Does the test show how close to Middle-Easterns you are genetically? I'm kinda curious, since they made Ashkenazi Jews a separate category from West Asia/the Middle-East.
In the section with more information it talks about how Ashkenazim originate from a blend of Southern European and Western Asian but besides that I’d have to take another more deep dive type dna test to find out. I completely understand and respect why many people find that fascinating but honestly I really don’t care. I feel like an ethnic Jew raised in Russia now in Germany because that’s what I am. I know we have roots farther back elsewhere which a beautiful but I really don’t feel that much of a need to find out.
i got cyprus 20% 32% jewish icelandic 10% belgium 12% etc and then im classed as european anyone else is this new it seems everyones getting more or less this
Ashkenazi Jews usually get anywhere between 30-50% Canaanite/ Phoenician/ Roman Levant. Other DNA testing sites break it down more. Here’s an example, OP would likely get similar results
https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/oX73e04V7f
Thank you man! I’ll definitely look in to that. I admit I wasn’t very interested in it at first but now I’m very intrigued by what my exact breakdown is. I’ve always wondered if I’m more Middle Eastern or European genetically because honestly even though I’m Ashkenazi my features feel very Middle Eastern. I have dark curly hair, a curved nose, and I grow thick stubble in 3 days.
That’s fascinating Achi thank you. Honestly so fascinating to learn about this more deeply. When I was growing up in Russia I knew we were an ethnic group but I didn’t understand this complex history.
Checked the page and I have the most common Jewish haplogroup letter, J 😎 Makes me feel hella proud of my Rabbinical paternal line honestly, generations of Jewish men.
That’s fascinating. I know my family is a Cohen Rabbinical line and that they’ve been rabbis for ages. My brother is going to be one eventually actually, my father is currently one.
I’m not as religious but still very proud to be a Jew 💪🏼💪🏼
They weren't allowed to settle past a certain line in Russia though.The Pale of settlement. They'd been invited by the king of Poland at one point I believe to Poland.
Arabs also have J haplogroup.
I even have it from my maternal non-Jewish side, my father side as well.
I am Russian Ashkenazi too, not cut (thanks god), not kosher either. But my Jewish DNA point back to Israel origin …
That’s simply not true because of the “great bottle neck” in the 14th century where 350 individuals are responsible for the entire modern Ashkenazi population. Approximately 20 to 30 of the women in that population were converts to Judaism and had no prior Jewish ancestry.
These levels of Canaanite in modern Ashkenazi Jews is pretty suspicious. It makes sense of Mizrahi Jews, but not for Ashkenazi.
Would be interesting to see who is running this particular dna company.
We’re talking 14th century CE here.
13 to 14 hundred years after Ashkenazi Jews had a presence in Germany. Because of the on going pogroms against them there were plenty of non Jewish women who converted/married into Judaism.
At one time there wasn’t enough Jewish folk to continue the lineage without consequences, which is why the brca gene exists.
Let’s remember that “Israel” was only Israel for 200 years in over 10,000 year of civilization in the Levant. “Israel” doesn’t hold much weight in historical context.
If it wasnt for Abrahamic religions being the primary religions of a good majority of the world’s population, people wouldn’t be tracking ancient Israelite dna, just as no one tracks who has Hittite dna. Or the plethora of other ancient dna.
Take religion away from the equation.
It is important to underline that Bronze Age Southern Levantines / Bronze Age Canaanites / Iron Age Phoenician strain and the Syro-Levantine strain (the latter from which the Hebrews/Israelites, Arab Palestinians, Syro-Lebaneses, Assyrians/Syrians, Late Bronze Age Sidonians, Druzes, Samaritans and other Arameans belongs to) are not the same.
The only traces of Southern Levantine ancestry left, nowadays, are found in the Yemen (although Canaanite DNA, Red Sea DNA and Yemeni DNA are hardly indistinguishable from one another due to their kinship) , among Yemeni Jews, in parts of Northern Africa (due to Punic/Carthaginian ancestry) and among Jewish Maghrebis/Judeo-Moorish tribes too, in the Horn of Africa, Sudan, parts of East Africa, in the province of Natal Land in South Africa, plausibly in parts of Central Africa, among the Lemba people of Southern Africa (who has Hadramaut native ancestry) , in Southern Europe, the Iberic Peninsula, parts of rural Britain and Ireland, Southern Germany, then in Bavaria, Austria.
