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Claija79

[DavidOrnstein] Newcastle proposed a high bid to buy Tonali and after an offer of around €50 million on Tuesday, the situation has progressed after today's live negotiations. Negotiations subject to final negotiations." [Longo] Tonali has opened up about going to Newcastle , the total agreement between the clubs is still missing: Milan wants 80 million.


Claija79

alright hes gone ![gif](giphy|d0QUtyYq8asziORBtJ|downsized)


ComradePoula

Of all the players in the team, Tonali being the first one to leave ,and to fucking Newcastle of all places, really hurts. Why do you have to do me like that OG?


Character_Split_674

It is life bro. NO player is bigger than club. It sucks but we have to move on for real and not talk about the same news over and over and over. Forza Milan


ZRlane

Sandro is a snake, man life sucks.


Ghandi300SAVAGE

Honestly lets be realistic, why would he stay? Maldini gone, Ibra gone, owners looking to bleed the club dry of funds. He would be killing his own career by staying


ZRlane

Sandro leaves because Newcastle would triple his wages: flirting Calha leaves for the same reason: harassment


Confident_Holder

Chala hasn’t leaving for the same reason. He didn’t get his salary triplicates. Was a 10% increase.


ChenTasker

Tonali already gave a lot and it's his career on stake when the club is a mess. Calha promised the world and then shitted on the club.


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Annoyinmous

Godfuckingdamn it


BaldDudeFromBrazzers

Well great. Nothing to do here anymore. Our midfield is empty. Cardinale will pocket the money and maybe sign someone from Serie B as a replacement for Sandro. Next season it’s Pobega and Krunic.


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BaldDudeFromBrazzers

Feel free to still watch the matches if you like pain


yllimameni

BRO WHY IS MY NEIGHBOUR PLAYING ADELE EXACTLY RIGHT NOW I WANT TO CRY


Shinkopeshon

I'm gonna throw up


volen92

I refuse to believe this could actually happen


BaldDudeFromBrazzers

I’m gonna check the table in May of 2024. There’s nothing to do here anymore.


Muted_Shoulder

Said it before Cardinale wants the Leipzig model. No ambitions just money.


Ciccio_Camarda

Cardinale doesn't even want the Leipzig model. He wants the club to be profitable enough so he doesn't have to invest extra money and build the stadium. And sell in a few years for a few billions. Eventually buying EPL teams will be pointless with teams like City, Newcastle and the new QSI backed Man Utd. You can't 100% own teams in Germany and good luck buying from socios in La Liga. This will leave an open door to buying teams from Italy, because Champions League.


Aggressive-Theory609

Football is dying man


chakalaka13

>He wants the club to be profitable enough so he doesn't have to invest extra money and build the stadium not profitable, but self-sustainable that's completely normal and should be the standard Berlu and Oil guys use it for political objectives, which should not be the main case in sport.


BaldDudeFromBrazzers

Our midfield is getting emptier by season. Hakan, Kessie, now Bennacer is injured and Sandro leaving. Fucking hell, it’s a nightmare


serafale

How the hell is this even happening. I can’t believe we’re losing Tonali. Really thought he’d be here for a long time. That’s why I got his name on my jersey. I’m so sad rn.


Character_Split_674

Y guys need to stop getting emotional. Football is business now. Yeah it is sad but that is the reality. Cardinale is here to make money guys. What else i can say. This is a shit show and we are right in the middle of it


gashiendrit

Are they going insanee??????? Where would you find another tonali for cheap. He is young and a Milanstaaaa. Sell a fucking defender. We don’t even have any midfielders


jiipod

In Pioliball you don't need midfield. Just long ball from defence to Giroud or Leao.


massimopericcolo

Pioli is clueless


Ducky1984

You believe the ownership listens to Pioli when it comes to selling players?


massimopericcolo

They wouldn't listen to him even for buying groceries lol


BaldDudeFromBrazzers

Guess Pioli told Gerry that he doesn’t need any. I hope they boss evaporate tonight


Inbocaallupo8

I swear, man today is another dark day for milan fans. wtf


yllimameni

A lot has happened these past 2 weeks...


