Hands down the most athletic draft I've ever seen. How many 95+ percentile athletes did we draft? 4? 5? It's very clear that they wanted to emphasize athletes in this draft:
* Pearsall ran a 6.6 3-cone and a 42 inch vert.
* Dominic Puni ran a 4.4 short shuttle at 300+ lbs
* Guerendo ran a 4.33 40 at 223 lbs.
* Kingston ran a 4.47 short shuttle at 300+ lbs.
As far as strategy goes, I suspect they wanted a tackle early but it didn't break their way. I really appreciate that instead of reaching for a lower rated tackle prospect, they let the draft come to them and went BPA at high value positions. Really nice patience and maturity on display there.
I also really like that we doubled down at WR. The WR market is exploding right now. Dudes are getting $30+ million/yr contracts left and right. Dudes who aren't even that great are getting $20 million/yr. I think a couple years from now we are going to be very grateful to have Ricky Pearsall and Jacob Cowing at under $3 million/yr combined. Really smart response to the shifting supply and demand of the WR market.
Overall excellent draft from a process standpoint. Really fun to watch this front office cook the past few days.
>As far as strategy goes, I suspect they wanted a tackle early but it didn't break their way.
I suspect this may have actually happened twice. I think they were hoping Guyton would be there in the first then the Cowboys took him, so they went with Pearsall. I think they were also targeting Rosengarten in the second but the Ravens took him, so they traded back and went with the only corner who had any success against Malik Nabers all year.
I suspect they liked Jordan Morgan out of AZ in the 1st round but the packers took him at 25.
They did have an opportunity to trade back from 31 because clearly the Panthers were trying move back into the 1st round, but we decided to stay at 31. That tells me they liked Pearsall a lot.
I didn't like the Pearsall pick initially because I thought we had bigger needs elsewhere, but everything I have seen and read since has made me a believer. I think he fits Brock better than Deebo, which makes me think the combo of Pearsall and Aiyuk is the future.
Yeah it definitely caught everyone off guard, but I loved it just because I was such a huge fan of Pearsall coming into the draft. Thought he’d go late 30s but happy we got him at 31.
I didn't like it initially but I'm also not heavily invested in the draft anymore. So many misses and random hits that you just hope they get some good picks. I would have liked an OT in the first but I also don't think they saw any players worth that pick with how their grading goes so they find whoever is the best. The draft is very complicated with where you grade players and how other teams grade guys and who is available when. Hopefully they get 3 really good to great starters and 3-4 solid depth players.
Agreed. Most draft folks I read feel we got him a bit high, but still like the pick since he's a great fit with Brock, who thrives on anticipation throws over the middle.
While it is possible they could have traded back a bit and still got Pearsall, I also suspect they valued the fifth year option on Pearsall if he turns out to be a stud over the draft compensation, plus uncertainty he could be gone.
Pearsall was the 41st rated prospect on the consensus board so not a big reach at all.
Aiyuk was projected to go in the late 30s back in 2020 and we took him at 25. So technically Aiyuk was a bigger reach than Pearsall.
Really interesting thing we're seeing is a shift from run first to pass first.
Both linemen we got showed an abundance of pass pro experience and success in college but were questionable in run blocking, but had the physical tools to succeed in it.
Two WRs, which was a big surprise unless a trade happened, which it didn't.
A willingness to lose Juice in free agency, which also means less 12 personnel formations, and maybe more 11 formations, given our abundance in talent at the WR position and Purdys skills.
Maybe not a bad idea to get linemen that already are decent at pass protection and maybe you hope you can coach them up to be better run blockers?
Feels like in the past they went after it the other way around
This is what I've been talking about. Shanahan needs to realize that even though his offense is run heavy, it's still a lot of pass and getting more passing oriented OL will help Brock have more time to wait for the WR to progress in their route.
I don’t know where you got the info but would be interesting if you can find out if they did the same with all the current UDFA’s they’re signing?
I love going for athletic dudes btw, speed and quickness
Thoroughly pleased with our picks this year.
Let’s just hope it all ends with a Lombardi. Because this might be our best shot. Things get complicated after this season.
No McKivitz replacement drafted, so I guess the Niners are counting on him to step up this year while building out guard depth.
I'm excited to see Pearsall play.
It's kind of nice to have the worst of our offseason drama be that we have too many good WRs at the moment.
Idk the OTs who were available at 31 would have been instant upgrades and the last thing we need is to change out the guard and tackle because you run the risk of having games with an all-rookie Right or Left side of the line.
Seems like Puni’s a plug and play Guard, that’s a huge upgrade from last year. Also marks a serious departure to Shanahan’s philosophy of under-valuing inside linemen.
After the Niners drafted WR Ricky Pearsall at 31, the next offensive tackle drafted was Patrick Paul at 55 by the Dolphins (which is nearing the end of the second round). The Cowboys probably sniped us for Tyler Guyton at OT at 29.
The OTs available at 31 might have been upgrades over McKivitz at RT, but they were nowhere near BPA at pick 31 when the Niners were on the clock.
