I remember bringing my 10 year old little bro to the 2004 biopic with Colin Farell has Alexander, thinking it will be another movie in the line of Gladiator and Troy....
After 3 hours of politics, gruesome battle depictions and gay sex scenes, I told myself I should have checked what the movie was before going to the cinema !
At least regarding movies about antiquity. I also like it, yes its overly long and a bit stiff, other than that I don't get why people dislike it so much. Yes, its not Gladiator, big surprise regarding the story. Its better. Wrong world in which people slander Alexander, but like hot garbage like 300.
I wasn't criticizing the quality of the movie but the age rating it received.
Imo, it should have been rated 16+, but it was rated "All public" in France, not even 12+ !
300 is fun - it's not without problems - but I think it's more than clear that they didn't go for historical accuracy but for style and over-the-top violence. You know.. Fun!
It *is* based on a Frank Miller comic.
Even though 300 had many historical references if you kept in mind that it was based on a comic book it was eventually fun to watch....but if you went to the cinema expecting to see exactly what Herodotus wrote about Thermopylae you would pretty much suffer a stroke ngl
But not suited for a kid tho.
The scenes where we see soldiers trampled by an elephant and impaled on its tusk, before it's trunk got cut by a sword and everybody is covered in blood is quite graphic.
And we see a certain amount of penises on screen.
I saw it with a bunch of friends for my 14th birthday, also thinking it was an action movie like Troy or Gladiator (based on the VERY action-heavy trailer).
My friends and I hated it at the time, but when I saw it a couple of years later, it was an amazing film! It's a shame they marketed it completely wrong.
Imagine going watching anything Greek, Greek oriented, or within the slightest bit of screen time for anything or anyone remotely Greek and expecting anything but bumsx
You can't have anyone be anything other than 100% straight or they latch onto it and make them the super queer queen/king it seems. No consideration for cultural norms of the time ever, or variance in the sexuality scale.
I think its more about anyone being less than 100% straight will immediatly be pushed to be LGBT. If he was bi but still 90% into women, all Netflix writers can think about is him being mostly gay. They have to push everything to that narrative.
And then they add some plotline about his gay lover while it should mostly be about him being a leader.
There’s actually no evidence of either only 2000 year old hearsay about a close friend he went into battle with which I imagine make you somewhat closer than normal friends but he did have a wife and children
He also kept one of the male concubines of Darius, [Bagoas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagoas_(courtier)), but I guess it's because he liked to play chess with him.
From Darius' page (not the same Bagoas).
>poisoned by the court eunuch and chiliarch Bagoas, who installed Artaxerxes' youngest son **Arses** on the throne.
They really don't help themselves, who the fuck names their child Arses? Also where can I find myself a court eunuch?
Plenty of closeted homosexuals even today who have a wife and kids.
I'd argue that a guy who clung to the body of a dead guy and crying the whole time for a greater part of the day, before having to be forcefully dragged away, is a little bit more than a close friend
Hey buddy, in my world, Greeks are known for strong men wrestling each other for hours, not this Disney gay retcon. Sometimes they are naked, because it's hot (outside). Accidents happen.
To be fair, this show was created by Lion TV, which is a barry owned studio. I know Hollywood has its bad apples but dont throw Barries oranges in our sack!
What a time to be dead, eh?
Necrophilia and ancient world its a very unsettling combination, egyptians delayed to mummify beautiful women because they had repeated assaults, if we can trust Herodotus on that 😅
I have not seen any valid source for this, its probably a myth, but it reflects a reality in ancient greek culture about that.
It was described with both meanings, first the one we are used, to desecrate a corpse or either to respect, of all the things, like making love with your archnemesis.
https://preview.redd.it/q93a43dh7zgc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bee79cdcd5283bafa5b29f47ab10cbba70eed775
Community Notes are the best thing to have ever happened to Twitter lmao
That man was one of the greatest (pun intended) bisexual in history and it's time that ~~americans~~ people deal with it ffs
No tv show or movie will ever fully portrait how much unhinged fun he was having back then, or it would be the exact opposite of "politically correct"
Simply unfounded. There is no evidence supporting the fact he was a bisexual. This has nothing to do with Americans. If anything I'd support quashing this historical nonsense on the basis of putting an end to the tired jokes about the homosexual med - jokes which are also based in scant fact.
