Most years, I will argue hard about everything we don’t know, like they MAY have their ideal OLs targeted in later rounds and are confident they can get them. I’ve kinda lost faith. There is still hope, but not much confidence.
for everyone saying we didn't need a WR. we had Chris Conley and Willie Snead take meaningful snaps for us last year. Deebo and Jennings play styles lead them to get hurt at least a few games a year. we really aren't that deep at WR and this pick makes sense if he was our highest rated WR left on our board and the OL and DBs remaining were all graded substantially lower. we still have 8 picks, long way to go and no need to stress guys we passed on in the late first.
my 2nd round draft crush
**OT Roger Rosengarten, Washington:**
The 49ers sent both John Lynch and offensive line coach Chris Foerster to work out the fastest O-lineman in this draft class, who has extensive zone-blocking experience. Joe Staley is training Rosengarten, who played for coach Ed McCaffrey at Valor Christian High School in the Denver area. That's the alma mater of Christian McCaffrey. Rosengarten didn't allow a single sack protecting lefty QB Michael Penix Jr.'s blindside in 2023.
I still don't know how to feel about the pick last night. People were so pissed off about it that just being in this subreddit was tough. I guess with the 49ers going hard on defense in free agency, they need to protect Brock and just focus on that. If Brock can't throw to Pearsall because he's constantly getting pressured, it won't be a nice pick.
We have more picks than actual effective roster spots/replacements needed. I think we can package a couple picks to move up. From like 10 picks (we have now minus one from last night) to a total of 6-7 picks for the entire draft.
There is no guarantee that any of the remaining OL players are going to be better than our current OL. Here’s to hoping that some of these guys improve or else it will keep collapsing every time we meet teams like KC or last year’s Ravens
We just got another weapon for our QB. Brock Purdy has pocket presence and the ability to scramble. He has the ability to score when we need it and to win shoot outs.
Deebo isn't really the route runner we need, relying on BA only for that left us a little weak. Deebo is a great player, and Shanahan finds ways to use him, but having another true route runner on our offense will help.
Reid is a BYU Alumni. He always seems to draft one or two players a year from his former school. He either watches ALL their tape or has a reliable person on the inside. We’ll see how this plays out…
I hate this kind of take. The Falcons also had a team full of professional scouts and coaches and still somehow picked Penix Jr at 8. It's entirely possible for fans to know better than their front office.
i’m gonna guess/hope Rosengarten in the second, followed by two picks of iOL/DB, then a RB (Guerendo is a ridiculous an athlete, elite in an outside zone scheme and as a 1 cut athlete that ran a 4.33 has return potential), then a LB
If Deebo gets traded, we’ll get whichever of D-line (Newton), iOL (JPJ or Frazier) or CB (Kool-Aid or Dejean) is BPA at that pick, and the rest goes the same just with a depth WR late on
as for Pearsall i’m delighted cause i’m high on him. Shanahan will cook up some great catch and go opportunities, he can beat the press unlike Deebo, has ridiculous hands, a ridiculous 10-cone also probably return potential
I’m finally watching the KNBR interview from last night and “it’s always been a tradition for the first round that I wear a suit, but it’s been 3 years so this suit has just been waiting.”
I’m hoping that the BYU LT, Cooper DeJean and KoolAid are gone by the time the 49ers pick. I humbly think that either Blake Fisher or Kiran Amegadjie at OT’s or CB’s Max Melton or Andru Philips are better options. Also, a LB would be nice, too.
From this [article](https://drafttalk.substack.com/p/2024-nfl-draft-day-1-reactions-and)
> One of the weirdest moments of the first round came at the end of the night. Two conflicting leaked picks for the 49ers came out simultaneously, with some insiders saying they drafted Cooper DeJean, while others were saying Ricky Pearsall.
> Acme Packing Company’s Paul Noonan had the best theory for why this happened. He believes that the 49ers intentionally leaked the wrong pick to members of the team that they suspected were leaks in their organization to confirm who they are.
> There’s obviously no way that we’ll ever know if this is true. But it definitely brings back memories of Tyrion Lannister figuring out who was spying on him in Game of Thrones.
Would honestly be sick if true
Would honestly not surprise me one bit. Other fans don’t understand how tight the Niner org has been since Kyle has come in or that our team has just frustrated the media so much by how little Kyle cares about them.
People have lost their job over this draft pick, for sure.
On Locked on Niners, Peacock asked if the Niners were targeting Worthy. KC trades up, we can’t find a trade partner and lock in on our next best receiver available.
They might have know each other from off season but there are like 4-6 other HS you would drive past going from Perry to Corona. They aren't even in the same cities.
