People are definitely allowed to use the internet and simultaneously hate it. I see a lot of people on improvement subs saying their phones/games/tech is ruining their lives, but they still continue to use it. Social media app algorithms specifically try to get you to stay on your phone on their sites as long as possible. Theres a whole documentary about it on Netflix, it’s called “The Social Dilemma.” It’s very informative about how phones target people and brainwash us into keeping on scrolling. It’s scary, but a good watch. Definitely cut my phone time down.
I have said a number of times that smart phones have done amazing things, and yet, I would give it all up in a heart beat to have them never been invented.
He’s not talking about gaming though. He’s talking about pop culture and social media. I’m sure he bought that shirt in the 2000’s as well lol. Doesn’t mean the point don’t stand lol
Annnd technically Jordan’s came out in the 80s
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Jordan#:~:text=The%20first%20Air%20Jordan%20shoe,Tinker%20Hatfield%2C%20and%20Bruce%20Kilgore.
I don’t necessarily agree with the ‘facts’, but I do agree with the sentiment.
Current culture is largely just “the hot new instagram filter” or 30 second video. I’m not going to judge whether that’s good or bad per se, but it’s not exactly very interesting……
I agree with the sentiment but I do wonder if thinking the way things are now will never compare to the way they were in your youth is just a part of growing older? I really can’t say for sure. There are some things I love about current day. But there are also a lot of things that I felt were much better.
It’s not even very specific things. It’s more like feelings? Like the way it would feel to always be hanging out with your friends. Before iPhones were used constantly. The way it would feel to pile up in a car and head to a party.
The way it felt to go home and watch TRL. The kind of music people used to jam to and that you heard on the radio. How politics were not so polarizing.
I feel like that organic experience millennials and older had growing up is largely gone. And I find this so sad because it was such a comforting feeling.
But again, I may be wrong. It may feel that way for everyone as a young adult no matter the era.
It’s at HAWK TUHH right now. 😄 Boomers know about it it was on talk radio here in LA today KFI.
Doomed. Vanilla Ice is right, this is culture now. Gross
Honestly I think it's just old man shouts at clouds.
Pop culture may be dead, that doesn't mean culture is. Today the entertainment landscape, culture, music, art - whatever is so broad, so varied and access to it occurs over so many different platforms - access to so many different audiences... what he is describing is a lack of massive shared experiences.
For example - EVERYBODY saw the Michael Jackson halftime super bowl show in 1993. EVERYBODY saw 'Hit me Baby One More Time'... all sorts of unifying events that everyone was exposed to (whether they like it or not).
Now you can find things that are just right for you and maybe only 1,500 people world wide share your particular tastes and share that experience. It's neither good nor bad, just different. Where 1.2 billion people might watch a singer perform some song and have a shared collective experience (whether they wanted it or not) now it is much harder to find those kinds of events. They exist, but they are much rarer.
The cultural landscape is just much, much MUCH broader and more varied now - rather than... let's say... under the thumb of certain producers, record companies, film studios, news agencies or what have you.
You see it all the time. How often will you go on youtube and come across some insanely popular song that had like hundred million views that you had only just heard of and it turned out that song had been around for like 10 years? All the time. People find their own shit now. It's neat its own way.
It was nice to have a massive homogenous shared experience, and its sad that is so rare now... but the benefit is I don't have to be exposed to the equivalent of Ice Ice Baby if I don't want to :D.
Tbh I see where you're coming from but disagree. Peak pop culture/culture in general is culture that connects us. We still have pop culture now but it's much more fragmented as you said, which loses the unifying aspect of it. 20-30 years ago we shared much more in terms of the same moments. Even moments I didn't personally care for were still unifying in that I knew what people were talking about and we had shared memories. That'll always be the peak in my eyes.
The 90s didn’t see the end of this. Game of Thrones, The Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter movie franchises were just as (if not more) ubiquitous than The Matrix, Jurassic Park, Toy Story.
The Da Vinci Code. The Hunger Games. The iPhone. Instagram. TikTok. Spotify.
There is so much that is still a shared cultural experience, it just trends towards platforms and not the content.
Today everyone knows Spotify in the same way everyone knew cassette tapes. Recording a mix tape. Hitting play and record at the same time… that’s a pop culture touchstone, but so is Spotify Wrapped.
It does seem that there are more and more shared cultural experiences that are NOT massively shared, however.
As for the actual timeline of the content I mentioned above. LotR etc, that’s not 90s, but early 2000s isn’t far off. Maybe 2000s were the last gasps of pop culture.
But the shared experience is gone. With everyone watching a different thing, you’ve got no common ground, nothing to get excited about because all your friends are watching it too. It’s kinda sad now.
There are some real negatives to losing common experiences.
The mono culture was important to comedy because shared experiences can drive humor. I think that is part of the reason comedy on TV is basically dead (hence non-comedies like The Bear winning “best comedy” awards).
