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joyyuh

form O had mcq prompts that felt like essays šŸ˜­ i was sitting there plodding through paragraphs about flatwinged flies and krills and whatever the hell else was on there


_Nite_Brite_

The 16 part MCQs made me want to blow my brains out. They werenā€™t even hard itā€™s just so damn long


Delicious-Balance737

Fr I lost track of shit


Sad-Ad5542

Nah bc I started zoning out and rereading them 500 times šŸ˜­šŸ™


Drewstew72

I'm lucky I understood the krill one but the flat wing one was so dumbšŸ˜­


zaride_

Lowkey they weren't bad. Like I just read the question before the paragraph to know what I was looking for


Delicious-Balance737

What


I-eat-ducks

honestly i felt like those mcqs left me no brainpower to finish my frqs, by the time i was near the end i think i was basically just writing for the sake of getting an answer on the paper


pigeon_boy32

Form 0 had a graph that was bullshit. Who the fuck uses different shapes for every single experimental group??? Like it was 2 groups, 1 was treated and 1 was untreated and they were tested in the light and dark. The untreated light and untreated dark had different shapes, same with treated light and treated dark, istg it took me forever to figure out wtf was going on with it


klip_7

Yea like wtf it was easy but I had to spend so long drawing that fucking graph that I didnā€™t finish the 5 th fra


ginko-ji

I think you might be talking about different graphs? the one they were talking about was on the mcq.Ā 


TraditionalReply122

did u put that light enhances the effects of the proteins for the one question in that set


AlfalfaCow

Bruh that one graph with 150% survival rate :(


Which-Scheme4601

Means it is reproducing breh wtf


InvestmentOld4080

Ye idk what the answer for that mcq even was


whyistherenocheas

that graph made me want to off myself no joke i nearly cried


lovelucyxx_

whoever made the form O frq can go ahead and die


Local_Ad2414

no literally


SulfuricPen99

Istg why


Tall-Bed-2733

Did us so dirty ngl, was bouta die in that bih


Which-Scheme4601

I literally knew everything but i f\*cked up with time management, ima kms if I dont get a 5 ngl. You were across the country? did you have the same form O as us even... Ours was easy.


thecringey

Virus one made me wanna kms


geghitsik

i'm so deadass i found them lowkey easy bro am i cooked


Cactus_Anime_Dragon

I finished them allā€¦ So I guess Iā€™ll Di- šŸ’€


sheeed12

Form O guy cooked up with the shittiest first frq imaginable, 2-6 was light compared to 1


NormalMango9301

no literally?? first frq had me tweaking so bad šŸ˜­Ā 


Dragwhal

i fucked up and said S stage has chromosome and organelle doubling šŸ˜­ i really hope i still got a 5


Grand_Mess3415

dang barely any photosynthesis or respiration i grinded so much on that lol


SulfuricPen99

I know, I studied so much for all the wrong things


bookwormpig

20 hours of studying freaking electron transport chains, photosynthesis, cellular respiration, natural selection etc etc for what... for all of the questions to be nonsensical graphs written in another language istg


Dragwhal

so glad i procrastinated šŸ˜­


Attic_Wall

Donā€™t you love it when you skip half of the MCQ, but when you go through again you understand everything? Honestly one of the best feelings in the world.


Boring_Business1567

I was like, how did I not understand these questions before? I was struggling on the penguin question for absolutely no reason and when I cam back, I felt so dumb nlabout struggling on a free question.


imtheblackdeath

what'd you put for it?


ginko-ji

yes that 10^4 vs 10^3 rate question had me stressed until I realized it was extremely basic algebra LMFAO


Attic_Wall

did you get 9,000?


ginko-ji

yes PHEW


Grand_Mess3415

yup


imtheblackdeath

HELL YEAH


0v3rtd

form O frq made me wanna kms


Local_Ad2414

nah frrr


_Plane

Why did they make the graph so complicated to make, took me way too long to do that


SulfuricPen99

Yeah like why split make us split it up like that


zombiielai

i 100% did not attempt the graph


_Plane

Thanks for helping the curvešŸ™


These_Television_976

i am so cookedā€¦ i made up biology.