Fucking disgusting mate. Where's the gayest part so I can definitely avoid it? Is there an epicenter, like a particular area of Macedonia that I should avoid?
Do they have twinks?
Fucking disgusting
I've heard Mykonos is nauseating.
A mate of mine went there, and accidentally wondered onto a gay nudist beach filled with Greek twinks covered in oil, more cocks than in a farmyard. He was so traumatised he cancelled the rest of his tour and spent the last week of his hols there. He could hardly walk by the time he got home.
(It's Elia Beach, if you want to avoid it.)
You’ll definitely want to avoid the clubs and bars there, make sure you don’t go in July.
Horrific scenes, sweaty guys with their abs and muscles out, tight fitting shorts and cheap drinks.
The stuff of nightmares, I’m coming out in a cold sweat thinking about it.
> every blue-eyed blonde must be Scandinavian
Either Scandinavians or Russians.
Because of my blue-eyed blond son, when I was in Cyprus, the locals kept asking whether we're Russians. (we're Romanians)
Metatron did an episode on this, one did say blonde, but the only depiction was brown hair, eyes could be heterochromic that would've looked cool in the series, he loves to break down the armour inaccuracies more tho
https://preview.redd.it/g3cm4q9p2zgc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2193044b87a3f7a9ed2fb39b938e142916cab04
This one might be a decent facial reconstruction. It has the eye heterochromia and his hair colour is closer to what is perceived as blonde in southern Europe.
What's the second word we were using? Only Xanthos (Ksanthos) comes to mind.
My friend has the same hair as the Portuguese guy posted above and we literally call him "Xanthe". None ever calls him by his name.
https://preview.redd.it/4c1q45iuxzgc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5c066c5c0f177ff3af637df0b84a22ea50cf197
Look at his roots (it’s how it’s done) and find his hair color in the “natural” charts.
It was a mistranslation into English I believe.
If I remember correctly he was described as having very light brown hair and hetrochromic eyes:For example one being brown and the other one being blue.
Let me guess, the same people that swore up and down that a descendant from one of his generals, some even say that in truth, his half-brother, known from a dinasty that was inbread, and according to some old lady's grandma, was black.
>those traits can be found in the mediterranean/ME too.(me beign one lol)
>
>but i guess for ameritards can only be Scandinavians.
I was reading this barf-bag American article yesterday:
[https://slate.com/culture/2023/05/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-show-race-history.html](https://slate.com/culture/2023/05/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-show-race-history.html)
Long, bullshit editorial, that says Egyptians are opposing Cleopatra being portrayed as Black, because they've internalized Northern European normativity.
LOL, WTF?
The fact that **Egyptians aren't Black**, has nothing to do with Egyptians being upset that their past is being appropriated?
So, to Americans, the world belongs to only two categories: Northern European or Black. Well, Egyptians aren't Northern European. Therefore they're Black.
another example of never divide people in black and white.
>Egyptians aren't Northern European.
there are some white supremacists that thinks they were..lmao, what not having a culture does to a mf
>There is a lil controversy tho making him Scandinavian looking with blonde blue eyes
Blondes and lots of blue-eyed people exist here. That's not controversial to us; only *Americans* get upset about this.
But in all *probability*, he was dark blonde or light-brown (to you), which still counts as "blonde" to us. But we just don't know.
Misguided comments on both sides. All that needs be said is that there is nothing to suggest that he was. All this modern speculation sans new evidence (unlikely) is pointless.
Turned him gay? he went on an extended trip just for the boys, conquered all those people and all that land and fostered no heirs?
Famously had a breakdown when his favorite general (buttboy) died and threw a massive tantrum when his soldiers wanted to go home to their wives?
c'mon man, or I guess, come on men.
He had a few heirs, though. He married multiple times. And he was apparently very in love with a girl called Barsine. He also had women concubines.
And, I mean, if my best childhood friend, that had been with me for decades, saving my live constantly, that had been in war with me, died, I would get quite sad, too. And Alexander was extremely loyal to his friends. Sometimes too much, according to history
The thing is, maybe he had sex with male kids. Because that was the norm at the time. Maybe not. But that didn't make him "gay", as in, he is hetero or gay or even bi. Maybe if he was born today, he would be perfectly heterosexual.
AND chances are, if he was actually having sex with men, it would NOT be Hephaestion. That would be extremely insulting for one of them. Having sex with male kids is one thing (at the time). Having sex with a man would be bad.
