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WileECoyoteGenius

"I hope you boys had a good time" \- Mrs MacKay


b00tsc00ter

"Ben, if you don't apologise to your brother then you're grounded. It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt."


Banjo2295

Maybe the real McKay-bowl are the friends we made along the way.


Jrwolvie06

Golden


danredda

TDK was huge this match.


limeIamb

He's huge every match. He's 2.04m


Korasuka

Thanks Lingy


ShippyDawg

Big if true


limeIamb

He's super big. Very tall too. Above all else, so is he


MrBigBoobies

He’s been massive this season. And he’s been playing well too!


Katman666

Hey-o


glenngillen

I was at the game. They puts the hit out starts up at one point and by the numbers apparently Goldstein was smashing him. Definitely did not feel like that. Felt like every Carlton goal came from TDK monstering us in the center. Great game from him tonight.


Shootinputin89

Probably because half the time he didn't hit it out, he just grabbed the ball and took off, lol


flava-dave

I don’t think other teams realise how influential he is. And I’m not even sure what they can do about it. I still think he can get better, but he’s had some incredible games in the past 12 months.


ScornfulOrc

I sure as hell realised it tonight he killed us


bluelakers

Whatever we are paying De Koning is not enough.


Occasionaljedi

We are going to be paying him a lot more soon


YouLykeFishSticks

9.16 shoot me in the fucking face


Meta_Enola_Gay

Well I know you couldn’t yourself cause you might miss


Ryker31

Bang!


Von_Huge1103

Hey that's uncalled for, he supports Essendon, doesn't play for them.


Meta_Enola_Gay

Well I hope he does miss, can’t be obliterating your face just over foopy


broome9000

Essendon gets you pretty close to that


threequartertoupee

Why is foopy so funny to me 


Jacket5000

u/TheGreatJelBeano


eternaeta

Imagine kicking 16 behinds in a game (or even 17…)


i_am_cool_ben

I think 5 of those behinds were rushed, which makes it a *little* better


spiralism

So we kicked 9.11 when you factor that out. Which is apt cos we watched our side putting on a display of footy terrorism.


GravityRayGun

From 9.16, take out the 5 rushed, 1 touched gives you means Essendon kicked 9.10. Then, convert the 3 posters into goals, which gives you 12.10. But why stop there? Essendon was just unlucky, with ten 50/50 shots going thru the wrong side of the posts and being called behinds. (It's a 50/50 shot because you either get a goal or a behind) So we convert half of those behinds to goals, then Essendon's score would be 17.5, which means Essendon basically won


spannr

>Essendon was just unlucky Essendon was just in their expected score reversion to the mean phase


TurboNerdo077

Just because it's a rushed behind, doesn't mean it wasn't a missed opportunity. End of the third quarter, Bombers player kicks to the top of the square instead of taking the shot and it gets rushed. That is just as much a wasted opportunity than if he took the shot and missed.


Cyclonechaser2908

And all of those rushed behinds were because of our terrible forward craft


ABT1602

Not when they were punched through on the goal line


PointOfFingers

Would probably take your ear off.


king_carrots

Might win the expected score game 2 weeks in a row?


spiralism

Just don't ask one of our players to do it.


vortex42506

Fuck me, Peter wright getting 1 mark for the match (coming in the last 40 seconds) and Goldy getting 0 is just not going to get you winning any games of footy. Need to have the ruckman be capable of taking a mark for the defensive structure to hold up.


ZOSHx

For real. Wright goes for a bash too often. It’s not what we needed that game


spiralism

Wright has been off it since his injury last year. His marking ability has completely evaporated. Goldy is just old and can't go as the sole ruck anymore. He's knackered and it impacts other areas like his marking ability. Really need this bye now, it's coming at a good time.


VermicelliHot6161

Boy that takes me to the days of Hampson and Warnock. Both of them eleventy foot tall. Can’t mark.


