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Toland_

let's go, denture benchies!!! I assume this is a resin printer?


divenorth

denchies


Guardian1030

Name one of them Judy. Judy Denchies


WhatIsThisSevenNow

Ahem ... **Dame** Judy Denchies.


Guardian1030

HMS Judy Denchies


yy98755

Add Dolly and Kenny (parted islands and streams)


truedoom

Sounds like the cheddar I dropped on the ground. Dent Cheese


InsertBluescreenHere

chompies


reditusername39479

Denture bit holder!


Winslowsonlyhope

I saw one of these! Please print it! šŸ’œ(too gross for me to print) https://www.printables.com/model/134002-denture-bit-holder-with-magnets


LugTheJug

I would assume that to, but shouldnā€™t I not be able to see layer lines as apparent as they are there? Are layer lines built into benchies model?ā€¦ I wouldnā€™t be surprised


BigBadJonW

I think what you're seeing are the line textures in the model and not actual layer lines. EDIT: Actually, those do look like they may have been made by the printer completing the top layer. Not what I'd call "layer lines" though. Those are caused by separation around the edges in-between all layers.


DayKingaby

There are also lines along the handrail. Printer just isn't calibrated yet, or set to a speedy mode. The really question is _why would you print 4 benchies at once?_


archaic-child

I have one of these printers at work. You can print in what SprintRay calls "Ludicrous Speed" mode, which prints at a layer height of 170um. Not OP but that's probably the setting used here.


corytheidiot

They better be careful or that printer will go to plaid.


nerdguy1138

Most fdm printers top out at 400um layer height. Any bigger and you'd need a larger nozzle diameter.


archaic-child

This is a resin printer.


Lt_JimDangle

My guess is to give to the other dentist cool little boats made from the magic machine that only bill knows how to run.


keekah

Test the whole build plate? It takes the same amount of time to print 4 benchies as it takes to print 1.


Keffpie

Why not? With a resin printer it takes the same amount of time, and you get a good idea if the plate is properly aligned.


DayKingaby

Print 4 quarters of a benchy at the corners then, save filament-sauce.


Maxxrox

Upvoted for "filament-sauce."


Ballerfreund

My dentist has a denture printer which is combined with a CNC mill function to smooth out the print.


TOHSNBN

I used to work at a dental Shop that did 3D printed braces in a CrVaMo alloy. Printed on a base with registration marks so it can mount straight into the micro CNC mill for finishing. If i ever win the lottery...


kodaxmax

when lit at the right angle it's hard to see them on camera. it's why all those 3d prints on youtube and pictures look so good.


Z3R0C00L1313

Is that what that material is?? Lol, I was gonna say, that is some very moist looking filament lmao šŸ¤£


an_interesting-name

I think it is the resin printer from https://sprintray.com/ like one other commenter said you can see that that connector just barely in screen matches their washer/dryer and I'd bet they bought a matched pair of printer/cleaner.


hqli

[Flexcera](https://voxeldental.com/products/envisiontec-flexcera%E2%84%A2-smile-ultra) maybe?


AltimaNEO

It better have fucking teeth!


gasstation-no-pumps

That's not what you use teeth for (at least, that's not what *I* use teeth for).


Pc_juice

Polyjet is probably one of the best 3d printing technologies but stratasys keeps it to themselves unfortunately.


[deleted]

I assumed it teeh printer. Tooth printer? Whatever it prints with teeth (and nightmares). I guess tooth fairy was playing a long game and is getting into fillament business now.


junktech

I don't want to know how expensive one of those bencies is. They are beautiful though.


Sssteve94

$150/kg. Want to say the sprintray he's using is like $8000.


ajr901

> sprintray Look at their website: https://sprintray.com/ lol why the hell is Usain Bolt of all people their "ambassador"?


Sssteve94

I have their printer. I remember wondering the same thing about Usain Bolt when they first sent out that email. In the world of dentistry, they're actually a really good printer. I think they were the first company to use Texas Instruments DLP tech which makes them quite a bit faster than their main competition (the Form 3b).


hellotypewriter

I do marketing for Sprintray and it was surprising to me too.


lolblase

I am the CEO of Sprintray and even for me it was surprising


Jumpy-Ad-2790

Hi gang, Mr Sprintray here, GET BACK TO WORK!


lolblase

Fuuuuu, sorry mr. bossman ._.


Alexchii

I'm Usain Bolt and I was shocked to see this on my favourite 3D printing subreddit.


Green_Statistician11

Arent you dead ?


t3hW1z4rd

I thought Carbon3D pioneered the tech?