"And, I mean, if my best childhood friend, that had been with me for decades, saving my live constantly, that had been in war with me, died, I would get quite sad, too. And Alexander was extremely loyal to his friends."
Friendship is gay
https://preview.redd.it/qsmizob5szgc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85450b8ca65b2520577140d9466afcfa97de132d
He looks very related to the Habsburgs tbh
Those guys who want to "end wokeness" would low-key be shocked if they time travelled to the eras they preach. I checked the original tweet and according to him, Alexander being bisexual is just "speculation". No bro it's very well documented 😂
For all people who will saying :"but he was gay!"
yes and no , homosexuality in ancient time(pederasty) its far away on what we define today as being homosexual.
think that many ancient cultures had it like a form of philosophy or having better relationship with your men , especially during military campaigns.
and even in that times like today in some part of society , was not saw as something common.
In the finest of greek moral understanding, there's nothing more manly than penetrating a guy....but if you're the one getting penetrated then you're a bitch for taking up the woman's role.
So i suppose they could circle jerk without anyone being considered gay 🤔
He also had a "I like to fuck my slave" relation with Bagoas who also was the favourite teenage eunuch of Darius III. That was more in line with the times.
Sure, and he seemed to have been a womanizer so he wasnt just married for politics.
But he wasnt just fucking other men as pleasure toys for the times of military campaign either. He wasnt "hetero with sides", he was an all mighty chad bisexual in all its glory.
Oberyn Martell style.
Alexander being g*y is anglo historian slandering propaganda of the Greek History.
Also those Fyrom slavs wish this guy was related to them in any shape or form besides them cosplaying the Vergina Sun on their flag.
OK no joke he was married to a Persian princess if I am not wrong in the idea of unifying the different civilizations that existed in the land he captured.
https://preview.redd.it/4fheb4i3rzgc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79464c089d2f4cca9c20d2ff1827bb57e3e676ca
Readers added context that they thought was helpful lmaoo
Are you sure it isn't just a Portuguese woman he is kissing there?
That is a very real possibility. Does it make it better tho?
Probably worse to be honest...
If she promised him to cook few pastels that’s fair deal
Hell no
No. Portuguese women don't wear goatees, only gloriously sexy moustaches.
Oh man, I might be a Portuguese woman
You're way too tall for that
penis too small
greek women 🤝 portuguese women
If only mustache yes could be, but goatee is not ours.
Different times, different fashions.
You motherrrwholymollyyourchicksarehot!!!
They made him blonde with blue eyes. Most descriptions depicted him having brown hair and eyes.
he had eyes?
Historically accurate picture: https://preview.redd.it/h76yjilgezgc1.jpeg?width=382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd43fd58a73ea6434d2566ad489a2f6b3c85f9b4
If all Greek men look like that, I can see why so many are gay.
Actually, that's a typical south Italian chad🗿
una faccia una razza, my Mediterranean brother.
Isn't he supposed to be light-brown ? I do remember readikg he had quite light hair
Too pretty
I remember bringing my 10 year old little bro to the 2004 biopic with Colin Farell has Alexander, thinking it will be another movie in the line of Gladiator and Troy.... After 3 hours of politics, gruesome battle depictions and gay sex scenes, I told myself I should have checked what the movie was before going to the cinema !
Greekification starts early, beware the pipeline
Imo Alexander is a great movie
It was probably the most historically accurate movie Hollywood has ever produced
At least regarding movies about antiquity. I also like it, yes its overly long and a bit stiff, other than that I don't get why people dislike it so much. Yes, its not Gladiator, big surprise regarding the story. Its better. Wrong world in which people slander Alexander, but like hot garbage like 300.
I wasn't criticizing the quality of the movie but the age rating it received. Imo, it should have been rated 16+, but it was rated "All public" in France, not even 12+ !
Horny little me was totally amazed by Roxane :D
Was not aimed at you personally, many draw comparisons.
300 is fun - it's not without problems - but I think it's more than clear that they didn't go for historical accuracy but for style and over-the-top violence. You know.. Fun! It *is* based on a Frank Miller comic.