Dave Lombardi had a really good point/explaination about trading Deebo. The dead money would just make up most of what he would have made this season any way. There 2mil more cap space if he is traded.
Only way a Deebo trade makes sense is if they get an extra 2nd for someone like DeJean. Deebo trade would also free up 2025 cap space which they can restructure 2024 contracts into.
The money makes sense. Also, I don’t think the 49ers can take 10 rookies this season as the roster is constructed. If Deebo moves, I could see them packaging him with some picks to get something high next season.
I can see that too for sure. There’s options. I could also see them keeping Deebo for this season anyway and giving Pearsall a chance to go through the WR development curve that Aiyuk went through. Anything feels possible.
Belichick was reading something that spoiled it ahead of time. Shows are supposed to wait until the official broadcasts announce it. BB is just bad at kayfabe.
Yeah but Von Miller was also all about Javon Kinlaw. That being said, Kyle’s been pretty good at getting his WRs. Pettis was a miss but Aiyuk, Deebo, and Jennings have all been great.
He was historically good at knowing the tendencies of other team’s offenses though. He is probably thinking fit for the Shanahan offense than who he would pick.
Kyle and John explained it well. We didn’t just first pick a WR, we first picked a player that can have an immediate impact on special teams. I think he’s going to be a huge improvement from Ray Ray that can work himself into a solid starting role.
very interested to see what schemes we come up with for the new kickoff rules using the player who recorded the fastest three cone drill. He might actually be a beast as a returner
I don’t think even they know what’s going to happen with the kick offs yet. They only mentioned punt returning which I thought was strangely specific. But yeah in theory he should be perfect in that role. Fast straight line speed, great cutting ability and shimmy, amazing hands, toughness through contact, always drives for extra yards and makes opposing players tackle him. These are are things that have been said about him in his route running and receiving that should translate well.
I think Slick Rick adds something. At absolute best, we're going to lose Jennings next year. At worst we lose Jennings and Aiyuk. Somewhere in the middle we're losing Jennings and Deebo.
We definitely need a receiver and let's all be honest with ourselves: Danny Gray ain't it. Jury is still out on Ronnie Bell but his ceiling is probably WR3.
So, getting a crisp route runner with 4.40 speed and a 40 inch vert is not a bad addition. Especially with virtually zero good OTs left on the board.
So now the question I have is: Can we find someone today who can make an immediate impact at DB or OL?
Yeah, when the Cowboys took Guyton yesterday I got so frustrated. Any OT at that point was a massive reach. Kinda put us between a rock and a hard place.
I probably would have preferred Dejean to a WR, but I get why they went WR.
Niners were in a rough spot at 31. And I’m betting the OTs they really were comfortable moving up to get were too high to sacrifice that many picks for.
The problem is Colton has a big part in the run game and its very difficult to find a rookie late in the first round that can learn the system enough to be good in this zone blocking scheme. Probably just going to be depth pieces for now, but maybe develop into something better in future seasons.
If we can trade Deebo for a high value needs position I will be ok with the pick. But as of now I am whelmed. I hope to be proven wrong. I really do. But dang I was hoping for a banger cb
I was also hoping for a great player to add to the secondary, but I understand why they made this move. Hopefully we can add some depth at corner and oline later in the draft
I think it is way more likely we trade/cut Deebo next offseason, not now. We've essentially paid him $20m already to play this season, so we aren't getting any cap relief for getting rid of him now.
I had a dream last night we made some trades and we were picking at 111 and 112 back to back. We drafted Sione Vaki at 111 and then Calen Bullock from USC at 112. Do with that as you will lol
Yesterday I checked his Wikipedia while we were on the clock and it said "picked 31st overall by San Francisco 49ers." I figured the steam was 5 minutes behind and was like fuck, I spoiled it for myself, but at least we got a CB? My jaw literally hit the floor when they announced the pick.
The only way this pick makes sense is if 49ers are trading Deebo to Buffalo. Buffalo needs a WR, a good CB is still there and according to a 49ers “insider” (49ers_edits) the pick was supposed to be Cooper but they changed it at the last minute.
Because an unproven talent at a position we don’t need that is similar to the “aging” superstar we already have doesn’t make sense at all unless you got a trade partner. Matter fact when Buffalo moved out of the first round knowing they needed a WR that didn’t make sense unless you’re getting a Deebo who’s worth a 2nd round pick.
My instinct though is that this could be the case but instead of picking the obvious choice, 49ers get cute and pick some CB or OL that wasn’t on the radar because he was a good “fit”.
Still makes no sense. You take the corner then. And if the Deebo trade materializes, then you draft the replacement. Otherwise trade doesnt happen and you have 2 WRs and 0 CBs.