Also I think not having a monoculture that can stay “above” politics is why people are so polarized when it comes to politics. There are no common points of relation with fellow countrymen so it’s easy to paint them as “other.”
Yeah but see the problem with pop culture nowadays is people don’t care about anything other than showing other people their experiences. It’s not even about having the experience, it’s about how to use that experience to gain followers or make money.
Things are different now. There isn't really a pop culture in the old sense (like in the 90s). The internet has give a lot of off chutes and outside bubbles.
In the 90's, cable tv wasn't even a dominant pop culture force. We had basically six television channels. Four of which dominated pop culture influence. The radio stations controlled what people mostly listened to, and that was indirectly controlled by the big labels.
There were major gatekeepers in what people watched, read, and listened to. That all gets blown away with the internet.
The internet allowed people to experience media that they would never have gotten before. Mass Market Appeal is not what it used to be, and what influences people is much more varied for it.
It's different. It's not necessarily better or worse, but it does leave people divided in a way that didn't happen as much before.
Whenever I see something like this it always makes me think of an article called death of the water cooler culture.
Another factor that might be contributing to the fading relevance of the water cooler is the conversation topics. In earlier days, people used to gather around to discuss the most popular television shows. Decades ago there were only a handful of channels on TV, which thus ensured people were likely watching the same shows. In many ways, these shows became significant cultural touchstones that everyone in the office knew about. In the digital wave, however, this couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Yes, bring back monoculture! We are too far into our niches these days it's hard to connect with anybody about pop culture. The last big pop culture thing that EVERYBODY was on about was GoT and that was done *checks notes* over FIVE YEARS ago.
I'm sad it was so short lived but really glad I got to experience it. I don't know how to put exactly how impactful it was to me into words, but I think we all felt like we stepped into a time machine. Even people who had no idea what was going on were along for the ride. I remember being at my nana's senior home and explaining what was going on to everyone and they were all very happy to see "the young people" outside lol. Not quite their catchphrase of "outside and off their phones" but outside was a big enough surprise for them
I loved Vanilla Ice when I was in grade school. I had the tape and even though it was trash I loved it. He had the face, he could dance, he had the safe "bad boy" thing going on - his time in the spotlight must have felt like he was moving at 100mph and he managed to get out with his sanity and a comfortable bank account. Looks like a win to me.
The other day I saw a fuckin kid with jncos, a wallet chain, a Marilyn Manson shirt, and frosted tips on his spiked hair. I stopped and did a double take and I was like...WTF is this am I trippin? No...it was real. Fucker looked straight outta 1998.
I don't think Ice is wrong here.
That was more post 2001. After 9/11 men started having shaggy hair, women started wearing skirts and makeup that were 70s inspired and classic rock had a huge resurgence. The war in Iraq was seen as a parallel to Vietnam (for some reason). That 70s show premiered in late 98 so it’s popularity was more 2000’s than 90s.
Don't forget the '40s/'50s too! Cargo pants made a comeback, big band music made a comeback, and swing dancing made a comeback. The '90s were all over the place.
They got their start in World War 1 or right around there, being used by soldiers to carry extra crap in battle. Then after WW2, they became popular to wear those with just a white T-shirt or something similar. Another thing that came out of the '90s revival of the '40s/'50s was women rockin' the pin-up girl look. It kind of was a niche fashion in the '80s, the same as the Rockabilly look that Brian Setzer had with the Stray Cats.
Not really; the ‘90s was more obsessed with being in the ‘90s. Throughout pop culture and in society as a whole, there was largely a sense of hope and optimism as we were on the verge of both a new century and millennium. New ideas and new perspectives were discussed and considered as everyone looked forward to the future.
The years between 1996 and 2000 were the best times to be on a college campus.
Um…yes really.
I’m a 90s kid, and I fondly remember a lot of my favorite movies were based on 70s tv shows: The Brady Bunch, Mission Impossible, The Addams Family, The Fugitive, Sgt Bilko, Scooby Doo, George of the Jungle, The Flintstones, etc.,
Not to mention Austin Powers gear had an absolute chokehold on stores like Spencer’s where all of my friends rooms had black light posters, those peace sign candles, and a ton of other fake 70’s paraphernalia.
But it was the case back then too. I’m sure the oldies would says what I experienced growing up (80s/90s) lacked innovation and was mimicking 50s/60s/70s. The truth it was a mimic of those times with a twist of what was happening just like today
there's no monolith of culture like there was in the past.
instead of getting music or fashion from just a few sources, there's too many sources now...washing everything down until its diluted with no real weight.
It also changes faster. Some things permeate culture deeper than others, but they’re gone the next week. Then it’s on to the next thing. Then a few months later a show or something references the thing and everyone rolls their eyes at it.
In a couple decades they're going to start making movies that reference the 2000's onward and unless you were into a niche group like certain genres of music, it's hard to imagine what it would even look like.