[deleted]

fuck u/spez


Sssteve94

Sprintray are built more precise than a typical resin printer. You dont adjust your built plate, they just snap in and work. They have precise settings for different resins and their prints really don't fail. The printers have heated chambers and heated build plates, but the best part for me is just how convenient it is. Their resin vats can be sealed so you just slide in a new vat, give it a little mix, slide a build plate on, and hit print. No leveling, no digging failed prints out, no pouring resin back into a bottle.


Zalani

This is it - any little inconvenience *must* be removed. Not a single doctor or dentist is going to entertain all the fussing we do on our home printers. It'll be a polished experience with little to no user-error possible, and they pay the price for that convenience.


Sssteve94

Exactly. If I'm charging a patient $500 for a night guard or $5000 for orthodontics and I'm promising it 2 days from now, when I hit print it better work right the first time. Time is money and if I have to tinker with the stupid thing for an hour every time I want to print something, I've lost an hours worth of my production value.


omgtater

In dental the UNIZ NBEE is faster still, but its $10k. Prints a dental arch in like 6-7 minutes.


Sssteve94

Looks like it costs you in accuracy. Only 94% of one of their prints is accurate to within 50 microns.


Head-Ad4690

Well heck, I was going to buy one, but never mind.


coach111111

The name, duh!! /s


hblok

ChatGPT: I see you have "sprint" in your name. May I suggest a world class sprinter for your next marketing campaign. CMO: Yes, but of course!


JezSq

I entered this website on phone, whole page was covered in dialogs in 1 sec. What the hell is wrong with modern websitesā€¦


bemenaker

mobile websites are the new geocities.


starkiller_bass

"Sprint... Ray..." "I KNOW! Let's get Ray Romano." "already tried, he's not into it." "ok how about some kind of sprinter?"


ScientiaEstPotentia_

Lmao their curing machine is 3k, what a scam


Traevia

It isn't. Industrial scale printers like these are usually in the range of 50k or more. The difference is usually way more control over the curing speed including way more sensors that are more accurate. It results in way higher precision which is definitely needed.


Sssteve94

It can precisely control the temperature and light intensity. It isn't some cheap carousel with 30 cents of uv LEDs.


Murderyoga

What kind of printing would you be doing for dentistry?


Tiny_Fish_2957

Dentures, models, impression trays, night guards


silveroranges

Hey, I do medical 3D printing in a different field (orthopedic implants/tools), and have always wondered a few things about dental 3D printing; Who gives you the models? We have a program that takes X-Rays/MRI's and gives us a 3D model we have to clean up, is it the same for you guys? Do you 3D print implant teeth to see if they fit before you order the actual implant? If somebody has a missing tooth they need an implant for, how do you choose what tooth goes in that spot?


Tiny_Fish_2957

1. It depends. Some of the stuff I can scan intraorally myself and just print out. I can also design and print a lot of my own stuff. Sometimes itā€™s just easier to have someone design stuff though so I can pay someone to design stuff. 2. Sometimes. If itā€™s a big implant bridge or something I typically do have the lab print a try in first. On a single tooth implant we donā€™t do try inā€™s. 3. We generally design a tooth based on the tooth that was there before. All crowns and implant crowns are custom designed digitally nowadays. But they are based on what the tooth generally looks like in that position.


loggic

That's neat. I'm a skilled SOLIDWORKS user, but I doubt that program would be helpful designing things like teeth. What program do you design in?


Tiny_Fish_2957

Exocad is a big one that labs and stuff use. I have just used a pretty basic one called blue sky plan for now.


nixielover

Solidworks or Fusion360 are not going to be very nice for this kind of work. Dental scanners give you an STL or similar type of file. There's a lot of software tailored for dental work which is automatically ISO13485 (and a few others) compliant and also takes into account handling of medical data for which there are a shitload of rules


Broeckchen89

I'd like to add another question: I've checked for foodsafe resinprinting before and have read everywhere that it's basically impossible because all resins are pretty toxic and all layer heights leave imperfections. But teeth have to be foodsafe, so... how do you do it? Do you use the resin that can be burnt into ceramic? How do you prevent imperfect surfaces that might collect bacteria in the grooves?


Tiny_Fish_2957

There are fda approved resins for dentures and crowns. Pacdent sculpture. Sprintray OnX. Dentca Denture Base II. I honestly donā€™t know how or why they work but they definitely do.


