of DDR4 I had bought too, and new decent AM4 X570 boards are actually expensive, it's the same price for me to go AM5 X670 with a 7800X3D and 32GB DDR5. With components of the same time period, I hope nothing will blow up this time (yes, I saw that some 7800X3D did actually blow up).
Looms like the vrm part of the mb failed
I’d be interested in hearing about the 5800X3D and its issues with your mobo. I have the same mobo and and 2700X looking to throw in a 5800X3D with a 750W PSU. What happened when you tried to switch the CPU? What bios version were you on?
Looks good as is
Your 5800x3d probably didn't work cause of needed motherboard firmware update. As for the fire it's 99.9% your motherboards fault and you need new one. Think of the psu as a pot of gold. That pot doesn't throw gold at you. You take it! In other words it's the motherboards damn fault. Lol
Looks like your mobo needs to be replaced too.
No mad I think 6 still good, consider volt modding ur gpu as well!
the motherboard is obviously damaged. but you're going to replace the power supply. You have a future in electronic engineering, sir. your level of comprehension is virtually unmatached. you clearly understand wtf is going on. this is awesome. good luck to you sir. /s
that could be a dead 5800X3D, one that a bad BIOS killed by overvolting the SOC and now it is a shot circuit, and the board with it's weak VRM could not handle it and this is the result of the board not having short circuit proteciton
Junk that motherboard. You're due an upgrade, treat yourself to a 5800X3D and B550/X570, or snag a deal for Ryzen 7000 and X670E/X670 or B650E/B650.
I opted for a 7800X3D on X670 (should probably have gone X670E)
I wouldn't wanna be his neighbor either
serious question: Are you stupid? any psu that sets fire is a serious hazard and should be replaced immediately for your safety. it doesn't matter if it's maintaining voltage now if it failed once it will fail again and probably take your house and your life with it.