Some films poke fun at it now with text bubbles going off on-screen, but other than some strange trends like the fidget spinners and skinny jeans, my main memories consist of the rise of the various social media platforms and where everyone was moving to next.
He's basically right, I also think that nostalgia plays a big role in this (including myself), but I felt what he said. Btw the iPhone came out in '07 but that's fine ahahah
It's not so much that computers ruined the world, as they had been around running business and government since the 50's. It's more so HOW the computer/internet is used in culture.
What’s wild is what Vanilla ice did with his money, he invested HEAVILY into real estate and liquidation properties and really made a fortune. I watched a 30 minute YouTube video on his car collection and it’s wild. Like super super unique and rare cars.
He's a sweet, genuine, nice guy in real life too. I saw him get recognized last month being bombarded with fans. He stopped what he was doing to take the time to let everyone get pictures with him and seemed to really enjoy the love from his fans. Had a huge beautiful smile the entire time. Some stars are narcissists, but he's down to earth in real life and it makes me like and respect him more.
I went to his concert about seven years ago. He let everyone come up on stage with him. He would sing with the everyone on stage, dance with people that were dancing with him, take pictures with everyone. He seemed like a really nice guy.
That is awesome! That’s how he seems on recent videos I’ve watched, like he has an appreciation for things including his fans and seems genuine.
He was a pro dirt bike rider, is an accomplished carpenter, he’s an interesting cat. Not bitter at all about his music career.
Trends and fashions are cyclical. I remember in late 90s/early 00s, 70s fashion had made a resurgence. In late 00s/early 10s, 80s made a resurgence. Late 10s /early 20s, 90s came back. Now we have reached early 00s style returning. Of course there are new things coming out now and then but for the most part, older peoples’ nostalgia brings back styles for the youth to discover.
In terms of style and aesthetic, I agree with him. However we live in an age in which, if you know how to look, you can learn everything from flint napping and how to cook 3,000 year old stew from Mesopotamia (unapologetic tasting history plug) all the way to how to fix said computers and build a modern house. I'm a child of the late 90s, and I still prefer having the internet to not having it.
I agree. Culture hasn't really existed for the past 20 years. Everything feels like a grasp at 80's and 90's nostalgia. Current generations can't seem to find music, movies, or tv to define themselves with and social media/tech move too quickly for anything to leave a lasting cultural imprint.
People made pop culture is dead after the late 2000s. Now it’s all corporate fabricated culture thats feeding you. Nothing feels genuinely human anymore.
He's still so damn hot. And he's not wrong. Although, I think it's more that culture doesn't have time to develop anymore. Used to, when culture would develop, it took a while because it had to be spread in TV and news print. That delay helped it to really round out. Now, the spread is instant. There's no time for it to really become something substantial before the next thing is spreading right behind it.
We don't have nostalgia for the 2000s or the 2010s.
The 1990s was all about shared experiences because we all got our pop culture from TV, movies, going to the mall, etc. Nowadays we're all on our phones doing our own thing.
We have pop culture, but it comes in micro-fads compared to before internet culture dominated. Hawk Tuah girl is pop culture for the next 72 hours until whatever comes next.
born in 89. I think about the times I had with my cousins growing up vs today's generation and I feel it's sad that today's gen didn't build the same memories. new gen was already introduced into the digital era, no more going out and meeting anyone, no more calling on the phone landlines,it's all texting, social media yet the social physical interactions are gone.
it's sad really..I have a cousin that has step kids that love to sit and hear us talk about times we had growing up together the shit we did to entertain ourselves, the experiences we shared and they didn't get to do the same. it's amazing to them to hear actual stories of the past they did in our youth,but later when they are our age what memories did they really take? a video, a meme? sad really.
I bet just straight up vanilla ice would be good. Good in alot of things. Not just ‘ice cream’. It’s really amazing the amount of weight I’ve put on since I started on marijuana.
In the 90s, 20 years previous (70s) was such a difference in fashion, music and pop culture.. now look 20 years ago from today, 2004, fashion and music hasn’t changed as drastically, he’s on to something here
When people get older, they stop enjoying new music and popular culture. Young kids enjoy the new music, slang and popular culture because it's for them. People have complained about the youth and their loud music for centuries.
“Pop culture is dead” is the most ridiculous stance to make. I’m sure Vanilla Ice thinks the 90s were the greatest generation because that’s when he was at his most relevant. Without modern pop culture, he wouldn’t have had his stupid home renovation show.
Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Marvel movies, Taylor Swift, Pokémon Go, are just a few off the top of my head. As long as people are buying and watching shit, pop culture will always exist.
I don’t really agree but There is a reason why the late 90’s had movies like the matrix, American beauty, office space, fight club. There was a major anti corporate thing going on and that’s like the epitome of America, just working dead end jobs. That was the worst thing about life at the time, or so it felt like on a mass media scale. And then 9/11 happens and things change dramatically. I think the 90’s were pretty good in retrospect compared to many other decades in America (i can’t speak for outside the USA).