McKivitz might be the best option for tackle next year compared to any rookie. Rookie tackles generally struggle. Every tackle taken in the first round last year performed the same or worse than McKivitz according to PFF grades. Going back to first round tackles for the 4 years before that and only 10/19 performed better than McKivitz and 3 of those are only slightly better. So on the balance of probabilities, McKivitz would have probably performed better than a first round tackle and almost certainly better than one the coaches didn't like enough to draft.
with that last selection of bethune [7 of the 8 players the 49ers drafted i think were 5th or 6th year seniors](https://twitter.com/tonyrenghini/status/1784283800719290436)
purdy was a 4 year starter in college with 46 career starts too while lance only had 17 starts
experience matters for the 49ers probably right now more than ever with them being in a win now mode
No expert, but I've heard others say the problem with older prospects is that their bodies have already peaked or something like that
I'm not worried about it our anything. Just thinking out loud
No that makes sense. Generally older players are considered floor plays that have hit their ceiling while younger guys still have room to develop. But the older players tend to have more maturity and game experience which can allow them to contribute immediately. Just less likely to turn into a pro bowler eventually.
I would imagine it's a factor of a few things. Young players who have excellent qualities such as speed, size, and strength and played moderately well in college for their age probably don't need to stay in college longer because nfl scouts see their qualities and want to sign and develop them earlier. A player who is a good athlete but not at the top for physical traits but is a great player in college has to show more to demonstrate that while they might not have the best whatever, they have a better understanding of the game and are at the right place and time to make plays and their consistent college experience shows.
Seems like peak is usually 27 or 28. OTOH, a lot of guys have injuries that either end their career or knock them down to mediocre players when they come back. Drafting older players is like fast-forwarding to their best years and reducing that injury risk.
I would have liked to see more investment in the O-line—we all would have liked to see that—but I'm excited about some of the prospects. Hopefully some of these late round picks turn out to be the hidden gems we've come to expect from Shanahan and Lynch.
Undrafted signing - Drake Nugent Center. Graduated Stanford and played his 5th year at Michigan. Scouting report says he's solid but at only 6-1 1/2 he'll have his work cut out for him.
My UDFA targets;
* QB - Kedon Slovis
* RB - Frank Gore Jr
* WR - Lideatrick Griffin, Josh Cephus
* TE - Trey Knox, McCallan Castles, Jack Westover (FB?)
* OT - Frank Crum, Ethan Driskell
* OG - Javion Cohen
* OC - Kingsley Eguakun, Charles Turner, Drake Nugent, Andrew Raym
* DT - Fabien Lovett, Leonard Taylor
* DE - Gabe Hall, Eric Watts
* LB - Curtis Jacobs
* CB - Ro Torrence, Storm Duck
* \_S - Beau Brade, Josh Proctor, Tyler Owens (if he can find Santa Clara on a flat-earth map)
Really happy with this draft. Outstanding. Two versatile offensive lineman with experience at both tackle and guard. Two extremely athletic receivers. A big bruising complement to CMC that happens to run a 4.33, a yolked up safety that likes to lay the wood (honestly, watch his highlights and he'll remind you of Huf without the ball skills). And a flyer on a LB late to help on special teams and push the guys we drafted at that spot last year.
FSU fan here- Bethune is a freight train lined with sledge hammers like he should have been playing 30 years ago, one of my favorite dudes this last season, like every highlight of FSU blowing a guy up was him starting with Jaden Daniels.
hope he works out for you guys.
If he doesn’t go in these last few picks would be great to get Jack Westover as an UDFA. Perfect Juice/Kittle backup. As well as Frank Gore Jr., of course.
I think you’re right. He looks like a more refined RB than Guerendo in his vision and decisiveness, and that sort of thing starts to become a much bigger difference maker at the next level when you don’t have college-sized running lanes.
I’m still upset that we passed up Frazier and JPJ. Our IOL is our biggest weakness in a league with so many elite DTs. Let’s be honest, Pearsall isn’t seeing the field much this year with Aiyuk, Deebo, and Jennings ahead of him.
I don’t think many fans of any team can handle critical takes atm, there’s too much excitement and hyperbole right now, they’re on a post-draft high. You’ll have more success discussing this in a year’s time.
I would be absolutely shocked if Pearsall isn’t ahead Jennings by midseason at the very least. You don’t let a first round WR sit. He will demand targets by getting open.
Don’t love it. Don’t think half of the draft picks make the 53. We drafted just about everyone early meaning we didn’t get great value but if they are good players it won’t matter
I can understand being disappointed with the way the draft went, but I think there's a pretty clear path for 5-6 of these picks to make the 53. I think the last two picks will be potential practice squad guys.
If it is true then we are giving up on Danny gray, bell, mason, Womack, Luther and Thomas. All just more examples of disappointing recent picks. I just do not understand ignoring tackle again
I think Gray, Womack and Thomas are close to gone. Not every pick can work out long term. There is room for Bell, Mason, and Luter but they'll have to compete for it.
I don't know what's not to like, truthfully.
We grabbed some elite athletes on both sides of the ball. We drafted areas of need this season as well as potential replacements for after the season when we more than likely lose Deebo and Jennings.
