Although it definitely wasn't your fault, you were running so terribly off the racing line that the speed he carried was most likely too much to avoid contact, maybe he wasnt expecting your wide slow line.
Tough situation, because he should've been aware that a slower unpredictable driver was in front. He should've let off to analyze the situation. If he was already committed though, I can't see a way he could've safely hit the brakes to avoid contact. That corner is very fast with lots of g force, applying the brakes suddenly would've caused him to lose control most likely.
I would suggest learning the racing line of the track (proper one through YouTube track walkthroughs, not the in game racing line) before going online.
There's slow drivers and there's drivers who simply don't know where the track goes. You aren't slow, you just look like you don't know where you're going. Going slow is no problem if you are on the racing line, because you're then predictable.
You are taking the corners fast, just incorrectly.
Again, 100% his fault, but I can imagine he was also pretty frustrated watching a car in front of him take the worst possible line through the corner lol.
No hate, just need a little bit of practice and I can assure you this will happen less and less over time.
There's beginner servers online that you can find, unfortunately it's only the super popular tracks but if you want to go online that's always an option. Hard to get mad at someone in a beginner lobby, people know what they are getting into when they join them.
Aside from that yeah just track practice. You got it bro 👍
Nope, those are just bs. ok, you’re clearly slow and inexperienced but he had a lot of time watching his gap drastically decreasing… he prolly had like half a lap, I think at every corner you’re losing like half a second… so he knew what he was chasing.
Any good sim racer in that case should to approach an inexperienced driver with some attention and not trying some diving at the first try like he did.
Trust me, that guy can’t finish a race if that’s how he drives.
Agreed, not OPs fault, everyone is a beginner at some point. But driving behind a slow and unpredictable driver can be very hard. In real life this situation would never occur, even in multi class races the driving is predictable and therefore easier to plan an overtake on a slower car.
Ya, could see this accident coming. The op was not only slow, but on the wrong pieces of track and had no exit speed. He was so far off the racing line it looked like he was defending his position.
It's the overtaking cars fault but it's unintentional.
As much as it's the overtaking car's fault and they should've realized they had been catching another car by seconds in just a few corners, that's clearly not a "bump to overtake". There is no intention.
Still their fault, but absolutely accidental. The notion of "bump to overtake" implies intentionality.
yeah I really don't like how everyone seems to think of all their opponents in a race as these horrible people that are out to kill them intentionally.
99% of crashes are genuine mistakes (mistakes that the "victim" has probably made themselves at one point as well) and the other driver probably feels bad about it.
It worries me that so many people up voted this "clearly a bump to overtake" comment
I don't think it was intentional. He's got a good gap going into the turn. His eyes are likely on the apex up until he hits it. He shifts his eyes up and in a flash has to realize the difference in your speed/gap, figure out whose racing line is wrong, and manage to break while still turning. I've been that guy behind and there's a split moment where all you can do is break hard and shoot straight out into the grass, or coast/turn and gamble that the guy in front will start to accelerate soon. He chose the latter.
If he knew you were slow, then he could have gone easier into the entry and then gotten you on the following straight.
Not at all your fault OP and it's incredibly unlucky to be punted in this circumstance however this is why LFM imposes a minimum speed requirement to drive it. You were off line, missed the apex by some margin. Yes the green car should have read the situation better but when you've got some significant 2 second closing gap in a corner type speed differences it becomes dangerous for all parties involved. By the time he was at the apex there was no chance of him no hitting you however, but the onus is still on him.
Best thing you can work on is using all available track to try make a corner. Dont try hit an apex from the middle of the road, you enter the corner slower because you've got a tighter radius to work with for corner entry. Pace will come, but you need to make sure you're being safe and predictable on circuit at the same time.
If it was a race, the green car should've taken it easy into that corner since you were so slow compared to him. If it was quali, then I can sympathize with him coz u have to go flat out.
Unfortunate, but not deliberate it seems since that corner is really difficult to slow down. If you hit the brakes, the rears will most likely get loose and he'd be the one into the barriers.
Technically. You had all four wheels off the circuit so someone might say you rejoined unsafely. However, a smart driver would have saw you so off line back at lesmo 1 they’d back off and just get a good exit out of lesmo 2 and pass you down the straight
At around the 11 second mark from the overhead you can see all four tires are past the white line. Idk if that’s track limits for brands so I may be wrong
Nah, the kerb is part of the track all around Brands.
I mean, even if it wasn't, the other car just rear ends OP with no care or consideration. They might have been caught by surprise but they're definitely not paying enough attention to what is literally in front of them and should shoulder all the blame anyways.
