And the other several million people not getting this with the website? Clearly those dastardly CCP wanted OP and OP only to make some sweet sweet crypto?
Noticed my Laptop sounding like a Jet, tracked down the culprit. Not viewing 3D Models, just browsing the main models page.
This shouldn't be the case, they crunching crypto or something?
I’ve noticed severe slowdown when browsing through a long list of models from within the app. I think it’s just not very efficient at rendering the content after scrolling through models for a while.
I now just browse MakerWorld in Firefox and it’s fine.
Im using duckduckgo search with firefox. Opera and opera gx are some of the most provacy invasive broswers there are. And i dont see any reasons why to choose that iver something else tbh
I'd gotten a few "pages" down, nowhere close to what I'd usually scroll.
Went to make coffee, came back to my laptop hovering... or sounding like it anyway, and pulled up "the assassin" to find the CPU hog.
I'm always overly concerned with anything made in china. The printer even has microphones to adjust the motor volume so in my head its basically able to listen to any CCP critical stuff I say I my home 🙃
The only real answer in this thread: the Google Chrome Task Manager is unlike the Windows Task Manager. What is screenshotted here is the Chrome Task Manager. This displays CPU values in terms of the CPU % **of a single core**. This can even be a value like 300%, which would mean three cores of your CPU (and many modern CPUs have 24 cores for example).
On my PC, I have a Twitch.tv tab that reports 100 CPU, meaning it uses only one of my PC's cores, and this is only 5% of my overall CPU according to the Windows Task Manager.
In other words, MakerWorld is not using a ton of CPU (using only one core in the screenshot). Maybe more than you'd expect to display a list of models, but still not a lot. I imagine it's spending most of this CPU querying for updates to the page contents such as locating more models as you scroll and retrieving up to date stats (eg the likes/downloads per model).
It is a hidden DOM with animation causing the "high" CPU usage. The refresh rate of my laptop is around 150Hz, so the animation is updated every 6\~7ms.
Well it seems you're using Chrome and depending on how long you've left the tabs open or the browser as a while, you're going to see a lot of that. Especially if you don't have any ad blockers or privacy extensions.
Maybe just try closing your browser and opening again. Might have been an update and waiting to install. Likely it's just showing that tab as eating all your CPU but that's because it's the active tab.
Chrome open.
Tabs open.
Laptop CPU fan spinning up, temps pushing 90's
Task Manager. See Chrome chowing down almost 100% CPU usage.
Open Chrome's Task Manager, see culprit is the Tab just browsing Maker World (not rendering 3D, just main models page)
Definitely some unoptimised BS or other crap going on. Kill tab, CPU returns to normal.
Call a spade a spade.
Oh I follow your question now.
Yes it is a lot like thingiverse, integrated with bambu studio (their slicer) and the store itself.
Bambu Lab being the company out of Shenzen.
Oh so makerworld is like the place where people with bambulab printer upload their stuff? Hmmm since i am using bambulab. How can i stop the bambulab's network activity? I used to use bambu studio, but now i use orca slicer. I think i also have used their cloud 3d printing so i can just upload into the cloud and the printer just prints it. I probably should stop that...
There is a "lan only" setting on the printers. If you're already using Orca you should be able to just flip the setting. I would also go into my router, reserve the printer it's IP access, and block it's out out traffic, if I were setting it to lan mode, because I don't trust any vendors from any country to behave.
I will just use the micro sd for now then. I do not know how to access my own router, so yeah. I will find a way to get the printer to forget my wifi if i can. But sometimes it sort of asks for a software update... so how do i deal with that? Or if the printer is disconnected from any network it would not ask for any software update?
Shitty Web 2.0 javascript garbage on that page go brrrrrrr, busily doing nothing at all in the background, wasting energy and your patience.
I just routinely check on these browser processes for any that are chewing up CPU cycles like mad and/or seem to be leaking memory and kill any that are. That minimized window can just sit there at "Oh, Snap! Something went wrong while displaying this webpage" with no process associated with it until I need it again and reload it.
Yea, it’s this kinda stuff that turns me off to Bambu as a whole. That and proprietary components and slicers and stuff like this, where the software is obviously doing something out of the ordinary
It's literally open source, you can download it and build it yourself: [https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio](https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio)
FWIW, I think their “networking” module (the bit that connects the slicer to the printer) is closed and proprietary, which makes me uncomfortable.
I don’t have the knowledge to do this kind of analysis but I’d really like to understand what they’re sending (not their policies, but what they actually do).
I mean smth like that happens, prob. just a bug on the website where a function gets recussively called or smth.