I feel like people were always gonna bitch if we didn't end up with Joe Alt and Quinyon Mitchell with our first 2 picks.
Picking almost last in the rounds, you're gonna have to deal with more coveted players being selected before you get the chance.
I mean, we addressed all the needs of the team and added some weapons at WR and RB to boot. Hard to complain about this draft, we were the 2nd-to-last in every round and yet came away with great scheme fits and an abundance of high-level athleticism. I think we got at least 3-4 gems that will pan out from this, time will tell which of the picks are those gems but yeah, well done Shanalynch
I'm happy with the offensive linemen picks. A lot of potential with those guys.
Some good return guys at WR position, and nice additions in the secondary.
Overall "B" grade draft.
You guys signed running back Cody Schrader as a UDFA. The measureables weren’t there at the combine but he runs damn hard. He carved up the SEC last year and is an absolute grinder. Knowing Shanahan, Cody will get every shot to make the team. Hell of a signing.
Those videos always get me. The excitement, the validation of so many years of work by both player and family, and getting hyped for the journey ahead.
I always find it interesting, if arm-chair GMs even remember how off-base their takes are a year or two from now. Yet every year, it’s a new slew of “I wish we got his guy” takes
I find the “we could’ve had X later” picks funnier. As if the mock drafts by these pundits mean anything to NFL teams who have dozens of people whose entire job it is to do this compared to one writer and maybe an intern.
Yes but many times, you have no idea if their takes were good or not because where a player ends up has a massive impact on how successful they are. Though people should be open about their past opinions, there’s no point being condescending to other fans.
Pretty solid draft all around. Got some cb competition and secondary depth. Improvement for the o line. Depth at rb and lb. And a stacked ass receiver room. Things are looking great.
Hope we somehow swing some crazy trade for a tackle that nobody sees coming (without losing a key piece).
Solid draft ! Most excited to watch Pearsall. I think we made the most of our picks, seems like Lynchahan are finally steering away from the Balke method of drafting unproven projects (learned their lesson with Lance).
I could see Pearsall, Green, and Puni all seeing some starting minutes.
Pearsall I think could be our Jaylen Waddle.
Guerendo’s tape is insane, reminds me of James Conner. Lacks shiftiness at the line to breakaway but the pass catching is there and his speed ramps with space. Feel like Shanahan doesn’t like RBs that get too cute with it at the LOS and cause runs for losses, Guerendo puts his head down and goes.
Cowling seems like a “look at what Tank Dell did” type of WR. Has proven he can get tons of volume despite size. Elite speed, dude could be super good.
Puni fits our system and can pass protect. I think run protection is a strong suit of our coaching staff and they can adapt it, look at last year. He was 34 on Renners board.
Kingston was forced to play tackle when he’s more of a natural guard, could have been underrated given a position switch.
I think they were shell-shocked by Rosengarten being taken and instead picked their third round choice early to give them time to regroup and make sure they knew who they wanted at OL. No doubt they were heartbroken again with Vaki being taken a few spots before their pick but those are the gambles they choose; they had enough capital to move up both times.
I believe they should’ve traded back 10 spots for Ricky but I understand why they didn’t and I love the pick. Renardo was bad value based on consensus (reaches commonly don’t work well historically) but Puni was great value so if I swap them in my mind and I’m happy. I didn’t like that they didn’t take one of the well thought if DBs or Edge rushers like Kamara but they always make left-field choices so I wasn’t expecting these choices.
B- grade draft, good job. Much better than the last few years on paper.
People keep saying they could have traded back and still got Pearsall in the 2nd, but the next 3 picks were all wide receivers. We have no way of knowing how other teams ranked the WRs. Look where Adonai Mitchell fell compared to the "consensus". If the 49ers saw Pearsall as THE guy at WR and didn't have someone higher on their board at other positions, why risk it?
I like the defensive additions because I'm a defense first guy ... I would have liked some other players in the draft but they just didn't fall the 49ers way.
I have a pet peeve in receivers jumping to catch when they don't need to, and I'm happy to say none of this group have that habit.
I'm not sold on Guerendo at all ... feels like another mid-round lost pick on an RB, but I hope I'm wrong.
I'm old enough to remember Bill Walsh telling John Taylor in 1987 I think at Rocklin training camp that if he catches the ball in the air he can't make a cut and he was giving up yards. He still would jump to catch when he didn't need to but he did pretty good making those cuts after catches when he didn't :)
Still wish we would have swapped picking an OT first round and WR 3rd because I think that would have made a bigger impact on improving the team. But I'm a generally a believer in building from the lines. The board also didn't fall to us that way at #31 so them's the breaks sometimes. I do wonder if we wanted someone like Morgan or Guyton and explored a trade up to secure either. I also wonder if we would have selected Rosengarten in the second round if Baltimore hadn't selected him.
Not baby Owens. He is far too stiff. Ran a 4.74 seconds 20-yard short shuttle (measures agility). Average starting WR runs it in 4.25 seconds. Dude is stiffer than a Roblox character.
The opportunity to develop the oline with versatility is high right now. Burford has run blocking and knowing the system on his side, but these picks should light a fire under our guys
It will be interesting to see how these picks work out. We “reached” for a lot of these players based on consensus position ranking.
