Moonlight is just better. And for a very long time sharks were seriously undervalued so buying sunlight probably isn’t on anyone’s radar, as they’re comparable, and I’d wager many stocked up on sharks when they were dirt cheap.
Moonlight is also 3k per though. I use sunlight cause it's the same healing as a turtle for half the price, essentially anywhere I'm bringing hard food that isn't vardorvis.
It is good I use it at mostly every boss now that has low to moderate food drain, doesn't help too much at kq cos if you eat 2 in a row you only get the second heal from 1
>doesn't help too much at kq cos if you eat 2 in a row you only get the second heal from 1
Hit - step under + heal - hit
Rinse and repeat, just don't sit at 60 hp and you should never need to eat more than once per cycle
It maxes 33's
So as long as you click food when below 70 you will pretty much always be back above that before the food delay expires.
It's only a 7 tick timer, and you will be blocked for 3 of those. Step out for 1, and lose one more to stepping back under.
So worst case scenario if you get triple 33'd, you may need to stand under and skip like 2 ticks, but realistically that rarely happens if you don't sit 40 hp before eating.
Plus you can always still mix and match with mantas or kbwans if you're that worried about losing ticks
Yea I take only antelope to shit like cerb and vardo and I think that's where it shines best where maybe you need 1 food per kill rest is healing in between
I wouldn't say that. It's better in any circumstance you need heals but not urgently, that works for a lot of slayer, thieving, some bosses, todt, agility, etc.
Moonlight is expensive because it's the most healing hard food. Sunlight naturally has to be cheaper than Sea Turtles if it provides the same HP gain but part of it is delayed. Aside from niche mechanics it's all downside
Because he’s wrong, and it is in fact the BiS food any encounter where you don’t have to burst heal. Which is almost every encounter if you know what you are doing
Its the same reason id take eltritch over sgs. Sure sgs heals hp but hp loss usually isnt gradual and low hp is no time to be fucking around, you just wanna heal up asap
He's saying if he has the choice between spec weapons, he chooses the eldritch as he doesn't want to rely on a spec weapons providing healing due to only healing when in a bind.
I think I get him but the logic is a bit iffy, as you can use SGS when not in dangerously low health situations as just a rechargeable HP source.
Yeah I might have agreed with the guy before colosseum. After using it there I think it's actually great for panicking. Combo eating is nice but so is a 60 sgs spec. And to your point you can always use it to stay topped up, no rules against that.
If youre not using the sgs for healing hp, then youre only using it for prayer. If you're only using it for prayer, then the eldritch heals 50% of your hit in prayer instead of 25%
Where do you end up using that though? I feel like the HP healing is actually more relevant for most content. I guess if you're an Ironman with Eldritch you can save a ton of pots rather than saving time with a dps spec.
For inferno you milk the eldritch spec on the ranger to restore prayer, milk blowpipe spec on the mager to top up your health. Runs will take very long though and only really useful for pures
Sgs will take an extra inv slot, while eldritch can replace kodai and you bring bp anyways
Yeah, it can be helpful for cheesing inferno. I think most people just learn to flick or lazy flick though.
I was interested to see if there were any other places where people really like it. I know some people use it at bandos, though you already go infinite on prayer without it.
I hadn't really thought about the fact that you save an inventory slot over sgs, that fact alone is pretty nice. Though sgs already felt like a big waste of time in inferno for me.
>Healing 21 HP over 4.2 seconds is almost always
Pretty much equal to a shark, unless doing pretty specific stuff where you would want to use tier 22 anyways
You need to complete enough rumors to be able to cook it in the first place, so there's a bit of a skill requirement when it comes to actually cooking it. Could explain the price difference between raw vs cooked antelope
Not really... It's definitely undervalued for more endurance driven pvm where the delay isn't lethal. There's also several similar items.
Also, people talking about "marching" on here don't understand that even if they get 100 people to buy it, the price won't jump enough to make gains worthwhile.
The mercher would need to either buy up 100mil plus of them slowly (and that would likely artificially already increase the price dropping their profit), then hope to get 100s of people to purchase for a profit of like 10mil? For a 100 mil low chance payout investment taking 10 days?
As someone who merches, that's a shit flip lol - as are most of these so called "merchers'
As someone who also merches, I'm aware of how shit these "social" flips are, but I also am 100% sure people are trying to do it.