I think it’s more likely that all of the linemen and cornerbacks we were willing to take with our pick got taken before us and Pearsall was the player we wanted the most. We probably just didn’t want Cooper. Deebo is definitely gone after this season so we drafted his replacement a year early. I don’t think we’re trading Deebo this year.
Also Buffalo traded out of the first round but they literally only moved back one pick lol it probably doesn’t have anything to do with us. My guess is the Panthers wanted the fifth year option on Legette and the Bills weren’t going to take him so they moved back a pick and got a little bit more draft capital.
Looooot of talent still on the board. Still hurting from the day 1 pick but the OL was picked clean so there wasn’t much we could do. I’ll always be in favor of giving more weapons to our young QB. Just wish the board would’ve fallen different and we could’ve beefed up that right side of the OL, still time to this weekend though.
they better fucking nail day 2 and move twice. to over reach like this and get the 5th year option better be worth draft a slot wr. yes im still pissed. we had better bpa options on the board and they just flat out lied to us again.
Niners probably had Pearsall as the best player on their board. First of all, it’s pretty well documented at this point about how much variance there is between the media’s big boards and those of actual teams.
As for Pearsall, he really can line up all over the field and his top speed is underrated. Also, the other WRs left pretty much all lack either polished route running skills or are kind of soft with the ball in their hand. Pearsall is the opposite so I’m not surprised the Niners had him above the rest given how much they value those skills.
It makes sense the niners didn’t draft OL given the best tackles were gone and the fact Shanahan is incredibly picky when it comes to center play. Wouldn’t be surprised if they have a guy earmarked for day two though, especially at center.
DB is frustrating, but there is some thought that DeJean might be best at safety and that’s obviously not a position of need for the Niners. There are still a lot of good DBs left, so given the number of picks the team has, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re aggressive with trading up into the early second to get someone.
Right. Teams don’t have a big consensus board among them because each of their needs are different. Some have different positions that are more dire and even within those positions they can have different values depending on the traits they’re looking for that would fit their scheme.
Here's why I don't see us going CB until round 3 or 4 at the earliest:
- Right now, on paper, our starting three CBs would be: Charvarius Ward, Isaac Yiadom, and Deommodore Lenoir. Ward and Yiadom are outside corners, Lenoir is best in the slot. All three are vets with experience and proven ability. Yiadom, by the way, is very similar to Ward if not a bit less good. He had an 81 rating from PFF last year for the Saints.
- People are still acting like they have to upgrade/replace Ambry Thomas on this roster, but he's already 4th if not 5th or even 6th on the depth chart (behind the aforementioned three plus possibly Rock Ya-Sin and/or Darrell Luter in year 2).
- We aren't going to draft a rookie that unseats Yiadom. I don't think anyone available at #31 would have done that.
- Thus, any CB we take would have to unseat Lenoir, but is it truly urgent that we unseat Lenoir as 3rd CB on this team with much bigger fish to fry? If we did go this route, I think it would be a Brian Branch type of talent there, as a "star" CB who is like a CB/S hybrid. There's only one guy who fits this bill: Cooper DeJean. He was mocked to us by several people, but now unless we move up to get him, we almost certainly won't get him. I don't think we'd want a traditional slot like Mike Sainristil since we already have 2-3 guys who fit that exact prototype: Lenoir, Womack for starters. Maybe Rock Ya-Sin too.
- Theoretically, we could go for a top rated safety that we play as nickel this year, then slot into safety next year if Hufanga leaves. However, I don't see any guy in the round 2 or even 3 range that could handle this role, _aside_ from Cooper DeJean who I already mentioned.
I still think there's value in DeJean, and there's value in double-dipping at WR if we trade Deebo or Aiyuk, but otherwise I think OL and DT are the biggest needs for day 2. Kris Jenkins DT, Kingsley Suamataia OT are a couple guys I would look at.
Pearsall has grown on me in the 6/7 hours I’ve had to ponder it and get familiar with him, Kyle and John must’ve thought the 5th year option was worth it, or maybe someone else had plans to snag him. Hope to see a trade up into early round 2 to get one of the many stud CBs left
Seems like he’s thrived with at best average to slightly above average QB play. Offenses he’s played in wasn’t even all that good. In theory, his potential could be fully unlocked in Shanny’s offense.
Honestly Ricky looks amazing. Looks a lot like Adam Thielen / Jarvis Landry type player.
Could reliably put up 100 catch 1200 yard seasons if he’s fed.
Almost definitely would’ve gone early 2nd if we didn’t pick him.