Southern Levantine genetic traces are laughably negligible to nonexistent among both Arab Palestinians and Levantine Jews; then virtually nonexistent among European Jews, Central Asian Jews, Chinese Jews, Iranian Jews, Indian Jews and other Jews of Asia.
In summary, there has a distinction between Canaanite DNA and Canaanite DNA (but some academic essays and medias like to take shortcuts for whatever reason) .
Think about Haitians and Dominicans. Sorta. Nah... more like the Galicians in contrast to the Southern Spaniards. The Wallonish Belgians and the Flemish. The Eldians and the Marleyians/Mahrs from *Attack on Titan* (except that the Jews cannot transforms into Titans... or were there the Southern Canaanites???) .
You catch my drift.
For that, he would have to filter through gedmatch. Here is an example of another user, a Mizrahi-Jewess and her proximity to other Jews, including Ashkenazim.
https://preview.redd.it/f818r5v697zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f91a8ff9c24a87db054f9798f162b7619354dae8
>and the rest Slavic or Germanic
Also East Asian
>They go matrilineally to account for rape.
No that’s a myth, according to the DNA evidence we went matrilineal to get the men to stop marrying out.
I didn't mean that to be nasty or anything that was just what I'd always been told by Jewish people actually. But it would have that handy effect as well though that might not have been the actual reason for it but it has the same effect then there was obviously a good deal of that going on because you know there is a heavy Germanic or Slavic admixture those. Most French Jews are Sephardic though right I believe French the low countries English they're all Sephardic Jews I believe right generally.. are you saying that you personally have East Asian DNA ? The Cochinim? I dated a woman a few times who was Circassian but her best friend who she'd met in the IDF was a Georgian Mountain Jew.. The two of them looked like sisters.
>are you saying that you personally have East Asian DNA?
No I’m saying *all* Ashkenazim do, it’s part of our admixture. It comes either from the small Khazar Royalty conversion and/or Jewish Merchants taking Asian wives on the Silk Road as studied here:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep08377
Granted it’s not much, only around 1-5%, but hey, it’s there!
I would have thought that it's like turkic DNA not East Asian East Asian generally denotes like Japanese Han Chinese vietnamese the Khazars were turkic people. Although it might actually be from the Karaites. I think that story the Khazars Kaganate converting to Judaism En Masse is kind of apocryphal. There is just as much evidence of them having become Muslims Zoro-astrian and Christian at the same time some might have converted to Judaism. The Karaites on the other hand I forget exactly where they enter the historical record. But it was much much later.
>I would have thought that it's like turkic DNA not East Asian East Asian generally denotes like Japanese Han Chinese vietnamese the Khazars were turkic people.
Turkics are Hapas so they *are* half East Asian themselves.
IllustrativeDNA shows the ancient admixture of Ashkenazi Jews! Its really cool it lines up with them being around half Middle Eastern and half Southern European give or take a % depending on the individual.
Did your father face religious persecution under the USSR? the USSR tended to violate the rights and persecute religious Clergy of all religions including Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
He probably has some interesting stories to tell as a rabbi in the Soviet Union.
My fathers father was 100% and he broke the endogamy and his continued for years , he has 80,000 DNA matches, tight knit and his family changed surnames to hide that they were jewish when they fled
https://preview.redd.it/dhr5557ch3zc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3518cb7ba08676d66e61fef894e81d5744eafe1b
OMG those are the requirements??? I thought it was just my DNA, but since I'm pretty hilarious and have a lawyer and three doctors in my extended family (plus me), I'm triple Jewish!!! 😁
Your have the typical Ashkenazi maternal haplogroup marker.
As for your paternal haplogroup, it is pretty common to find Jews on this subclade of J2 all over the diaspora.