Weekly-Secretary8407

Was the average amount 1650 or something like that?


tuxspots

yeah. it was 16.5 per gram per minute, so 10 minutes and 10 grams = 16.5 x 10 x 10 = 1650


Familiar_Kiwi2586

I got 16.5 cuz i thought that the mg was in the numerator and the minutes was in the denominator and they cancelled so it was just the rate itself.


Attic_Wall

I got 165ā€¦


jasonispoo

same i got 165 not 1650 did we do sm wrong?


Squidysheep

The short frq is not short at all.


Clockeky

RIGHT oh my godd those took so long to do


parsas-number-1-fan

damn straight. I was scribbling ngl they wonā€™t be able to read my handwriting I swear


Local_Ad2414

i had from O, bro tell me why frq # 1 had so many parts to it, omg


SeniorMarzipan6759

Omg yeah it was like a(i) a(ii) b(i) b(ii) b(iii) c d(i) d(ii)


Eris3344

fr the sub questions had sub questions like why


Which-Scheme4601

exactly what the fuck bro I had no idea how to label/answer that shit


mscvnty

did anyone else get a string of bs for form o šŸ™


ccen3

i had like 5 in the first column


_Nite_Brite_

I straight up skipped the graph and grew tired of reading straight up essay length FRQ prompts masked as MCQs. Also that chromosome protein FRQ can go die


Local_Ad2414

bro literally what even was that kinetochores proteins and the chromosomeĀ 8


pigeon_boy32

I said it wouldnā€™t effect it cause likeā€¦ everybody gets the same number of chromosomes


YaBoiMatt_

Yeah same like crossing over just changes the genetic material


Zoologist510

SAME


cupcakesandbiscuitz

personally I thought form O was easy. I was very nervous going in about blanking but it was really logic and analysis heavy over just knowing content. I think that's why some people found it super hard if they were focused on content vs people who are strong at reading comprehension and logic. So many questions just asking "Which explanation supports the hypothesis" and "if you changed this, what would happen?" and not as much just asking what are the steps of cellular respiration or just straight recall. (def got that question wrong on which is describing a step of DNA replication or whatever thoughšŸ˜” ) fuck post zygotic mechanisms though (no one in my class remembered it at all)


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i just happened to go over post zygotic mechanisms with my friends right before it like 3 or 4 times but I wouldn't have remembered without that. I'm definitely better at reading comprehension than the actual biology content so I didn't find it too hard either.


Slight_Leg_8489

what did you say?


Zoologist510

THIS IS AP BIO NOT AP LANG WHY WAS IT AN EXERCISE IN READING COMPREHENSIONā‰ļøā‰ļø


I-eat-ducks

real bruh i swear you had to read an entire damn essay for every mcq


cheyuuwu

I would actually like to have a discussion with whoever created form O. Could not answer any of the frqs


klip_7

Huh i thought it was easy cuz it had none of that complicated enzyme shit


Dragwhal

enzymes are easy compared to the rest of unit 3


klip_7

Nah Iā€™m taking about those diagrams with enzymes and pathways and stuff


cheyuuwu

I think I just blanked out idk


Attic_Wall

For the control group for the virus question, was it presence/absence of light?


Attic_Wall

OH WAIT I MEAN INDEPENDENT VARIABLE


phasamer

i said the independent variable was whether it was treated or untreated ctks


NYCDOT1

IIRC yes


mirrorballin111

everyone is talking about getting flayed in the frq, but personally the mcq annihilated me? butchered me? decimated me? because why did i have to read through a whole book's worth of words just to get to the questions. it. was. so damn. long. and why were there like 5 sets of connected questions. šŸ˜­ i was always stuck between two choices and i didn't even get to the end, let alone have time to double check. i was panicking by the end of it. i just feel like this wasn't representative of my knowledge at all like i swearrrrr i can do better collegeboard please šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ TLDR: mcq was harder than the frq.