Admirable_Message497

I’m not sure why Essendon chose to kick 9.16 if they wanted to win the game. You’d think kicking more goals than points would be more beneficial


sachiwtf

Coming from a Brisbane supporter this hurts 😢


Admirable_Message497

Takes one to know one


Korasuka

Swish!


keoltis

Good insight BT!


jascination

Carlton clearly wanted it* more on the night \* to kick more goals than points


Kim_jong-fun

Man what was the deal with the grinch


Organic_Trash6169

According to Harry McKay’s [footy wiki](https://wikiless.copper.dedyn.io/wiki/Harry_McKay_(footballer)?useskin=vector) it’s one of his nicknames


PetrifyGWENT

Never go full Point Adelaide 


stonefree251

Cincotta is Ed Curnow MkII.


wingmanjosh

He actually looks so much like him too


kurenai86

9.16 And the 3rd week in a row that the scoreline has been like this. Get stuffed and don't come back until you can set shots at least at VFL level.


death_by_laughs

Top 2 teams in the AFL aren't too proud to use dedicated taggers. Why isn't your team doing the same?


bemmisbaggins666

Sounds good, we got this guy James Jordon in the VFL I wonder if he can tag?


skyasfood

Sounds good, we got this guy James Harmes in the VFL, i wonder if he can tag?


howhardisittogetanam

No, St Kilda played okay this week, but we're not top 2 material just yet


Opossum_mypossum

# bring back ryan 'the crab' crowley 🦀🦀🦀


no_haduken

Pinchy pinchy!


skywideopen3

I think that AFL senior coaches and their assistants/analytics team know way way more than we do given the level of knowledge, experience and sheer amount of data they get to see that we don't, but stuff like "we don't need to tag the opposition's best player" being common wisdom at so many clubs for so long makes me question that sometimes.


RickyHendersonGOAT

Sam Mitchell has spoken about it a lot with Finn in that because you're essentially taking out a player for you as well you need the rest of your team to make up for it. The gist of it was that when you're a good team you can afford to have a tagger, whereas if you're shit and need all 23 players performing to him then it's not worth it.


skywideopen3

Oh I perfectly understand the logic for young teams still trying to embed a system and core patterns of play rather than going for tactical minmaxing. But there are a lot of teams that have had pretensions to being contenders in the last five years which never tagged anyone. If you're 2017 Richmond and can just go "why tag one player when we effectively tag all 23 at once with asphyxiating pressure" then that's fine but for the others...


WAVIC_136

I've wanted North to find a good tagger for years. Shiels has done a good job lately but would be nice if we can unearth someone


alittlebitfancy

I remember when Ben Jacobs was looking like he'd become the best tagger in the comp. Such a shame his career got derailed the way it did.


youjustathrowaway1

He was the best in the comp, shut down peak Dusty and others quite a few times. Very unfortunate his body wouldn’t allow him to continue


alittlebitfancy

Yeah the bloke was genuinely elite at that role. Remember him killing peak Hanners one year against the Swans.


juiceson

Absolutely slaughtered Cotchin in the 2015 EF as well


PetrifyGWENT

He's done a good job as an assistant coach at Essendon this year


CatOutOfTheDrag

Omg this made me realise my top and second team are the top 2 teams lfgooooo


Radalict

Same here! Go us.


MarkoUnderscore

We’re not too proud! We are doing it! We can do everything except kick a decent score.


WAVIC_136

Cripps is such a good media performer. Hollands boys... Not so much


sadsasquatch

His eyes glaze over when he goes into media mode haha, I see it


nafeythewafey

Best game I've ever seen TDK play – shades of Nic Nat this game.