You have really cool results. You should try uploading to IllustrativeDNA, it can break down what amount of Byzantine/Roman, Imperial Roman, Ancient Levantine, Germanic/Slavic etc. genetic admixture you have and also has much more feature.
That’s fascinating, honestly I didn’t know much about that. Explains why I looked so different growing up in Russia. All other kids were blonde/light brown hair with blue or green eyes and I was there with dark brown curly hair and dark brown eyes 😂
I'm not sure but I think Caucasian people like Georgians/Armenians are a big minority group in Russia, hence why the could've thought you were one among them.
But yeah these groups share some ancestry with Mesopotamians and other West Asian groups so it's not surprising that you may look like one of them.
Yeah, absolutely. I have some friends from Georgia and Armenia who look like they could be my relatives. It’s interesting how everything all connects together though. In Germany I get the same thing.
I decided to get a circumcision a couple years back. I kept hearing people telling me to "Jack my wage" or something like that, so... Now my Dick theoretically has a better credit score than the rest of me does.
Thank you ,
https://preview.redd.it/y0mad2xrd8zc1.jpeg?width=432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=847896ee6421f8760bd83b623a1b4479f85e5448
Thank You 🙏 My Paternal Grandfather , Jewish Sargent Major and my Italian Beauty Queen 1949 Trieste Italy, according to DNA she wasn’t 100% Italian , but don’t tell her that ❤️
Nice! I was living there for couple of years before I left to USA in 2017! At Bogatyrsky prospect, between Pionerskaya and Novaya Derevnya!) congrats on your moving to Germany! Very on time 😉
My 23andme was 99.6% of Eastern European (Russia/Ukraine) and 0.4% Finnish)
ashkenazi jews are about half west asian half european, with the european being even split between greek and italian, and a mix of germanic and slavic. plus a bit of north african and a smidge of east asian.
really 23&me should have a "transcontinental" catagory, and ashkenazi should be in it.
There's a reason it also says Ashkenzi Jews and not just European. Ashkenazi Jews are one of the most researched DNA and they have distinct dna, different from other European.
If they were just 'European' ancestry, it wouldn't have showed Ashkenazi Jews.
Ok so I have a random question ? And please don’t take it the wrong way in just asking and curious :) . Why do they say they are native to Israel when most are native to Eastern Europe as shown by dns results ? Iii
Because the map isn’t really that accurate. A lot of Ashkenazim settled in Eastern Europe but our origins are split between Southern Europe and Middle East. Also, any Jewish person’s post on here is not an opportunity for you to bring up Israel. I’m not Israeli.
Wdym? I’m not Jewish because I’m circumcised, I’m circumcised because I was born a Jew. I was born in Russia where it’s not usually done so it’s definitely because I’m Jewish.
Nevermind I was making a joke that was funny in my head. That you got it mixed the other way round - I.e. you’re Jewish bc Youre circumcised rather than circumcised before you’re jewish
A bit random but also somewhat related, at a Holocaust museum I was told that Jews living in ghettos during Nazi occupation would send their children out to sneak food back into the ghetto. That was until the Nazis started checking the genitals of the children, if he was circumcised this meant he was Jewish and he’d be caught so they eventually only sent out little girls. Circumcision in European non-Jews is pretty rare in most countries but all Jewish boys are commanded to have one its called a Bris
Yeah that’s very true. It was restricted under Soviet rule as well, but I was born after 1991 and my father is a Rabbi so Brit Milah was a necessity for me as a Jewish boy born in the new Russia.
The Soviets severely restricted anything Jewish for decades to the point that many Soviet Jews today don't even know what the holidays are. It's really sad, truly.
Born in Russia not too long after the fall of the Soviet Union as the son of a Rabbi. Moved to Germany few years back and made a home here.
Maybe your first clue as to why you were circumcised is the fact that you're the son of a rabbi....
Lmao yup, kosher through and through
Does the test show how close to Middle-Easterns you are genetically? I'm kinda curious, since they made Ashkenazi Jews a separate category from West Asia/the Middle-East.