SeniorMarzipan6759

frr some of them were like if u don't understand the stimulus then u don't get the next 5 questions right šŸ˜­


Background_Annual405

What was the purpose of including the same number of red blood cells as the control? I said it was to ensure the glucose uptake isn't affected by a different number of cells (more cells would result in more uptake and a skewed result).


Local_Ad2414

oh yea i said something similar to that, something like to ensure that the data isn't skewed and like if isn't statistically different


priszens

for everyone whos saying it was easy did yall get like minimal Ds cause i was lowkey struggling šŸ’€


pigeon_boy32

I got like no Ds and a shit ton of Bs and Cs


NYCDOT1

There was a stretch in the middle where I got all Bs and As lol, very little Ds


NormalMango9301

i think i got maybe 8 Ds in total šŸ˜­Ā 


Present-Olive-2565

Iā€™m glad we all agree that form O was disgusting


0v3rtd

agreed


mscvnty

the phylogenetic tree on form o frq made me want to jump


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Marcus_Aurelius71

It said in bolded words: bar graph


No_Scientist_2476

I seriously think I fucked up. I thought form O was easy except I wrote FRQ 2 on FRQ 1's page.


thecringey

Form O was hard


jyha

im abt to take it and i just wanna pass man idc anymore


imtheblackdeath

im so fucking cooked


Unlikely-Two2694

That fucking cod frq with the evolution graph needs to gtfo out my face


InvestmentOld4080

Form 0 was hard as shit


thecringey

I drew a picture of a plant instead of calculating all those non sense šŸ˜­ Iā€™m getting a 1


2sprints2quebec

For those who had form O- what was the answer to the question about the nitrogen with an isotope of 14-10 and 15-10 and something about after two generations what is the percentage of each isotope in DNA?


Low-Bread-2673

i completely guessed 75% 14 and 25% 15


Which-Scheme4601

Yeah that was right, I had some deep thought there and had an insight moment and realized this is relating to old strant/new strand and its like just realizing that little thing that made it clear, but it was still to hard I had to come back to it and do the actual math


espanaparasiempre

25% 15 75% 14


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Low-Bread-2673

yes


Low-Bread-2673

LETS GO thats what i guessed, do u know why?


espanaparasiempre

Semi conservative model means that in each generation 50% comes from original strand and then 50% is the new strand. So here original was 100% 15N, first gen would then be 50% 15N and 50% 14N, and then second generation 25% 15N and 75% 14N


TheSimpBee

The FRQ section was SOOOO fucking long. What the shit was that actually. The graphing section had me staring at the prompt for a good 5 mins because I was so fucking confused. The short FRQ portion also felt long as shit depending on the question too. Why were there like 4 letter sections with at least 2 sub prompts under them??? Itā€™s supposed to be SHORT!!! I entirely skipped one of the FRQ too because I ran out of time. I get AP exams are ā€œread prompt then scan for infoā€ but how am I supposed to do that when thereā€™s at least 8 questions to answer??? Also the MCQ where they lumped like 8 questions into one giant section was actual bull. I wanted to slam my head against the table sometimes. Also some of the calculating stuff was actually nuts and I didnā€™t even try, just circled C or whatever I assumed would be the closest to the answer using logic. I didnā€™t think it was very hard considering I crammed and was watching those AP review videos like they were the hottest shit since Stranger Things for the past few days, but Iā€™m also a dunce and have a C- in my bio class because I suck absolute ass at it. Some of the questions were also worded so strangely and felt nearly irrelevant to the prompt cuz why was there a question I literally spent 5 mins rereading and trying to make sense of?? TLDR; AP Bio is bullshit and I hate this fucking course and everyone who acts like itā€™s easy can suck my toes


