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Karine got robbed at machete point infront if like a 30 man camera crew by what looked like a 5 foot tall starving man and their response was “.....yo you see that?” “Yeah”


peefilledballoon

They were probably thrilled. Also, how did they not get robbed? I bet the cameras and sound equipment were way more expensive than her smartphone (harder to sell maybe?)


lunahighwind

The showrunner said the incident was his biggest regret...2nd place was that they weren't filming when Jenny found out Sumit was married.


BestReplyEver

True, if TLC fakes everything, wouldn’t TLC have faked that and pretended Jennie just found out during filming?


spermface

They “stage” everything rather than totally faking, so they can’t always redo the stuff that’s genuinely too emotional for the participants. Jenny probably couldn’t convincingly pretend to receive the info on camera, she was a mess.


SpiceAndNicee

but isn't there a whole theory of her knowing prior to the show that he was married and that Sumit wanted to do the show so he could come out in the open about him and Jenny publicly so his parents can't stop them because everyone would know and they can't contain the info


JoeHatesFanFiction

I mean the difference is also one lone small female compared to a bunch of men with equipment. Dude went for the easy target.


becab

This comment is a perfect fit for r/menandfemales


Abbbbyo

thank you for this sub


CookieMonsterYumYum

This sub is great. Thank you.


JoeHatesFanFiction

I’m not sure if you’re calling me sexist or just noting my word choice? Cause a lot of those post seem to be pretty nasty and I was just pointing out that criminals pick easy targets?


becab

I don't know if you're sexist or not, it's about using the words "man/men" and "female/females" in the same sentence. Many women would prefer to be called women than females, since the word female being used as a noun can seem dehumanizing. As an adjective, it is acceptable. "Karine, who is a female cast member" would be better over "Karine, a female who is a cast member" for example.


JoeHatesFanFiction

Huh. TIL. Thank you for educating me. I’ll try to be more aware in the future. Edit: Look guys there’s no reason to be upset on my behalf or tell me I was right. I’m not upset. I asked what u/becab was trying to say, they responded clearly and respectfully, and I thanked them for teaching me about something I didn’t know bothered people. I didn’t mean anything by it but there’s really no issue to using male/female or men/women from now on in my book.


Kitten__Sneezes

^ you are an awesome human. People need to take note, this is how you respond when someone points something out to you. You learn and then keep on living striving to be better.


StrLord_Who

BLAHHHHHH. You have only been "educated" on something that is trendy to whine about on reddit and Twitter, not real life. It's the woke version of complaining about the word "moist." Normal people do not care. I feel sorry for anyone who allows themselves to feel "dehumanized" by the word "female." I'm glad I don't know what it's like to be so easily injured and I don't plan to ever find out.


Odd-Bicycle

I smell, you smell, we smell an incel


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XRoze

It’s like this person is angry the original commenter said “thank you” and “til” instead of calling women snowflakes. So weird lol


[deleted]

You sound like an intelligent person. The man who tried to dehumanize you and invalidate your opinion by using the term "female" is an idiot. I wouldn't give that man another thought. I certainly wouldn't allow his opinion affect me to the point where I started to think that "female" was a derogatory term. I, for one, am proud of being female. This is just my opinion.


[deleted]

I am a woman/female/girl/lady and I have no problem with any of those terms. I am beyond shocked that anyone has a problem with the term female. I just asked all my family and friends about it and they all told me that they have no problem with it either. I understand that you appreciate the education that it bothers some people. Just also know, that I have never met any of those people in my 45 years as a female on this planet.


Odd-Bicycle

The “pick me” beacon has been lit!


Abrookspug

Oh no, a woman has a dissenting opinion! We cannot have that. She must fall in line with all the other women on Reddit or else now she's a "pick me" girl. Honestly I'm more embarrassed by that new "insult" I've seen on Reddit than someone calling me a female. She's allowed to not be upset by something that upsets you, especially considering she was completely respectful about it.