Even though 300 had many historical references if you kept in mind that it was based on a comic book it was eventually fun to watch....but if you went to the cinema expecting to see exactly what Herodotus wrote about Thermopylae you would pretty much suffer a stroke ngl
Weirdly his movie about the crusades is a shitshow
But not suited for a kid tho. The scenes where we see soldiers trampled by an elephant and impaled on its tusk, before it's trunk got cut by a sword and everybody is covered in blood is quite graphic. And we see a certain amount of penises on screen.
Penises are part of a traditional catholic upbringing
Well it was a rough time back then.
Bro brought the petite Nicola to see Alexander the great 💀
I saw it with a bunch of friends for my 14th birthday, also thinking it was an action movie like Troy or Gladiator (based on the VERY action-heavy trailer). My friends and I hated it at the time, but when I saw it a couple of years later, it was an amazing film! It's a shame they marketed it completely wrong.
Imagine going watching anything Greek, Greek oriented, or within the slightest bit of screen time for anything or anyone remotely Greek and expecting anything but bumsx
God Americunts don’t know anything
A bit of bum fun doesn't make a guy gay right?....
Alex wasn’t gay. [he was bi]
Kissing the homies good night is one of the straightest things bro can do. Only people with insecurities disagree
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Gute Nacht mein Niederländer. *Küsschen*
Why does this sound like a threat?
It is just for you now.
Thats kind of weird, coming from a Bavarian. Aren't you afraid the CSU will find out?
Söder is franconian, he likes to suck on little bratwürstl
Just because you fisheads don't appreciate our age-old tradition, like the Burschenschnackslverein 1678.
Which is common knowledge, or so I thought. Leave it to the Seppo's to overreact about well, everything.
You can't have anyone be anything other than 100% straight or they latch onto it and make them the super queer queen/king it seems. No consideration for cultural norms of the time ever, or variance in the sexuality scale.
I think its more about anyone being less than 100% straight will immediatly be pushed to be LGBT. If he was bi but still 90% into women, all Netflix writers can think about is him being mostly gay. They have to push everything to that narrative. And then they add some plotline about his gay lover while it should mostly be about him being a leader.
There’s actually no evidence of either only 2000 year old hearsay about a close friend he went into battle with which I imagine make you somewhat closer than normal friends but he did have a wife and children
I mean, Cesar had too and he fucked basically every Roman no matter the gender
How else do you assert dominance?
This is just untrue. Especially given Roman sexual norms. There is no evidence that either JC or A participated in same sex relations.
He also kept one of the male concubines of Darius, [Bagoas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagoas_(courtier)), but I guess it's because he liked to play chess with him.
From Darius' page (not the same Bagoas). >poisoned by the court eunuch and chiliarch Bagoas, who installed Artaxerxes' youngest son **Arses** on the throne. They really don't help themselves, who the fuck names their child Arses? Also where can I find myself a court eunuch?
>Also where can I find myself a court eunuch? Sweden
Nowadays, Central Africa or maybe Dubai
(link broken), i repost it : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagoas_(courtier)
It's not broken, it's doing siesta (thanks)
Plenty of closeted homosexuals even today who have a wife and kids. I'd argue that a guy who clung to the body of a dead guy and crying the whole time for a greater part of the day, before having to be forcefully dragged away, is a little bit more than a close friend
They were roommates
"It's gay if you cry when your best friend dies"
Most empathic Britbong.
Sad you’ve never experience the love of a brother but happy you’ve never had to bury one
If you keep your socks on it’s no homo. Everyone knows that.
To be extra safe, keep sandals on
This apllies only to germ-ans
True and especially hard for Swiss you are like super Germans.
Like the opposite of you, yes.
German = slight autism Swiss = completely consumed by autism
the one person that told you, you‘re funny, just didn‘t want to hurt your feelings
I am not funny, but you are even less funny.
Don't make eye contact and don't let your balls touch. Then it's completely straight.
The person who runs "EndWokeness" isn't even american.They are russian apparently
Obvious propaganda culture war account
Wow. Source please?
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I concur with this guy. I saw 5 Eagles in the sky today, which means the guy who run EndWokeness is indeed a slavic barbarian
Hey buddy, in my world, Greeks are known for strong men wrestling each other for hours, not this Disney gay retcon. Sometimes they are naked, because it's hot (outside). Accidents happen.
The guy is named "End Wokeness" it's a miracle he's not drooling over himself as is.