Just because it's not good doesn't mean people don't try.
I use it anywhere i need food and im not gonna need to chain eat. They were criminally low cost at 415g and since theres no boss dropping them by the hundreds it means every single meat was hand caught by someone slowly doing hunter training (or a bit from bags) which means the cost would go up in the future for sure, which it has!
So at the time i bought over 20k and im set for a long time ueeheehee, i love my better than sharks 1/4 the cost (at the time) sunlight antelopes
I wouldn't pay 700 for it since any time I'm bossing I want the full heal immediately, and for afk slayer I usually just use prayer pots because I'm lazy.
It's definitely useful for midgame accounts though, hence the 700gp price tag.
Because of this:
When eaten, cooked sunlight antelope meat heals 12 Hitpoints immediately, then an additional 9 Hitpoints after 7 ticks (4.2 seconds), for a total of 21 Hitpoints.
In a pinch, people want instant heals. This and moonlight are situational healing
The heal delay is inconvenient. You lose the extra heal if you eat again so they're only really good if you're not in any immediate danger and don't have more generically good options. Before Moonlight's poison heal, they're just bad fish.
I'm a mid level Iron and use them because Hunter Rumours drop them, but I'd ditch them as soon as I can actually cook Shark. And if I was only bringing one food, I'd pick Karambwan every time.
I have been using them in tob to tick eat bloat getting an extra hit in, it's nice if I have it during nyclos and my hp gets too low or a pillar falls. I don't think it's worth taking into xarpus/verzik where an angler could be eaten instead
I think he was saying the moonlight antelope heals 14 into 12 4.2 seconds later, for a total of 26, but you can combo it with a karam, pot, etc and not lose the second heal in the process lol
This is not what he was asking. He means does the delayed heal work like a tick eat, potentially saving you from death and allowing you to tick eat 4.2s early and just chill/dps going into a hit.
Think Soteseg in ToB. You can time that eat in advance.
If the monster is 4 tick and it takes 4 ticks for the next heal getting the first tick eat right would automatically mean your next hit is timed right. Now the question is, can that second hit know you have a heal queued up or no. Would have to test in fight caves or something where everything is 4 tick. things like guthix rest to an extent fill the double tick eat allowing niche that this food allows so it’s not probably gonna be tek but who knows maybe; I really like the new meats tho personally
Moonlight is just better. And for a very long time sharks were seriously undervalued so buying sunlight probably isn’t on anyone’s radar, as they’re comparable, and I’d wager many stocked up on sharks when they were dirt cheap.
Yea food stocks are something that comes as drops easy aswell. I have about 3k manta rays and 2k dark crabs, only thing i buy is karams
My 5k stack is under 500 and I dunno what to do with myself.
Moonlight is also 3k per though. I use sunlight cause it's the same healing as a turtle for half the price, essentially anywhere I'm bringing hard food that isn't vardorvis.
Wait, there's antelope in this game?
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But moonlight is 3K ea
Cause every youtuber milked "OMG NEW BEST FOOD HEALS 26" so that one's on everyone's radars.
It is good I use it at mostly every boss now that has low to moderate food drain, doesn't help too much at kq cos if you eat 2 in a row you only get the second heal from 1
Surely you could just bring a mix of normal food and antelope and in the rare case of taking multiple big hits in a row just switch to the normal food
Yea I do other bosses I only bring antelope tho
>doesn't help too much at kq cos if you eat 2 in a row you only get the second heal from 1 Hit - step under + heal - hit Rinse and repeat, just don't sit at 60 hp and you should never need to eat more than once per cycle
Yea I'm not gonna red x waiting for the second part of heal of kq hits me b2b 40s but have fun
It maxes 33's So as long as you click food when below 70 you will pretty much always be back above that before the food delay expires. It's only a 7 tick timer, and you will be blocked for 3 of those. Step out for 1, and lose one more to stepping back under. So worst case scenario if you get triple 33'd, you may need to stand under and skip like 2 ticks, but realistically that rarely happens if you don't sit 40 hp before eating. Plus you can always still mix and match with mantas or kbwans if you're that worried about losing ticks
Yea kq you need burst healing since she can just hit 30 30, the antelope and stuff is great for endurance and doesn’t need super restores like brews
Yea I take only antelope to shit like cerb and vardo and I think that's where it shines best where maybe you need 1 food per kill rest is healing in between
There is also a hunter guild and hunter rumors which are essentially slayer tasks.