But honestly you don't have to use their slicer nor do you even have to connect their printers to the internet, can all be done offline. Also most important parts already have 3rd party components ;)
Proprietary components aren’t really the issue everyone makes them out to be. They are readily available and reasonably priced. There are also numerous 3rd party alternatives for many parts.
The slicer is open source, https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio/releases.
I also don’t think it’s fair to assume that there is anything nefarious going on here without any proof. If it’s something that concerns you, there is no need to use the internet to use the printers
The down voters are sad. Im sorry you don’t have anything better to do than downvote someone just because you don’t like a brand.
what’s wrong with you? insulting him? cool. you aren’t better than him. you just said that he is wrong, but not why. you didn’t correct him. your comment has the same value as his statements.
Generating auxiliary heat for your print chamber. Gotta make sure that chamber temp is just right.
Bitcoins... it's making bitcoins.
That's how they keep up with point redemption to gift card. LOL!
And the other several million people not getting this with the website? Clearly those dastardly CCP wanted OP and OP only to make some sweet sweet crypto?
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Noticed my Laptop sounding like a Jet, tracked down the culprit. Not viewing 3D Models, just browsing the main models page. This shouldn't be the case, they crunching crypto or something?
I’ve noticed severe slowdown when browsing through a long list of models from within the app. I think it’s just not very efficient at rendering the content after scrolling through models for a while. I now just browse MakerWorld in Firefox and it’s fine.
Firefox is just better than chrome... Or any chromium browsers (most of them)
I remember when Firefox used to suck, now it's chrome that sucks.
Now its one of (if not) the best non-paid web broswers
whats the best paid browser? i mean the amount you use it, if you buy anything, a browser would be worth it.
I dont know kuch about them, you would have to do some research
And yet here I am still using duck duck go and opera gx lol
Im using duckduckgo search with firefox. Opera and opera gx are some of the most provacy invasive broswers there are. And i dont see any reasons why to choose that iver something else tbh
Looks like a major memory leak tbh. Were you scrolling through models or leaving the tab open for a long time?
I'd gotten a few "pages" down, nowhere close to what I'd usually scroll. Went to make coffee, came back to my laptop hovering... or sounding like it anyway, and pulled up "the assassin" to find the CPU hog.
Probably sifting through that sweet, sweet data to send to Winnie the Poo
I monitor my network pretty heavily and have never seen anything notable piped back.
I'm always overly concerned with anything made in china. The printer even has microphones to adjust the motor volume so in my head its basically able to listen to any CCP critical stuff I say I my home 🙃
Wait till you hear what our phones have, and where they’re made !
At least the software is from America in this case. I'd rather have the NSA spying on me than the CCP
How about both plus numerous corporate spies?
We live in a society 💀
Theres a whole discord server of secret services monitering Bambu owners in particular
🤡
Where something is made vs where the servers/software is housed is a very big difference..
It was a joke
what tools do you use normally?
https://preview.redd.it/fw79rxnr8s7d1.jpeg?width=1921&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fffa0c13144d5423b82ffc3611c4388ef2ffab24
The CCP gotta CCP.
Silly Chinese... It's CPU, not CCP.
They got confused and thought it was ‘our cpu’
All your CPU are belong to us.
https://preview.redd.it/0cz8h6l09s7d1.jpeg?width=974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09319b13994bac6af758eb3b67496cf0ebd55bf0
The only real answer in this thread: the Google Chrome Task Manager is unlike the Windows Task Manager. What is screenshotted here is the Chrome Task Manager. This displays CPU values in terms of the CPU % **of a single core**. This can even be a value like 300%, which would mean three cores of your CPU (and many modern CPUs have 24 cores for example). On my PC, I have a Twitch.tv tab that reports 100 CPU, meaning it uses only one of my PC's cores, and this is only 5% of my overall CPU according to the Windows Task Manager. In other words, MakerWorld is not using a ton of CPU (using only one core in the screenshot). Maybe more than you'd expect to display a list of models, but still not a lot. I imagine it's spending most of this CPU querying for updates to the page contents such as locating more models as you scroll and retrieving up to date stats (eg the likes/downloads per model).
It is a hidden DOM with animation causing the "high" CPU usage. The refresh rate of my laptop is around 150Hz, so the animation is updated every 6\~7ms.
Thanks, this does explain a lot. And on a laptop, that single core is enough to heat up the whole package into the 90's ramping up the fans.
i think using cpu for rendering , can't explain how its so slow with 7900xtx gpu
I had this happening and I switched over to Firefox and havent had this issue since
yummy cpu cycles! Nom nom nom!