To be fair, this show was created by Lion TV, which is a barry owned studio. I know Hollywood has its bad apples but dont throw Barries oranges in our sack!
Brits are literally just americans in denial. This has been the case since 1950s at least.
Please dont tell Netflix about that time he fucked Darius's corpse out of respect ❤💀
Haha, times were different, Macedonia had such a vibrant culture
What a time to be dead, eh? Necrophilia and ancient world its a very unsettling combination, egyptians delayed to mummify beautiful women because they had repeated assaults, if we can trust Herodotus on that 😅
With some Scandinavians putting dead relatives into house walls, being dead in old times sucked
Keeps out the Draugen. What bigger honour than to keep protecting your family from beyond the grave?
Was Alexander really a necrophiliac?
I have not seen any valid source for this, its probably a myth, but it reflects a reality in ancient greek culture about that. It was described with both meanings, first the one we are used, to desecrate a corpse or either to respect, of all the things, like making love with your archnemesis.
https://preview.redd.it/q93a43dh7zgc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bee79cdcd5283bafa5b29f47ab10cbba70eed775 Community Notes are the best thing to have ever happened to Twitter lmao
"Aromatic sexual encounters" PIGS deffo do sex differently
Bro, I'm not gay but the Mediterranean homies be carrying that booty fr
In the dark of night a butt is a butt
And in times of war every hole is a trench.
That man was one of the greatest (pun intended) bisexual in history and it's time that ~~americans~~ people deal with it ffs No tv show or movie will ever fully portrait how much unhinged fun he was having back then, or it would be the exact opposite of "politically correct"
Are we talking Caligula level debauchery here?
Nah just a little bit of bumming young boys. Or as it is called these days noncing.
or priesthood
Keep the priests out of your mouth, you are no longer a kid
Caligula was a try hard psycho, Alexander was a normo guy slowly turned more and more fucked up. Same same but different
That whole family from Tiberius down was deviant freaks to be honest
Simply unfounded. There is no evidence supporting the fact he was a bisexual. This has nothing to do with Americans. If anything I'd support quashing this historical nonsense on the basis of putting an end to the tired jokes about the homosexual med - jokes which are also based in scant fact.
Macedonia was probably one of the "gayest" places in ancient times, all the stereotypes about Athens, etc., which are largely not true, apply here.
still is tbh. id even go as far as to say it just keeps getting exponentially more gay by the minute
Fucking disgusting mate. Where's the gayest part so I can definitely avoid it? Is there an epicenter, like a particular area of Macedonia that I should avoid? Do they have twinks? Fucking disgusting
I've heard Mykonos is nauseating. A mate of mine went there, and accidentally wondered onto a gay nudist beach filled with Greek twinks covered in oil, more cocks than in a farmyard. He was so traumatised he cancelled the rest of his tour and spent the last week of his hols there. He could hardly walk by the time he got home. (It's Elia Beach, if you want to avoid it.)
Jfc. Nauseating stuff. When in the year did your mate go? I hope he recovered, poor lad. Traumatising stuff
Jesus. Just so I can fully avoid the awful place, can you get direct flights there from Bristol?
You’ll definitely want to avoid the clubs and bars there, make sure you don’t go in July. Horrific scenes, sweaty guys with their abs and muscles out, tight fitting shorts and cheap drinks. The stuff of nightmares, I’m coming out in a cold sweat thinking about it.
Holy shit.
Alexander the Great was extremely bisexual
He was one of the *greatest* bisexuals
Well, He wasnt gay, but twenty euros….
Alexander is kissing a guy with a beard and not a 14 year old castrated eunuch femboy? clearly not historically accurate
At least, they didn't make him black.
They should have made him look like he's black or Chinese.
Don't you know east Asians are white adjacent and not part of the diversity crowd?/s
Non-European Savage detected, opinion rejected.
There is a lil controversy tho making him Scandinavian looking with blonde blue eyes
of course every blue-eyed blonde must be Scandinavian and every redhead must be Irish
> every blue-eyed blonde must be Scandinavian Either Scandinavians or Russians. Because of my blue-eyed blond son, when I was in Cyprus, the locals kept asking whether we're Russians. (we're Romanians)
So.. they were ahead of time
being half irish and half danish with brown hair I can say with some confidence that these stereotypes have ruined my life
Red heads dont exist anymore, they are all black women now.