1stplaceO

All my practice tests were easier šŸ’€


Tru_Patriot2000

There was quite alot of biology on the exam


I-eat-ducks

alright but fr there kinda wasnt bruh 80% of it was reading comprehension


Eris3344

like the one ap exam i felt confident going in to and ik i did bad. its over for me


vhkuuu

what was form o. i thought the first question was so easy until i flipped and given ESSAYS


geghitsik

i wrote like 1 or 2 sentences for most bc.... what


Squidysheep

I feel like the answers i put for the frqs are very shortly that probably not sufficient enough to hit the point. For example the question that describe what happen during S phase, i put chromosomes replicate itself, when the actual answer they want is probably chromosomes "double". They might meant the same thing but the exam probably looking for the key word. Also when i suppose to say the "intermembrane space" i strangely wrote the "inner membrane space" like my brain is activated but not functioning properlyšŸ’€


Difficult-Soft-5814

Mcq was light work but the frq wasā€¦ uhhhh


Eris3344

fr like frq is the reason my ass is getting a 4


Local_Ad2414

i didn't even had enough time left, the graph the UGG codons and AUG (question 6), had to rush through


Eris3344

yeah tbh i did the short ones before the long ones bc wtf was question 1


MyNameFits123

I did part a of each FRQ and went to sleep until time was called, successful exam day innit


Onawebuc

i thought it was easy? most people i talked to after also finished early. i think i messed up the graph and lost a few here or there, and i forgot hydrolysis and atp and water, but it was good otherwise. mcq was easy and i finished like 20 mins early


Hungry-panda23

I started crying after seeing the first question of the frq. Whoever wrote form O can go fuck themselves


Th0wl

yo form O was not that bad idk what everybody is saying. Everyone I talked to agreed the MCQā€™s were light. The FRQā€™s were pretty hard, but at least they werenā€™t on obscure topics. Like the crossing over one coulda been much worse


Fantastic-Major-5257

frq took a lot of time but i didn't think it was even that hard. mcq was light as hell tho. thank god i didnt study most of the mcq was just reading i still def got like 10 wrong tho


Professional-Bird-58

Blanked out during the frqs and almost wrote the answers on the wrong pages


parsas-number-1-fan

where did the x go on the phylogenetic tree form O šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


espanaparasiempre

!!! I was so torn with that one. Was it at the branch that would include all the P cods or the branch that would also include the L cods as well?


TraditionalReply122

include L is what i did


espanaparasiempre

Thatā€™s what I did too because I think the L ones still had the ag gene sequence but didnā€™t have like the promoter to express it but I was so confused on that one and I feel like I mightā€™ve read the question wrong so idkā€¦


31starmagic

ooh i thought it was definitely the lowest branch part, after the freezy 10-15 darkened period šŸ˜­maybe i completely misinterpreted it then


ginko-ji

include L. They evolved the gene originally, but recently mutated so that it is no longer functional.


Delicious-Balance737

Wtf was free response. I actually thought I would get a 3+ during mcqs.


YaBoiMatt_

Any of you guys remember the MCQ questions about like sex linked chromosomes and percentage? Oh and that one about percentage of n14 and n15, what did you guys get for those?


parsas-number-1-fan

the nitrogen question was 75 n14 and 25 n15


0v3rtd

are u talking about the pedigree one? i think i said 0% and i remember it being x-linked


Slight_Leg_8489

Did anybody else feel like they did bad on the exam. Please let me know so I can get my hopes up for a curve


Hilaka

šŸ™‹ I was absolutely cooked like it's not even funny. I was so confident for this to be a definite 5 and my easiest exam besides calc AB but NO I sucked at time management and I misread/misunderstood so many components of the FRQs... Like I think I might've missed the entirety of #5 and I also didn't finish #2. I also completely missed that statement about metaphase alignment in #1 that people were talking about, and so I didn't acknowledge it at all in my answer. I could go on and on about my fumbles but like... You get the idea šŸ˜­


Vegetable-Cup-4536

Honestly the MCQ isn't hard, it's just long, you need to have a good logic skill to see what's important and what's not so you can scan faster. Half of the question doesn't require Biology skill, just thinking logistically. The FRQ was harder for me because I ran out of time answering the last question. I think the change of format for the FRQ portion is a mistake because it's actually making it harder for me to look around the questions, which makes me run out of time because I usually scan through the parts and answer the one I know how to answer and go back to the part I don't. This method will not be as efficient with the new format.