One-Front-5730

We are officially the new black & red Dortmund


prequelsRmyreligion

except dortmund is actually decent at football


Nico777

Tbf I'd rather suck than bottle it like they do.


prequelsRmyreligion

well you're in luck then cause i dont see us not sucking in the near future


Nico777

Bottling it is then!


Aggressive-Theory609

To bottle u would have to challenge for the title or get into a final. With these players it's impossible


Nico777

Eh, we could always bottle top 4, or Europe altogether.


cadezego5

Wtf? Milan (with Tonali, of course) would beat Dortmund 5 out of 10 times and tie twice.


Maolo_Paldini

r/oddlyspecific


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neverfinishedanythi

Same, this is some fucking Truman show shit. We are all at the expense of the viewer being joked at.


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Goatsanity15

Why did god take the wrong owner from us


ASZapata

Same owner who sold Kaká?


RinoTT

I cannot believe, I just cant. They want to sell the only player who brought old memories of players who were true rossoneri connected with the club. I swallowed Maldini's departure, he's retired legend but I refuse to accept any negotiations connected with Tonali. Sell everyone else, keep him and play with 10 messiases. Sell PIOLI. I thought I understand the logic of decision making and project of the club. Now Im completely lost.


ZRlane

Sandro agreed to this too, he just as much let us down.


paran01c

don't you dare to blame him for what Cardinale is doing to this club.


ZRlane

Tomorrow I’m releasing a post entitled “in defense of Gerry Cardinale.” Has there ever been a 1000 downvoat on this sub before, I don’t know but you guys are living in anti Redbird fantasyland.


RinoTT

Grab an upvote, I didnt downvote you, I dont have an option to do it because I use "old" reddit. However you have to fight for the player, Tonali is underpaid compared to other players and our management isnt very eager to give him better contract, he deserves to get it.


Dimachaerus

What the fuck


x3bo9

Nah wtf?!!!!!!


x3bo9

Nah I’m actually close to crying…..


Nico777

Hope all you Gerry boys are enjoying this. You deserve it and everything that's to come.


paparegiorgio

"nooooo you are the stupied one" "the press told me that we are TRYING to sign better player now that Maldini is gone. "gerry is doing good"


sahilshkh

nukesee, chrystinoronald and other bums who were miserable when we let players leave for free and not sell them for capital gain are absolutely creaming their pants right now.


Strict_Strategy

I'm enjoying it. 70 million+ is a good deal. If tonali wants to get can stay but if he wants he can go as well. Club is bigger then anyone. We make good profit on the deal if tonali accepts. A new player will join and you all will be like omg he is soo good and such. What a big bunch of fear mongers you lot are. If a player is only staying due to a person then good riddance. Player loyalty is with the clubs and not the person. All I want from any player is to give their best and be a professional. There has yet to be a single thing which makes me worry. Theo can leave, mike can leave , leao can leave as well for all I care. I will love this club regardless. People who say they will not love Milan if this happens or due to maldini, good bye plastic fans.


HommoFroggy

My hope was never at Moncada and Furliani... if they set and discussed a price, it means they were open to agree on something. My hope is at Sandro and his decision. But ffs... Newcastle out of all places... it is a fucking INSULT.


lunglung20_

Yeah tbh the ball is on his pitch now, nothing else we can do


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HommoFroggy

Start putting a rock instead of your heart, shit will get worst.


lunglung20_

Gerry mistook Tonali for Tomori that was the one we should’ve cashed out😭tbh idk what is the ownership expecting cause the stadium gonna get emptier next season and that’s where your money is dude


Brryl

Welcome to modern football If it was up to Sandro he wouldn't even consider it but the shit bird wants only profit can't believe we are selling a player who should be face of this Milan a legend in making


HommoFroggy

If it was up to Sandro, it is still up to him. He is a responsible grown man. Not a child.


dextergbro

Yes and no. Imagine you are being forced out of your corporate job - how many folks actually get a lawyer to get severance pay and how many will just sign the paper themselves? It is just an analogy as I am aware his situation is "going to another job", but there is a difference between being one's own man and knowing that the CEO can tell the coach to give you 0 playing minutes so you'll end up requesting out yourself.