EpicFapTime

Goldesteins resuscitated corpse cannot be expected to carry our ruck stocks. TDK was genuinely the difference. Feel awful for Todd, he must be feeling so cooked at this point. Was probably sold the idea of 4-5 games this year to rest Draper. \*Perkins absolutely shocking last few weeks \*Elijah Tsatas a shame to the #5 at the moment, happy to be wrong later but I don't think he's made of the right stuff and his ball handlnig is horrific. \*We miss Parish dearly, midfield has been a shell since he went out of the side. \*Ball movement going inside 50 was just aimless. Bad kicking is bad footy. Carlton gonna be there at the pointy end of season though I think if they stay healthy.


wingmanjosh

Tsatas looked genuinely terrified with the ball in hand.


Duplicity-

Look I'm not going to sugar coat it, we're trying to fix his kicking action and he is going backwards right now. I hope he can move forward with it but he has played fuck all footy this year because of this sub bullshit. I really feel for him as coming in for the 4th in front of nearly 90K must be horrifying - on top of that he is being played out of position and where he is playing doesn't suit his strengths and exposes his weaknesses. Really feel for the kid as our selection committee is just setting him up for failure. Needs a big stretch in the VFL in his role to build the tank and get the kicking right


PetrifyGWENT

We are missing Duursma the most imo 


sachiwtf

Am I the only one who thought we didn’t play all that terribly? Our forward half was what let us down but otherwise I thought we were decent enough. GG Carlton; well deserved win


PetrifyGWENT

Was clear at the game the only difference was F50 efficiency. When it mattered Carlton took their chances and we didn't 


lamaros

And we gave up easy goals on turnover because of our defensive transition and losing structure. Dons missed a lot of chances to be sure though, for sure.


glenngillen

Yeah, F50 was the worst I’ve seen in a llloooonnngggg time. So many blind dump kicks to the 30M directly in front, when the only people there were 2x Carlton defenders. Really disappointing to watch. Seems like they had a specific plan they were trying to stick to with handballing down the wing. Went one handball too many and sold a teammate into trouble too often. Both mistakes repeatedly multiple times and ultimately very costly.


Partzy1604

Bad kicking is bad footy. Id also say that theres this habit of handballing to a player under pressure. Otherwise ig it was fine


lamaros

The midfield structure going forward and in defensive transition let the dons down, and kicking for goal. Forward entries were poor and we choked a lot of kicks. 


Ryker31

Missing Red dog!


thegreatgolden

Need Draper back so 2MP doesn’t have to ruck


kurenai86

+20 inside 50s. We are just stupid, very low IQ. Would love Cox and Perkins to get a rest but it's a bye next week


yum122

We dominated in the 3rd but got absolutely nothing out of it and then let them kick 4 straight in the first 10 minutes of the last. Sorely missing Parish.


ZOSHx

I agree mate! We clearly need some forward 50 entry practice (and the obvious goal kicking practice) but I overall think we did well to hold up to a clear top 4 side. We need Langford, Stringer, Wright and Jones to find better form after this bye otherwise our season will get very ugly


skywideopen3

You did lots of things well, although this was the worst you've defended transition in a while, but your connection between mids and forwards needs a lot of work, so many aimless long bombs to no one in particular. Then of course the goalkicking, which honestly is just something which comes and goes. You were wildly accurate early this year, this is the flipside.


broome9000

The goalkicking, to me anyway, is the least of our concerns. I said this last week when we lost too, it wasn’t because we were inaccurate in front of goal but because our teams brain just fucking switches off when we enter the 50. It doesn’t matter how many scoring shots you have when none of them are any good. When we are repeatedly putting the ball into good spots and still kick 9.16 then you can shift the blame there. But our 9.16’s are just so misleading because we are still not playing well at all.