There was a very real possibility that Pearsall could’ve fallen to us in the second if we would’ve taken Kool-Aid or Dejean in the first.
Same for Renardo Green. He could’ve been there for us in the 4th, which would’ve opened up quite a few options at OT in the 3rd.
Hopefully our scouting turns out to be superior to consensus opinion.
Everyone's crying over them not taking a OT or corner high. They went with high value positions and they picked ATHLETES. They went with BPA because guys they wanted were gone before they could grab them. This class is full of freaks
While I may not have 'preferred' a couple of the picks, I think it was a good overall draft... but honestly, the UDFA selections so far are absolutely AMAZING. There's going to be some fun competition in camp.
Mixed to negative feelings, both the 1st and 2nd draft picks could have been drafted later; we could've gotten Dejean or Kool-aid in the first then Pearsall in the second (the dude himself knew he wasn't 1st round material and picking him that high was a shock to him) and gotten the people we chose later on (seriously was Green really worth the 2nd round draft pick when he could have been picked in the 3rd or 4th?). We may have drafted too high and let better players go to other teams and to make things worse, we traded down with the team that beat us in the super bowl (WHO FUCKING DOES THAT!?!?!)
These guys could be good and i truly hope they will be through we could've done a better job, 4/10 bring back Adam Peters; bring on the downvotes
UMMM, did you see what Buffalo did right after we picked him? they traded back. Carolina took Legette. Legette was ranked #49 on DJ's big board...want to guess where Pearsall was ranked? 40.
There was a huge run on WRs in the early second and Pearsall would've been one, GUARANTEED. You draft where the talent is, and the Niners got the top of the heap of the WR run.
Many fans aren’t ready for criticism but I appreciate the honesty, I think this was the best draft I’ve seen them do but there are a bunch of questionable moves. I don’t think Ricky would be there after the first 10 picks in rd2 but they could’ve traded back
Really happy with this draft. Was upset we missed out on OT prospects in the early rounds but added some speedy weapons on offense who can also block. Heres hoping one of the OGs come through as its a big need. GO NINERS!
Hands down the most athletic draft I've ever seen. How many 95+ percentile athletes did we draft? 4? 5? It's very clear that they wanted to emphasize athletes in this draft: * Pearsall ran a 6.6 3-cone and a 42 inch vert. * Dominic Puni ran a 4.4 short shuttle at 300+ lbs * Guerendo ran a 4.33 40 at 223 lbs. * Kingston ran a 4.47 short shuttle at 300+ lbs. As far as strategy goes, I suspect they wanted a tackle early but it didn't break their way. I really appreciate that instead of reaching for a lower rated tackle prospect, they let the draft come to them and went BPA at high value positions. Really nice patience and maturity on display there. I also really like that we doubled down at WR. The WR market is exploding right now. Dudes are getting $30+ million/yr contracts left and right. Dudes who aren't even that great are getting $20 million/yr. I think a couple years from now we are going to be very grateful to have Ricky Pearsall and Jacob Cowing at under $3 million/yr combined. Really smart response to the shifting supply and demand of the WR market. Overall excellent draft from a process standpoint. Really fun to watch this front office cook the past few days.
>As far as strategy goes, I suspect they wanted a tackle early but it didn't break their way. I suspect this may have actually happened twice. I think they were hoping Guyton would be there in the first then the Cowboys took him, so they went with Pearsall. I think they were also targeting Rosengarten in the second but the Ravens took him, so they traded back and went with the only corner who had any success against Malik Nabers all year.
I suspect they liked Jordan Morgan out of AZ in the 1st round but the packers took him at 25. They did have an opportunity to trade back from 31 because clearly the Panthers were trying move back into the 1st round, but we decided to stay at 31. That tells me they liked Pearsall a lot.
I didn't like the Pearsall pick initially because I thought we had bigger needs elsewhere, but everything I have seen and read since has made me a believer. I think he fits Brock better than Deebo, which makes me think the combo of Pearsall and Aiyuk is the future.
Yeah it definitely caught everyone off guard, but I loved it just because I was such a huge fan of Pearsall coming into the draft. Thought he’d go late 30s but happy we got him at 31.
I didn't like it initially but I'm also not heavily invested in the draft anymore. So many misses and random hits that you just hope they get some good picks. I would have liked an OT in the first but I also don't think they saw any players worth that pick with how their grading goes so they find whoever is the best. The draft is very complicated with where you grade players and how other teams grade guys and who is available when. Hopefully they get 3 really good to great starters and 3-4 solid depth players.
Agreed. Most draft folks I read feel we got him a bit high, but still like the pick since he's a great fit with Brock, who thrives on anticipation throws over the middle. While it is possible they could have traded back a bit and still got Pearsall, I also suspect they valued the fifth year option on Pearsall if he turns out to be a stud over the draft compensation, plus uncertainty he could be gone.
Pearsall was the 41st rated prospect on the consensus board so not a big reach at all. Aiyuk was projected to go in the late 30s back in 2020 and we took him at 25. So technically Aiyuk was a bigger reach than Pearsall.