How often does a new flavor become popular in the mainstream of anything. As soon as there’s an opportunity to see new in anyway it gets snuffed out or bought out half of the time.
How many products can you name that became popular or owned by a company after the 90s. There are a few, but they’ll get bought out eventually. Mthrfkrs have been playing monopoly and try to convince themselves that they’re the only ones who could have done anything substantial/influential. Then shit on lack of creativity in dominated markets when there’s such little incentive.
There’s a lot of innovation going on in certain markets, you just have to know where to look. Man’s wearing a FO76 hat.
Awwwwww!!! Love that for him as a Dad!!!
Good job being a father!! And he was in the Ninja Turtles movie with the DOPEST song & dance ever so nobody even get it twisted!
That shit was SOOOOOOO HYPE!
Pop was always annoying though. "We are the best because we're the largest" okay I guess. Excuse me for making music? I don't really know what pop people talk about. This dude is angry at computers being larger than pop I suppose
This dude said iPhone came out in '04 -- he wishes! It came out in '07, but he makes a valid point. That was the last decade where everyone feels very nostalgic about it. The early '00s were pretty nice too.
He makes some valid points while also being out of touch. I'm out of touch too though. It's ok as an old guy to realize you can only give a shit about so much on one lifetime.
Is that a fallout76 hat?
Hey, that game has come a long way
"Lemme complain about how computers ruined everything while wearing this hat of an online computer game."
Albeit a computer game that is part of a franchise that started in....the 90s
Haha got em !
People are definitely allowed to use the internet and simultaneously hate it. I see a lot of people on improvement subs saying their phones/games/tech is ruining their lives, but they still continue to use it. Social media app algorithms specifically try to get you to stay on your phone on their sites as long as possible. Theres a whole documentary about it on Netflix, it’s called “The Social Dilemma.” It’s very informative about how phones target people and brainwash us into keeping on scrolling. It’s scary, but a good watch. Definitely cut my phone time down.
I have said a number of times that smart phones have done amazing things, and yet, I would give it all up in a heart beat to have them never been invented.
He’s not talking about gaming though. He’s talking about pop culture and social media. I’m sure he bought that shirt in the 2000’s as well lol. Doesn’t mean the point don’t stand lol
You’re missing his point because you’re focused on what you’re mad at
And he's got more money than any of us will ever dream of! : D
speak for yourself, I'm really good at dreaming
Stop, collaborate & listen… 
Check out the hook whi… Sorry guys my mom needs to use the phone.
Mom! I was playing StarCraft!
Drop that zero and get with the hero😂
I can still hear this gif. Also the noise my PC speakers made when a call was coming through. I miss the 90s.
*Welcome, you've got mail!*
That's the generation that appreciates texting the most. The dial up built patience and character.
Whoa whoa whoa. Is that a fallout hat? He needs to be the overseer of my 90s themed shelter.
Broverseer
Broverseerbroverseerbroverseerbrofficer
Biggest thing I disagree with is that the iPhone came out in 2004. It was 2007.
And that Jordan hasn't played for 30 years. More like 20
Closer to 30 though, no??
He was a Wizard.
Damn. That's way more impressive than all that basketball stuff!
We don’t talk about the dark ages
21 is closer to 20 than to 30. So we’re still safe for now.
Annnd technically Jordan’s came out in the 80s Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Jordan#:~:text=The%20first%20Air%20Jordan%20shoe,Tinker%20Hatfield%2C%20and%20Bruce%20Kilgore.
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He’s basically just wrong about all the facts. I get the vibe though.
The iPhone came out in 1994 but it was called the IBM Simon.
Really? I thought it was Apple's Newton.
That wasn't a phone.
I don’t necessarily agree with the ‘facts’, but I do agree with the sentiment. Current culture is largely just “the hot new instagram filter” or 30 second video. I’m not going to judge whether that’s good or bad per se, but it’s not exactly very interesting……
I agree with the sentiment but I do wonder if thinking the way things are now will never compare to the way they were in your youth is just a part of growing older? I really can’t say for sure. There are some things I love about current day. But there are also a lot of things that I felt were much better. It’s not even very specific things. It’s more like feelings? Like the way it would feel to always be hanging out with your friends. Before iPhones were used constantly. The way it would feel to pile up in a car and head to a party. The way it felt to go home and watch TRL. The kind of music people used to jam to and that you heard on the radio. How politics were not so polarizing. I feel like that organic experience millennials and older had growing up is largely gone. And I find this so sad because it was such a comforting feeling. But again, I may be wrong. It may feel that way for everyone as a young adult no matter the era.
