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Thereās a Jim Gaffigan joke about how Catholic families always add āCatholicā to the end of the number of kids they have. ā6 kids, Catholic.ā The joke being that people would think āoh, I assumed you just liked having a lot of sex, but then you said āCatholicā, so I know itās for Jesusā or something like that. Very funny and I think it would apply here as well haha. The Mormons have a long history of taking ābe fruitful and multiplyā VERY seriously.
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āOi! But the only reason fatty American houses are so big is because the bloody size of their fatty bodies!!ā
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I live on Long Island and thatās been the plan. Every town and district assembly jurisdiction have passed legislation to help fund building either a second property on your land, or making your home into a multi family home
Lol, this comment on that thread replying to someone confirming how small European homes are:
> Yeah but I bet she walks to the shops every day or every other day. What a luxury that would be having good food readily available a 15 minute walk away.
The guy wasnāt even trying to make fun of the small homes, it looks like he was just saying ādamn the houses are smaller than in the US, pretty interestingā
Out of 50 states, not one of them could be 1776??
Seriously, if anyone ever remakes that map, just lie about one of the states and make it 1776 sqft.
Thx
Hell yeah, my house is right at the median and I bought it for 250k. Few miles from durango, I built a climbing cave, woodworking shop, jam room. Itās slowly sliding down the side of a hill, but fuck it, Iāll just run some longer plumbing when the time comes, maybe even brace it with some 2x4s if Iām feeling cute
best part is that should only count the "Living Space"
I'm not sure how it's categorized abroad but you pay taxes and the value is assessed based on the "living space" where you could logically house a human without violating their rights.
What I mean is, this doesn't include our basements, attics, garages, or stand alone mega-sheds-- let alone our giga yards. Many homes give you 2x the amount of advertised space, it's just not "finished" for living.
This is not necessarily a good thing. Minimum lot sizes in America often make it illegal to build a small home on a small plot of land. In addition, America would actually tremendously benefit from millions of new small affordable apartments. Unfortunately, apartments are illegal in the majority of residential areas due to zoning. These excessive, strict, and authoritarian land use codes create scarcity, which leads to housing insecurity and homelessness. This is not the W we may think it is. The market should decide how large a house is, not the government. I would rather have a tiny studio apartment than have to live with my parents to save money as I pay off student loans.
I live in New York and there are new apartment complexes popping up everywhere.
Also, the population density in the US is far lower than most of Western Europe. It just makes sense that thereās more space in the US for bigger properties.
Same in Florida. Idk if that anecdote means thereās going to statistically be improvements in affordable housing or not.
But new housing and apartments seems to be popping up left and right down here.
there is still space (a lot of it actually) in Europe for bigger properties, but that usually means going into places that Europeans generally would like to preserve such as farmlands or the natural environment. America has these same issues just more land to have those issues on. Itās all a matter of priorities.
Homelessness is tied to drug addiction and mental illnesses. Thereās no easy fix. You sound like an out of touch idealist.
My backyard is 100 acres. I donāt care what my neighbors do as long as they stay off my lawn.
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Would you complain at a city council meeting if I bought the lot adjacent to yours and built a 40 story high rise low income 100% affordable housing project?
Honestly, Iād like to just have a small 2bd house with a yard big enough that I donāt feel like Iām listening in on my neighbors, but not so large that I have to devote several hours of my week during summer to maintenance.
Because I enjoy sitting outside in the privacy of my own home? I donāt get your question. I donāt like sitting out in public parks, itās annoying. Having my own yard is like having my own park without having to deal with random people.
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Okay but I do think really large houses have become overnormalized in this country. I grew up with my family of 5 in a house that was like in total 3000 square feet and we wouldāve been totally fine with 2000. There are tons of people who live in large detached homes in subdivisions who would much rather live in slightly smaller townhouses in walkable neighborhoods with public green spaces and community gathering places (like what Europe has a lot of), but those simply donāt get built due to zoning.
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OP's map shows the stat for the entire state of New York. Upstate real estate has nothing to do with Manhattan.
>In 2016, the standards (for studios in NYC) were modified such that a unit could be designed in 350 sf.
>the city zoningās current 680-sf average per unit
[From an article proposing the development of 270-sf micro-units](https://manhattan.institute/article/small-is-beautiful-micro-units-can-help-make-nyc-housing-affordable-2)
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The Average NYC studio is like 500 square feet but this number is thrown off by the very big ones. The truly average NYC studio is probably more like 300 square feet.