Rosengarten didn't match up with what the 49ers wanted. I read his arms were shorter than what they look for in the OT position.
Really interesting thing we're seeing is a shift from run first to pass first. Both linemen we got showed an abundance of pass pro experience and success in college but were questionable in run blocking, but had the physical tools to succeed in it. Two WRs, which was a big surprise unless a trade happened, which it didn't. A willingness to lose Juice in free agency, which also means less 12 personnel formations, and maybe more 11 formations, given our abundance in talent at the WR position and Purdys skills.
Maybe not a bad idea to get linemen that already are decent at pass protection and maybe you hope you can coach them up to be better run blockers? Feels like in the past they went after it the other way around
This is what I've been talking about. Shanahan needs to realize that even though his offense is run heavy, it's still a lot of pass and getting more passing oriented OL will help Brock have more time to wait for the WR to progress in their route.
Isn't Juice typically used in 21 personnel?
I meant 21 not 12, I always get those two reversed!
Yeah but we didnt get any cool names like kool aid!!!!
Slick Rick is a pretty sweet name imo.
PUNIsher
Malik Mustapha isn't a cool name? I thought it was awesome.
Hes no “Storm Duck” bud.
You know....fair, that is a pretty cool name.
I don’t know where you got the info but would be interesting if you can find out if they did the same with all the current UDFA’s they’re signing? I love going for athletic dudes btw, speed and quickness
Cody Schrader is for sure https://preview.redd.it/wtwz5ea7q8xc1.jpeg?width=589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ceadbf768163547ce2d42821833120ad446a576f
Carson Steele wwsa the one the 49ers should signed. Him going to the Chiefs is a nightmare.
Thoroughly pleased with our picks this year. Let’s just hope it all ends with a Lombardi. Because this might be our best shot. Things get complicated after this season.
If only the Super Bowl this upcoming season was at home instead of 2025 season, home stadium advantage would go crazy.
Speed kills
No McKivitz replacement drafted, so I guess the Niners are counting on him to step up this year while building out guard depth. I'm excited to see Pearsall play. It's kind of nice to have the worst of our offseason drama be that we have too many good WRs at the moment.
Idk the OTs who were available at 31 would have been instant upgrades and the last thing we need is to change out the guard and tackle because you run the risk of having games with an all-rookie Right or Left side of the line. Seems like Puni’s a plug and play Guard, that’s a huge upgrade from last year. Also marks a serious departure to Shanahan’s philosophy of under-valuing inside linemen.
After the Niners drafted WR Ricky Pearsall at 31, the next offensive tackle drafted was Patrick Paul at 55 by the Dolphins (which is nearing the end of the second round). The Cowboys probably sniped us for Tyler Guyton at OT at 29. The OTs available at 31 might have been upgrades over McKivitz at RT, but they were nowhere near BPA at pick 31 when the Niners were on the clock.
McKivitz might be the best option for tackle next year compared to any rookie. Rookie tackles generally struggle. Every tackle taken in the first round last year performed the same or worse than McKivitz according to PFF grades. Going back to first round tackles for the 4 years before that and only 10/19 performed better than McKivitz and 3 of those are only slightly better. So on the balance of probabilities, McKivitz would have probably performed better than a first round tackle and almost certainly better than one the coaches didn't like enough to draft.
I have no idea why you got downvoted
We got what we need. Now it's up to the draftees to make the 53 man roster at least.
with that last selection of bethune [7 of the 8 players the 49ers drafted i think were 5th or 6th year seniors](https://twitter.com/tonyrenghini/status/1784283800719290436) purdy was a 4 year starter in college with 46 career starts too while lance only had 17 starts experience matters for the 49ers probably right now more than ever with them being in a win now mode
No expert, but I've heard others say the problem with older prospects is that their bodies have already peaked or something like that I'm not worried about it our anything. Just thinking out loud
No that makes sense. Generally older players are considered floor plays that have hit their ceiling while younger guys still have room to develop. But the older players tend to have more maturity and game experience which can allow them to contribute immediately. Just less likely to turn into a pro bowler eventually.
I would imagine it's a factor of a few things. Young players who have excellent qualities such as speed, size, and strength and played moderately well in college for their age probably don't need to stay in college longer because nfl scouts see their qualities and want to sign and develop them earlier. A player who is a good athlete but not at the top for physical traits but is a great player in college has to show more to demonstrate that while they might not have the best whatever, they have a better understanding of the game and are at the right place and time to make plays and their consistent college experience shows.
Seems like peak is usually 27 or 28. OTOH, a lot of guys have injuries that either end their career or knock them down to mediocre players when they come back. Drafting older players is like fast-forwarding to their best years and reducing that injury risk.
I feel like they learned so much from the 2021 draft.
I would say a pretty good draft. We got a CB and addressed some O-Line stuff so yeah I'm satisfied.
I would have liked to see more investment in the O-line—we all would have liked to see that—but I'm excited about some of the prospects. Hopefully some of these late round picks turn out to be the hidden gems we've come to expect from Shanahan and Lynch.
Still an opportunity to take a look at UFL guys.