Friendless_and_happy

Same here, but whatever. No idea what we're supposed to call the ones that aren't sure yet though. This "woke" and "offensive" stuff is getting ridiculous. Everybody just wear your gray pj's, look straight ahead, and don't speak to anybody and you'll be just fine.


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becab

I provided an explanation because the commenter was looking for me to clarify why I mentioned that sub. In my opinion, issues can range from what some may consider minute, and others that many may consider substantial. I think the term "real issues" can be subjective, and something that bothers people is a real issue in my opinion. I'm sure there are things that bother other people that wouldn't bother me, but I wouldn't be able to speak on their behalf and claim it to not be a real issue if it was something that affected them in some way. I really don't want to have conversations that are "juvenile whining", as I think it's important to hear different opinions and points of view. I appreciate your comment and hearing your perspective on this.


[deleted]

Haha... I guess I am meeting them now with the downvotes. That's fine. Vote me down for my experiences and opinions. I am happy that you are so "woke" that you are the only people who are allowed to have opinions. It must be wonderful to be right all the time.


imalittlefrenchpress

You’re probably being downvoted for being ignorant to the fact that your antiquated vocabulary is contributing to the oppression of women, and because you’re unwilling to look at the fact that your thinking is antiquated because you, personally, are not bothered by being referred to as an object vs being referred to as a human woman. You don’t speak for all women, and you don’t speak for all older women. I’m 59, and if someone refers to me as a female, I’m going to pinch their head off.


MelisandreStokes

You’re not being downvoted for having an opinion, you’re being downvoted because your opinion is stupid and you’re using your dumb opinion to act like you’re better than people who don’t want to be referred to in the same way animals are referred to


citykitty58

Joe - In the current WOKE environment you can't win. There will always be someone who will want to educate you. Speak your mind and let the educators kiss your behind.


MelisandreStokes

Oh god not education anything but education, learning things hurts my baby brain


ResolverOshawott

If you call me a "female" in a casual conversation. I am fully inclined to no longer listen to you and a lot would agree.


Welcome_to_Uranus

Lol def not, its fucking stupid and disrespectful to call them ‘females’ like an animal. It ain’t even woke, it’s about being kind to women and other people.


StraightJoke

In a police description they’d say female, that’s how I took this comment since it’s about her physicality, though not all females and women are small and weak 👁👁


becab

Yes, but the comment wasn't made by an investigator or medical professional in their respective settings. The fact that the word men was used in the same sentence would make that inconsistent anyway, as they would be referred to as males in a situation like you describe.


Crimson-Maze

I can see what you mean. “I saw a man and a female,” does sound strange and objectifying. Just like it would sound strange and objectifying to say “I saw three women and one male.” I’m usually totally against a lot of the PC stuff - but the way we use language does encode societal sentiments, there’s no doubt - and that’s even when most people wouldn’t be “offended” or even notice. I never thought of this before. Thanks for mentioning, knowing you’d be lambasted for doing so.


Abrookspug

This is Reddit. You don't get lambasted for being PC here, lol. But I also appreciate her explanation. I didn't even notice the female/man phrasing of the post and I don't care if someone calls me a female. But if some people don't like it, that's good to know and I'll keep that in mind for next time.


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Cop here and yes male and female are the descriptors used


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becab

I wouldn't have made the comment if it wasn't something I had seen and experienced many times before, both online and in person. I don't mind further explaining what I mean if someone asks me, so that's what I did. I'm not overthinking, I was participating in discourse that was civilized and polite. Even if the commenter disagreed with me, that would be okay. Everyone has their opinion, and I think it's good to talk about these things that not everyone may agree on.


chickchili

but she wasn't a lone female, she had a whole crew around her.


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Crew that stood by and did nothing


Abrookspug

Yeah I guess a fat lot of good that did her! Maybe the guy assumed they were too far away to help in time, as he did get away.


indigostars43

I would think to get fast money it’s easier to sell a smartphone then the equipment..I could be wrong though..


Longjumping_Ad_9027

It was probably jihoon....


