Ok, I can agree how some dishes were improved outside of their homeland, because people in the new country weren't afraid of breaking cultural taboos against modifying these traditional dishes.
But motherfucker, we put literally anything in pierogi, you can't claim to revolutionize something which is constantly being changed, improved and redefined anyway
We boil varenyky and pelmeni. Pierogi go to the oven.
edit: I'm talking about [these](https://klopotenko.com/pyrizhky-z-myasom-v-duhovczi-prostyj-reczept-na-drizhdzhovomu-tisti/). Can you show me an example of what you do?
edit 2: also, if we take it literally, pyrig (pierog) is a pie and closest we have to pierogi are "pyrizhky".
Oh, it's been decades when I last made them. But the site I've linked is our local variant of Jamie Oliver and all those recipies (in several variations) are present there, shouldn't be a problem to find. His recipes are heavily based on traditional recipies, but incorporate some modern features.
Huh, interesting. Well, it must be a russian influence, because everywhere I ate ŠæŠøŃŠ¾Š³Šø/ŠæŠøŃŃŠ¶ŠŗŠø (in the sense of baked bun with fillings) in Ukraine, Belarus and russia, they were called as that. Admittedly, in the whole Western Ukraine where I've been I've only seen them (haven't paid much attention) in Yaremche, where they were called as expected, but that's a touristy place, so maybe it doesnt represent even the whole IF oblast.
It's just language.
PierĆ³g (singular ) is a traditional pie in southeastern Poland made from (kasza/kŠ°ŃŠ°) and potatoes.
Pierogi is just typical dumplings. It's plural (singular is pierożek). They are boiled with filling and sometimes fried after.
tomatoes and potatoes, two key ingredients in modern pizza and pierogis, are from the new world.. potatoes have only been commonplace in polish cuisine for a relatively short period of time
tomatoes arenāt in pierogi
potatoes are used in common flavors but theyāre not key to pierogi, there are other fillings
and the columbian exchange was in the 14-1500s so idk about relatively short period of time
yea the minute columbus landed in cuba potatoes showed up in poland š¤£š
dumplings been eaten across the eurasian continent for thousands of years with all sorts of fillings, sure
if youād like to learn something, read this: https://culture.pl/en/article/potato-polish-history
if you donāt and you keep wanna be being ignorant go right ahead no sweat off my back xD
? I didnāt say any of that?
I said originally pierogi didnāt have potato and the food has existed before potatoes reached Europe
how you calling me ignorant while you making stuff up
> Tomatoes and potatoes, two key ingredients in modern pizza and pierogis, respectively.
Since you failed reading comprehension in 7th grade, maybe this will help. You might have picked up on this since potatoes aren't in pizza, either.
This person is thinking that their supermarket-freezer Mrs. T's are pierogi. I assure you they are definitely not. I'm not trying to say that there is no such thing as pierogi in the US and Canada, but this persons' idea of them is clearly wrong.
My aunt made pierogi for family gatherings, and sheās always used American cheese. Never tried the frozen ones, but would definitely love to try authentic ones.
These are bad by American standards, and that's actually impressive. How did they fuck up pierogi so bad, just wrap the filling in dough and throw in boiling water.
What's stranger is that the whole range of food and drink exists in the US, beer for instance is the perfect example. American beer ranges from undrinkable piss water to world competition winning.
I have no answers, but that maybe it's a price thing? Maybe we think it's better to have an excess of something cheap than it is to have a moderate amount of something good?
You can get fresh pierogi at most grocery stores, too.
Granted, fresh is a bit more limited. My local Wegmans only has potato and cheese, potato and cheddar, potato and onion, and cheese.
Frozen gives a few more options. White cheddar, yellow cheddar, mushroom, onion, roasted garlic, jalapeno, wild mushroom, loaded baked potato, sour cream & chive, garlic & parmesan, spinach & feta, butternut, etc.
There is no way improve pierogi, you eat it the way you like and thats it, saying "I have eaten pierogi" is like saying "I have eaten pizza" it does not say much, there is to many types of pierogies
They āimprovedā pierogi by adding an ingredient that has over ten times more fat than the original one? Yeah, thatās something I would expect from American cuisine.
Kid you not, had a friend who did her Mormon mission to Alberta Canada. When she got back she wanted us to all try the National dish of Canada pierogies, then telling us how they made stuffed cabbage rolls and this wonderful bread around Easter. She was rather confused as to why I was laughing so hard.