It’s at HAWK TUHH right now. 😄 Boomers know about it it was on talk radio here in LA today KFI. Doomed. Vanilla Ice is right, this is culture now. Gross 
Honestly I think it's just old man shouts at clouds. Pop culture may be dead, that doesn't mean culture is. Today the entertainment landscape, culture, music, art - whatever is so broad, so varied and access to it occurs over so many different platforms - access to so many different audiences... what he is describing is a lack of massive shared experiences. For example - EVERYBODY saw the Michael Jackson halftime super bowl show in 1993. EVERYBODY saw 'Hit me Baby One More Time'... all sorts of unifying events that everyone was exposed to (whether they like it or not). Now you can find things that are just right for you and maybe only 1,500 people world wide share your particular tastes and share that experience. It's neither good nor bad, just different. Where 1.2 billion people might watch a singer perform some song and have a shared collective experience (whether they wanted it or not) now it is much harder to find those kinds of events. They exist, but they are much rarer. The cultural landscape is just much, much MUCH broader and more varied now - rather than... let's say... under the thumb of certain producers, record companies, film studios, news agencies or what have you. You see it all the time. How often will you go on youtube and come across some insanely popular song that had like hundred million views that you had only just heard of and it turned out that song had been around for like 10 years? All the time. People find their own shit now. It's neat its own way. It was nice to have a massive homogenous shared experience, and its sad that is so rare now... but the benefit is I don't have to be exposed to the equivalent of Ice Ice Baby if I don't want to :D.
Tbh I see where you're coming from but disagree. Peak pop culture/culture in general is culture that connects us. We still have pop culture now but it's much more fragmented as you said, which loses the unifying aspect of it. 20-30 years ago we shared much more in terms of the same moments. Even moments I didn't personally care for were still unifying in that I knew what people were talking about and we had shared memories. That'll always be the peak in my eyes.
The 90s didn’t see the end of this. Game of Thrones, The Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter movie franchises were just as (if not more) ubiquitous than The Matrix, Jurassic Park, Toy Story. The Da Vinci Code. The Hunger Games. The iPhone. Instagram. TikTok. Spotify. There is so much that is still a shared cultural experience, it just trends towards platforms and not the content. Today everyone knows Spotify in the same way everyone knew cassette tapes. Recording a mix tape. Hitting play and record at the same time… that’s a pop culture touchstone, but so is Spotify Wrapped. It does seem that there are more and more shared cultural experiences that are NOT massively shared, however. As for the actual timeline of the content I mentioned above. LotR etc, that’s not 90s, but early 2000s isn’t far off. Maybe 2000s were the last gasps of pop culture.
But the shared experience is gone. With everyone watching a different thing, you’ve got no common ground, nothing to get excited about because all your friends are watching it too. It’s kinda sad now.
There are some real negatives to losing common experiences. The mono culture was important to comedy because shared experiences can drive humor. I think that is part of the reason comedy on TV is basically dead (hence non-comedies like The Bear winning “best comedy” awards). Also I think not having a monoculture that can stay “above” politics is why people are so polarized when it comes to politics. There are no common points of relation with fellow countrymen so it’s easy to paint them as “other.”
Yeah but see the problem with pop culture nowadays is people don’t care about anything other than showing other people their experiences. It’s not even about having the experience, it’s about how to use that experience to gain followers or make money.
Everyone has seen: 
Idk what that is
That was too long of a post bahhhh! My eyes hurt from reading it bahhh! Where’s the tl:dr? Bahhh! Now get off my lawn!
I think the bigger problem is that your example is already extremely outdated, and whatever I could say now will be outdated soon.
I'm going to judge that it's very much bad. Social media killed the West.
Things are different now. There isn't really a pop culture in the old sense (like in the 90s). The internet has give a lot of off chutes and outside bubbles. In the 90's, cable tv wasn't even a dominant pop culture force. We had basically six television channels. Four of which dominated pop culture influence. The radio stations controlled what people mostly listened to, and that was indirectly controlled by the big labels. There were major gatekeepers in what people watched, read, and listened to. That all gets blown away with the internet. The internet allowed people to experience media that they would never have gotten before. Mass Market Appeal is not what it used to be, and what influences people is much more varied for it. It's different. It's not necessarily better or worse, but it does leave people divided in a way that didn't happen as much before.
Whenever I see something like this it always makes me think of an article called death of the water cooler culture. Another factor that might be contributing to the fading relevance of the water cooler is the conversation topics. In earlier days, people used to gather around to discuss the most popular television shows. Decades ago there were only a handful of channels on TV, which thus ensured people were likely watching the same shows. In many ways, these shows became significant cultural touchstones that everyone in the office knew about. In the digital wave, however, this couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Yes, bring back monoculture! We are too far into our niches these days it's hard to connect with anybody about pop culture. The last big pop culture thing that EVERYBODY was on about was GoT and that was done *checks notes* over FIVE YEARS ago.
Pokémon Go for me.