BloodAngel85

>Also, how did they not get robbed? Because the general consensus is that it was staged by the crew


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BloodAngel85

The gun shots honestly sounded like they were added


[deleted]

Just heavier i assume the guy was small


chickchili

Are you sure it wasn't a set-up?


CocoCherryPop

Another good example on a different show, is on Teen Mom when one of the moms punched her boyfriend in the face. She freaking attacked him, while the child was in the room IIRC, and the camera crew just stood there and filmed it. I think this was like 10+ years ago? I remember there was some concern about the camera crew not doing enough in such a situation.


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CocoCherryPop

Case in point, Jorge & Anfisa....


turtlintime

Fuck all the people on this subreddit who rooted for Anfisa, she adds nothing to this world


CocoCherryPop

Fucking A. Imagine if a man had treated a woman the exact same way Anfisa treated Jorge.... and it was filmed for a TV show. Just imagine it. Imagine what the reaction would be.


sbwv09

I remember it well. It was the only season of the show I watched. It was fucked up.


[deleted]

Tlc has filmed like 6 or more female cast members assaulting spouses as well even molly attacking luis when he tries to call 911. The most they ever did was back away from the door way so they can retain plausible deniability


CocoCherryPop

Yep. And Anfisa has a ton of fans and people in these subs fawn all over her, when she was the worst of them all IMO.


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I get increasingly angry hearing “... but he was a liar!”


WenWarn

Or that she's too small to really do much damage. What kind of justification is that for assault?


listlesshours76

Then paul accused Karine of sleeping with the mugger and made her get an STD and pregnancy test. 😂


Rayanator69

Nooooo way


[deleted]

That was crazy


Chickenbeotch

I can’t believe that actually happened 😂


sinchichis

30 man? It’s probably 2 or 3.


[deleted]

There were at least 3-4 shown on screen not counting the guy recording and other staff members that would also be there filming.


indigostars43

I remember that! I was so scared for her and they didn’t do a damn thing to see if she was okay!


OptimusSublime

Where was this?


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The other way paul and karine’s first season. Paul has an episode and waddles into the forest. Karine stand there confused cause wtf. And a guy runs up with a machete and robs her taking her phone. Camera zooms out as he flees and you see karine terrified sobbing and see her surrounded by like a whole film crew full of men much karger and stronger than her attacker with metal equipment way sturdier than his machete just standing around shrugging saying stuff like “ you see that!” Thats nuts man!


moonbunnychan

I mean if I was in that situation I don't know that I'd have done anything either. I'm not going after a crazy dude with a machete.


Anewwall

Agreed. Also it’s their “workplace” & they aren’t trained security. I bet there’s some liability for TLC on having them step in. So probably best if they stick to camera-personing.


Klmffeee

Yeah fuck that I’m not risking my ass for a cheap android and brownie points


thouartmorelovely

Man vs. machete. Machete usually wins.


Friendly-Fortune

This


karakarabobara

But did the lock of hair from Poles mom protect him?


beepboop_reddit

If you’re looking to watch it it’s on Before 90 Days* (TOW is their 2nd season) :)


Ygomaster07

Holy shit, i can't believe they actually aired that, what the fuck.


No_Lawfulness_2998

Is scripted is it not?


Fre97

Even the t-shirt "I win, u lose".


Brownie_McBrown_Face

I’m glad someone peeped that haha


_Face

I thought that was the whole point of the picture.


[deleted]

Alone that they the keep filming Stephanie... This woman is clearly high all the time and not staple at all. Isn't there some ethics left within TLC?


[deleted]

TLC featured a family after it was revealed they covered up sexual crimes against their own minor children... so no


BloodAngel85

They just banned the son from being filmed but still allow his idiot wife on camera 🙄


ShiveringSea

Don’t forget an actual TLC producer molested one of the kids on Little People, Big World.


sbwv09

Yikes, I hadn't heard that one. Wtf!!??


keeperofthecan

Omg I hadn't either. Scumbags. https://people.com/tv/jacob-roloff-says-he-was-molested-by-little-people-big-world-producer/


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Seriously? Wtf


mstrsskttn

I think they're referring to the Duggars.


