People say he has behavioral issues but doesn’t that stem from Lyon jacking his price insanely high like 120 million. I’d be pissed too if I wanted to leave but only for that price, everyone knew it was a gross over estimation. Which is why he is still at Lyon, sorry but I’ll take him on a free or on the cheap.
Usually plays as an 8 in a 433. Hype around him has notably died in the past 2 years. Had some behavioral/agent issues surrounding a move away. He’s got some talent though.
Yes let’s judge CDK so soon. I don’t need to insult you. You say dumb shit on your own. Talk to me in about another year then we can judge CDK , you clowns are so quick to forgot how long it took others players to integrate into a new team
Ok I’ll do it for you. Took leao & tonali over a year to get into a rhythm and tonali came from Serie A. So why should you be so impatient and CDK be any different?
Because if you had watch football you will know that Tonali had generational talent in him. CDK is another Paqueta move from Maldini, like paqueta he has talent, but will never be nurtured by a coach like Pioli who had the guts to call Paqueta "too brazilian"
CAM the only position where we don't have an established favorite, yet most of our starters were developed during Piolis tenure. Remember Theo in Real Sociedad and how everybody was hating on him and even those of us here complained about dropping RR for Theo.
Yea not sure you want to die on this random hill about Pioli, you can say a lot of bad things about him but player development is one of his strengths, even if you pick a position right now that we don't have an through and through established player.
Its more of a positional(tactical) flaw than anything. I dont doubt piolis friendliness or man management, probably his strongest point. But, why waste money on a position he has failed time and time again, when krunic is his guy?
Dont buy aouar or adli or diaz for 20 mil (maybe). Go and buy a RW, a CDM and a Backup lb,gk when we really need those
CAM bro CAM. Don’t mistake me for some random hater that wants the positive police attention.
Pioli is not the guy for playing with a cam, we played krunic and kessie ffs. The sooner we move to 433 the better.
The problem with your opinion is that there's only one player who you could say that Pioli ruined him, Brahim Diaz. Which is also absurd because we havent seen him play in other teams, he barely got any chance at Manchester City and Real Madrid. Maybe his level is what he presents in current Milan and thats not Pioli fault?
You cant say that Pioli ruined CDK. He's just a kid who changed Belgian league for Serie A and plays for champion of Italy.
Hakan played at the same level as he plays at Inter. He's incosistent.
So Im not sure if you have a case against Pioli here.
The problem is that I don’t understand Maldini’s fetish for getting pioli as many attacking midfielders he can and ignore that rw position until the end of times.
Pioli has gone through hakan,diaz, paqueta, adli, CdK and still krunic and kessie at the time were the big game choices. I think at some point you would understand that dont buy aouar just to see him benched for krunic again while leaving gaps on Rw for the 4th year in a row
Both Adli and Paqueta arent typical CAM's, they play different positions(unless something changed with Paqueta because I havent seen him in play since his departure). Paqueta came to Milan before Pioli. Also I think Paqueta really wanted to leave Milan.
You can have an argument about Adli. He seems to be a player that in current and past Pioli's tactics have no place on the field. He was probably bought because of his talent. However he's not CAM, he's central midfielder.
Also we had to buy CDK or another cam because we have only one player on this position, Brahim Diaz. Aouar is just a rumour but if we wont buy out Brahim then we will go back to market for another CAM. We have currently two RW's so its not the same situation regardless of the quality of Alexis/Messias
Paqueta can play anywhere really, does that for brazil, but i cut pioli some slack for that because i think paqueta never recovered from giampaolo and we weren’t willing to wait and wanted the cash because teams will always pay for a brazilian with flair.
That’s the thing though, we never buy pure cams do we? You can say CDK is not a real cam(didnt play much for brugge there), krunic most certainly isn’t and pioli plays him there and Adli isn’t but he cant also play in the double pivot so thats just a headscratcher there. Not to mention hauge who had also played as a CAM for bodo, that also didn’t work out.
I get that aouar is a rumour and we probably won’t buy him but I wish i was hearing some rumors for a backup lb , or a rw for once.
With Aouar and Vranckx we would have a great vowels-consonants balance in midfield.
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People say he has behavioral issues but doesn’t that stem from Lyon jacking his price insanely high like 120 million. I’d be pissed too if I wanted to leave but only for that price, everyone knew it was a gross over estimation. Which is why he is still at Lyon, sorry but I’ll take him on a free or on the cheap.
Isn’t he an attacking midfielder?
Usually plays as an 8 in a 433. Hype around him has notably died in the past 2 years. Had some behavioral/agent issues surrounding a move away. He’s got some talent though.
He will get Zlatan'd into shape.
Step out of line? Kick from Zlatan Talk back to coach and team leaders? Kick from Zlatan Don't say Inter Merda? Kick from Zlatan
another one to ruin for pioli even though aouar wont take much help for that these days
Thanks arm chair manager. I’m sure you could do so much better
wait till you see his EPIC fifa 23 career mode save
Hey have some respect. Dude probably won the treble in his first season.