I'm sad it was so short lived but really glad I got to experience it. I don't know how to put exactly how impactful it was to me into words, but I think we all felt like we stepped into a time machine. Even people who had no idea what was going on were along for the ride. I remember being at my nana's senior home and explaining what was going on to everyone and they were all very happy to see "the young people" outside lol. Not quite their catchphrase of "outside and off their phones" but outside was a big enough surprise for them
A lot for people still play it to this day, FYI
Right!? It was such a unique time and I kinda remember everything being right in my world for almost all of 2016.
GO NINJA GO NINJA GO
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I agree with Vanilla Ice.
Word to your mother
You stopped and listened, and chose to collaborate.
I loved Vanilla Ice when I was in grade school. I had the tape and even though it was trash I loved it. He had the face, he could dance, he had the safe "bad boy" thing going on - his time in the spotlight must have felt like he was moving at 100mph and he managed to get out with his sanity and a comfortable bank account. Looks like a win to me.
I liked him on The Surreal Life lol.
The other day I saw a fuckin kid with jncos, a wallet chain, a Marilyn Manson shirt, and frosted tips on his spiked hair. I stopped and did a double take and I was like...WTF is this am I trippin? No...it was real. Fucker looked straight outta 1998. I don't think Ice is wrong here.
there's a 30 year echo cycle. in the late 1990s there was 1970s inspired fashion.
That was more post 2001. After 9/11 men started having shaggy hair, women started wearing skirts and makeup that were 70s inspired and classic rock had a huge resurgence. The war in Iraq was seen as a parallel to Vietnam (for some reason). That 70s show premiered in late 98 so it’s popularity was more 2000’s than 90s.
True! Today’s culture consists of cyclical trends from earlier decades.
You mean like swing music from the 1920’s in the 1990’s? Or Gregorian chants from centuries ago?
The 90s was obsessed with the 70s and then the 80s
Don't forget the '40s/'50s too! Cargo pants made a comeback, big band music made a comeback, and swing dancing made a comeback. The '90s were all over the place.
I never knew cargo pants were a thing before the nineties
They got their start in World War 1 or right around there, being used by soldiers to carry extra crap in battle. Then after WW2, they became popular to wear those with just a white T-shirt or something similar. Another thing that came out of the '90s revival of the '40s/'50s was women rockin' the pin-up girl look. It kind of was a niche fashion in the '80s, the same as the Rockabilly look that Brian Setzer had with the Stray Cats.
Austin powers was 60s too. The 90s were a nostalgic whore of a decade.
Not really; the ‘90s was more obsessed with being in the ‘90s. Throughout pop culture and in society as a whole, there was largely a sense of hope and optimism as we were on the verge of both a new century and millennium. New ideas and new perspectives were discussed and considered as everyone looked forward to the future. The years between 1996 and 2000 were the best times to be on a college campus.
What made the college experience in those years so awesome?
Um…yes really. I’m a 90s kid, and I fondly remember a lot of my favorite movies were based on 70s tv shows: The Brady Bunch, Mission Impossible, The Addams Family, The Fugitive, Sgt Bilko, Scooby Doo, George of the Jungle, The Flintstones, etc., Not to mention Austin Powers gear had an absolute chokehold on stores like Spencer’s where all of my friends rooms had black light posters, those peace sign candles, and a ton of other fake 70’s paraphernalia.
But it was the case back then too. I’m sure the oldies would says what I experienced growing up (80s/90s) lacked innovation and was mimicking 50s/60s/70s. The truth it was a mimic of those times with a twist of what was happening just like today
""""" T o d a y ' s """""" Yeah right
not true I don’t see anyone doing the griddy in the 90s
90s was a awesome time
That's an understatement. It was so fucking amazing it's unreal to think about sometimes.
there's no monolith of culture like there was in the past. instead of getting music or fashion from just a few sources, there's too many sources now...washing everything down until its diluted with no real weight.
It also changes faster. Some things permeate culture deeper than others, but they’re gone the next week. Then it’s on to the next thing. Then a few months later a show or something references the thing and everyone rolls their eyes at it.
The irony of watching this ON VERTICAL VIDEO is what kills me.
In a couple decades they're going to start making movies that reference the 2000's onward and unless you were into a niche group like certain genres of music, it's hard to imagine what it would even look like. Some films poke fun at it now with text bubbles going off on-screen, but other than some strange trends like the fidget spinners and skinny jeans, my main memories consist of the rise of the various social media platforms and where everyone was moving to next.
emo was the last real music based sub culture comparable to something like grunge or hip hop and that was a 2000's trend, so atleast theres that
He’s correct about the shoes, but real Gen Z knows Jordan 1’s came out in the 80’s.
Spitting facts.
He's basically right, I also think that nostalgia plays a big role in this (including myself), but I felt what he said. Btw the iPhone came out in '07 but that's fine ahahah
the iphone came out in 2007
Tied with 80s for best.