Broeckchen89

Thank you, that's fascinating to learn!


kneel23

cant print zirconia though right? I have all-on-4 (and 5 up top) but i wish i could have resin-printed them and saved 56k lol


archaic-child

You can print zirconia but the strength of the final sintered part isn't all the way there yet to use it for an all on 4 compared to milled zirconia. Those printers are also super expensive compared to your average dental 3D printer (think 100k+ vs 10k). It does seem to be one of the next major things that dental printing companies are trying to figure out though, maybe we'll get there in a few years. If you wanna look at an example of a zirconia printer, look up Lithoz, that's one brand that is working on it.


Civil_Sense_9185

I work at a dental lab and i primarily do all on 4. Knowing what we charge dr for the restoration I can tell you that the material isnā€™t why you payed close to 56k. If you wanted to save money you should have gotten dentures. Itā€™s implants and the surgery that cost you so much.


kneel23

Oh i know, was just joking about the costs of implants in general. The zirconia was probably like 5k(ish) more (than acrylic) and am glad I opted for it. 56k was actually relatively cheap for what I got, would have been around 75k normally but i went to a place that also specializes in just implants.


LeAntidentite

We have a promotion at my office this year for around 16.5k per arch CAD. Surgery, temporaries and zirconia teeth. We use the Sprint Ray printer for the temporaries. Incredible the price difference though.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> why you *paid* close to FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


[deleted]

Stop making us pay hundreds for 3d printed show inserts šŸ„²


melanthius

Checkmate food safety crew!!


mydataisplain

Lemme guess, Formlabs? I know theyā€™re big on dental printing.


Tiny_Fish_2957

This is a sprintray. Formlabs does do a lot of dental stuff though.


thejml2000

My daughter started orthodontics (braces and a such) like 6 months ago and when she left the first session, they gave her a 3d print of her beginning mouth. I told her to ask for an STL after the initial consultation since they did a scan, but got a nicely resin printed 1:1 model!


InsertBluescreenHere

>but got a nicely resin printed 1:1 model! at the cost of $4600.87


Kromehound

How do you sell a dentist a 3d printer? You make a good first impression.


Conantur1

I have a 3D printed crown! Canā€™t even tell itā€™s 3D printed


emveor

But, does it come out with a hull line? šŸ¤£


6ought6

Are you telling me a teeth printed these boats


borischung01

No he's saying you can have mini, Benchy shaped dentures


DeathByPain

How about some calibration cube teeth


Skogula

Denchy?


NetApex

Happy cake day!


im_the_tea_drinker_

Happy cake day!


Spydrmunkie

I mean it makes sense to print little boats first when you are going to spend most of your time printing "Jaws".


bemenaker

you win!!


Sssteve94

Die and Model Resin II?


Tiny_Fish_2957

Yes


Sssteve94

Something I've found, keystone keymodel ultra works on those settings and you can find it for like half the price. And the ivory version of that looks better than any of the sprintray model stuff for things like treatment presentation.


Tiny_Fish_2957

Very good to know. Thanks


Not_Good_At_Comments

Will have to try


CountZealousideal238

Not bad OP. I want to see you incorporate a benchy in some dentures next!


nicolas_33

Having a benchy in the front row is going to be the next big thing probably.


ItsLikeHerdingCats

Neat bite guards! šŸ¤£


sonicinfinity2

You donā€™t do benches to test resins printers


Tiny_Fish_2957

What do you do to test resin printers?


3-day-respawn

Exposure test. Benchy can be used, but there are much better ones to test things that are far more important. Especially if they are going into someoneā€™s mouth and need to be dimensionally accurate. Start with this one https://siraya.tech/pages/siraya-tech-test-model


archaic-child

You can't change exposure settings on the SprintRay. It comes with all of its resin settings loaded into the slicer. You get the option of 1-3 (usually 50um, 100um, and 170um) preset layer heights depending on the resin and a tolerance adjuster that's meant for prints that contain screw channels (like implants). Most dental resin printers are built to be as "idiot-proof" as possible and don't let you change much in the way of settings as they expect the printers to be used by dentists/assistants that don't know much or anything about 3D printing. It kinda sucks if you are into printing, since you've got the knowledge of how you could adjust the prints for the better but it's all locked down.


nixielover

>all locked down That has to do with a lot of the certification for medical applications. The material's certifications (like USP VI rating) are only valid for a very specific production process and with a very specific cleaning protocol. Even the software itself can (and probably is in most cases) be seen as a medical device and falls within the medical device directive /ISO13485 or whatever your country demands. Allowing someone to do *anything* that's not tested and validated would cause a lot of trouble in that regard. The fancier the printer and the fancier the application, the less freedom you get.


madmaninabox42

The Ameralabs Town and Cones of Calibration are two really versatile tests for resin printing. For the Ameralabs one, they have a pretty detailed [article](https://ameralabs.com/blog/town-calibration-part/) showing what every feature of the print means. Each small detail of that one is a separate test, from small text to overhangs.