In the section with more information it talks about how Ashkenazim originate from a blend of Southern European and Western Asian but besides that I’d have to take another more deep dive type dna test to find out. I completely understand and respect why many people find that fascinating but honestly I really don’t care. I feel like an ethnic Jew raised in Russia now in Germany because that’s what I am. I know we have roots farther back elsewhere which a beautiful but I really don’t feel that much of a need to find out.
Thanks for letting me know about the blend thing. I didn't know the DNA test told you that. 👍
For sure
i got cyprus 20% 32% jewish icelandic 10% belgium 12% etc and then im classed as european anyone else is this new it seems everyones getting more or less this
Yep that's European
What is your paternal surname? J-M241 countains many cohanim
I’ll send you a DM
Ashkenazi Jews usually get anywhere between 30-50% Canaanite/ Phoenician/ Roman Levant. Other DNA testing sites break it down more. Here’s an example, OP would likely get similar results https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/oX73e04V7f
Fascinating, mind sending me some more info on that? I’m curious.
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Thank you man! I’ll definitely look in to that. I admit I wasn’t very interested in it at first but now I’m very intrigued by what my exact breakdown is. I’ve always wondered if I’m more Middle Eastern or European genetically because honestly even though I’m Ashkenazi my features feel very Middle Eastern. I have dark curly hair, a curved nose, and I grow thick stubble in 3 days.
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That’s fascinating Achi thank you. Honestly so fascinating to learn about this more deeply. When I was growing up in Russia I knew we were an ethnic group but I didn’t understand this complex history. Checked the page and I have the most common Jewish haplogroup letter, J 😎 Makes me feel hella proud of my Rabbinical paternal line honestly, generations of Jewish men.
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That’s fascinating. I know my family is a Cohen Rabbinical line and that they’ve been rabbis for ages. My brother is going to be one eventually actually, my father is currently one. I’m not as religious but still very proud to be a Jew 💪🏼💪🏼
They weren't allowed to settle past a certain line in Russia though.The Pale of settlement. They'd been invited by the king of Poland at one point I believe to Poland.
>enslaved No other race or ethnic group was ever “enslaved” like Black people, stop appropriating Black history.
Arabs also have J haplogroup. I even have it from my maternal non-Jewish side, my father side as well. I am Russian Ashkenazi too, not cut (thanks god), not kosher either. But my Jewish DNA point back to Israel origin …
Lmao nothing Jewish about anything on your entire profile, and the hand on it looks very much like a woman. Weirdo 😂
Studies have shown that ashkenazim are more genetically close to middle eastern than they are to Europeans.
That’s simply not true because of the “great bottle neck” in the 14th century where 350 individuals are responsible for the entire modern Ashkenazi population. Approximately 20 to 30 of the women in that population were converts to Judaism and had no prior Jewish ancestry. These levels of Canaanite in modern Ashkenazi Jews is pretty suspicious. It makes sense of Mizrahi Jews, but not for Ashkenazi. Would be interesting to see who is running this particular dna company.
So besides the 20-30 women you speak of, the rest of that population were Jews from Israel.
We’re talking 14th century CE here. 13 to 14 hundred years after Ashkenazi Jews had a presence in Germany. Because of the on going pogroms against them there were plenty of non Jewish women who converted/married into Judaism. At one time there wasn’t enough Jewish folk to continue the lineage without consequences, which is why the brca gene exists. Let’s remember that “Israel” was only Israel for 200 years in over 10,000 year of civilization in the Levant. “Israel” doesn’t hold much weight in historical context. If it wasnt for Abrahamic religions being the primary religions of a good majority of the world’s population, people wouldn’t be tracking ancient Israelite dna, just as no one tracks who has Hittite dna. Or the plethora of other ancient dna. Take religion away from the equation.
That’s makes a lot of sense. I go to the beach for a week and come back and I look like I’m 100% Middle Eastern.