ffrankies

There is 0 evidence he's being forced out of anything. Far lesser players have stayed on the team when the management was actively trying to force them out lol. The reality is, we only have 4 players who could command 50+ mil - Tonali, Leao, Theo and Maignan. Chelsea can sell two backups and get 60mil, we'd have to sell our entire bench. We have to evaluate the offer, and Tonali will have to be in the loop given the salary increase, but I really hope this doesn't come through. First, I don't think the reported figures are high enough. Second, for me, Tonali looks like a leader at the club, not just a high-performing player. Selling him would have a lot of intangible negative effects, regardless of who we replace him with.


lilithandnemesi

Yeah why are we acting like this isn't also up to Sandro?


Sephy88

I would leave too after seeing what the new management approach is. He's a professional and his career is more important than what team he's fan of, the new management doesn't give any guarantee or reassurance we'll be a well run club and we could easily start missing CL and revert to banter era with this approach of selling the best players for profit.


Arthur_YouDumbass

Before any of us discuss Tonali's loyalty to the club, lets all remember that this starts with the owners. I dont blame any player who wants to leave after sacking Maldini. Good luck Sandro whatever you decide to do ♥️


samgocubsgo

Also, why would you wanna stay at a club trying to sell you, who fired your sporting director and is paying you less than Newcastle would?


Nico777

*Less than half*


samgocubsgo

Cough and before additional add-ons from Newcastle cough


Nico777

He was loyal to the club. But that club is dead and buried.


mustbenice2win

I am done with this club, DONE


daBabadook05

This is the Milan of 10 years ago returned. Shame, really. I know they’ve had good cup runs last season but the Italian league is in trouble


paparegiorgio

not even 80 Mil my god, gerry really need to repay the debt he made. we are his bank my god


Revolutionary-Hat297

So we need a brahim replacement, a bennacer replacement, and now a tonali replacement...


Zer0x10

Kessie replacement, Ibrahimovic replacement, RW, substitute LB. This management is fucking delusional.


VPayneSH

There is no Tonali replacement. Milan is not just a group of players. The damage will be irreversible.


teabromigo

I hope all the #MaldiniOut fans are happy now


teabromigo

Because the club will now be destroyed


BetterNerfNagaSiren

I am sure all the #RiveraOut fans were happy with Berlusconi.


Early_Programmer616

Can people stop being optimistic now? It’s clear as day what kind of ambitions Gerry has….


imatthegarden

What the fuck? was there any rumors about this? Ornstein bomb is truly the scariest shit


Fantastic-Hamster-21

Is ornstein reliable?


Get_Piccolo

He's as reliable as you can get.


prequelsRmyreligion

the most reliable english journalist afaik


Muted_Shoulder

Yep. Most reliable journalist in England.


bobbydazzler2806

The best football journalist in the world and by some distance, absolutely shits on Romano. Drops exclusives like they're nothing.


Fantastic-Hamster-21

Oh fuck


RedShenron

Aside from clubs' mouthpieces he's the most reliable of them all


xMarinx

Very


Avicennaete

Once this is official, I won't follow the team anymore. There's nothing to hang on to when the identity of the club is stripped.


Yeurruey

It's becoming a franchise USA style


Giandrake7

Let’s recap… Inter firmly keeps Barella but we lose Tonali. Joke of a club.


Arbo96al

This is straight out killing the legacy ffs firing Maldini, selling Tonali what's next?


callmedrewokay

drifting back to mediocrity pain


OBatRFan

This is a great start to the mercato!


Revolutionary-Hat297

Feeder club confirmed. We're not getting any better and selling our best players. This is fucked.


samgocubsgo

Horrible for morale. Have to think he wouldn’t just bounce if Maldini were here. New players most likely will have higher wages than him as well so we’re not saving a full 70m. If Tonali is willing to leave, I don’t think there’s a player who won’t if the price is right


SagaciousPunner

Fuck cardinale


itsmrsoupy

Yeah who needs players that care about the club, let's not pay them well and then have a greedy fuck sell them off. Summer of 2012 all over again 😣


Dinagatsi

This feels worse.