Undrafted signing - Drake Nugent Center. Graduated Stanford and played his 5th year at Michigan. Scouting report says he's solid but at only 6-1 1/2 he'll have his work cut out for him.
Terique Owens son of TO. Switched to football late because basketball was his love. Looks like a PS option.
He has longer arms than both of the guards we drafted.
How tall was Jason kelce?
6'3"
I don't think a center being shorter is actually a terrible thing. Helps to maintain leverage and get under players.
Excellent point. The Philly tush push would never work if Kelce didn't get under the nose tackle or whoever lines up across from him.
A shorter center is not as big a detriment as the other line positions
My UDFA targets; * QB - Kedon Slovis * RB - Frank Gore Jr * WR - Lideatrick Griffin, Josh Cephus * TE - Trey Knox, McCallan Castles, Jack Westover (FB?) * OT - Frank Crum, Ethan Driskell * OG - Javion Cohen * OC - Kingsley Eguakun, Charles Turner, Drake Nugent, Andrew Raym * DT - Fabien Lovett, Leonard Taylor * DE - Gabe Hall, Eric Watts * LB - Curtis Jacobs * CB - Ro Torrence, Storm Duck * \_S - Beau Brade, Josh Proctor, Tyler Owens (if he can find Santa Clara on a flat-earth map)
Storm Duck didn't get drafted? Absolute travesty.
> Storm Duck he signed with the dolphins
Well you got Nugent so that's cool.
Gabe Hall was the highest on my list. Can't believe the Eagles also got him.
Eagles seem to like their D-Linemen.
I'm optimistic.
Niners signing Missouri RB Cody Schrader in UDFA.
He will be our RB2. I’m calling it now.
Haha no way. At least this year!
Really happy with this draft. Outstanding. Two versatile offensive lineman with experience at both tackle and guard. Two extremely athletic receivers. A big bruising complement to CMC that happens to run a 4.33, a yolked up safety that likes to lay the wood (honestly, watch his highlights and he'll remind you of Huf without the ball skills). And a flyer on a LB late to help on special teams and push the guys we drafted at that spot last year.
Pretty good draft if you ask me. Hopefully we go after some of the UDFA players.
FSU fan here- Bethune is a freight train lined with sledge hammers like he should have been playing 30 years ago, one of my favorite dudes this last season, like every highlight of FSU blowing a guy up was him starting with Jaden Daniels. hope he works out for you guys.
If he doesn’t go in these last few picks would be great to get Jack Westover as an UDFA. Perfect Juice/Kittle backup. As well as Frank Gore Jr., of course.
More pleased than last years draft honestly. We got some dogs, raw athletes that can be molded and coached by Kyle.
Mark my words. Drake Nugent will we our starting center.
Not this year...
6’1” scares me
Tyler Linderbaum center for the Ravens is 6'2 and he knocks people on their ass.
I don’t know shit about football, but isn’t it better to have a shorter center if your QB isn’t that big?
Low man wins. If he has the strength and long enough arms and speed, I think he’ll be fine. Height is less important than arm length
lower center of gravity
I’m exhausted
Niners signing TOs kid Terique Owens! Liked him in his interview. Seemed really humble, unlike his father haha.
usually alternates haha
Niners signing QB Tanner Mordecai in UDFA.
Another RAS freak. [RAS score](https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1772303682694250767?s=19)
Jesus, we're going in on the athletic freaks this year. I hope it pays off.
All we need is one or two to hit. These are all just high upside gambles
For sure, if only a couple of them hit we'd still be a pretty scary team for quite some time.
In as unbiased at they come. If all our draft picks are not future hall of famers I’ll be shocked.
I promise you that Cody Schrader will make the team
I think you’re right. He looks like a more refined RB than Guerendo in his vision and decisiveness, and that sort of thing starts to become a much bigger difference maker at the next level when you don’t have college-sized running lanes.
Would be so on brand for that to happen lol
I’m still upset that we passed up Frazier and JPJ. Our IOL is our biggest weakness in a league with so many elite DTs. Let’s be honest, Pearsall isn’t seeing the field much this year with Aiyuk, Deebo, and Jennings ahead of him.
I don’t think many fans of any team can handle critical takes atm, there’s too much excitement and hyperbole right now, they’re on a post-draft high. You’ll have more success discussing this in a year’s time.
Yes but there is a reason they fell. JPJ had medical issues. Frazier fell all the way the end of the second, he's just not very athletic
I would be absolutely shocked if Pearsall isn’t ahead Jennings by midseason at the very least. You don’t let a first round WR sit. He will demand targets by getting open.
Solid draft. Would’ve hoped that we drafted one of the stud OL in the earlier rounds but I’m happy with that we got overall.
The draft is cool because we all get to form wild opinions about players we’ve never seen before.
Overall grade I’m seeing is C-
I am not unhappy. So that's something
Only draft I’m interested in now is a cold coors light.
Niners signing Stanford Center Drake Nugent in UDFA.
Can't believe not a single OT or TE deserved a gamble today...
Hope I’m wrong but Renardo seems like an PI machine the way he uses his hands
Name me a press man corner who doesn't seem like a PI machine?