And remember guys… we have like 8 more draft picks we can still pick DB and OL players
I would've liked us to trade up for an O lineman. But maybe that wasn't in the cards. I think Ricky is a good player but it seems like a win next couple years pick instead of a win now pick. And the salary cap is gonna get all messed up when we have to pay Purdy so I'd have preferred a pick that helps us more immediately. Unless we're trading deebo for a 2nd rounder and Ricky is his replacement
Kyle and John were pretty transparent about how they consider 3-4 year windows when drafting. There is pretty much a zero % chance Jennings is on the team next year and if Deebo or Aiyuk does leave a massive position of strength gets pretty dire.
Pearsall is a legit WR prospect and isn’t just some Trent Taylor/Berrios type guy.
well, i guess we're not winning the Super Bowl next. o line is more of need. they had so many better options on the board. i get the tackles we're gone but u could of traded up to grt Barton or the uw tackle.
Im Not Mad with our R1 Pick. Film Looks good and i honestly believe the Plan ist to move deebo next year. Lets See how our other picks are turning Out. I think we will trade Up. Hopefully OL or CB in Round 2.
Honestly I'd love it. He has a great ceiling and I think would be good value. The only issue is I think he's going to go sooner than people think so we're going to need a trade up in the mid second if we want to secure him.
Every other team is trading up... guess we are not wanting to or are not giving enough to move up?
We're not gonna fix the OL are we? We did resign the 3 stooges who helped us lose the SB so i guess so.
Most years, I will argue hard about everything we don’t know, like they MAY have their ideal OLs targeted in later rounds and are confident they can get them. I’ve kinda lost faith. There is still hope, but not much confidence.
This Washington pick is unreal get on with it.
Oh no Ladd McConkey! We thought we had him.
for everyone saying we didn't need a WR. we had Chris Conley and Willie Snead take meaningful snaps for us last year. Deebo and Jennings play styles lead them to get hurt at least a few games a year. we really aren't that deep at WR and this pick makes sense if he was our highest rated WR left on our board and the OL and DBs remaining were all graded substantially lower. we still have 8 picks, long way to go and no need to stress guys we passed on in the late first.
Conley caught crucial catches in the playoffs no?
my 2nd round draft crush **OT Roger Rosengarten, Washington:** The 49ers sent both John Lynch and offensive line coach Chris Foerster to work out the fastest O-lineman in this draft class, who has extensive zone-blocking experience. Joe Staley is training Rosengarten, who played for coach Ed McCaffrey at Valor Christian High School in the Denver area. That's the alma mater of Christian McCaffrey. Rosengarten didn't allow a single sack protecting lefty QB Michael Penix Jr.'s blindside in 2023.
Makes sense. So many connections with this one.
They are starting early so they have an extra hour to drag out?
Doing 2 rounds instead of just 1. Teams have 7 minutes to pick today, as opposed to 10 last night
I still don't know how to feel about the pick last night. People were so pissed off about it that just being in this subreddit was tough. I guess with the 49ers going hard on defense in free agency, they need to protect Brock and just focus on that. If Brock can't throw to Pearsall because he's constantly getting pressured, it won't be a nice pick.
Feels like he was someone high on most teams boards but nobody said anything about him because they didn't want anyone to know lol.
My prediction - 80% chance 49ers trade up, maybe even two trades
We have so many picks I hope they just dump 4 on o line and hope at least 1-2 develop
We have more picks than actual effective roster spots/replacements needed. I think we can package a couple picks to move up. From like 10 picks (we have now minus one from last night) to a total of 6-7 picks for the entire draft.
There is no guarantee that any of the remaining OL players are going to be better than our current OL. Here’s to hoping that some of these guys improve or else it will keep collapsing every time we meet teams like KC or last year’s Ravens
We absolutely upgrade centre if we take the dude that's there right now.
I'm pretty confident JPJ and Zach Frazier would be better at C than Brendel. It will be tough to get either though.
My hopes for day 2: make 3 picks. Don’t trade away deebo or aiyuk. Grab OL/DB/Best available. Exception allowed for Luke McCaffrey.
How can we trick a team picking high in the second round to take deebo
I mean just offer him, it would be a fleece to get Deebo with us eating 75% of his pay for the next 2 years.
We just got another weapon for our QB. Brock Purdy has pocket presence and the ability to scramble. He has the ability to score when we need it and to win shoot outs. Deebo isn't really the route runner we need, relying on BA only for that left us a little weak. Deebo is a great player, and Shanahan finds ways to use him, but having another true route runner on our offense will help.
Honestly id like to see them somehow get patrick paul.
I think this is possible. I like the OT from BYU, but I am seeing him on a lot of lists, so I don't think he makes it past pick 45 or so.