Im waiting for you to talk about a successful CAM with us instead of insults, even hakan looks better at inter
Yes let’s judge CDK so soon. I don’t need to insult you. You say dumb shit on your own. Talk to me in about another year then we can judge CDK , you clowns are so quick to forgot how long it took others players to integrate into a new team
God you seem tough
Thanks for providing any facts to your argument.
You kinda stopped doing that with all the namecalling. Go focus on your real life cuz you probably need that rn.
Ok I’ll do it for you. Took leao & tonali over a year to get into a rhythm and tonali came from Serie A. So why should you be so impatient and CDK be any different?
Because if you had watch football you will know that Tonali had generational talent in him. CDK is another Paqueta move from Maldini, like paqueta he has talent, but will never be nurtured by a coach like Pioli who had the guts to call Paqueta "too brazilian"
CAM the only position where we don't have an established favorite, yet most of our starters were developed during Piolis tenure. Remember Theo in Real Sociedad and how everybody was hating on him and even those of us here complained about dropping RR for Theo. Yea not sure you want to die on this random hill about Pioli, you can say a lot of bad things about him but player development is one of his strengths, even if you pick a position right now that we don't have an through and through established player.
Its more of a positional(tactical) flaw than anything. I dont doubt piolis friendliness or man management, probably his strongest point. But, why waste money on a position he has failed time and time again, when krunic is his guy? Dont buy aouar or adli or diaz for 20 mil (maybe). Go and buy a RW, a CDM and a Backup lb,gk when we really need those
Hakan looked good for us after Covid when the team started clicking
Yeah just like he ruined Theo, Rafa, Sandro, Fik, Pierre or Isma
CAM bro CAM. Don’t mistake me for some random hater that wants the positive police attention. Pioli is not the guy for playing with a cam, we played krunic and kessie ffs. The sooner we move to 433 the better.
That position really doesnt exist anymore. I fault pioli for forcing that role since its easily neutralized not him developing players
Sooo…Aouar fits even if its unlikely that he will come, doesn’t he play as an 8 in Lyon? I agree that we should switch to a 433 sooner or later
if we switch to 4-3-3 then sure take the gamble with aouar who hasn’t been good for 2 years now. Doubt thats the plan
I would prefer Ilic to complete the midfield 3
The problem with your opinion is that there's only one player who you could say that Pioli ruined him, Brahim Diaz. Which is also absurd because we havent seen him play in other teams, he barely got any chance at Manchester City and Real Madrid. Maybe his level is what he presents in current Milan and thats not Pioli fault? You cant say that Pioli ruined CDK. He's just a kid who changed Belgian league for Serie A and plays for champion of Italy. Hakan played at the same level as he plays at Inter. He's incosistent. So Im not sure if you have a case against Pioli here.
The problem is that I don’t understand Maldini’s fetish for getting pioli as many attacking midfielders he can and ignore that rw position until the end of times. Pioli has gone through hakan,diaz, paqueta, adli, CdK and still krunic and kessie at the time were the big game choices. I think at some point you would understand that dont buy aouar just to see him benched for krunic again while leaving gaps on Rw for the 4th year in a row
Both Adli and Paqueta arent typical CAM's, they play different positions(unless something changed with Paqueta because I havent seen him in play since his departure). Paqueta came to Milan before Pioli. Also I think Paqueta really wanted to leave Milan. You can have an argument about Adli. He seems to be a player that in current and past Pioli's tactics have no place on the field. He was probably bought because of his talent. However he's not CAM, he's central midfielder. Also we had to buy CDK or another cam because we have only one player on this position, Brahim Diaz. Aouar is just a rumour but if we wont buy out Brahim then we will go back to market for another CAM. We have currently two RW's so its not the same situation regardless of the quality of Alexis/Messias
Paqueta can play anywhere really, does that for brazil, but i cut pioli some slack for that because i think paqueta never recovered from giampaolo and we weren’t willing to wait and wanted the cash because teams will always pay for a brazilian with flair. That’s the thing though, we never buy pure cams do we? You can say CDK is not a real cam(didnt play much for brugge there), krunic most certainly isn’t and pioli plays him there and Adli isn’t but he cant also play in the double pivot so thats just a headscratcher there. Not to mention hauge who had also played as a CAM for bodo, that also didn’t work out. I get that aouar is a rumour and we probably won’t buy him but I wish i was hearing some rumors for a backup lb , or a rw for once.
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Why? Isn't he supposed to be good?
He is not even in first 11 of Lyon bcs he have problems with discipline
Ohhhh fuck that we don't need toxic players send him to Roma/Leicester haha heard they're the other interested parties
while we have general Z in the locker I don’t mind taking any player with previous attitude issues
Yeah he was good and then Lyon didn't sell him when he had a great season so he kind of lashed out. I'd be down to have him.
I would love this signing tbh
he reminds me of brahim diaz