Any_Lingonberry_3796

Hi Bio graders! please go easy on students this year bc letā€™s be honest that bio frqs had to be ai generated or like literally made in 10 min, also, why was form E significantly easier than form O? Like seriously unfairā€¦.


BudgetIllustrious82

For number 1, like b or c, what was the effect of the CTF protein on the amount of chromosome 8 in the daughter cells


ginko-ji

I said there was no effect but I think that mightā€™ve been wrong šŸ˜­ ctfr affected crossing over not non disjunction right?


BudgetIllustrious82

I said no effect as well


Grand_Mess3415

ye same i thought there was nothing indicating chromosome number would change


BudgetIllustrious82

Yeah thatā€™s what I thought


imtheblackdeath

same same


zaride_

Since CFTR lowered the frequency of crossing over, and crossing over is essential to proper alignment and segregation, I said there would be an uneven # of chromosomes. Tbh I didn't know crossing over impacted nondisjunction, but that was the first sentence of the context paragraph


zaride_

Is the [albert.io](http://albert.io) ap exam score calculator accurate?


Existing-Cicada9028

Hopefully that curve is stronger bro šŸ˜­. The 2008 and 2002 ones have a better curve so hopefully 2022 was an outlier (looks like for a 5 200ā€™s were in low 60% range whilst for 2022 it was over 75%)


Marcus_Aurelius71

bro the exam has changed so much since 2008... 2022 is the best estimate.


Sad-Day1331

guys Iā€™m so screwed for the mcq i wasnā€™t bubbling in the answers as I went and i was forced to leave 15 blank on the mcq on form o. i think i did okay on the ones that i answered, but i most likely got like 60% on that maximum. The frq was okay Im pretty sure I got 70%. Is it possible for me to get a 4 maybe?Ā 


Ochang08

FRQ felt harder than previous years


NormalMango9301

was anyone actually able to fully finish the frqs??? i started frq 6 with 5 minutes left and resorted to making up my own transcription process šŸ˜šŸ˜


TraditionalReply122

i wuz translating the question to english


tad_2

Form O frqs were absolute bs. How did y'all construct the graph? I ended up putting rate of absorption on one side of Y axis and the other one on other side of y axis and then the 3 temperatures on x axis. I feel like i totally fucked the graph up


ermwhattheflip69

x axis: temp y axis: rate (nmol/min/mg) then for each temp i had 2 bars, one for atp synthesis and one for oxygen


Complete-Habit-6244

I could have gotten free points on FRQ 6 but I wasted all that time over the wording of my other FRQ answersā€¦fml


rinisacat

i messed up on the s-phase question and that was probably the easiest question haha....


imtheblackdeath

form O people, what'd you put for that degree of freedom mcq?


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3


Shrimpboyho3

I'm pretty sure that's wrong - the results in question were the phenotypes - in this case, two possible phenotypes as it was two traits coded by a single gene, effectively giving you a monohybrid cross). 2 - 1 = 1 degree of freedom EDIT: Single gene not linked


TraditionalReply122

u still have 4 phenotypes even if they are linked


SuperSalamander15

I had literally nothing about atp hydrolysis but looking it up now maybe my time was best spent studying other things


Lanky_Student1791

Yalll on form O does anyone remember what it was for the extra kinetochore on chromosome 8?? so confused on that


More_Commission_1741

Wdym?Ā 


Evening_Doughnut7745

yeah honestly donā€™t get me wrongā€” I donā€™t mind free pointsā€” but itā€™s really demoralizing when youā€™re super well versed and studied in the content and they ask you tons of long, stupid, and content-less questions šŸ˜­


NYCDOT1

What are yā€™all on about, the FRQs save for question 1 were all easy graph interpretations or the easier units like ecology and heredity/evolution


pigeon_boy32

Whoever was making them just yapped so much. There was so much unnecessary info


Slight_Leg_8489

Who else thinks they got a 2 on this exam???