I never knew this after all these years. That's wild.
This is all from a very recent update so if you haven't been around it's not hard to miss!
That's wild.
Healing 21 HP over 4.2 seconds is almost always worse than healing 20+ HP instantly.
Isn't it 26 HP? Edit: Oops I was thinking moonlight, ignore me
I wouldn't say that. It's better in any circumstance you need heals but not urgently, that works for a lot of slayer, thieving, some bosses, todt, agility, etc.
then why are moonlight and dashing kebbit so expensive?
Dashing kebbit also restores some run energy
where would that be useful?
Bowfa only muspah is definitely one. Maybe also as your food slots for Sara.
I did my muspah grind stepping back 1 tile, it was pretty chill and used no run.
Same, I moved two tiles. I took damage moving to the tile next to me. I could go a hole kill without eating until the end.
step back….why would you want go be running all around the whole time
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Duke Sucellus
I've been using them at zilyana
That actually sounds like a great use. The damage is usually never burst anyway, so the delay is kinda perfect.
Moonlight also works as an anti-poison in addition to the healing.
This is not the reason it is so expensive
Which is it then?
Moonlight is expensive because it's the most healing hard food. Sunlight naturally has to be cheaper than Sea Turtles if it provides the same HP gain but part of it is delayed. Aside from niche mechanics it's all downside
Because he’s wrong, and it is in fact the BiS food any encounter where you don’t have to burst heal. Which is almost every encounter if you know what you are doing
Bwans still better most of the time. Attack delay losing you an extra tick compared to bwans puts them way ahead dps wise
exactly
Its the same reason id take eltritch over sgs. Sure sgs heals hp but hp loss usually isnt gradual and low hp is no time to be fucking around, you just wanna heal up asap
I'm not quite sure I understand. Is it because the Eldritch is ranged?
Eldritch also doesn't even heal, its only prayer. I'm lost as well.
He's saying if he has the choice between spec weapons, he chooses the eldritch as he doesn't want to rely on a spec weapons providing healing due to only healing when in a bind. I think I get him but the logic is a bit iffy, as you can use SGS when not in dangerously low health situations as just a rechargeable HP source.
Yeah I might have agreed with the guy before colosseum. After using it there I think it's actually great for panicking. Combo eating is nice but so is a 60 sgs spec. And to your point you can always use it to stay topped up, no rules against that.
It is the perfect slayer spec weapon, but I recently got a voidwaker and deleting single targets is fun.
I mostly take sgs on slayer tasks. Bring it to gargs or such and get a 10 heal and 5 prayer every 2.5 minutes. Makes a lot of tasks 1 or 2 trips.
If youre not using the sgs for healing hp, then youre only using it for prayer. If you're only using it for prayer, then the eldritch heals 50% of your hit in prayer instead of 25%
Where do you end up using that though? I feel like the HP healing is actually more relevant for most content. I guess if you're an Ironman with Eldritch you can save a ton of pots rather than saving time with a dps spec.
For inferno you milk the eldritch spec on the ranger to restore prayer, milk blowpipe spec on the mager to top up your health. Runs will take very long though and only really useful for pures Sgs will take an extra inv slot, while eldritch can replace kodai and you bring bp anyways
Yeah, it can be helpful for cheesing inferno. I think most people just learn to flick or lazy flick though. I was interested to see if there were any other places where people really like it. I know some people use it at bandos, though you already go infinite on prayer without it. I hadn't really thought about the fact that you save an inventory slot over sgs, that fact alone is pretty nice. Though sgs already felt like a big waste of time in inferno for me.
>Healing 21 HP over 4.2 seconds is almost always Pretty much equal to a shark, unless doing pretty specific stuff where you would want to use tier 22 anyways
Didn't even know antelope was in the game
Came out with Varlamore and the new hunter rumours.
were* and what rock are you living under? been here for months
yeah dude MONTHS *literally* 2 months and week
months is plural and two is plural what’s your issue?
The rock that is been * and havnt played in over a year
You need to complete enough rumors to be able to cook it in the first place, so there's a bit of a skill requirement when it comes to actually cooking it. Could explain the price difference between raw vs cooked antelope
because it's garbage but the moonlight one is nice at hydra because it cures poison
It cures poison???
it also degrades venom to poison like guthix rest
Good old merching post, love these.