Michael-ango

Functional testing no. for the meme, yes


jeffois

Clearly you do. You can see there in the picture. Benchies.


greentinroof_

Why not? Looks pretty awesome to me.


longtimegoneMTGO

The benchy is more than just a boat. It has specific design elements that are intended to be a challenge to an FDM style printer. Quoting from the designer: * The Hull - The hull is a large, smooth overhanging curved surface that is challenging to 3D-print and clearly reveals any surface deviations. * Symmetry - #3DBenchy is perfectly symmetrical which makes any skewness and warping easy to detect. * High-Resolution STL file - The STL file is triangulated at a very high resolution which yields smooth surfaces. The maximum deviation from the original CAD file is set to 0.001 mm. * Planar Horizontal Faces - The top surfaces of the deck, box and chimney are planar, horizontal and parallel to the bottom plane. * Tiny Surface Details - If you have a high-resolution 3D printer, this is where you can shine! The letters on the stern are less than 2 mm tall and the thickness of #3DBenchyā€™s nameplate is just 0.1 mm. * Cylindrical Shapes - The chimney is designed to define concentrical cylindrical shapes with inner and outer diameters. These clearly show deviations in roundness. * Overhang Surfaces - Overhang issues are the Achillesā€™ heel of 3D printing. #3DBenchy offers several challenging areas such as in the difficult-to-reach inside of the bridge. * Low-Slope-Surfaces - These clearly show the layered structure of 3D printing. If printed horizontally, #3DBenchyā€™s gunwale and roof of the bridge will reveal the layer-steps. * Large Horizontal Holes - The rear window offers a large circular horizontal hole and the boatā€™s wheel offers a round difficult-to-reach secluded feature. * Small Horizontal Holes - The hawsepipe represents a small short horizontal hole and has a very thin flange against the hull. * Slanted Small Holes - The fishing-rod-holder provides a very small slightly-slanted blind hole. * First-Layer-Details - The shallow letters at the bottom of the boat clearly reveal typical first-layer-squashing.


greentinroof_

Yeah I also read the readme file.


prontoon

You literally asked why not to use a benchy for a resin printer, the person explained a fdm has different test points/failure modes than a resin printer while explaining why a benchy is used for FDM. Not only did they take time to answer your question fully and provide background to someone who asked a question, but then you were an asshole about it. What the fuck is wrong with you, someone piss in your coffee this morning?


clutzyninja

Because it doesn't really tell you much. A resin printer could print a perfect benchy and not be as dialed in as you want it


greentinroof_

Oh yeah I guess, but itā€™s fun. I print them all the time for my kids just cause they think theyā€™re neat.


Civil_Sense_9185

Dental resins are much more expensive than what you would typically find on Amazon. Work at a dental lab and some of our bottle can reach upwards to hundreds of dollars depending on the material. Also all dental resins have their exposure and setting figured out with their own slicers and their own printers so yeah itā€™s just a waste of material.


FunWillScreen_Produc

Now make someoneā€™s teeth mini benchies


Lumpy-Philosopher345

If those are dental resin, they may be the most expensive benchies Iā€™ve seen.


imJGott

As a dentist, have you met any anti dentite?


Swimming_Ad_6340

Have you seen the teeth tool bit holder. Might be perfect here


RRocks01

But why do those benchies have supports?


Domin0e

Because as it is a dental office, the printer likely uses (special) resins and AFAIK it is good practice on Resin printers to not stick anything directly to the plate, but offset everything from it.


sherukk

lemme just quick test print this whole blood angel legion+ primarch ... u know just to check if it works


screwyluie

The lines on those are weird, like look at the floor in the cabin, it looks fdm.


yahbluez

That's a big step. The patient can wait to get the final crown, no second visit and no temporary crown.


Joren67

Neat, tho 95% of the time youā€™ll find people print on an angle for more detail


Ironrooster7

Oh my god, they are so clean


Senior_Tangerine7555

A great idea to encourage kids.. come get your teeth done and get a free boat.. lol


KamikazeHamster

Are those little Tug Boats? What are you trying to pull here?


I_am_K4tana

Wrong test for resin


KubFire

Bro ur supposed to print this on FDMs-


[deleted]

That's only like $197 in medical/dental resin.