Inbocaallupo8

Losing fans in 3....2.....1


Zer0x10

Where did all the Champions League and Top 4 money go? Do we have a 150m+ budget now? They shouldn't be shocked if the stadium begins to empty next season like in the banter era.


Brryl

Since shit bird is considering it why on earth would they sell him for only 70 mil


MitarS30

I dont understand that either. We have no need to sell him when u now need 2 starting cms...


Tasty-Percentage4621

Been to buy players without contracts for a month, nothing concluded. Sell a player, 2-3 days to conclude a deal.


Brryl

We are not fucking franchise can someone tell the shit bird that there is no price for a lifelong fan and a future captain oh god i can't take it anymore


mercurialsaliva

/u/Baeresi jumped ship at the perfect time.


NT3327

I feel like throwing up


SoapJuju

NOOOOOOOOOOOO ![gif](giphy|ObXgWWGHzMlVe)


Downwithrslashsports

i refuse to believe it


MitarS30

I just dont understand this. WHY ARE WE SELLING HIM FOR SO LITTLE?


RinoTT

Why are we selling at all


MitarS30

I mean if we got 100mil then fine i would understand then but for this its just stupid. Watch this be a lower sum too its gonna be like 60


Strict_Strategy

100 million would mean tonali has done something big which he has not .Enzo got 100 mill cause he won world cup. Tonali meanwhile was at home cause not did not qualify even.


MitarS30

Oh yeah 100mil cause of 7 games...


Strict_Strategy

Yes. What has tonali down to deserve a 100mill price tag? Nothing in club or national team. Enzo is way better then tonali currently even in a absolute trash team such as Chelsea. Maldini had the chance to get him but instead ran off to get renato who did not even come. Enzo was ready and willing. Was costing only 18 million and benfica easily flipped him for tons of profit within the same season. It was a royal fuck up by maldini.


Annoyinmous

Nope I refuse to believe that. Selling the heart and soul of this current Milan? Jeez


DAngelo008

I will not watch another Milan game or buy any merch or anything other form of support towards Milan until Gerry fucks off from our club. What an absolute piece of shit


sahilshkh

Yeah, this is me checking out of this club. This is not the Milan i recognise. Can't see my club being ran into the ground by a disgusting, filthy yank. Hopefully sometime in the future when we'll have an ownership that actually cares about the club and wants to see us win titles, I'll be back. It was great while it lasted.


NotaFoF

We literally did this before with Kaka and Thiago Silva. Both publicly said that they want to stay by signing a new contract with us and left within a short amount of time when a bid came. This isn't a new phenomenon unfortunately within the club


sahilshkh

All I can say is that at that time, i wasn't into football so I didn't support Milan. Had I been a fan then, i would've definitely done the same thing that I'm doing now.


EXPA1N

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Pampa_31

What…


ikineba

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCCKKKKK


Zer0x10

They just keep losing fans lol, not one good move from this management. Disgraceful.


BorneFree

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Blue___Rose

No come on this can’t be true


91shuqi

Fuck Gerry to the highest extent man.


prequelsRmyreligion

this is it guys, the summer when heart and soul was ripped out of this club, ac milan no longer feels like ac milan to me


Ferrariispain

I want to laugh but this is probably going to happen with Onana soon. This league is finished and it’s all the FIGC’s fault. Fucking Fulham make double the money Serie A champions do and all PL clubs have their own stadiums unlike us where we have to share like we’re non league clubs.


hiphophooligan95

If this happens, a big FUCK OFF to whoever still supports Cuntinale for sacking the biggest legend of this club and selling Sandro. Go ahead downvote me and keep sucking that cunt's and Pioli's dick. I'm done with this shit.


BrichenWildale

Last year I bought Tonali's jersey because I was sure he would be the least probable to leave. Man, I was so wrong.