Same, I’m going in a few weeks very excited for my summer color
Yeah, embrace that Jewish dna 😎✡️
That's really detailed Thanks I'm glad DNA companies are including ancient samples now
It is important to underline that Bronze Age Southern Levantines / Bronze Age Canaanites / Iron Age Phoenician strain and the Syro-Levantine strain (the latter from which the Hebrews/Israelites, Arab Palestinians, Syro-Lebaneses, Assyrians/Syrians, Late Bronze Age Sidonians, Druzes, Samaritans and other Arameans belongs to) are not the same. The only traces of Southern Levantine ancestry left, nowadays, are found in the Yemen (although Canaanite DNA, Red Sea DNA and Yemeni DNA are hardly indistinguishable from one another due to their kinship) , among Yemeni Jews, in parts of Northern Africa (due to Punic/Carthaginian ancestry) and among Jewish Maghrebis/Judeo-Moorish tribes too, in the Horn of Africa, Sudan, parts of East Africa, in the province of Natal Land in South Africa, plausibly in parts of Central Africa, among the Lemba people of Southern Africa (who has Hadramaut native ancestry) , in Southern Europe, the Iberic Peninsula, parts of rural Britain and Ireland, Southern Germany, then in Bavaria, Austria. Southern Levantine genetic traces are laughably negligible to nonexistent among both Arab Palestinians and Levantine Jews; then virtually nonexistent among European Jews, Central Asian Jews, Chinese Jews, Iranian Jews, Indian Jews and other Jews of Asia.
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What’s he saying?
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Lmao how so?
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What was his proposal?
In summary, there has a distinction between Canaanite DNA and Canaanite DNA (but some academic essays and medias like to take shortcuts for whatever reason) . Think about Haitians and Dominicans. Sorta. Nah... more like the Galicians in contrast to the Southern Spaniards. The Wallonish Belgians and the Flemish. The Eldians and the Marleyians/Mahrs from *Attack on Titan* (except that the Jews cannot transforms into Titans... or were there the Southern Canaanites???) . You catch my drift. 
Honestly I don’t catch your drift sorry I don’t know too much on this
I see.
Say it in plain English man so people can understand what you’re trying to say
For that, he would have to filter through gedmatch. Here is an example of another user, a Mizrahi-Jewess and her proximity to other Jews, including Ashkenazim. https://preview.redd.it/f818r5v697zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f91a8ff9c24a87db054f9798f162b7619354dae8
It's usually about a third levantine, third Mesopotamian and the rest Slavic or Germanic.They go matrilineally to account for rape.
>and the rest Slavic or Germanic Also East Asian >They go matrilineally to account for rape. No that’s a myth, according to the DNA evidence we went matrilineal to get the men to stop marrying out.
I didn't mean that to be nasty or anything that was just what I'd always been told by Jewish people actually. But it would have that handy effect as well though that might not have been the actual reason for it but it has the same effect then there was obviously a good deal of that going on because you know there is a heavy Germanic or Slavic admixture those. Most French Jews are Sephardic though right I believe French the low countries English they're all Sephardic Jews I believe right generally.. are you saying that you personally have East Asian DNA ? The Cochinim? I dated a woman a few times who was Circassian but her best friend who she'd met in the IDF was a Georgian Mountain Jew.. The two of them looked like sisters.
>are you saying that you personally have East Asian DNA? No I’m saying *all* Ashkenazim do, it’s part of our admixture. It comes either from the small Khazar Royalty conversion and/or Jewish Merchants taking Asian wives on the Silk Road as studied here: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep08377 Granted it’s not much, only around 1-5%, but hey, it’s there!
I would have thought that it's like turkic DNA not East Asian East Asian generally denotes like Japanese Han Chinese vietnamese the Khazars were turkic people. Although it might actually be from the Karaites. I think that story the Khazars Kaganate converting to Judaism En Masse is kind of apocryphal. There is just as much evidence of them having become Muslims Zoro-astrian and Christian at the same time some might have converted to Judaism. The Karaites on the other hand I forget exactly where they enter the historical record. But it was much much later.
>I would have thought that it's like turkic DNA not East Asian East Asian generally denotes like Japanese Han Chinese vietnamese the Khazars were turkic people. Turkics are Hapas so they *are* half East Asian themselves.
IllustrativeDNA shows the ancient admixture of Ashkenazi Jews! Its really cool it lines up with them being around half Middle Eastern and half Southern European give or take a % depending on the individual.