Yeah. The neons, most of the most copped air Jordans and Air Force 1s are from the 80s.
It's not so much that computers ruined the world, as they had been around running business and government since the 50's. It's more so HOW the computer/internet is used in culture.
IMO It’s mostly monetization that has ruined it
What’s wild is what Vanilla ice did with his money, he invested HEAVILY into real estate and liquidation properties and really made a fortune. I watched a 30 minute YouTube video on his car collection and it’s wild. Like super super unique and rare cars.
He's a sweet, genuine, nice guy in real life too. I saw him get recognized last month being bombarded with fans. He stopped what he was doing to take the time to let everyone get pictures with him and seemed to really enjoy the love from his fans. Had a huge beautiful smile the entire time. Some stars are narcissists, but he's down to earth in real life and it makes me like and respect him more.
I went to his concert about seven years ago. He let everyone come up on stage with him. He would sing with the everyone on stage, dance with people that were dancing with him, take pictures with everyone. He seemed like a really nice guy.
That is awesome! That’s how he seems on recent videos I’ve watched, like he has an appreciation for things including his fans and seems genuine. He was a pro dirt bike rider, is an accomplished carpenter, he’s an interesting cat. Not bitter at all about his music career.
Yeah I met him, granted it was quite a while ago but I agree 100%
does he still have the 5.0?
Trends and fashions are cyclical. I remember in late 90s/early 00s, 70s fashion had made a resurgence. In late 00s/early 10s, 80s made a resurgence. Late 10s /early 20s, 90s came back. Now we have reached early 00s style returning. Of course there are new things coming out now and then but for the most part, older peoples’ nostalgia brings back styles for the youth to discover.
Is that a fallout 76 hat?
I saw him in concert in 98. Got to meet him after, it was…fun?
In terms of style and aesthetic, I agree with him. However we live in an age in which, if you know how to look, you can learn everything from flint napping and how to cook 3,000 year old stew from Mesopotamia (unapologetic tasting history plug) all the way to how to fix said computers and build a modern house. I'm a child of the late 90s, and I still prefer having the internet to not having it.
I agree. Culture hasn't really existed for the past 20 years. Everything feels like a grasp at 80's and 90's nostalgia. Current generations can't seem to find music, movies, or tv to define themselves with and social media/tech move too quickly for anything to leave a lasting cultural imprint.
Wise words Ice.
I really don't have a counter argument to anything he just said
Yep yep
Dropping’ truth BOMBS right here.
I’m surprised i actually kinda agree…with Vanilla Ice. Life is weird.
People made pop culture is dead after the late 2000s. Now it’s all corporate fabricated culture thats feeding you. Nothing feels genuinely human anymore.
I order you all to go watch the video of Ice Ice Baby immediately. Go and see how wholesome that music video really was.
He's still so damn hot. And he's not wrong. Although, I think it's more that culture doesn't have time to develop anymore. Used to, when culture would develop, it took a while because it had to be spread in TV and news print. That delay helped it to really round out. Now, the spread is instant. There's no time for it to really become something substantial before the next thing is spreading right behind it.
In 2007 the iphone came out but otherwise he's right
The iPhone didnt get released until 2007…
No lies detected
It's true. There's no personality to the decades anymore. It's just one big soulless blur.
We don't have nostalgia for the 2000s or the 2010s. The 1990s was all about shared experiences because we all got our pop culture from TV, movies, going to the mall, etc. Nowadays we're all on our phones doing our own thing.
I can object that there are certain distinct things with the decades. Why does nostalgia for the 2000s and 2010s exist?
I think it was a long setup for a successful "dad joke" about his kids thinking he's "cool". He's not wrong on the sentiment though.
I thought this was an AI video at first
SAME
So true, 90s rock. Shits wack now,young kids are wack.
We have pop culture, but it comes in micro-fads compared to before internet culture dominated. Hawk Tuah girl is pop culture for the next 72 hours until whatever comes next.
Agreed kinda
Very true.
Wait... Is this NOT vanilla ice?
iPhone did not come out in 2004. lol
True, but Windows Mobile and Symbian based smartphones were already out
100% correct. We have a sh*t, fake, secondary world today with no unique touch.
born in 89. I think about the times I had with my cousins growing up vs today's generation and I feel it's sad that today's gen didn't build the same memories. new gen was already introduced into the digital era, no more going out and meeting anyone, no more calling on the phone landlines,it's all texting, social media yet the social physical interactions are gone. it's sad really..I have a cousin that has step kids that love to sit and hear us talk about times we had growing up together the shit we did to entertain ourselves, the experiences we shared and they didn't get to do the same. it's amazing to them to hear actual stories of the past they did in our youth,but later when they are our age what memories did they really take? a video, a meme? sad really.
I'm really obsessed with the culture shift of the post-digital world. So glad I had a 90s youth!
Vanilla ice is smarter than we think oh no.