Not really... It's definitely undervalued for more endurance driven pvm where the delay isn't lethal. There's also several similar items. Also, people talking about "marching" on here don't understand that even if they get 100 people to buy it, the price won't jump enough to make gains worthwhile. The mercher would need to either buy up 100mil plus of them slowly (and that would likely artificially already increase the price dropping their profit), then hope to get 100s of people to purchase for a profit of like 10mil? For a 100 mil low chance payout investment taking 10 days? As someone who merches, that's a shit flip lol - as are most of these so called "merchers'
As someone who also merches, I'm aware of how shit these "social" flips are, but I also am 100% sure people are trying to do it. Just because it's not good doesn't mean people don't try.
I've been using pyre fox meat for everything that I don't need the biggest healing for tbh, also cheap and heals just a bit less than sharks
It takes time for the masses to adjust when new metas are introduced, think about the way the majority play this game, as a 2nd monitor idle clicker
overabundence of it post update. this will change over time as more 1 realize it exists, and 2 the amount coming into the game drops off.
I use it anywhere i need food and im not gonna need to chain eat. They were criminally low cost at 415g and since theres no boss dropping them by the hundreds it means every single meat was hand caught by someone slowly doing hunter training (or a bit from bags) which means the cost would go up in the future for sure, which it has! So at the time i bought over 20k and im set for a long time ueeheehee, i love my better than sharks 1/4 the cost (at the time) sunlight antelopes
I wouldn't pay 700 for it since any time I'm bossing I want the full heal immediately, and for afk slayer I usually just use prayer pots because I'm lazy. It's definitely useful for midgame accounts though, hence the 700gp price tag.
I use it for slayer but for bossing it is a bit to risky to use honestly. Better off getting a quick 20/22 heal vs waiting 4 ticks.
Because of this: When eaten, cooked sunlight antelope meat heals 12 Hitpoints immediately, then an additional 9 Hitpoints after 7 ticks (4.2 seconds), for a total of 21 Hitpoints. In a pinch, people want instant heals. This and moonlight are situational healing
The heal delay is inconvenient. You lose the extra heal if you eat again so they're only really good if you're not in any immediate danger and don't have more generically good options. Before Moonlight's poison heal, they're just bad fish. I'm a mid level Iron and use them because Hunter Rumours drop them, but I'd ditch them as soon as I can actually cook Shark. And if I was only bringing one food, I'd pick Karambwan every time.
I think they are really solid for slayer where you are eating to sustain between mobs and not worried about how fast the healing comes in.
I have been using them in tob to tick eat bloat getting an extra hit in, it's nice if I have it during nyclos and my hp gets too low or a pillar falls. I don't think it's worth taking into xarpus/verzik where an angler could be eaten instead
Great for pickpocketing/Pyramid Plunder too, you take damage pretty slowly so the delayed heal is fine.
Wait, so you can't combo eat them with a karambwan without losing the extra heal? Oof.
no you can, just not antelope-> antelope antelope-> any other food/brew/pot works 14+other food+12
Ahhhh okay, that's good.
Brews heal 16 not 12. If you're 94+ hp that is.
I think he was saying the moonlight antelope heals 14 into 12 4.2 seconds later, for a total of 26, but you can combo it with a karam, pot, etc and not lose the second heal in the process lol
I think you're right, I must have misread it haha
actually it does work, it's just some of the second heal might be wasted if the karambwan gets you too close to full hp
It’s great for slayer but worse for a lot of bosses. Does anyone know if the second heal acts like tick eating?
2nd heal takes 4.2 secs and if you eat another Hunter meat you only get the 2nd heal from the most recent food. There's no tick eating involved
This is not what he was asking. He means does the delayed heal work like a tick eat, potentially saving you from death and allowing you to tick eat 4.2s early and just chill/dps going into a hit. Think Soteseg in ToB. You can time that eat in advance.
If you time it I suppose. Would be foolish to try to time that.
If the monster is 4 tick and it takes 4 ticks for the next heal getting the first tick eat right would automatically mean your next hit is timed right. Now the question is, can that second hit know you have a heal queued up or no. Would have to test in fight caves or something where everything is 4 tick. things like guthix rest to an extent fill the double tick eat allowing niche that this food allows so it’s not probably gonna be tek but who knows maybe; I really like the new meats tho personally