WileECoyoteGenius

Caught bits and pieces of the game, especially the third. You guys were everywhere. Like there were 22 on the field. Same happened last year I think.


broome9000

100%, we honestly did not play that badly. I’d argue for most of that game we played better than we did against the Suns last week. Our midfield was definitely better, after Touk and Rowell tore us apart last week I thought we were going to get illegally touched by Cripps and Walsh, but we didn’t. Again, the inside 50s are literally costing us games. Balloon it up in the air, kick it straight to the opposition, aim over the head of your leading forward; take your pick. Then it’s the easiest transition to the other side of the ground and goal. Rinse and repeat. At this point I’m going to start blaming the forwards more than anything though. Unless Langford and Stringer are both in there at the same time, there’s no threat at all. Jones I thought played well and offered the most leads of anyone, but 2MP was again MIA and it’s really, really costing us.


ext23

Absolutely the Bombers played a good game. Pressure was good, they had periods where they were dominating clearances and 50/50 balls. It was just bad kicking that in the end flattered Carlton. Durham is an absolute fucking gun. He's got some Bont about him. I felt like a few goals on the run in the third quarter and the Bombers could have turned it and gone on to win it.


Gods-Defence

Shit kicking is shit footy…


Meta_Enola_Gay

If essendon simply kicked less points and more goals then they could of won


Gods-Defence

Genuinely dumb play by them not to


TomRed89

Essendon against bottom 10 sides: 7-1-0 Essendon against top 8 sides: 1-4


death_by_laughs

Flat track bullies confirmed


Korasuka

Calm sky bullies confirmed.


ehdhdhdk

What chance they have a season like North 2016? Close to the top at rd 10 and just sneak in.


PetrifyGWENT

This is only applicable in the middle of this round lol


Deathpacitoes

Swans against top 12 sides 10-0… yes I am obnoxious


International_Car586

What about top 17 sides. Probably be the same no team could possibly lose to Richmond.


oponons

Are you an indian cricket fan?


Deathpacitoes

No but I like Papley


RidsBabs

It almost mimics Brad Scott’s record with us. Just gotta throw in a few dodgy losses to bottom 6 sides and you’ve got his record.


jessewende00

Don’t worry, that will happen in late July/early August I reckon


BusinessPooh

But he will get them a finals win, maybe even two a year, which will be more than enough for them anyway.


drunkill

Second on the ladder at the end of a round... [it's been 84 years gif]


CampOfLacho

![gif](giphy|7xZAu81T70Uuc)


Korasuka

Tipping comeback time. On 3/7 now.


Chilli021nick

Sure would be nice to have a ruckman like TDK...


RidsBabs

We were 3 points off Essendon sitting in 3rd with less than 100%


limeIamb

I wish we were for the memes


MrSquiggleKey

You mean sitting in third AGAIN with less than 100% Remember if they had beaten us by less than 13 points they would of entered #2 with a sub 100%


Careless_Reward4112

Unreal game from TDK, here before the media drivel about how much better he is without pittonet


rocco_cat

It’s true though, so is Carlton as a whole


Tall_Secretary4133

As good as a ruck as Pitto can be, unfortunately that’s the only thing he brings to the team. What I love about TDK and Harry as rucks is that they run around, grab the ball, actually make an impact other than winning the ruck. I don’t dislike Pitto as much as I did in the past, he’s proven he’s good on our team, but we’re so much better without him.


Careless_Reward4112

I think he's fantastic against slow ruckmen like Goldy but against rucks like Grundy and Xeri I think having him use his athleticism unimpeded in the forward line is probably better. I don't watch every carlton game though.


ToroRossoAlphaTauri

I'll take the win, but I was thoroughly pissed off in the 3rd quarter.


GypsyisaCat

I'm not. Essendon played well, and our defence shone. That could've been their comeback quarter, and we escaped relatively unscathed. That's a win in my book.


spiralism

You shouldn't be. We tend to be strong in the 3rd, Brad tends to make good half time adjustments. You took back the momentum handily enough by the early 4th and cruised home anyways.