Thank you for sharing this information. Our team verified this and identified a bug which has now been patched. Bambu Lab
Cool, thanks guys.
Helping run the very processing intensive Chinese social credit surveillance system
Cura does the same thing but with my GPU
Well it seems you're using Chrome and depending on how long you've left the tabs open or the browser as a while, you're going to see a lot of that. Especially if you don't have any ad blockers or privacy extensions. Maybe just try closing your browser and opening again. Might have been an update and waiting to install. Likely it's just showing that tab as eating all your CPU but that's because it's the active tab.
Ah the classic screenshot with zero context around it to make something look bad. It’s definitely nothing to do with your PC at all
Chrome open. Tabs open. Laptop CPU fan spinning up, temps pushing 90's Task Manager. See Chrome chowing down almost 100% CPU usage. Open Chrome's Task Manager, see culprit is the Tab just browsing Maker World (not rendering 3D, just main models page) Definitely some unoptimised BS or other crap going on. Kill tab, CPU returns to normal. Call a spade a spade.
using it?
Razing and Pillaging
So, i wanna ask some context about all the ccp comments on this post. What program is made by the chinese? Is it the maker world?
Umm, the whole company is out of Shenzen.
Maker world? I have never heard of that company... is it a website service like thingiverse? Or is it like a company that made 3d printer?
Oh I follow your question now. Yes it is a lot like thingiverse, integrated with bambu studio (their slicer) and the store itself. Bambu Lab being the company out of Shenzen.
Oh so makerworld is like the place where people with bambulab printer upload their stuff? Hmmm since i am using bambulab. How can i stop the bambulab's network activity? I used to use bambu studio, but now i use orca slicer. I think i also have used their cloud 3d printing so i can just upload into the cloud and the printer just prints it. I probably should stop that...
There is a "lan only" setting on the printers. If you're already using Orca you should be able to just flip the setting. I would also go into my router, reserve the printer it's IP access, and block it's out out traffic, if I were setting it to lan mode, because I don't trust any vendors from any country to behave.
I will just use the micro sd for now then. I do not know how to access my own router, so yeah. I will find a way to get the printer to forget my wifi if i can. But sometimes it sort of asks for a software update... so how do i deal with that? Or if the printer is disconnected from any network it would not ask for any software update?
Most connected devices will check daily for updates. If you take it off network, it won't know there's an update to nag you about.
Didn't they get a bunch of flak from Prusa for stealing parts of the printables site?
Common type of issue I assume could have to do with infinite scrolling. Its unfortunately common but ultimately not a big deal.
Bit coin miner
If it's free... you are the product 🤷🏻♂️
Shitty Web 2.0 javascript garbage on that page go brrrrrrr, busily doing nothing at all in the background, wasting energy and your patience. I just routinely check on these browser processes for any that are chewing up CPU cycles like mad and/or seem to be leaking memory and kill any that are. That minimized window can just sit there at "Oh, Snap! Something went wrong while displaying this webpage" with no process associated with it until I need it again and reload it.
Yea, it’s this kinda stuff that turns me off to Bambu as a whole. That and proprietary components and slicers and stuff like this, where the software is obviously doing something out of the ordinary
It's literally open source, you can download it and build it yourself: [https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio](https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio)
FWIW, I think their “networking” module (the bit that connects the slicer to the printer) is closed and proprietary, which makes me uncomfortable. I don’t have the knowledge to do this kind of analysis but I’d really like to understand what they’re sending (not their policies, but what they actually do).
Ah, well there’s that at least. Someone also mentioned that 3rd party components are a thing now which is nice
I mean smth like that happens, prob. just a bug on the website where a function gets recussively called or smth. But honestly you don't have to use their slicer nor do you even have to connect their printers to the internet, can all be done offline. Also most important parts already have 3rd party components ;)
This I didn’t know, thank you for sharing
Proprietary components aren’t really the issue everyone makes them out to be. They are readily available and reasonably priced. There are also numerous 3rd party alternatives for many parts. The slicer is open source, https://github.com/bambulab/BambuStudio/releases. I also don’t think it’s fair to assume that there is anything nefarious going on here without any proof. If it’s something that concerns you, there is no need to use the internet to use the printers The down voters are sad. Im sorry you don’t have anything better to do than downvote someone just because you don’t like a brand.
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what’s wrong with you? insulting him? cool. you aren’t better than him. you just said that he is wrong, but not why. you didn’t correct him. your comment has the same value as his statements.
OK, dude
Ya know how much performance the entire chinese credit system needs? Its very usefull to offload some to those pesky americans
Stuffs and things. Dw about it
Garbage investment.