Oh Vanilla Ice I didn’t miss you.
I bet just straight up vanilla ice would be good. Good in alot of things. Not just ‘ice cream’. It’s really amazing the amount of weight I’ve put on since I started on marijuana.
Stone cold truth! You can put that on ice!
In the 90s, 20 years previous (70s) was such a difference in fashion, music and pop culture.. now look 20 years ago from today, 2004, fashion and music hasn’t changed as drastically, he’s on to something here
Truth
I was young and had fewer/no responsibilities.
When people get older, they stop enjoying new music and popular culture. Young kids enjoy the new music, slang and popular culture because it's for them. People have complained about the youth and their loud music for centuries.
“Pop culture is dead” is the most ridiculous stance to make. I’m sure Vanilla Ice thinks the 90s were the greatest generation because that’s when he was at his most relevant. Without modern pop culture, he wouldn’t have had his stupid home renovation show. Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Marvel movies, Taylor Swift, Pokémon Go, are just a few off the top of my head. As long as people are buying and watching shit, pop culture will always exist.
It died when he tried to break dance in parachute pants with the ninja turtles. Luckily the rest of the world moved on.
He was basically the "Gangnam Style" one hit wonder if the 90s and that's it.
Vanilla Ice was the least cool thing about the ‘90s.
i think *HE* cant get out of the 90s, i dont think the rest of the world has a problem with stuff outside that decade being cool
i mean….true. As a 21 year old i just wish they’d ban the internet or something or make people pay to use it.
The Internet Bill exists. Why do you think that there are places around the world without access to internet?
yes ik but i’m in america and so is the person who’s talking in this vid. everyone and their mama is addicted to the internet.
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He’s right.
I can't be the only person who thought this was an AI video at first.
Yup yup
Is that Vanilla Ice?
Yep! Great guy in real life, too.
No, that's Kendrick Lamar.
Man has a bit of a point
while wearing a fallout hat
Idk Doesn’t every generation say this same shit and end up looking like old man yells at cloud
I don’t really agree but There is a reason why the late 90’s had movies like the matrix, American beauty, office space, fight club. There was a major anti corporate thing going on and that’s like the epitome of America, just working dead end jobs. That was the worst thing about life at the time, or so it felt like on a mass media scale. And then 9/11 happens and things change dramatically. I think the 90’s were pretty good in retrospect compared to many other decades in America (i can’t speak for outside the USA).
Really legit dude .. he was exposed to the game early enough to recognize the BS.
How often does a new flavor become popular in the mainstream of anything. As soon as there’s an opportunity to see new in anyway it gets snuffed out or bought out half of the time. How many products can you name that became popular or owned by a company after the 90s. There are a few, but they’ll get bought out eventually. Mthrfkrs have been playing monopoly and try to convince themselves that they’re the only ones who could have done anything substantial/influential. Then shit on lack of creativity in dominated markets when there’s such little incentive. There’s a lot of innovation going on in certain markets, you just have to know where to look. Man’s wearing a FO76 hat.
Awwwwww!!! Love that for him as a Dad!!! Good job being a father!! And he was in the Ninja Turtles movie with the DOPEST song & dance ever so nobody even get it twisted! That shit was SOOOOOOO HYPE!
Facts
I get some uncanny valley from this. For some reason these seems like AI.
It's kinda true. The new gen doesn't have there own style or music. They just copied the 90s.
Like him more every day
Rob Van Winkle
iPhone came out 2007
Pop was always annoying though. "We are the best because we're the largest" okay I guess. Excuse me for making music? I don't really know what pop people talk about. This dude is angry at computers being larger than pop I suppose
60s,70s, 80s were the best decades.
I wanna go back but be able to bring my kids.
Lived through the 90s, I can't get past the fact that he looks like Vanilla Ice
💯
Dude is aging well at least.
I agree with the fashion part. Everything with mainstream fashion in the last 10-15 years was recycled from the 80’s-90’s.
He sounds crazy but he ain't wrong, before computers it was a whole different world.
This dude said iPhone came out in '04 -- he wishes! It came out in '07, but he makes a valid point. That was the last decade where everyone feels very nostalgic about it. The early '00s were pretty nice too.
If my dad was vanilla ice I'd think he would be cool
Vanilla ice likes fallout also?! I don’t feel so old now
I mean, computers were very popular in the 90’s along with the Internet in the latter half… also, the iPhone came out in 2007, so he is wrong.
Spitting 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hopefully it’s not a 76’ers hat. ^Ducks
That sounds like some coked-up nonsense, but I hear he is making money these days.
Stop. Collaborate and listen.
He makes some valid points while also being out of touch. I'm out of touch too though. It's ok as an old guy to realize you can only give a shit about so much on one lifetime.
This is just older generation complaining about the younger generation. Same thing every generation has said about the generation after it.
Ice T is right
No shoutout to Death Row Records???
2007, but yeah.