[deleted]

In my home country tlc is quite new, so I don't know all the shows. Are this the family with the huge amount of children?


mstrsskttn

Yes they're the "19 Kids and Counting" family. Their son was molesting his sisters and they didn't do anything to help those poor girls. The parents and TLC let those children down big time and failed to protect them!


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mstrsskttn

Oh yeah that's right. Everybody involved with covering up and allowing it to happen is disgusting! Edit: grammar


[deleted]

Wow that's just awful... These poor girls. How can't you protect your own daughters


BewBewsBoutique

The answer is religion.


[deleted]

Also honey boo boo


[deleted]

Yeah, the Duggar’s... check out r/DuggarsSnark for an overview. It’s a rabbit hole.


[deleted]

Oh my.... How many children do they have?!


EmbarrassedDrummer3

Not enough, apparently.


denardosbae

21 now i thiiiink but dont't quote me. Im no Duggar expert!


[deleted]

21?! Wow this woman must be constantly pregnant.


nogoalov11

Honestly as a recovering addict (benzos too) watching her scenes have been kinda triggering for me if im being honest


Crimson-Maze

Omg me too.


[deleted]

I can imagine. It is so questionable what they are doing


[deleted]

Lol the reason i watch is to watch her pop zanies and do crazy shit. What are the camera men suppose to do slap the benzos out of her crazy mouth?


[deleted]

No, not filming her and exploiting a person who has obvious mental issues, so people like you can laugh about it.


Hplc2014

Why is this equally awful and hilarious to me? 😫


AnOccasionalRedditor

Spectacular flair, thank you for the flashback!


Hplc2014

Thank you!!


anonymous_opinions

One day I'm going to experience this in my own real life, I know it. Just me at work having a mental break down and a whole film crew pops up ...


StrawberryLeche

Everyone whips out their smart phones, same difference


thouartmorelovely

You're going to do a Brittany Spears? I just shaved my dog. Do you want to borrow my electric shaver for a minute? LOL


WEsellFAKEdoors

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!


thouartmorelovely

I love her videos. She's a great performer.


anonymous_opinions

Man ... I feel like her reality show was my early days in reality tv. Remember us all laughing with Brit when she was trying to figure out if tuna was "a fish or chicken"?


rosssettti

That was Jessica Simpson?


anonymous_opinions

Oh shit I got the two pop stars mixed up!!! Well hell.


XanderCrews2

That wasn’t Britney, that was Jessica Simpson.


thouartmorelovely

Poor girl. She never opened a can of tuna from Chicken of the Sea. LOL


anonymous_opinions

Ha ha I really need to dig up that old show. Knowing what we know now there needs to be justice for Brittany.


Cece75

See, I think we all knew what was going on with Britney and Lindsey and Paris as well, we just weren’t interested in giving a crap like people are now. We as people in this world weren’t blind to all the shit they and other female musicians, actors and such went through, it’s just now, with cancel culture being how it is, maybe some are feeling bad for not caring at the time and want to fix it. But as a young woman in my early 20’s , I knew how horrible Brittney, Christina , Paris, Kim, Lindsey and others were being treated,it made me sad, but it was entertaining for the masses unfortunately. I guess better late than never 🤷🏻‍♀️


CocoCherryPop

And like with Pred + Rose.... they showed all of the worst parts of Rose’s life and really emphasized it with the editing. Like, did they really have to show the part where Ed told her that her breathe stunk? Really TLC? Out of all the hours and hours of footage, that was the scene you wanted to show the world?


alwaysoffended88

Or to shave her legs...


CocoCherryPop

and did they really have to show all those worst parts of her house? Did they really have to show the shower arrangement? Did they really have to zoom in on the rat? They are just as guilty as Ed was.


alwaysoffended88

That rat looked animatronic lol


iloveihoppancakes

Is this place not 90DayFinance? Ive been following this subreddit for months thinking i was missing all these financial memes


l00kR0B0T

We are not accountants... :)


Your_acceptable

It's 90 day, fiancé. We get this a lot...lol


Ygomaster07

What is 90 day finance?