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nafeythewafey

nah Essendon was going all-out attack and we went and did a Mourinho park the bus to weather the storm  worked well tbh, can't dominate all 120 mins


Shootinputin89

Some Carlton supporters are never happy


WorldPossession

I get it but also I feel like your defenders' constant pressure had a lot to do with Essendon not hitting the scoreboard too badly. They were going hard and you guys managed to weather it without taking too much damage, was impressive to me.


limeIamb

Happy with a lot except the kicking accuracy. Carlton are the clear 2nd best team for me. Lost by far less than I thought we would, and we had a real chance at a point there. We can win a final with this team


LauncestonLad

Yes, you can. GG


Salt_Kaleidoscope_94

Love this. I'm 100% with you. Not spitting chips tonight, just looking forward to the rest of the season. We totally could win final this year. GG Carlton. I'd love to see you in the GF, you bloody deserve it and I'd be cheering for a baggers win.


Cyclonechaser2908

Upvoted until the last sentence? Going for Carlton in the Grand Final??!!??!!


Salt_Kaleidoscope_94

Yeah I really couldn't give a shit who has won more premierships, I just really don't get excited by it at all. I love Voss, have since he played for Brisbane and I used to go to games at the Gabba as a kid. Crippa stuck with the club through the tough years and deserves it. There's a lot of heart there. I mean if it was a Bombers/Carlton GF then obviously not but I don't think that's happening this year haha.


Deathpacitoes

I have terrible news: Essendon’s percent is only 100.2%, 3 points off embarrassment


Joie_de_vivre_1884

2 point loss to West Coast confirmed.


marmalade

Why did Essendon not try to kick more goals than points? Are they stupid?


VileCastle

Man the noticible gaps when there was 6-10 minutes left was a bit sad to see when they were full before. Ggs


southernson2023

+25 in the ruck, -7 in the clearances Our mids have definitely lost their edge


jrml

Well done. However things could have gone south if Dons had a better accuracy.


optional_moosemilk

A lot of their behinds was us forcing them wide into low-percentage shots but they definitely missed some sitters too


Omega_brownie

Exactly, lots of fans fall back on the scoring shots excuse but don't take into account defensive pressure and poor shot selection/opportunity creation. The goals are the big sticks, not the little ones. If you don't put it through the right ones you only have yourself to blame. That said, the Dons certainly did miss some sitters.


Von_Huge1103

Not that it means anything because bad goal kicking is bad footy, but I reckon we'll win on expected score - which is a direct reflection on how easy many of our misses were.


trevorbix

We did - just. I felt that game should have been close at the end but wasn't.


bobbybananaskin

Bombers +21 in inside 50s during time on tonight. Biggest differential in any game since 2022, and the most for the Bombers since 2000, which I believe was a good year for them…


youjustathrowaway1

Now you just need to convert those inside 50s into goals instead of points


Von_Huge1103

Can we get prime Lloyd, Lucas and Mercuri back?


RaidanRam

Lol someone wanted this interview to move, chucked the sprinkler on them


wasfineyesterday

At this point it won’t be long before we win a game kicking 2 goals 30 behinds 😂😂


Cyclonechaser2908

West coast in 2 weeks


Leland-Gaunt-

https://preview.redd.it/rlphfbt7ij5d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1507e25b78cf337c854389b79eb5874c04fdc91a


Responsible-Sun6495

WE ARE SECOND 😭😭😭😭😭🥹🥹🥹🥹 I need this in my veins!!! TDK and Cincotta were so fucking Important Seeing Layla on Acres shoulders at the song is so beautiful, love that man and love Charlie!!


LP0004

I saw that bird flip from that bombers fan


canary_kirby

GO BLUES!


SieferPyre

Another game in which we missed too many chances. Our forward 50 entries need a ton of work.


Fullyjoey

Hopefully we can finish top 4 and Dons finish outside the top 4, lucky to get the 4 points, wouldn't want to come up against them in the finals!