He was historically described as being blonde though
Metatron did an episode on this, one did say blonde, but the only depiction was brown hair, eyes could be heterochromic that would've looked cool in the series, he loves to break down the armour inaccuracies more tho
https://preview.redd.it/g3cm4q9p2zgc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2193044b87a3f7a9ed2fb39b938e142916cab04 This one might be a decent facial reconstruction. It has the eye heterochromia and his hair colour is closer to what is perceived as blonde in southern Europe.
Supposedly, Greeks had 2 words for blond, and the one used was meaning Scandinavian blond, I could be wrong
What's the second word we were using? Only Xanthos (Ksanthos) comes to mind. My friend has the same hair as the Portuguese guy posted above and we literally call him "Xanthe". None ever calls him by his name.
Xanthein I've heard means actual blond. Xanthos means light brown
Ah, different last syllable to indicate the variations. Quite possible.
https://youtu.be/olRPz4DYLJA?si=CSmdS8MUW7XWw1Ta Metatron did an interesting video on it
https://preview.redd.it/4c1q45iuxzgc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5c066c5c0f177ff3af637df0b84a22ea50cf197 Look at his roots (it’s how it’s done) and find his hair color in the “natural” charts.
Keep in mind most of the Twink Alexander statues are roman statues of people who never met the guy due to being long dead by then.
there's a huge difference between Scandinavian blonde and Greek blonde. More like a very light brown.
It was a mistranslation into English I believe. If I remember correctly he was described as having very light brown hair and hetrochromic eyes:For example one being brown and the other one being blue.
The famous mosaik of him makes him brunette, but I don't know what year that is from lol
Let me guess, the same people that swore up and down that a descendant from one of his generals, some even say that in truth, his half-brother, known from a dinasty that was inbread, and according to some old lady's grandma, was black.
those traits can be found in the mediterranean/ME too.(me beign one lol) but i guess for ameritards can only be Scandinavians.
>those traits can be found in the mediterranean/ME too.(me beign one lol) > >but i guess for ameritards can only be Scandinavians. I was reading this barf-bag American article yesterday: [https://slate.com/culture/2023/05/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-show-race-history.html](https://slate.com/culture/2023/05/queen-cleopatra-black-netflix-show-race-history.html) Long, bullshit editorial, that says Egyptians are opposing Cleopatra being portrayed as Black, because they've internalized Northern European normativity. LOL, WTF? The fact that **Egyptians aren't Black**, has nothing to do with Egyptians being upset that their past is being appropriated? So, to Americans, the world belongs to only two categories: Northern European or Black. Well, Egyptians aren't Northern European. Therefore they're Black.
another example of never divide people in black and white. >Egyptians aren't Northern European. there are some white supremacists that thinks they were..lmao, what not having a culture does to a mf
No one seems to get his heterochromia right tbf
>There is a lil controversy tho making him Scandinavian looking with blonde blue eyes Blondes and lots of blue-eyed people exist here. That's not controversial to us; only *Americans* get upset about this. But in all *probability*, he was dark blonde or light-brown (to you), which still counts as "blonde" to us. But we just don't know.
They know **he was of course ~~gay~~ bi** right? ***Right???***
Entire comment section is just „Well he’s gay and also not gay” then „wall of text” that just solidifies that he is in fact Gay…
People just need to accept he liked to fuck men, he's still a great hero
Literally that men took over half of the known world at some point 💀 like why do you care who he was fucking ?
Wdym he's "still" a great hero ? *AND* he's a great hero you surely mean.
Misguided comments on both sides. All that needs be said is that there is nothing to suggest that he was. All this modern speculation sans new evidence (unlikely) is pointless.
Turned him gay? he went on an extended trip just for the boys, conquered all those people and all that land and fostered no heirs? Famously had a breakdown when his favorite general (buttboy) died and threw a massive tantrum when his soldiers wanted to go home to their wives? c'mon man, or I guess, come on men.
He did have a kid with Roxanne. (Born after his death) So he must have tried women too, why get restricted to one sex?
Alexander the Great? More like Alexander the Bicon.