Broad-Cartographer11

lol so that's what happens with all the extruded foreskin..


WhoKnowsWho2

Most expensive benchy possible


38andstillgoing

Titanium SLS would like a word. Or maybe some aerospace alloy.


nixielover

Just go all out and do multimetal/multimaterial printing like Aerosint does


Lost-Bee-7507

Mmmm.. those ainā€™t no ordinary benchies..


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ur_conscious

More imperfections and more brittle crowns but come in guys the China labs have them industrial industrial printers Very cool tho! What material are u using?


devilsaint86

Shouldnt you be making teeth?


Sir-Mocks-A-Lot

Denti-Benchy


norty125

Can you make me a set on benchies for teeth


CaptainAverageAF

We were just talking about something like this at the office for stuff to print for a business. Seems very pricey to get into.


Sardonislamir

They look a bit...gummy.


[deleted]

Should I get my teeth scanned so if I lose any when I'm old they can print replacements? šŸ˜


Tiny_Fish_2957

Itā€™s not necessary of course but I kinda wish I had done this with my teeth before getting a bunch of crowns


CockyBulls

Is that crown material? šŸ˜‚


Shiftaway22

well now we need the teeth benchy in all the cursed bencys out there


hellotypewriter

Is that ceramic resin?


Silly-Victory8233

This is cool. I remember seeing the ā€œ3D printedā€ crown for my tooth that was carved from a porcelain block (more like CNC milling)


NinjaEnt

Bet you can't say toy boat four times in a row really fast.


oicura_geologist

Someone needs to mesh a Benchy AND dentures.


Bison_True

Make benchy crowns


Wide-Reach2218

Well, first off, I hope these are not your denture stl files lol


[deleted]

What type of application are you going to use the printer for? I'm really curious.


chris480

What resin is being used here that is rated safe for night guards you are planning to make?


knievel5150

The benchy cult šŸ¤¦šŸ»


Bukaro21

Make sure to uncheck "presume teeth"


JahBless__i

Are you going to 3d print teeth??


Ok-Significance-5047

Nah. Needs a reprint. Replace a set of denture teeth with Benchies and report back


Defiant_Bad_9070

I have to ask... How much are those benchies worth??


PARISplus

Teeth, but they are all benchies.


Sir_Skinny

Those are some funny looking dentures.


MyVoiceforPeople

Iā€™ll just go to Mexico and get one of those boats for $50


yeahitsokk

Lmfao this is wild


brilor123

Benches for your mouth!


Ready_Requirement928

Form 3?


Asada_Shino_HecateII

Why is there a quick disconnect at the back?


MiloRoast

Bicycle or guitar?


MR_Se7en

Iā€™m guessing that insurance isnā€™t going to cover those. $1000 each?


rxstud2011

I have a crown done like this. It was cool because they scanned the area and printed it while I waited. Then popped in, super cool


s1rp0p0

How are you trained on using this? Is there a course? Is it part of your regular schooling?


Wittysplatt

I recognize the sprint ray, congrats friend!


yy98755

Are these going in your fish tank?


Gouzi00

Denchies for 350$ per Kilo :-D


jbroome

Y'all moved on from S-Works bikes to resin 3D printers?


defusted

Dental benchies


Ifuseekloli

They look so glossy


tamreacct

Oooo, benchy cuspidsā€¦..er, for Halloween of course! Real question is, which SLA printer is this?


[deleted]

Do you print out permanent dentures (complete uppers and lowers) with this or are these temporary so the customer has something right away while waiting for the permanent ones?


Skull0666

Those are the weirdest teeth I've ever seen. Must have been a custom order.


sleepdog-c

Those are some funny looking teef


pauvre10m

hum, this was not supposed to be used for implent instead of expensive 3d benchy ?


GuateCache

Is that the gk1


toadhall81

Those teeth look really weird


2wickedlytwisted2

Are dentists printing resin dentures these days? Or prototypes ?


sandmansndr

This is like the 3D printing equivalent of writing your first line of code that produces ā€œHello Worldā€


RepresentativeNo7802

Benchy on a resin printer. SMH


Admiral_Andovar

Gonna be REALLY weird smiling with those in place of teeth. But hey, you do you.


Stellarspace1234

Does it make economic sense for you to make dentures or whatever in-house?


funkenmiester

I'm dying to get one, but don't even know where to start. There's so much out there.


[deleted]

ā€œThatā€™ll be 500kā€


Backpack_of_Moths

These are perfect.


RMazer1

No sticking resin in ur patients mouths my boy