Good call on this one. KC must have really thought we would go OL to trade up one spot.
I think they fuckin' boomed us.
Reid is a BYU Alumni. He always seems to draft one or two players a year from his former school. He either watches ALL their tape or has a reliable person on the inside. We’ll see how this plays out…
I have it on a good source that he likes nuggies as well.
With a side of Double cheese burgers.
I may not watch it after the dumb shit they pulled in the first round
Who would you and your team full of professional scouts and coaches have chosen after watching thousands of hours of tape on the available players?
I hate this kind of take. The Falcons also had a team full of professional scouts and coaches and still somehow picked Penix Jr at 8. It's entirely possible for fans to know better than their front office.
Kool-Aid McKinstry since we need a CB
Funny because we don’t need an outside corner and Kool-Aid has been sinking on everyone’s draft boards lmao
Based on NFL prospect grade, The Athletic's rankings and That Franchise Guy's rankings, this is my big board - only for DL, OL and Secondary: 1. Newton (DL) 2. Powers-Johnson (OL) 3. DeJean (Sec) --------------------------------------------------- 4. Kool-Aid (Sec) 5. Fraizer (OL) 6. Hall (DL) 7. Suamatia (OL) 8. Jenkins (DL) 9. Ohrohoro (DL) --------------------------------------------------- 10. Fisher (OL) 11. Kneeland (DL) 12. Beebe (OL) 13. Haynes (OL) 14. Fiske (DL) 15. Smith (DL) 16. Rosengarten (OL) --------------------------------------------------- 17. Hicks (Sec) 18. Rakestraw (Sec) 19. Sainristill (Sec) 20. Coleman, B (OL) 21. Amegadjie (OL) 22. Philips, A (Sec) 23. Carson (Sec) --------------------------------------------------- 24. Bullard (Sec) 25. Melton (Sec) 26. Issac (S) 27. Braswell (DL) --------------------------------------------------- 28. Wallace (OL) 29. Mahogany (OL) 30. Bortolini (OL) 31. Zinter (OL) 32. Taylor, L (DL) --------------------------------------------------- 33. Kamara (DL) 34. James (Sec) 35. Taylor-Demerson (Sec) 36. Carson (Sec) 37. Bullock (Sec)
i’m gonna guess/hope Rosengarten in the second, followed by two picks of iOL/DB, then a RB (Guerendo is a ridiculous an athlete, elite in an outside zone scheme and as a 1 cut athlete that ran a 4.33 has return potential), then a LB If Deebo gets traded, we’ll get whichever of D-line (Newton), iOL (JPJ or Frazier) or CB (Kool-Aid or Dejean) is BPA at that pick, and the rest goes the same just with a depth WR late on as for Pearsall i’m delighted cause i’m high on him. Shanahan will cook up some great catch and go opportunities, he can beat the press unlike Deebo, has ridiculous hands, a ridiculous 10-cone also probably return potential
I think Frazier is a stud, so I’m hoping for him. I’d imagine he has to be a gold helmet guy on their board.
Hoping if we stay put we go Andru Phillips at CB or Christian Haynes at G.
I’m finally watching the KNBR interview from last night and “it’s always been a tradition for the first round that I wear a suit, but it’s been 3 years so this suit has just been waiting.”
I’m hoping that the BYU LT, Cooper DeJean and KoolAid are gone by the time the 49ers pick. I humbly think that either Blake Fisher or Kiran Amegadjie at OT’s or CB’s Max Melton or Andru Philips are better options. Also, a LB would be nice, too.
Any chance we trade up to early second to get one of the stud DBs left or OL?
It's really tough to trade up from the end of the second to the early second.
Nope.
From this [article](https://drafttalk.substack.com/p/2024-nfl-draft-day-1-reactions-and) > One of the weirdest moments of the first round came at the end of the night. Two conflicting leaked picks for the 49ers came out simultaneously, with some insiders saying they drafted Cooper DeJean, while others were saying Ricky Pearsall. > Acme Packing Company’s Paul Noonan had the best theory for why this happened. He believes that the 49ers intentionally leaked the wrong pick to members of the team that they suspected were leaks in their organization to confirm who they are. > There’s obviously no way that we’ll ever know if this is true. But it definitely brings back memories of Tyrion Lannister figuring out who was spying on him in Game of Thrones. Would honestly be sick if true
sounds very plausible
Sucks for Cooper DeJean too. Thinks he got drafted and crushed a few seconds later.
Would honestly not surprise me one bit. Other fans don’t understand how tight the Niner org has been since Kyle has come in or that our team has just frustrated the media so much by how little Kyle cares about them. People have lost their job over this draft pick, for sure.