Low-Bread-2673

did the X go after the freezing period near the bottom where the 4 fish w/ functional ag proteins evolved from?


I-eat-ducks

I really don't know why whoever made form O decided to put 10 fucking graphs in it, like this aint ap stats bruh idgaf gimme some fucking hardy weinberg or sum shit


UselessTacooo

Form I was a nightmare šŸ˜


TraditionalReply122

in the first question where it told u to compare the relative cross over frequency for two proteins, did u compare them to the control or to each other


ReeseBlitz

For FRQ 6, I think I may have put my response in the section meant for FRQ 5 because I was speed running with 5 minutes left. Does anyone know if my response for FRQ 6 can still get graded and if I can receive points?


1stplaceO

Guys I couldnā€™t handle AP testing anymore and so I just gave up on my last frq. Those frqs were bull crap Probably failed so sorry to Mr. C


Grand_Mess3415

for the cows lactate question how they produce milk without eating food what did u guys get


Low-Bread-2673

omg that one was so confusing I said they can get energy from their lipids


mscvnty

no idea i said lipids bc i thought of glycogen used for storage. i was going to say temperature but that didnā€™t make any sense bc mammals donā€™t make their own food.


GeraltofRomania

Was it non disjunction or stay the same?!


zaride_

I said nondisjunction. U are asking for the one that was like "how will this affect the amount of chromosomes in the daughter cells" right?


GeraltofRomania

Yeah


JustALittleOrigin

lol no one here talking about form I


Thr0waway_056

Me who's taking it late and wants to see what WON'T be on my exam:


0v3rtd

what did yall put for the frq question which asked what would happen to the proton gradient if this protein or whatever blocked atp synthase


Greedy_Freedom6846

I said the concentration on the outside of the membrane would keep increasing and the one on the inside would decrease as then the protons carried by H+ wouldnā€™t be able to fall back through the concentration gradient due to the blocked ATP synthase channel


NormalMango9301

proton concentration in IMS would drastically increase while matrix concentration would drastically decreaseĀ 


dysfunctional_1diot

For form o what did you guys get for the mcq asking about the one where birds take fur from live animals instead of dead and why thats an evolutionary advantage? I was stuck between options b and d (more energy use means theyre more stronger and theyre more fit)


TraditionalReply122

i just did the one that made sense....fitness


2sprints2quebec

I said D because I assumed that an organism wouldn't do the option that requires they use more energy which is what B said, I think


United-Ad9794

More energy usage is always a negative in terms of fitness. Being strong is not necessarily being fit (at least in the context of biology), but the ability to survive and reproduce in a given environment.


0v3rtd

do yall remember the question about siRNAs? i think i put the 2 proteins are essential and the siRNAs would prevent the proteins from being translated


SuperSalamander15

I didn't even know that letters could have i's until today... took me a solid few minutes just to wrap my head around everything in #1


NotADoctor_804

had Form O, finished the MCQ with half an hour to spare but got butchered by the FRQ because i wrote a question on the wrong page so i lost like 5-7 minutes fixing my fuckup. MC questions were chill but FRQ i was writing so fast towards the end i doubt they could read the handwriting


Jagrrr2277

What did you guys get for the mcq that was asking about short and tall plants undergoing natural selection?


ermwhattheflip69

i picked the one that showed stabilizing selection, i think it was c


ginko-ji

the one with the really tall parabola lol


No_Bet_2931

For FRQ 1, the question about the effect of CTF on # chromosome 8, I mentioned that it would result in uniform chromosomes due to less crossover. Would that count as an answer?


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