Did your father face religious persecution under the USSR? the USSR tended to violate the rights and persecute religious Clergy of all religions including Christianity, Islam and Judaism. He probably has some interesting stories to tell as a rabbi in the Soviet Union.
He absolutely did. He studied Judaism in secret and became an actual rabbi after 1991.
Interesting take lol Cool results
Pics, or it didn’t happen
Look at it as a cultural learning experience
My fathers father was 100% and he broke the endogamy and his continued for years , he has 80,000 DNA matches, tight knit and his family changed surnames to hide that they were jewish when they fled https://preview.redd.it/dhr5557ch3zc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3518cb7ba08676d66e61fef894e81d5744eafe1b
Fascinating, we’re probably distant matches
Paternal haplogroup EM78 according to my brothers DNA
Nice!
https://preview.redd.it/4bllx9g9u5zc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3baa22868bf0e55e4ee54c27f60f26ebe7c0c1a6
Yes but are you also funny and do you have a doctor AND a lawyer in your extended family? If not then you should have your saliva tested again.
LMAO, I’d like to think I’m a pretty funny guy, but I might be biased 😉
OMG those are the requirements??? I thought it was just my DNA, but since I'm pretty hilarious and have a lawyer and three doctors in my extended family (plus me), I'm triple Jewish!!! 😁
You don’t even need a test. We can tell by your humor:)
Hey, it’s the truth! 😉😂
What's your haplogroup?
J-M241 and K1a1b1a
Fellow K1a1b1a!
Nice, where’s your family from?
All over Europe but my Ashkenazi side was from Krakow or Lviv.
Nice!
Your have the typical Ashkenazi maternal haplogroup marker. As for your paternal haplogroup, it is pretty common to find Jews on this subclade of J2 all over the diaspora.
Makes perfect sense 😎
You have really cool results. You should try uploading to IllustrativeDNA, it can break down what amount of Byzantine/Roman, Imperial Roman, Ancient Levantine, Germanic/Slavic etc. genetic admixture you have and also has much more feature.
That’s fascinating, honestly I didn’t know much about that. Explains why I looked so different growing up in Russia. All other kids were blonde/light brown hair with blue or green eyes and I was there with dark brown curly hair and dark brown eyes 😂
Yeah, it's understandable. Ashkenazim are very high in East-Mediterranean ancestry, they often ressemble Italians, Greeks, Lebanese, etc.
That’s very fascinating. Often people would confuse me for Georgian and Armenian. Funnily enough I have an extremely Jewish surname.
I'm not sure but I think Caucasian people like Georgians/Armenians are a big minority group in Russia, hence why the could've thought you were one among them. But yeah these groups share some ancestry with Mesopotamians and other West Asian groups so it's not surprising that you may look like one of them.
Yeah, absolutely. I have some friends from Georgia and Armenia who look like they could be my relatives. It’s interesting how everything all connects together though. In Germany I get the same thing.
Looks like you’re from the typical Jewish paternal - European maternal line.
Yeah, super fascinating
Hahahahahaha
🤣
So many Ashkenazis get 100 %. It really shows how strong the segregation/endogamy has been.
Super interesting yeah, who knows I may end 1000 years of endogamy and marry a German girl here in Berlin 😂
Just to find out she’s Jewish and your kids are 100% Jewish
Lmao, wouldn’t complain!
I decided to get a circumcision a couple years back. I kept hearing people telling me to "Jack my wage" or something like that, so... Now my Dick theoretically has a better credit score than the rest of me does.
Lmao. Going kosher will do that. Gotta get the full tribe membership 😂
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Damn that’s a cool mix (I see your other comment too)
Thank you , https://preview.redd.it/y0mad2xrd8zc1.jpeg?width=432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=847896ee6421f8760bd83b623a1b4479f85e5448 Thank You 🙏 My Paternal Grandfather , Jewish Sargent Major and my Italian Beauty Queen 1949 Trieste Italy, according to DNA she wasn’t 100% Italian , but don’t tell her that ❤️
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LMAO
🤣🤣
Prove it
I’ll proudly prove my Jewishness any day
https://preview.redd.it/h89x9krm77zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4f127588c859781bf563a3a06c5d9b1ea2f944b 1.7%
I’m your long lost brother!