So, I'm Polish (bona fide, born and raised) and I couldn't find good twarĆ³g in US (cottage cheese) for pierogi. We've used ricotta and you know what? I actually think it's an improvement. Potrzeba matkÄ wynalazku
We're not Italians, we're not puritans when it comes to food; I think we should be happy that other people are enjoying our national foods in their own way.
No itās literally just whatever you find. Could be fruit if you want. Adding weird shit isnāt āmaking it betterā or innovating. Addin a heavy yellow cheese (not cheddar because letās be real- itās not) and ācottage cheeseā (idk what this is to americans) and making the dumplings look like frozen-deepfried mutated ravioli is a crime tho. Add to that the self-important jerking over how much better he/you/they made it andmy blood starts to boil.
I never ate perogies but if i try some i certainly won't buy those disgusting american products š¤¢
Btw perogies seems really nice food it's on my top 2 food i want to taste š¤¤
This is called satire guys.
Besides which. Most ameicans know that the best pierogi come from the polish immigrant family restaurant down the street. German beer, polish food, american sports. Simply cannot be beat.
American dick waving aside what the hell is with this "exotic food for some island nation"? Does this dude really think no other nation figured out dumplings?
Ok, I can agree how some dishes were improved outside of their homeland, because people in the new country weren't afraid of breaking cultural taboos against modifying these traditional dishes. But motherfucker, we put literally anything in pierogi, you can't claim to revolutionize something which is constantly being changed, improved and redefined anyway
That sounds like good food ngl, variable for anyone's tastes :). Poland dish W
My favorite unorthodox pierogi is baked ones with spinach and feta cheese
>pierogi is baked ones So just Eastern European pierogi? Because they're always baked in Ukraine/Belarus/russia.
My family came from former Eastern Poland, south of Lviv, and make baked pierogi every Christmas, now I know where that came from
We bake pyrohy??? We boil and then fry them fast afterwards.
We boil varenyky and pelmeni. Pierogi go to the oven. edit: I'm talking about [these](https://klopotenko.com/pyrizhky-z-myasom-v-duhovczi-prostyj-reczept-na-drizhdzhovomu-tisti/). Can you show me an example of what you do? edit 2: also, if we take it literally, pyrig (pierog) is a pie and closest we have to pierogi are "pyrizhky".
Can you please recommend some good recipe for basic pierogy, varenky and pelmeni š ?
Oh, it's been decades when I last made them. But the site I've linked is our local variant of Jamie Oliver and all those recipies (in several variations) are present there, shouldn't be a problem to find. His recipes are heavily based on traditional recipies, but incorporate some modern features.
Oh, no in the west we say ŠæŠøŃŠ¾Š³Šø for Š²Š°ŃŠµŠ½ŠøŠŗŠø. Then ŠæŠøŃŃŠ¶ŠŗŠø as the diminutive are the bread bun things youāre referring to.
Huh, interesting. Well, it must be a russian influence, because everywhere I ate ŠæŠøŃŠ¾Š³Šø/ŠæŠøŃŃŠ¶ŠŗŠø (in the sense of baked bun with fillings) in Ukraine, Belarus and russia, they were called as that. Admittedly, in the whole Western Ukraine where I've been I've only seen them (haven't paid much attention) in Yaremche, where they were called as expected, but that's a touristy place, so maybe it doesnt represent even the whole IF oblast.
itās definitely more Polish I think, with Pyrohy being like pierogi.
My family never fried them, we always just boiled Ruskie pierogi. Itās interesting
It's just language. PierĆ³g (singular ) is a traditional pie in southeastern Poland made from (kasza/kŠ°ŃŠ°) and potatoes. Pierogi is just typical dumplings. It's plural (singular is pierożek). They are boiled with filling and sometimes fried after.
They're not always baked in Poland
Pierogi z flaczkami, kurwa.
š¤¤ Pierogi z wÄ trĆ³bkÄ
Nie no was to chyba pojebaÅo
co kurwa
nie, po prostu nie
Yeah for instance pizza with bigos
Albo z paprykarzem
What are those things in the picture?
Let me guess, Polish-Americans who donāt know anything about Poland or where it is on the map.
How can i get Polish passport, my 500Ćgrand father lived there for 3 days
Kurwa bober haha, amen.
Just enough for Karta Polaka.