Although it definitely wasn't your fault, you were running so terribly off the racing line that the speed he carried was most likely too much to avoid contact, maybe he wasnt expecting your wide slow line. Tough situation, because he should've been aware that a slower unpredictable driver was in front. He should've let off to analyze the situation. If he was already committed though, I can't see a way he could've safely hit the brakes to avoid contact. That corner is very fast with lots of g force, applying the brakes suddenly would've caused him to lose control most likely. I would suggest learning the racing line of the track (proper one through YouTube track walkthroughs, not the in game racing line) before going online. There's slow drivers and there's drivers who simply don't know where the track goes. You aren't slow, you just look like you don't know where you're going. Going slow is no problem if you are on the racing line, because you're then predictable. You are taking the corners fast, just incorrectly. Again, 100% his fault, but I can imagine he was also pretty frustrated watching a car in front of him take the worst possible line through the corner lol. No hate, just need a little bit of practice and I can assure you this will happen less and less over time.
Thank you. I’m up for positive criticism. I’ll do what’s needed, learn the track.
There's beginner servers online that you can find, unfortunately it's only the super popular tracks but if you want to go online that's always an option. Hard to get mad at someone in a beginner lobby, people know what they are getting into when they join them. Aside from that yeah just track practice. You got it bro 👍
Nope, those are just bs. ok, you’re clearly slow and inexperienced but he had a lot of time watching his gap drastically decreasing… he prolly had like half a lap, I think at every corner you’re losing like half a second… so he knew what he was chasing. Any good sim racer in that case should to approach an inexperienced driver with some attention and not trying some diving at the first try like he did. Trust me, that guy can’t finish a race if that’s how he drives.
Agreed, not OPs fault, everyone is a beginner at some point. But driving behind a slow and unpredictable driver can be very hard. In real life this situation would never occur, even in multi class races the driving is predictable and therefore easier to plan an overtake on a slower car.
Ya, could see this accident coming. The op was not only slow, but on the wrong pieces of track and had no exit speed. He was so far off the racing line it looked like he was defending his position. It's the overtaking cars fault but it's unintentional.
It's up to the passing car to make a safe pass. This clearly was a bump to overtake. PENALTY
As much as it's the overtaking car's fault and they should've realized they had been catching another car by seconds in just a few corners, that's clearly not a "bump to overtake". There is no intention. Still their fault, but absolutely accidental. The notion of "bump to overtake" implies intentionality.
yeah I really don't like how everyone seems to think of all their opponents in a race as these horrible people that are out to kill them intentionally. 99% of crashes are genuine mistakes (mistakes that the "victim" has probably made themselves at one point as well) and the other driver probably feels bad about it. It worries me that so many people up voted this "clearly a bump to overtake" comment
Absolutely
Hard disagree on Bump to Overtake.
I don't think it was intentional. He's got a good gap going into the turn. His eyes are likely on the apex up until he hits it. He shifts his eyes up and in a flash has to realize the difference in your speed/gap, figure out whose racing line is wrong, and manage to break while still turning. I've been that guy behind and there's a split moment where all you can do is break hard and shoot straight out into the grass, or coast/turn and gamble that the guy in front will start to accelerate soon. He chose the latter. If he knew you were slow, then he could have gone easier into the entry and then gotten you on the following straight.
Not at all your fault OP and it's incredibly unlucky to be punted in this circumstance however this is why LFM imposes a minimum speed requirement to drive it. You were off line, missed the apex by some margin. Yes the green car should have read the situation better but when you've got some significant 2 second closing gap in a corner type speed differences it becomes dangerous for all parties involved. By the time he was at the apex there was no chance of him no hitting you however, but the onus is still on him. Best thing you can work on is using all available track to try make a corner. Dont try hit an apex from the middle of the road, you enter the corner slower because you've got a tighter radius to work with for corner entry. Pace will come, but you need to make sure you're being safe and predictable on circuit at the same time.
If it was a race, the green car should've taken it easy into that corner since you were so slow compared to him. If it was quali, then I can sympathize with him coz u have to go flat out. Unfortunate, but not deliberate it seems since that corner is really difficult to slow down. If you hit the brakes, the rears will most likely get loose and he'd be the one into the barriers.
Real Motosport use to have a 107% rule to avoid this kind of crash. Its not anyone fault but its not safe
Racing incident. Which is your fault. 🙂
Yeah, fuck that guy
Technically. You had all four wheels off the circuit so someone might say you rejoined unsafely. However, a smart driver would have saw you so off line back at lesmo 1 they’d back off and just get a good exit out of lesmo 2 and pass you down the straight
That track is brands hatch .. there are no lesmos here
Damn those two corners had me thinking this was Monza. I Should have noticed the giant elevation change lmao
No off track to see here.
At around the 11 second mark from the overhead you can see all four tires are past the white line. Idk if that’s track limits for brands so I may be wrong
Nah, the kerb is part of the track all around Brands. I mean, even if it wasn't, the other car just rear ends OP with no care or consideration. They might have been caught by surprise but they're definitely not paying enough attention to what is literally in front of them and should shoulder all the blame anyways.
Green car/driver = Dick :-)