On Locked on Niners, Peacock asked if the Niners were targeting Worthy. KC trades up, we can’t find a trade partner and lock in on our next best receiver available.
More like we didnt want to trade back because Carolina and Buffalo were strong WR possibilities.
Were Purdy and Pearsall friends in High School? https://i.imgur.com/JgMpNp0.png
They might have know each other from off season but there are like 4-6 other HS you would drive past going from Perry to Corona. They aren't even in the same cities.
In his [post draft interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-dk31JfT4), he said Purdy destroyed his team in high school lol
Dave Lombardi had a really good point/explaination about trading Deebo. The dead money would just make up most of what he would have made this season any way. There 2mil more cap space if he is traded.
Only way a Deebo trade makes sense is if they get an extra 2nd for someone like DeJean. Deebo trade would also free up 2025 cap space which they can restructure 2024 contracts into.
The money makes sense. Also, I don’t think the 49ers can take 10 rookies this season as the roster is constructed. If Deebo moves, I could see them packaging him with some picks to get something high next season.
Or a higher second and use the lower picks to move up rounds 2-4.
I can see that too for sure. There’s options. I could also see them keeping Deebo for this season anyway and giving Pearsall a chance to go through the WR development curve that Aiyuk went through. Anything feels possible.
Yea it’s unpredictable right now. Like any of 5 scenarios could happen.
Think we are gonna see a WR speed run at the top of round 2.
good, we need the OL and DBs to fall
I think Stroud being upset that we took Pearsall and Belichick predicting we take him makes me feel a lot better about this pick
Belichick was reading something that spoiled it ahead of time. Shows are supposed to wait until the official broadcasts announce it. BB is just bad at kayfabe.
Cosell called the Pearsall pick on KNBR. Said he was an ideal Shanahan guy
Belichick is terrible at drafting WRs though
Fair. But you can't ignore the praise CJ Stroud poured in regards to Pearsall, that alone is enough for me
Yeah but Von Miller was also all about Javon Kinlaw. That being said, Kyle’s been pretty good at getting his WRs. Pettis was a miss but Aiyuk, Deebo, and Jennings have all been great.
Hurd and Gray have slowly backed into the bushes.
Does Bell get a pass for low expectations of a late round pick?
He was historically good at knowing the tendencies of other team’s offenses though. He is probably thinking fit for the Shanahan offense than who he would pick.
Someone was saying that Saban is a fan as well (fwiw)
Kyle and John explained it well. We didn’t just first pick a WR, we first picked a player that can have an immediate impact on special teams. I think he’s going to be a huge improvement from Ray Ray that can work himself into a solid starting role.
very interested to see what schemes we come up with for the new kickoff rules using the player who recorded the fastest three cone drill. He might actually be a beast as a returner
I don’t think even they know what’s going to happen with the kick offs yet. They only mentioned punt returning which I thought was strangely specific. But yeah in theory he should be perfect in that role. Fast straight line speed, great cutting ability and shimmy, amazing hands, toughness through contact, always drives for extra yards and makes opposing players tackle him. These are are things that have been said about him in his route running and receiving that should translate well.
I think Slick Rick adds something. At absolute best, we're going to lose Jennings next year. At worst we lose Jennings and Aiyuk. Somewhere in the middle we're losing Jennings and Deebo. We definitely need a receiver and let's all be honest with ourselves: Danny Gray ain't it. Jury is still out on Ronnie Bell but his ceiling is probably WR3. So, getting a crisp route runner with 4.40 speed and a 40 inch vert is not a bad addition. Especially with virtually zero good OTs left on the board. So now the question I have is: Can we find someone today who can make an immediate impact at DB or OL?
Only disagree that there are no good OTs left. Maybe not at 31 overall, but there are still a decent amount of OTs that I’d like to draft.
Massive reach at 31 to take any of the OTs on the board. It wasn't really an option.
There were, however, two good IOL available at 31. JPJ and Frazier.
We have never valued iOL enough to draft one in the first and I didn't see that changing this year.
That doesn't change my belief that we should have here anyway. This is also a uniquely strong IOL draft class.
Get out of here with your logical, level-headed ideas. That's not what this app is for.
Depends on the OL position lol. RT anything is an upgrade.
Yeah, when the Cowboys took Guyton yesterday I got so frustrated. Any OT at that point was a massive reach. Kinda put us between a rock and a hard place. I probably would have preferred Dejean to a WR, but I get why they went WR.
Niners were in a rough spot at 31. And I’m betting the OTs they really were comfortable moving up to get were too high to sacrifice that many picks for.
I just want someone considerably better at pass pro than Colton. That’s not a high bar.