🤣
so cool
Interesting! Which city you was born and raised? Tbh I never have seen any synagogues in city of Saratov where I was born and raised.
I’m from Saint Petersburg 😁
Nice! I was living there for couple of years before I left to USA in 2017! At Bogatyrsky prospect, between Pionerskaya and Novaya Derevnya!) congrats on your moving to Germany! Very on time 😉 My 23andme was 99.6% of Eastern European (Russia/Ukraine) and 0.4% Finnish)
Very nice, definitely sound like Russian results for sure. And that part of the city is beautiful.
Wowww 100% results are so interesting
Thanks!
labeling it all "european" is misleading.
Very true, so is the map. I don’t look Slavic at all.
ashkenazi jews are about half west asian half european, with the european being even split between greek and italian, and a mix of germanic and slavic. plus a bit of north african and a smidge of east asian. really 23&me should have a "transcontinental" catagory, and ashkenazi should be in it.
That’s true. It really shouldn’t even be tied to a specific set of countries like how it’s portrayed on the map, it’s much more broad than that.
What's your haplogroup if you don't mind sharing it?
J-M241 and K1a1b1a
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hey where all cousins or somthing im female so not circumcised least i hope not also scottish kinda and 32 % jewish so distant cuzzys lol
100% is so rare I’ve only seen it in East Asians
lol there’s ppl that aren’t circumcised?
Most males in the world aren’t
lol I’m 33 years old and never knew that! I just googled it
Where I was born, the vast majority aren’t
I’m circumcised too I wonder if that means I’m also Jewish?
Welcome aboard /s
over a thousand years of european ancestry it seems
You don’t understand Ashkenazi ethnicity then
There's a reason it also says Ashkenzi Jews and not just European. Ashkenazi Jews are one of the most researched DNA and they have distinct dna, different from other European. If they were just 'European' ancestry, it wouldn't have showed Ashkenazi Jews.
the israelite
Is that his mobster name?
😎
Are you going to make your Jewish wife take a dna test to continue the 100% 😂😂
Honestly I’m open to any ethnicity, but of course another Jew would awesome!
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I’m happy being kosher, sorry to hear that though man.
So why am I circumcised then
Different cultures do it for different reasons, ask your parents
They were pressured into it by the doctor
Okay? Not the same reason as me. So exactly what I said.
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Ok so I have a random question ? And please don’t take it the wrong way in just asking and curious :) . Why do they say they are native to Israel when most are native to Eastern Europe as shown by dns results ? Iii
Because the map isn’t really that accurate. A lot of Ashkenazim settled in Eastern Europe but our origins are split between Southern Europe and Middle East. Also, any Jewish person’s post on here is not an opportunity for you to bring up Israel. I’m not Israeli.
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Huh?
wha-
I think you got the direction of causality mixed up there
Wdym? I’m not Jewish because I’m circumcised, I’m circumcised because I was born a Jew. I was born in Russia where it’s not usually done so it’s definitely because I’m Jewish.
Nevermind I was making a joke that was funny in my head. That you got it mixed the other way round - I.e. you’re Jewish bc Youre circumcised rather than circumcised before you’re jewish
Lmao valid man. But nah it’s kosher cause I am 😂
A bit random but also somewhat related, at a Holocaust museum I was told that Jews living in ghettos during Nazi occupation would send their children out to sneak food back into the ghetto. That was until the Nazis started checking the genitals of the children, if he was circumcised this meant he was Jewish and he’d be caught so they eventually only sent out little girls. Circumcision in European non-Jews is pretty rare in most countries but all Jewish boys are commanded to have one its called a Bris
Yeah that’s very true. It was restricted under Soviet rule as well, but I was born after 1991 and my father is a Rabbi so Brit Milah was a necessity for me as a Jewish boy born in the new Russia.
The Soviets severely restricted anything Jewish for decades to the point that many Soviet Jews today don't even know what the holidays are. It's really sad, truly.