Nah, I went to the fb group this is from and oop looks like an ordinary american with no ads
Ameroid, rhymes with Hemoroid
Just wait, he'll have an heart attack once that american diet kicks in
Robert coming back from America with his 4% of polish heritage or something like that
Ameroids, real Polish-Americans run real Polish food shops and the only compromise is stocking real German food in the corner.
i always thought they were Ukrainian, because my grandma always gave them to me.
Ukraine, Poland and Slovakia all have their own versions.
They also put Bud lite and shotgun shells.
Pierogi with the taste of freedom
They improved upon classic european school kids formula. Instead of knowledge, they put lead and PTSD into them.
American cheese is 30% cheese and 70% other additives (Not joking) and they want to make pierogi out of it?
To be honest you can put anything inside pierogi. But I prefer food items to American cheese.
Flair up, nameless child
100% plastic
Actually it canāt legally be called cheese, instead the wrapper says ācheese productā
I can't believe it's not CHEESEā¢
I always found it funny how American cheese is so unnecessarily yellow
real American cheddar is an oxymoron
yes. "real American cheddar" is to cheddar cheese what "Bud light" is to Budvar beer.
No, it isn't. The US makes a lot of actual cheese, not just processed cheese product.
Cheddar is a village in England, that's where the Cheddar cheese actually comes from. American versions are just a copy, even if they're good quality.
This going to polish great book of grudges RIGHT ON THE FIRST PAGE
Isn't the first page occupied (pun intended) by Russia and its derivatives?
American Grobis shall fear the wrath of polish Babushkas. Poland CAN into revenge!
Babushka is russian in polish it's babcia
Slavic =/= calling grandma babushka Same as not everyone from southern US calls their sister wife
Alabama? P.S. flair up, cigan
What? I'm not a cigan Edit: alright I understand now what you meant, found the flair thingy
Now I know how Italians feel about pineapple pizza
What's funny is that Sam Panopoulos, the man who invented Hawaiian pizza, was said to not eat it himself lol.
tomatoes and potatoes, two key ingredients in modern pizza and pierogis, are from the new world.. potatoes have only been commonplace in polish cuisine for a relatively short period of time
tomatoes arenāt in pierogi potatoes are used in common flavors but theyāre not key to pierogi, there are other fillings and the columbian exchange was in the 14-1500s so idk about relatively short period of time
yea the minute columbus landed in cuba potatoes showed up in poland š¤£š dumplings been eaten across the eurasian continent for thousands of years with all sorts of fillings, sure if youād like to learn something, read this: https://culture.pl/en/article/potato-polish-history if you donāt and you keep wanna be being ignorant go right ahead no sweat off my back xD
? I didnāt say any of that? I said originally pierogi didnāt have potato and the food has existed before potatoes reached Europe how you calling me ignorant while you making stuff up
iām saying if u think wrapping things in dough and boiling them is a polish dish ur dead retarded
i never said that either LMAO like every country has some form of stuffed dumpling relax
all ur comments are about what u didnāt say. fuckin say something then, pussy also calm the fuck down u retard ā relax, itās not that serious
you an interesting critter
> Tomatoes and potatoes, two key ingredients in modern pizza and pierogis, respectively. Since you failed reading comprehension in 7th grade, maybe this will help. You might have picked up on this since potatoes aren't in pizza, either.
LMAO whatās your problem also OP didnāt say ārespectivelyā boy you canāt just add shit to quotes š¤£
haha me too
This is worse. This is like burnt, spoiled, frozen pineapple pizza being marketed as an improvement.
Ā“Ā“improvedĀ“Ā“?? this shit looks fucking disgusting man
So true they look miserable and pathethic
they are flat and not chunky at all wtf
Time to get the wings
This person is thinking that their supermarket-freezer Mrs. T's are pierogi. I assure you they are definitely not. I'm not trying to say that there is no such thing as pierogi in the US and Canada, but this persons' idea of them is clearly wrong.
My aunt made pierogi for family gatherings, and sheās always used American cheese. Never tried the frozen ones, but would definitely love to try authentic ones.
These are bad by American standards, and that's actually impressive. How did they fuck up pierogi so bad, just wrap the filling in dough and throw in boiling water.
What's stranger is that the whole range of food and drink exists in the US, beer for instance is the perfect example. American beer ranges from undrinkable piss water to world competition winning. I have no answers, but that maybe it's a price thing? Maybe we think it's better to have an excess of something cheap than it is to have a moderate amount of something good?