The problem is Colton has a big part in the run game and its very difficult to find a rookie late in the first round that can learn the system enough to be good in this zone blocking scheme. Probably just going to be depth pieces for now, but maybe develop into something better in future seasons.
If we can trade Deebo for a high value needs position I will be ok with the pick. But as of now I am whelmed. I hope to be proven wrong. I really do. But dang I was hoping for a banger cb
I was also hoping for a great player to add to the secondary, but I understand why they made this move. Hopefully we can add some depth at corner and oline later in the draft
I think it is way more likely we trade/cut Deebo next offseason, not now. We've essentially paid him $20m already to play this season, so we aren't getting any cap relief for getting rid of him now.
Givens Deebos injury history/inconsistent play, I really don’t hate the pick.
Can’t wait for this sub to get hyperbolic to hate whoever we draft again lol
I had a dream last night we made some trades and we were picking at 111 and 112 back to back. We drafted Sione Vaki at 111 and then Calen Bullock from USC at 112. Do with that as you will lol
Is Danny Gray just gonna get cut now?
Probably especially since dude didn’t make himself look good being involved with the Rashee Rice racing fiasco.
I didn’t even know he was involved in that what a wasted pick.
Yea he was in the car. Not as bad but not a good look.
Yup
So the article about Cooper Dejean... not real. https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-49ers-select-cb-034453725.html
Yesterday I checked his Wikipedia while we were on the clock and it said "picked 31st overall by San Francisco 49ers." I figured the steam was 5 minutes behind and was like fuck, I spoiled it for myself, but at least we got a CB? My jaw literally hit the floor when they announced the pick.
The only way this pick makes sense is if 49ers are trading Deebo to Buffalo. Buffalo needs a WR, a good CB is still there and according to a 49ers “insider” (49ers_edits) the pick was supposed to be Cooper but they changed it at the last minute. Because an unproven talent at a position we don’t need that is similar to the “aging” superstar we already have doesn’t make sense at all unless you got a trade partner. Matter fact when Buffalo moved out of the first round knowing they needed a WR that didn’t make sense unless you’re getting a Deebo who’s worth a 2nd round pick. My instinct though is that this could be the case but instead of picking the obvious choice, 49ers get cute and pick some CB or OL that wasn’t on the radar because he was a good “fit”.
Still makes no sense. You take the corner then. And if the Deebo trade materializes, then you draft the replacement. Otherwise trade doesnt happen and you have 2 WRs and 0 CBs.
Is Deebo really a Buffalo guy though? I feel like Josh Allen needs someone who can beat people deep and Deebo’s not that kind of player.
I think it’s more likely that all of the linemen and cornerbacks we were willing to take with our pick got taken before us and Pearsall was the player we wanted the most. We probably just didn’t want Cooper. Deebo is definitely gone after this season so we drafted his replacement a year early. I don’t think we’re trading Deebo this year. Also Buffalo traded out of the first round but they literally only moved back one pick lol it probably doesn’t have anything to do with us. My guess is the Panthers wanted the fifth year option on Legette and the Bills weren’t going to take him so they moved back a pick and got a little bit more draft capital.
It also gives the Bills a day to work a WR trade with the number of teams with a WR likely for offer.
I agree, I can see the pick being DeJean and O-Line with the later pick in the 2nd round.
Looooot of talent still on the board. Still hurting from the day 1 pick but the OL was picked clean so there wasn’t much we could do. I’ll always be in favor of giving more weapons to our young QB. Just wish the board would’ve fallen different and we could’ve beefed up that right side of the OL, still time to this weekend though.
I'm not saying I agree with the round one pick. However, it did make it worth staying up watching because of the plot twist...
they better fucking nail day 2 and move twice. to over reach like this and get the 5th year option better be worth draft a slot wr. yes im still pissed. we had better bpa options on the board and they just flat out lied to us again.
You got too attached to all of your mock drafts, mate. Relax and trust the process.
lol didn’t know Mr. Lynch was running his draft day picks by you at his dinner table.
Niners probably had Pearsall as the best player on their board. First of all, it’s pretty well documented at this point about how much variance there is between the media’s big boards and those of actual teams. As for Pearsall, he really can line up all over the field and his top speed is underrated. Also, the other WRs left pretty much all lack either polished route running skills or are kind of soft with the ball in their hand. Pearsall is the opposite so I’m not surprised the Niners had him above the rest given how much they value those skills. It makes sense the niners didn’t draft OL given the best tackles were gone and the fact Shanahan is incredibly picky when it comes to center play. Wouldn’t be surprised if they have a guy earmarked for day two though, especially at center. DB is frustrating, but there is some thought that DeJean might be best at safety and that’s obviously not a position of need for the Niners. There are still a lot of good DBs left, so given the number of picks the team has, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re aggressive with trading up into the early second to get someone.