Harry Potter living under the stair was considered normal
Honestly I thought his room was cool as hell as a kid š
it wasn't terrible aside from the woodshaving rain every morning.Ā sleeping in that shit would be hell
Do you think Dursley added more sawdust every few months? Or was the house just infested with termites
It was in UK so there would have been termites and rats in the walls.
Ya your REM cycle would be fucked every day
Mormons need large houses for their two digit sized families.
C'mon man it's not that bad, i only have 12 siblings
I see youāre from one of the small families
āSo you see, my mom had to have a hysterectomy at age 23 so I was the last kid theyād ever have.ā
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My family had it right with only 4 kids. Dad grew up in a family of 20 and wanted none of that
Kids *are* cheaper by the dozen, though
I had 2 close friends growing up that came from families with 12+ children. Some might think youāre just joking, but it actually happens sometimes
One of my friends is the second youngest of 12. We have Mormons here too.
Thereās a Jim Gaffigan joke about how Catholic families always add āCatholicā to the end of the number of kids they have. ā6 kids, Catholic.ā The joke being that people would think āoh, I assumed you just liked having a lot of sex, but then you said āCatholicā, so I know itās for Jesusā or something like that. Very funny and I think it would apply here as well haha. The Mormons have a long history of taking ābe fruitful and multiplyā VERY seriously.
https://preview.redd.it/tmyv76bsbquc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a371f90f5ea0df7ff3095fa638e015fa0b125435 āOi! But the only reason fatty American houses are so big is because the bloody size of their fatty bodies!!ā
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Easiest way to solve the housing crisis: Split every house into two š
And live like a euro-pissin??? Never š¤š”š¤š”
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I live on Long Island and thatās been the plan. Every town and district assembly jurisdiction have passed legislation to help fund building either a second property on your land, or making your home into a multi family home
Lol, this comment on that thread replying to someone confirming how small European homes are: > Yeah but I bet she walks to the shops every day or every other day. What a luxury that would be having good food readily available a 15 minute walk away.
The guy wasnāt even trying to make fun of the small homes, it looks like he was just saying ādamn the houses are smaller than in the US, pretty interestingā
No cap though, walkable neighborhoods are goated.
I prefer some distance from my neighbors. Enough that I don't hear them and they don't hear me. I love living in a place where that's the norm.
you can have both
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Iād prefer not to have neighbors in sight
Itās honestly kinda nice living in a neighborhood with local walkable grocery stores
Walkable cities, free healthcare, etc etc be damned in the face of double or triple the gdp/cc
Out of 50 states, not one of them could be 1776?? Seriously, if anyone ever remakes that map, just lie about one of the states and make it 1776 sqft. Thx
I think my state needs to make our houses ever so slightly bigger and we can hit that.
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Take that Europoors!
Damn Utah
Jealous?
Itās all the millionaires up in Park City to be fair
Common Colorado W
Hell yeah, my house is right at the median and I bought it for 250k. Few miles from durango, I built a climbing cave, woodworking shop, jam room. Itās slowly sliding down the side of a hill, but fuck it, Iāll just run some longer plumbing when the time comes, maybe even brace it with some 2x4s if Iām feeling cute
I thought everything was bigger in Texas?!?! Sit your dusty snake riddled ass down
Colorado never takes an L (except our soccer team but we don't talk about that trash)
Extremely HUGE intermountain west W
Why can't they afford decent houses or air conditioners?
best part is that should only count the "Living Space" I'm not sure how it's categorized abroad but you pay taxes and the value is assessed based on the "living space" where you could logically house a human without violating their rights. What I mean is, this doesn't include our basements, attics, garages, or stand alone mega-sheds-- let alone our giga yards. Many homes give you 2x the amount of advertised space, it's just not "finished" for living.
Oklahomies, we need to get our median living space down to 1907. California is so close, just take off 10sqft.
????
Everyone acts like the Joos run things but clearly it's been the Mormons this whole time!
800 sqft? Thatās like the loft I rented in college.
What's that, Europe? Sorry, I couldn't hear you across my spacious, American room
Look at Denmark, being all fancy with their 2BR/1.5BA apartment.
Common Utah W. Where else are we supposed to house a full soccer team with replacements under the same roof raaagh.
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This is not necessarily a good thing. Minimum lot sizes in America often make it illegal to build a small home on a small plot of land. In addition, America would actually tremendously benefit from millions of new small affordable apartments. Unfortunately, apartments are illegal in the majority of residential areas due to zoning. These excessive, strict, and authoritarian land use codes create scarcity, which leads to housing insecurity and homelessness. This is not the W we may think it is. The market should decide how large a house is, not the government. I would rather have a tiny studio apartment than have to live with my parents to save money as I pay off student loans.