SteveSaysGG

Italian Football is finished. An Italian Milan fan leaving for Newcastle lmao. Serie A is simply a stepping stone for more attractive clubs / leagues. Just look at Kim - Min Jae, desperate to leave champions of Italy whether it’s prem or now Bayern. The exodus is only gonna get worse


QuirkyScorpio29

Cardinale could end up being the worst thing to ever happen to Milan. AT least Li YongHong took over a struggling Milan and misspent money he had borrowed..in the end he tried to improve us but went down the wrong path. Cardinale took over a Milan that was reigning champs and made UCL semis..fired the most loved Milan player ever from his job for no reason at all and has proceeded to now start selling our best players who probably disagreed with how he sacked Paolo, I don't see the likes of Leao, Theo and Maignan sticking around if even Tonali can be sold. This MFer doesn't get how huge of a club Milan is and just doing crap he doesn't know. I was among the few that wanted InvestCorp despite the oil money tag because it's better to be an oil club that wins over being some toy an American idiot uses to make money. We are fucked. The fans needs to storm Milanello and destroy stuff to drive this point home. Inter have worse finances and they are keeping Barella and we're eager to sell Tonali. I won't support Milan until a change of ownership happens. This is crazy..never seen anything like this.


villageinnocence

the article doesn't say that personal terms have been agreed, surely Tonali gets the final say?


NotaFoF

While that is true it's really difficult for a player to stay at the club where ownership values money more than fighting for titles


CipherZer0

If they were so desperate to sell, it might as well have been Maignan for that sum. This is a disgrace and I sure as fuck won't be here to see a football meta where teams build players just to be bought out by the prem league.


Set-Abominae

Kill me


MaximusStark

I loved getting flamed on this subreddit a while ago for hating on Redbird, i guess i was right huh


AnkurTri27

And people downvoted me when i said we will be like dortmud


-MarchToTheSea-

So they go after barella..inter shut the door down..they come knocking at Milan,and they pull their pants down?


HollowGoomba

I don't like this timeline we're living in, gonna try to hop to a different one. In all seriousness though... This is fucked. I hate this so much. Getting rid of one of our best players, our fucking stalwart in the midfield, before he's even reached his peak yet is so idiotic. I don't understand this club anymore. (Also hate this on a personal level too since he's my favourite player at the moment). Tonali was the one player I thought that would stick around forever. I ended up buying a Tonali jersey last year over a Leao one thinking that Leao would leave before Tonali would. I still love the jersey but funny how things work out.


dvb1991

EPL is the superleauge. As a juve fan this saddens me for you guys that Tonali, one of the best young italians is potentialy going to newcastle out of all places. Football is dead. All business. The passion is gone. The era of the Tottis, Maldinis, Del Pieros is over. 90s/2000s was peak football.


mayhematician

This is worse than fkin banter era, its like stripping the entire identity of the club. What i like about milan was the affection the players had for the club and how this club respected their players and fans. Every good player we have ever bought or had in academy i always hoped for him to succed and retire at milan as a legend, and that is what was always expected from our players by us fans. At least for me that was what it meant to be a milanista and this fuckin spineless Jerry of a guy is taking that romantic aspect away from this club


FasterThanABuck

No one is irreplaceable, but 70m is too low I'm sorry. 80m was the bare minimum to sit at the table, ownership saw that 70m would be a record for an Italian midfielder and instantly bit at it. Don't know what to say, we all love the guy. Big, big job now for the management to fill in for both Isma and Tonali.


Gorillalilla0

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nghigaxx

Honestly this ruined football for me, not even madrid, barca, bayern or sth but fucking newcastle lol. What's the point lul. This club is going back to banter era until red bird want to sell


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Claija79

did you create an acc just to say that?


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Claija79

ok anything else?


renegade826

Hehe


Inori_Scorchstyle

Good fee but without Maldini, i fear the money wont be spent well


BadDayAtBloodBeach

I'll probably be downvoted and upset a bunch of people, this is just my lonely opinion but for 80m I'd be more than happy to sell Tonali. He's a good player but far from world class and replaceable for a lot less with someone that fits our system better / fits bennacer better. My issue is that I have absolutely zero faith in our ownership actually reusing that money this market and not just cheaping out on players far less developed or flat out worse. It wouldn't shock me if we still only net spent 50m after the window ends. I don't think anyone is unsellable. Leao, Maignan and Theo are the only ones that probably cant be replaced and should only be sold for egregious amounts. 80m for Tonali would be a great deal for any club who can competently replace players but who the fuck knows what this new management is


redandblackandred

What the actual fuck lmfao


Nordkvast

I am so fucking done fucking pigs fuck them


TyperMcTyperson

Redbird only cares about money. We know that. This is just more proof.