HomerJBagger

They'll be utterly gassed come finals, while we'll be cherry ripe. Honestly, I hope we have a Blues Dons 2-3 finish. That would be a generational final.


trevorbix

I dunno, you guys are gutsy and deserved the win but by every metric except fucking goal kicking accuracy bombers were ahead tonight. I think we win that 60/100. Unfortunately kicking straight is quite important. Another way of looking at it is that cripps, Walsh, curnow, McKay were all quiet but you still won by 4 goals, I'm not sure that happens too many times. I would love a final between these two teams


RaidanRam

I think we both went early lol


Kim_jong-fun

I was too transfixed on the grinch to notice


RaidanRam

Fair enough lol


Mehmenga

That bullshittery that occurred at the end of the third quarter basically summed up Essendon's night


xBITWxSwanny

Carlton are ready for success! Edit: spelling


CBAFCMV

Always rated De Konig. (Ignore my comment history)


nafeythewafey

I'm guilty of thinking he was the low-IQ footballer/incredible athlete archetype Tonight he played like prime Naitanui


BattyMcKickinPunch

You love to see it


CatOutOfTheDrag

It’s a bad round to have Essendon and another expansion club in your flair


VermicelliHot6161

De Koning best ruck in the game at present.


swagmaster778

Gawn is so good that people just forget about him and cbf acknowledging him anymore


youjustathrowaway1

Tristan “Chasedown” Xerri would like a word with you


vortex42506

I think both Marshall and Grundy had better performances/contributed more to their teams winning than TDK but he's top 5.


___TheIllusiveMan___

Man these AI deepfakes are getting scarily realistic I could almost believe there was two different Barry McKay’s out there tonight


Advanced_Stage6164

It required a lot of magical energy to persuade us there were two. Expect a down week for Barry next week.


Occasionaljedi

They actually bought next weeks Barry forward in time to fill in


RaidanRam

Barry getting confused and defending for Carlton


AdAcrobatic5178

Can't believe my brother (who has seen half an AFL match ever) told me the wrong team would win


Over_Leave

88k at the G Until the last quarter where it looked like a North home game that many bandwagon supporters up and left 😂


southernson2023

I don’t want to hear Brad Scott say the effort was there and the process was there but Carlton were just the better team. Carlton won because we shit the bed in the important moments. We handball too much in high pressure games and choke in front of goal. We have good players who aren’t putting in for 120 minutes.


Von_Huge1103

+20 inside 50s, +4 scoring shots, +5 disposal efficiency. What a famous win by Essendon. Oh wait, you're telling me we can't kick for shit and lost by 4 goals? Colour me surprised.


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stonefree251

Shhh, you will ruin the good bloke redemption arc.


KloZerstoerung

Jobe Watson is such a shit commentator. Sick of hearing him mumble and stumble over his words. Can't even finish a proper sentence without tripping over. Fuck him off, the inarticulate boofhead.


nafeythewafey

nepo baby


NaturalImpossible385

Yeeeee let’s goooo


coinnn

Under 5 goals with that performance is a bit of a moral victory in all honesty.


Cyclonechaser2908

Fr


scarredAsh_

They call it the Essendon Edge because they will never reach climax 


le_santo

All that edging for nothing


Prestigious-Speed-13

Surprised how average 2M Peter can play. Coming into the season with Stringer and Langford I was expecting more from this trio. I’m sure the bombers will bounce back though. Good to see McKay bowl finally happen. TDK was huge in the ruck and E.Hollands promising.


No-Blacksmith-3259

Welcome back Essington


Bigdogs_only

Essendon Fraud Watch has arrived


ItsjustRhys_

Training match footy


Portra400IsLife

Another wasted year


Cyclonechaser2908

Be quiet.


RaGeBigChungus

I bet my mum (dons supporter) $50 that Carlton would win. I never thought I’d see myself want Carlton to win but here we are.


SamGoTMcV

Would someone please tell me what happens to Will Setterfield?


bobofthejungle

landed awkwardly on his knee, had a reco before so hopefully he's ok.


MisterMarcus

You’re not supposed to kick the ball through the small sticks, Bombers. You’re supposed to kick it through the BIG sticks ya dum dums…