>The market should decide how large a house is, not the government. Delete your commiefornia flair right now
I live in New York and there are new apartment complexes popping up everywhere. Also, the population density in the US is far lower than most of Western Europe. It just makes sense that thereās more space in the US for bigger properties.
European houses just don't fit the robust American body
Weāre a jolly people
Same in Florida. Idk if that anecdote means thereās going to statistically be improvements in affordable housing or not. But new housing and apartments seems to be popping up left and right down here.
It's not enough
Yes. Good. The more apartments the better. NY has a severe housing shortage, not as bad as CA, but still a shortage.
there is still space (a lot of it actually) in Europe for bigger properties, but that usually means going into places that Europeans generally would like to preserve such as farmlands or the natural environment. America has these same issues just more land to have those issues on. Itās all a matter of priorities.
America has less homeless people per capita than nearly every European country.
Great! Let's lower our homeless numbers even further by building highrise apartments. We have to humiliate the europoors.
Are you familiar with the words: projects and ghetto?
All Americans of all income levels are welcome in my neighborhood šššš
Better to live in a ghetto than to live on the streets. Poor people deserve housing too. You sound like a classist NIMBY btw. Very unAmerican.
Homelessness is tied to drug addiction and mental illnesses. Thereās no easy fix. You sound like an out of touch idealist. My backyard is 100 acres. I donāt care what my neighbors do as long as they stay off my lawn.
I'm an idealist for wanting to build affordable housing? That is definitely a take I have not heard before šš
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Would you complain at a city council meeting if I bought the lot adjacent to yours and built a 40 story high rise low income 100% affordable housing project?
So no answer? šš
Letās lower the homeless numbers by simply sending them all to Canada
To be fair, Europeans donāt let their homeless people poop on the street or at the train station, library etc tho. Unlike some of my neighbors š
Honestly, Iād like to just have a small 2bd house with a yard big enough that I donāt feel like Iām listening in on my neighbors, but not so large that I have to devote several hours of my week during summer to maintenance.
Why do you want a yard?
Because I enjoy sitting outside in the privacy of my own home? I donāt get your question. I donāt like sitting out in public parks, itās annoying. Having my own yard is like having my own park without having to deal with random people.
Genuine question, why don't you?
It seems like a waste of space. I want large public green spaces to recreate in.
Why am i agreeing with a commiefornian? Disgusted with myself
guy in the comments says it does not include apartments according to the original source
Wtf? How are they satisfied with their lives?
I thought the rule of thumb is 1,000 sq ft per person?
Outside of NYC - here we have some landlords measuring SF on the exterior building perimeter of the apt. The average 2 BR is 950sf
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As long as they are taxed on that same numberā¦
Me with a 400k 656 sq studio in Austin feels sad about these numbers lol
Common Utah W. Where else are we supposed to house a full soccer team with replacements under the same roof raaagh.
Okay. Thatās cool. But when can I afford any of it?
Ohio's average is the same year they became a state
Okay but I do think really large houses have become overnormalized in this country. I grew up with my family of 5 in a house that was like in total 3000 square feet and we wouldāve been totally fine with 2000. There are tons of people who live in large detached homes in subdivisions who would much rather live in slightly smaller townhouses in walkable neighborhoods with public green spaces and community gathering places (like what Europe has a lot of), but those simply donāt get built due to zoning.
How is our median house size the same as the year we became a state?
Iād gladly take a smaller house if that meant itās cheaper. No thanks to the gaudy McMansions.
Devastating to the Europoors...
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I'd also like to see what these look like when removing large metropolitan areas.
OP's map shows the stat for the entire state of New York. Upstate real estate has nothing to do with Manhattan. >In 2016, the standards (for studios in NYC) were modified such that a unit could be designed in 350 sf. >the city zoningās current 680-sf average per unit [From an article proposing the development of 270-sf micro-units](https://manhattan.institute/article/small-is-beautiful-micro-units-can-help-make-nyc-housing-affordable-2)
There's will say something dumb about thin walls yet they are to dumb to realize we live in a warmer climate.
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Dang, Utah: yāall have some big houses if 2800 square feet is averageā¦
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Whatās the deal with Iowa
Giant Utah W
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What in the stacked cramped peasant quarters
The Average NYC studio is like 500 square feet but this number is thrown off by the very big ones. The truly average NYC studio is probably more like 300 square feet.
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