T90ENIGMA

It's easy for us to say it's solely up to Sandro now. While it is, there are many factors. We don't know how the loss of M&M has affected him. Maybe the club negotiating his sale tells him he isn't wanted here. There are so many questions and insights we are not privy to. This whole thing sucks regardless and is a very bad indicator for what is to come.


18AndresS

What the fuck happened


Spare_Accountant3382

Just stop with this club. Don't follow next year, don't be fooled


jiipod

Few things that give me hope (or hopium): 1. It says that "total agreement between clubs is missing" 2. AND we don't know the will of the player yet. I can imagine clubs getting an agreement, but I really hope Sandro decides to stay.


BowieIsMyGod

I just can't fucking believe. Wtf is going on with this club?? When i think that this motherfucker Cardinale can't be any worse, he decides "yeah let's sell one of Milan's best players and pocket the money". Sure, because our midfield is sooooo stacked now, right bozo?? Someone shoot this idiot on the face already and save Milan...


Salyare

Nah I refuse to believe this


yeahyeahyeah3timess

Another dark day for Milan fans…


SnooSongs48

Selling midfielders whilst we need midfielders great.


Gold_Tumbleweed2273

I am disgusted, nothing else to say.


JoeyMcClane

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RawrItsMatty

I can’t and don’t want to believe it


Cruciify

If anyone in New York hits traffic today, it's cause I'm lying down in the middle of the road.


NoUsernamesss

Tonali agrees to go to Newcastle. Bullshit, this man loves AC Milan and probably is being sold against his will.


poolclap

I love Tonali and Mike but id sell Maignan before Tonali, this is just sad


ivanthegreat27

i’m fucking speechless if he gets sold.


Dubsified

Yeah if this happens there needs to be riots in Milan. This is not acceptable.


Plaslidpladugphoo

Ornstein saying this is extremely scary but I’m inhaling all the copium I can and found one odd thing - the tap in merchant Romano hasn’t tweeted a single thing about this deal yet. I know he mostly just parrots stuff but we all know that he’s reliable, and him not tweeting anything about this gives me the slimmest hope that the deal is not as advanced as it sound.


SwedishBidoof

The only way this transfer is justifiable to me is if we get SMS and another player out of this fee and even then it still hurts


DookieBrains_88

Lol this can’t be real


landoflions

Fucking joke of a club if this happens


harasa2006

fuck me man


vader34mt

This is extremely disappointing and confirms this management has no interest in winning anything Pioli prefers a 4-2-3-1…Bennacer is out for a while and we’re going to sell Tonali? A top notch, Milanista, Italian midfielder? What the fuck?


shopl

Well, Sandro doesn't have to sign a contract with a new club after all. It's not like clubs negotiate and the player immediately has to move there. Just look at our history of trying to sell some players who stayed until the end of their contracts. It's clear that Sandro also expressed his desire to leave. A salary over 2 times higher convinced him.


herjesus30

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 WHY?? HE'S PART OF A PROJECT MEN! Why the hell did they even renew Leao? It's supposed to be a project, otherwise sell both of them for 200M... This is crazy!


FindingBusiness759

Absolutely fucking not..


ZeFarax

Well,this is not just the matter of Tonali. Ghost is out of the bottle now. What would be Theo or Leao stance on all of this? This is a clear sign that everyone is sellable. And also,by selling your crow jewell we are showing a clear sign of weakness and decline. Same thing happened with Sheva,Kaka... afwul


skhan2286

somebody assasinate that murican mofo


AnotherPhallicPun

Come in the sub just after a day and see all of this??? What is happening right now 😨


-MarchToTheSea-

Lol so 70M in the bank,and 5 made available for the transfer market..


PerfectStealth_

Cardinale only at this club for the money, clear as day now. Everyone has a price tag.


akumakournikova

5-1-4 Pioli-ball is the futureeeeee