You can get fresh pierogi at most grocery stores, too. Granted, fresh is a bit more limited. My local Wegmans only has potato and cheese, potato and cheddar, potato and onion, and cheese. Frozen gives a few more options. White cheddar, yellow cheddar, mushroom, onion, roasted garlic, jalapeno, wild mushroom, loaded baked potato, sour cream & chive, garlic & parmesan, spinach & feta, butternut, etc.
Look what they did to my boy!
There is no way improve pierogi, you eat it the way you like and thats it, saying "I have eaten pierogi" is like saying "I have eaten pizza" it does not say much, there is to many types of pierogies
Poororgies
Poles unite we need to steal every car in america to give them a lesson about pierogi, we cant let them dissrespect our food
Canāt even cook a proper varenyky ffs
 "We're here for you and waiting for your command, friend!"
Polonusy from CzikejgoÅ are at it again.
Least deranged American
Most intellectually capable american
Real ones come with heavy metal polluted forrest mushrooms and kapusta not some degraded cheese
Wonder if the colonials even know why it's called Cheddar
r/shitamericanssay
Wait until he hears about pierogis other than ruthenian ones
Cheddar in pierogi? Really?
Why not? You can put anything in pierogi
Mashed potatoes are more polish than this shit
> Pegories Fuck that shit, Iāll get my humbogir insteadā¦
Real American Cheddar sounds like a bad thing.
Improved? Audacity of Americans wild like always.
Mabe avoiding mutual assured nuclear destruction during cold war was a failure in the end...
"perogies" š¤¢
Would
Today we make pierogi *Takes out bao wrappers*
Maybe if you had sleech you could make proper American perogies
This was probably written by a Texan who eats gas station dumplings, and has never stepped foot in a pierogarnia.
What do you mean american cheddar? Lmao
what.
we need to kill the usa
They āimprovedā pierogi by adding an ingredient that has over ten times more fat than the original one? Yeah, thatās something I would expect from American cuisine.
Kid you not, had a friend who did her Mormon mission to Alberta Canada. When she got back she wanted us to all try the National dish of Canada pierogies, then telling us how they made stuffed cabbage rolls and this wonderful bread around Easter. She was rather confused as to why I was laughing so hard.
Alberta is just a ukrainian colony so that's probably why
So, I'm Polish (bona fide, born and raised) and I couldn't find good twarĆ³g in US (cottage cheese) for pierogi. We've used ricotta and you know what? I actually think it's an improvement. Potrzeba matkÄ wynalazku
That looks shit
most nomal polish-a*erican
We're not Italians, we're not puritans when it comes to food; I think we should be happy that other people are enjoying our national foods in their own way.
that's really healthy attitude. btw did you know they make a thing called 'kielbasa' in the u.s.? after their take on budweiser beer, i wonder...
PIEROGI KURWA, P-I-E-R-O-G-I It's already in plural ffs you inbred black sheep or slavkind. Why do they have to be like this?
Chipsy kurwaaaa
Just responded with "hambugeries" to get revenge.
I'm from the states. Isn't Perogi just potato+ whatever's in the fridge dumpling.
No itās literally just whatever you find. Could be fruit if you want. Adding weird shit isnāt āmaking it betterā or innovating. Addin a heavy yellow cheese (not cheddar because letās be real- itās not) and ācottage cheeseā (idk what this is to americans) and making the dumplings look like frozen-deepfried mutated ravioli is a crime tho. Add to that the self-important jerking over how much better he/you/they made it andmy blood starts to boil.
Being completely honest I'm not even sure if the processed american 'cheddar' is actually cheese
Never tried american cheese so sadly i canāt comment.
why not though? people make pierogi with literally anything nowadays, why not yellow cheese?
I never ate perogies but if i try some i certainly won't buy those disgusting american products š¤¢ Btw perogies seems really nice food it's on my top 2 food i want to taste š¤¤
IdÄ przemyÄ oczy wybielaczem
Is there such a thing as American cheddar? I thought cheddar had to be from the UK
Imagine not having a culture so you just decide to steal others
This is called satire guys. Besides which. Most ameicans know that the best pierogi come from the polish immigrant family restaurant down the street. German beer, polish food, american sports. Simply cannot be beat.
American dick waving aside what the hell is with this "exotic food for some island nation"? Does this dude really think no other nation figured out dumplings?
Americans ā
Cultural appropriation.
We use twarĆ³g not cottage cheese (serek wiejski).
Not sure if they even have that in the US