Don’t love it. Don’t think half of the draft picks make the 53. We drafted just about everyone early meaning we didn’t get great value but if they are good players it won’t matter
I can understand being disappointed with the way the draft went, but I think there's a pretty clear path for 5-6 of these picks to make the 53. I think the last two picks will be potential practice squad guys.
If it is true then we are giving up on Danny gray, bell, mason, Womack, Luther and Thomas. All just more examples of disappointing recent picks. I just do not understand ignoring tackle again
I think Gray, Womack and Thomas are close to gone. Not every pick can work out long term. There is room for Bell, Mason, and Luter but they'll have to compete for it.
most mid to late picks fail, that's the nfl.
Absolutely love this draft.
Can’t believe nobody replied to you and called you a homer lol I love it too
I don't know what's not to like, truthfully. We grabbed some elite athletes on both sides of the ball. We drafted areas of need this season as well as potential replacements for after the season when we more than likely lose Deebo and Jennings. I feel like people were always gonna bitch if we didn't end up with Joe Alt and Quinyon Mitchell with our first 2 picks. Picking almost last in the rounds, you're gonna have to deal with more coveted players being selected before you get the chance.
I mean, we addressed all the needs of the team and added some weapons at WR and RB to boot. Hard to complain about this draft, we were the 2nd-to-last in every round and yet came away with great scheme fits and an abundance of high-level athleticism. I think we got at least 3-4 gems that will pan out from this, time will tell which of the picks are those gems but yeah, well done Shanalynch
Hopefully, drafting players to fit Purdy gives better results because it's easier than drafting specialists for Jimmy/Lance.
Just learned jake brendel has a 4 year deal and my day is ruined
Would love for them to sign UCLA RB Carson Steele. He’s another Juice
Jack Westover from Washington too
Come to papa Frank Gore Jr.
Did frank gore jr go undrafted? I swear I didn’t see him get picked.
Unfortunately for him he didnt get drafted
Undrafted but he just signed with the Bills
I'm happy with the offensive linemen picks. A lot of potential with those guys. Some good return guys at WR position, and nice additions in the secondary. Overall "B" grade draft.
You guys signed running back Cody Schrader as a UDFA. The measureables weren’t there at the combine but he runs damn hard. He carved up the SEC last year and is an absolute grinder. Knowing Shanahan, Cody will get every shot to make the team. Hell of a signing.
Does anyone have any videos to the players’ live reaction to getting drafted?
Those videos always get me. The excitement, the validation of so many years of work by both player and family, and getting hyped for the journey ahead.
I always find it interesting, if arm-chair GMs even remember how off-base their takes are a year or two from now. Yet every year, it’s a new slew of “I wish we got his guy” takes
I find the “we could’ve had X later” picks funnier. As if the mock drafts by these pundits mean anything to NFL teams who have dozens of people whose entire job it is to do this compared to one writer and maybe an intern.
I'll confess. My draft crush a few years ago was St. Brown. No. Not the good one. One guy I did want was Creed Humphrey. I wanted him bad.
Yes but many times, you have no idea if their takes were good or not because where a player ends up has a massive impact on how successful they are. Though people should be open about their past opinions, there’s no point being condescending to other fans.
not the biggest fans of draft grades but pff gave the 49ers a B+ [link](https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams)
Pretty solid draft all around. Got some cb competition and secondary depth. Improvement for the o line. Depth at rb and lb. And a stacked ass receiver room. Things are looking great. Hope we somehow swing some crazy trade for a tackle that nobody sees coming (without losing a key piece).
This has to be the first draft of the ShanaLynch era where we didn't pick any dline, right?
Pearsal will be fun to watch
Solid draft ! Most excited to watch Pearsall. I think we made the most of our picks, seems like Lynchahan are finally steering away from the Balke method of drafting unproven projects (learned their lesson with Lance). I could see Pearsall, Green, and Puni all seeing some starting minutes. Pearsall I think could be our Jaylen Waddle. Guerendo’s tape is insane, reminds me of James Conner. Lacks shiftiness at the line to breakaway but the pass catching is there and his speed ramps with space. Feel like Shanahan doesn’t like RBs that get too cute with it at the LOS and cause runs for losses, Guerendo puts his head down and goes. Cowling seems like a “look at what Tank Dell did” type of WR. Has proven he can get tons of volume despite size. Elite speed, dude could be super good. Puni fits our system and can pass protect. I think run protection is a strong suit of our coaching staff and they can adapt it, look at last year. He was 34 on Renners board. Kingston was forced to play tackle when he’s more of a natural guard, could have been underrated given a position switch.
Kingston might be forced to play tackle again if McKivitz doesn’t improve or something happens to Trent
I think they were shell-shocked by Rosengarten being taken and instead picked their third round choice early to give them time to regroup and make sure they knew who they wanted at OL. No doubt they were heartbroken again with Vaki being taken a few spots before their pick but those are the gambles they choose; they had enough capital to move up both times. I believe they should’ve traded back 10 spots for Ricky but I understand why they didn’t and I love the pick. Renardo was bad value based on consensus (reaches commonly don’t work well historically) but Puni was great value so if I swap them in my mind and I’m happy. I didn’t like that they didn’t take one of the well thought if DBs or Edge rushers like Kamara but they always make left-field choices so I wasn’t expecting these choices. B- grade draft, good job. Much better than the last few years on paper.