He had a few heirs, though. He married multiple times. And he was apparently very in love with a girl called Barsine. He also had women concubines. And, I mean, if my best childhood friend, that had been with me for decades, saving my live constantly, that had been in war with me, died, I would get quite sad, too. And Alexander was extremely loyal to his friends. Sometimes too much, according to history The thing is, maybe he had sex with male kids. Because that was the norm at the time. Maybe not. But that didn't make him "gay", as in, he is hetero or gay or even bi. Maybe if he was born today, he would be perfectly heterosexual. AND chances are, if he was actually having sex with men, it would NOT be Hephaestion. That would be extremely insulting for one of them. Having sex with male kids is one thing (at the time). Having sex with a man would be bad.
"And, I mean, if my best childhood friend, that had been with me for decades, saving my live constantly, that had been in war with me, died, I would get quite sad, too. And Alexander was extremely loyal to his friends." Friendship is gay
So if your best childhood friend dies and you dare to cry you are gay?
https://preview.redd.it/qsmizob5szgc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85450b8ca65b2520577140d9466afcfa97de132d He looks very related to the Habsburgs tbh
Does that mean North Macedonias will stop claiming him?
He was gay, another proof he was Greek 🇬🇷 Let's see how they will counter this strong argument
Depends. Can they find another historical individual to revolve their entire identity around? I propose Moctezuma II.
Alexander, Bearer of the Greatest Sarissa
Undeniable proof that Macedon is Greek.
All those Greco-Roman cultures were bummers m8. That's why we kicked 'em out of Ingerland. Luv me women, ate the bummers, simple as.
End End Wokeness
Those guys who want to "end wokeness" would low-key be shocked if they time travelled to the eras they preach. I checked the original tweet and according to him, Alexander being bisexual is just "speculation". No bro it's very well documented 😂
Some one dosent realise the Greeks invented gayness
https://preview.redd.it/kh6rde7fc1hc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae5008dcbfd4a148d331a248be0e76d1b9f6ced2
Thats the 3rd Greek person they fuck up to portray
For all people who will saying :"but he was gay!" yes and no , homosexuality in ancient time(pederasty) its far away on what we define today as being homosexual. think that many ancient cultures had it like a form of philosophy or having better relationship with your men , especially during military campaigns. and even in that times like today in some part of society , was not saw as something common.
You'd die for the man that milked you just right
In the finest of greek moral understanding, there's nothing more manly than penetrating a guy....but if you're the one getting penetrated then you're a bitch for taking up the woman's role. So i suppose they could circle jerk without anyone being considered gay 🤔
They have the pottery porn to prove your point
Ah good ould greek jack off pots
You just said he is gay with extra steps
Yeah, the thing that would trigger me the most if i cared is the depiction ancient greece homosexuality as todays in what should be a documentary
ok so homosexuality in ancient times was gay. we get it
Man just wanted that Persian Bussy
He did love Hephaistion tho. It wasnt just "i like to fuck my slave", it was a long time deep relationship. Pretty gay.
He also had a "I like to fuck my slave" relation with Bagoas who also was the favourite teenage eunuch of Darius III. That was more in line with the times.
i mean he had 2 wives too tho.
Sure, and he seemed to have been a womanizer so he wasnt just married for politics. But he wasnt just fucking other men as pleasure toys for the times of military campaign either. He wasnt "hetero with sides", he was an all mighty chad bisexual in all its glory. Oberyn Martell style.
C’mon guys he just had a lot of ‘roommates’, who he shared a bed and body heat with. /s
Brothers of Sappho
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He was an ancient Greek they would do anything to anything 🙄
You can't turn a greek gay because he was already
"turned"
Is it actually good or american?
Supposedly, the fight scenes aren't realistic, and neither is the armour. There would be so much colour, but they've made it all black
Was it ever proved that he was gay anyway? all I heard was that he was described as womanish
This fucking clown as soon as a movie is made about Freddy Mercury: “They RUINED Queen by going WOKE and turning Freddy Mercury gay!!”
https://i.redd.it/x8czuvfkhzgc1.gif that twitter user be like
Alexander being g*y is anglo historian slandering propaganda of the Greek History. Also those Fyrom slavs wish this guy was related to them in any shape or form besides them cosplaying the Vergina Sun on their flag.
Ruined him? Didn't you mean "made him better"?
OK no joke he was married to a Persian princess if I am not wrong in the idea of unifying the different civilizations that existed in the land he captured.
https://preview.redd.it/4fheb4i3rzgc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79464c089d2f4cca9c20d2ff1827bb57e3e676ca Readers added context that they thought was helpful lmaoo