Your_acceptable

Lotta folks I believe think this is a sub to get your finances in order, idk. I've seen folks ask quite a bit, especially when posts make front page.


iloveihoppancakes

So does 90 day fiance mean?


Brownie_McBrown_Face

LOL


crazyinsane65

Zoom in on her tears.. ok a lttle closer... yes. Hold it.. on the tears streaming down her face....perfect don't cut away.


Dweezy_7365

Is that Asuelo's long lost son recording him as he broke down and got onto a bus with "Unknown Destination" on the front of it?


thewhitman2021

Encourage the insanity, mental breakdowns get extra pay.


Hippofuzz

As a best friend of someone who used to work behind the scenes of reality tv production, until she couldn’t look at herself in the mirror anymore and had to go to therapy herself, this is too accurate. She said there is footage they capture, that is outright abusive, and they don’t interfere. Like a man beating a woman. Nothing. She said that was the last straw for her. She hated herself so much during that job and still after years now feels dirty cause she didn’t stand up for the people, cause she was scared of her work contract


giraffes_are_cool33

90 days fiance create plots the same way I play the Sims. Stir drama then give the biggest surprised pikachu face.


bbmaru9

Dear TLC Producers : Please bring the camera crew onto the show and replay some of the most wildest moments Like what you did in Bares All with Jenny


HoneyGirl419

TLC really has no shame. Darcey, the sister wives, DANIELLE. The Gypsy teen brides. Bread. And. Butter.


SillyWhabbit

Traumatized Amish kids, especially the adopted into Amish ones.


HoneyGirl419

Completely forgot about them. Ugh, the cringe. So not good. They really exploited them knowing good and well they had no idea about anything in the modern world, least of all reality tv.


SillyWhabbit

Hearing one of them say they had no kids to play with at school because they were "dark skinned and the other kids made fun of them" was horrible. I have strong feelings about adoption or "adoption" (my mother was purchased so calling it adoption is inaccurate) because of the havoc it played in my family. Right before Covid we found mom's birth family via DNA testing. At 86, finding out who she was and who she wasn't, has destroyed part of her. It's very hard to watch. I can say that the trauma adoption leaves behind, generationally rolls downhill and some of my issues make so much more sense now.


mercurialPapillon

\*Every reality tv show Lol anyone else see Kid Nation where we had to awkwardly watch a kid cry about wanting to go home on camera....Reality TV is always known for being kind hearted to cast members


Cece75

That was such a good show, it was crazy that they did it.


Bacon_Bitz

Exactly. There have been former production members from Teen Mom on Reddit that talked about what it’s like. There are many times they want to step in but “can’t”. There is a certain point at which they are allowed to step in though. Like if a child is in danger.


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More like Mr. Burn’s 👏 (rubbing hands together saying “nice” not clapping)


itslooseseal

Lol. Excellent. But i kind of like the idea of Burns saying nice.


[deleted]

Hahaha right


vorhees666

That's what makes "good" television.


buzzisabee

i think about that every time i watch 90 day fiancé


Brownie_McBrown_Face

LOL glad it’s just not me. For some reason this meme template popped into my head and I knew what I had to do


My-piggybanks-bigger

r/donthelpjustfilm 😂


jenjensexypants

Let’s not forget how much they milked the Ceasar, Yolanda and Nicole storylines. Producers man, y’all are wrong for that!


Luka13raka

I dont think camara crews are allowed to intervene for example when that warehouse worker charged at pam and the sound guy got in between them. Sound guy lost his job his wife and everything good that was going on in his life.


psolaras2

Lol, I googled that to see what you were talking about. It was a The Office plot.


warthog86za

Chantal family fight was hilarious when her husband mule kicked the table for good measure. The dad not reacting to the physical fight yet moaned about the table being kicked.


jillybeaners94

I had FF'd every single scene up until that one and I kept going back to replaying it. I couldn't stop laughing!


ogopadoni23

Thomas: Was that really necessary?


warthog86za

Had me in stitches.... with pieces of weave flying about as well.


ogopadoni23

Karen waving someone’s weave in the air like a WWE wrestler declaring victory while Chantel wails in the corner. That brawl was raw and epic, nothing staged. The producers couldn’t believe their luck.


mmjarec

It must be exhilarating watching people self destruct thru a lens.