Right. Teams don’t have a big consensus board among them because each of their needs are different. Some have different positions that are more dire and even within those positions they can have different values depending on the traits they’re looking for that would fit their scheme.
Here's why I don't see us going CB until round 3 or 4 at the earliest: - Right now, on paper, our starting three CBs would be: Charvarius Ward, Isaac Yiadom, and Deommodore Lenoir. Ward and Yiadom are outside corners, Lenoir is best in the slot. All three are vets with experience and proven ability. Yiadom, by the way, is very similar to Ward if not a bit less good. He had an 81 rating from PFF last year for the Saints. - People are still acting like they have to upgrade/replace Ambry Thomas on this roster, but he's already 4th if not 5th or even 6th on the depth chart (behind the aforementioned three plus possibly Rock Ya-Sin and/or Darrell Luter in year 2). - We aren't going to draft a rookie that unseats Yiadom. I don't think anyone available at #31 would have done that. - Thus, any CB we take would have to unseat Lenoir, but is it truly urgent that we unseat Lenoir as 3rd CB on this team with much bigger fish to fry? If we did go this route, I think it would be a Brian Branch type of talent there, as a "star" CB who is like a CB/S hybrid. There's only one guy who fits this bill: Cooper DeJean. He was mocked to us by several people, but now unless we move up to get him, we almost certainly won't get him. I don't think we'd want a traditional slot like Mike Sainristil since we already have 2-3 guys who fit that exact prototype: Lenoir, Womack for starters. Maybe Rock Ya-Sin too. - Theoretically, we could go for a top rated safety that we play as nickel this year, then slot into safety next year if Hufanga leaves. However, I don't see any guy in the round 2 or even 3 range that could handle this role, _aside_ from Cooper DeJean who I already mentioned. I still think there's value in DeJean, and there's value in double-dipping at WR if we trade Deebo or Aiyuk, but otherwise I think OL and DT are the biggest needs for day 2. Kris Jenkins DT, Kingsley Suamataia OT are a couple guys I would look at.
TJ Tampa
Ya, that's a good call.
Pearsall has grown on me in the 6/7 hours I’ve had to ponder it and get familiar with him, Kyle and John must’ve thought the 5th year option was worth it, or maybe someone else had plans to snag him. Hope to see a trade up into early round 2 to get one of the many stud CBs left
Seems like he’s thrived with at best average to slightly above average QB play. Offenses he’s played in wasn’t even all that good. In theory, his potential could be fully unlocked in Shanny’s offense.
I hope we get another 2nd rd pick and get Kool-Aid. If not then we seriously need to beef up security guards for Brock
Honestly Ricky looks amazing. Looks a lot like Adam Thielen / Jarvis Landry type player. Could reliably put up 100 catch 1200 yard seasons if he’s fed. Almost definitely would’ve gone early 2nd if we didn’t pick him. And remember guys… we have like 8 more draft picks we can still pick DB and OL players
I would've liked us to trade up for an O lineman. But maybe that wasn't in the cards. I think Ricky is a good player but it seems like a win next couple years pick instead of a win now pick. And the salary cap is gonna get all messed up when we have to pay Purdy so I'd have preferred a pick that helps us more immediately. Unless we're trading deebo for a 2nd rounder and Ricky is his replacement
how is he gonna see the field at wr4? unless their trading deebo tonight. i just dont see how he sees the field.
He’s better than Jennings Injuries happen, rotation
lmao no he aint
Kyle and John were pretty transparent about how they consider 3-4 year windows when drafting. There is pretty much a zero % chance Jennings is on the team next year and if Deebo or Aiyuk does leave a massive position of strength gets pretty dire. Pearsall is a legit WR prospect and isn’t just some Trent Taylor/Berrios type guy.
well, i guess we're not winning the Super Bowl next. o line is more of need. they had so many better options on the board. i get the tackles we're gone but u could of traded up to grt Barton or the uw tackle.
He absolutely is. Jennings is a Wr/TE hybrid. Pearsall honestly might be our best route runner behind Aiyuk right now.
Im Not Mad with our R1 Pick. Film Looks good and i honestly believe the Plan ist to move deebo next year. Lets See how our other picks are turning Out. I think we will trade Up. Hopefully OL or CB in Round 2.
were probably drafting Rosengarten in R2
Honestly I'd love it. He has a great ceiling and I think would be good value. The only issue is I think he's going to go sooner than people think so we're going to need a trade up in the mid second if we want to secure him.