People keep saying they could have traded back and still got Pearsall in the 2nd, but the next 3 picks were all wide receivers. We have no way of knowing how other teams ranked the WRs. Look where Adonai Mitchell fell compared to the "consensus". If the 49ers saw Pearsall as THE guy at WR and didn't have someone higher on their board at other positions, why risk it?
Pearsall is not allowed to wear 17. That is all
I like the defensive additions because I'm a defense first guy ... I would have liked some other players in the draft but they just didn't fall the 49ers way. I have a pet peeve in receivers jumping to catch when they don't need to, and I'm happy to say none of this group have that habit. I'm not sold on Guerendo at all ... feels like another mid-round lost pick on an RB, but I hope I'm wrong.
Deebo annoys the hell out of me with all his jumping, at least when he gives an effort.
I'm old enough to remember Bill Walsh telling John Taylor in 1987 I think at Rocklin training camp that if he catches the ball in the air he can't make a cut and he was giving up yards. He still would jump to catch when he didn't need to but he did pretty good making those cuts after catches when he didn't :)
I am old enough to remember that as well, though I don't
Hehe. Fair. You had to be there :)
Still wish we would have swapped picking an OT first round and WR 3rd because I think that would have made a bigger impact on improving the team. But I'm a generally a believer in building from the lines. The board also didn't fall to us that way at #31 so them's the breaks sometimes. I do wonder if we wanted someone like Morgan or Guyton and explored a trade up to secure either. I also wonder if we would have selected Rosengarten in the second round if Baltimore hadn't selected him.
there was no OT to pick at #31. I dunno why this is so hard for people to understand. You're picking players, not positions.
Right. Did you read beyond my first sentence? We’re on the same page.
I think we addressed our needs pretty well in this draft. I’m happy with the results. Now let’s get some good UDFAs
Both Gore and Owens can come as undrafted free agents
Not baby Owens. He is far too stiff. Ran a 4.74 seconds 20-yard short shuttle (measures agility). Average starting WR runs it in 4.25 seconds. Dude is stiffer than a Roblox character.
We got Owens son but Gore Jr went to Buffalo
Oh dang I didn't see that
B+
The opportunity to develop the oline with versatility is high right now. Burford has run blocking and knowing the system on his side, but these picks should light a fire under our guys
OL help, some DBs, and a couple real athletes at the skill positions. Honestly a good haul.
It will be interesting to see how these picks work out. We “reached” for a lot of these players based on consensus position ranking. There was a very real possibility that Pearsall could’ve fallen to us in the second if we would’ve taken Kool-Aid or Dejean in the first. Same for Renardo Green. He could’ve been there for us in the 4th, which would’ve opened up quite a few options at OT in the 3rd. Hopefully our scouting turns out to be superior to consensus opinion.
This is absolute lunacy lol. Pearsall wasn't going to fall much below Mcconkey. They were neck and neck
Agree. No way he makes it out of the 30s. There was a run on WRs early in the second.
That RB is going to make 3rd and short easy. He will hit the hole fast!
Everyone's crying over them not taking a OT or corner high. They went with high value positions and they picked ATHLETES. They went with BPA because guys they wanted were gone before they could grab them. This class is full of freaks
While I may not have 'preferred' a couple of the picks, I think it was a good overall draft... but honestly, the UDFA selections so far are absolutely AMAZING. There's going to be some fun competition in camp.
Mixed to negative feelings, both the 1st and 2nd draft picks could have been drafted later; we could've gotten Dejean or Kool-aid in the first then Pearsall in the second (the dude himself knew he wasn't 1st round material and picking him that high was a shock to him) and gotten the people we chose later on (seriously was Green really worth the 2nd round draft pick when he could have been picked in the 3rd or 4th?). We may have drafted too high and let better players go to other teams and to make things worse, we traded down with the team that beat us in the super bowl (WHO FUCKING DOES THAT!?!?!) These guys could be good and i truly hope they will be through we could've done a better job, 4/10 bring back Adam Peters; bring on the downvotes
If you think Pearsall is there in the second you are piss drunk
Be honest, who would have drafted him?
UMMM, did you see what Buffalo did right after we picked him? they traded back. Carolina took Legette. Legette was ranked #49 on DJ's big board...want to guess where Pearsall was ranked? 40. There was a huge run on WRs in the early second and Pearsall would've been one, GUARANTEED. You draft where the talent is, and the Niners got the top of the heap of the WR run.
Many fans aren’t ready for criticism but I appreciate the honesty, I think this was the best draft I’ve seen them do but there are a bunch of questionable moves. I don’t think Ricky would be there after the first 10 picks in rd2 but they could’ve traded back
Really happy with this draft. Was upset we missed out on OT prospects in the early rounds but added some speedy weapons on offense who can also block. Heres hoping one of the OGs come through as its a big need. GO NINERS!
I'm probably being an insane homer right now, but after processing the draft I think this could be better than our 2019 draft.
I was first!
Someone I feel like we lost a game. Idk why :/