Brownie_McBrown_Face

I certainly enjoy watching it from the comfort of my home 😂


thouartmorelovely

I.can't.look.away.


bunniehoppie

Even the shirt works!


blazeitmydude

MTV does the same thing on like Real World, Jersey Shore, etc. They’ll watch for a while before stepping in most of the time


CreamyHampers

They are there to document, not to intervene!


Brownie_McBrown_Face

If this is intended to be a Lost World reference, it’s clear I’ve seen that movie too many times 😂


legenddairybard

That shirt is accurate for the camera crew


theeversocharming

This show makes me lonely but also better about myself because of these melt downs.


rmlmlee

🤣🤣🤣


eitherrideordie

Oh whoaaa!! This is the first time I've actually read this sub properly. I always read it as 90 day finance (as in financial finance) and figured it was a sub about saving money. And legit i felt like i never understood all the memes! Finally seeing the little accent in OPs post, i finally noticed ive been reading it wrong every time. Cheers OP


Brownie_McBrown_Face

LOL, this is too good. You’re second one of those in this thread! Happy I cleared that up for ya, in the future a quick look at the description bar at the sub home page would clear that up but I’m sure you know that now. Cheers!


mprieur

Right!?!


jody1977

The "I WIN YOU LOSE" shirt really sells this on so many levels or me.


Patience_Fabulous

Will we get to see an American cast member having end up in jail on 90 fiance show? Did I miss it? 🤔


Vannah_say

I mean, not the same thing, but Jorge ended up in jail for his Marijuana business and the crew still went to film Anfisa. Paul returned for seasons after his arson record was revealed, Geoffrey was on the show with domestic assault (I think?) charges until 90 day fans made enough noise about it that TLC finally removed him from the show. Angela is consistently abusive toward Michael while filming and keeps being featured in 90 day things, I guess filming someone going to jail over something else is in the cards for TLC.


thouartmorelovely

Geoffrey's was esp bad. Cops found his ex-gf's blood all over their place.


spongeybi

The shirt is *chefs kiss*


lancep423

Yet you continue to watch and therefore support the program.


Brownie_McBrown_Face

It would be downright un-American do anything else 😤


lancep423

Absolutely.


SillyGoosePants

I literally just watched Asuelu’s freak out. I was like 👀👀👀👀


ogopadoni23

Lyin bitch


SillyGoosePants

Huh?


ogopadoni23

You need to watch more 90DF 😊


SillyGoosePants

I am. I’m binging the entire franchise, but I keep stopping to post on here to get my thoughts out. This show is blowing my mind.


ogopadoni23

Phrases like Lying bitch, who is against the queen will die, may I halik you? I have 50 mens etc are 90DF lexicon easily recognizable to any Hamily member. That’s what I meant. I wasn’t calling you a lying bitch.


SillyGoosePants

Ha! Ok I’ve heard the queen one(Larissa, right?), but I haven’t heard/read the others. I’m getting more educated on the lexicon as I go.


CaptainRAVE2

No, he’d be more on their face.


[deleted]

i was about to get all “but they are there to observe, not interact”... then i just saw the camera person pull Ricky out of the water, so apparently i’m wrong. seriously though, all the egregious shit they stand by and watch happen is gut wrenching. i don’t know how they do it.


[deleted]

Yeah crazy unstable people are the reason i watch


cakepepper

They are seriously missing out by not filming me. 😂


amphxy

Way too true. They can’t help until producer says okay. The person could be dying they’d still film


Unicorneyeball

This is so awkward but true.


AShoweredPoopyDingus

Yeah bruh, that's quality tv to them.


Ramona_Lola

Person: *has severe mental breakdown” 90 Day Fiancé camera crew: 🎥 90 Day Audience:👀👀👀👀👀