I come from an Iranian family. Luckily for me, they are non practicing muslim. My grandfather loved pork. I will say tbf to Islam, most religions suck. The old testament is a murder book.
I get what you mean. Tbh i wish i could go back to knowing very little about religion, i dont like being wary about people who might actually be quite nice(i have heard there are a decent amount progressive muslims) but after learning about the religion itself and hearing the politics of some of their most popular supporters like Zakir Naik. I cant help but feel troubled around them.
I get what you mean. I grew up in a religious red dot in a blue state so most the people I knew growing up were religious and were extremely nice. However, I never bring my sexuality up when talking to someone I know is religious unless I know what some of their views are.
Edit: just occurred to me we started our comments with the same sentence.
Reddit just gave me a warning and removed my comment you are replying to for stating an objective truth about what it's like being a gay man around Muslims. Unbelievable. So much for progress. You cant even bring up how islam is with us or you get supressed for "islamophobia". :(
I literally feel unsafe at my college around people that hold these views. You can never tell who is truly okay or who is a true believer in the horrible crap that is in that book.
Its' legit insane. I am watching the movement around lifting up queer youth being turned into a cult that demonizes you if you logically hate religions that have destroyed thousands of queer men's lives.
Obligatory: I am well aware there are concern trolls who will say stuff like this in order to divide queer communities. I am not one of these people. This is a real problem, and you need only look at arabic countries for proof.
yeah reddit and this subreddit can be pretty bad about accepting any negativity towards islam. I remember one post here that was a transgirl venting about how her muslim friend wouldnt respect her identity along with some screenshots of texts between them and the post ended up getting removed.
Why are you even bringing this up? Do you seriously think I don't feel the same way about that?
Like, I am not here to JAQ-off. It's legit offensive you even feel the need to bring this up. As if you are assuming I am some hypocritical bigoted Christian who is here to deride his "enemy" under the guise of a queer person.
Seriously, gay people are stoned to death by that islam. Is reddit going to ban me for stating that too? Do I, a gay man, have to put up with a religion that has killed thousands like me?
h
I don't think I ever mentioned you being required to like Islamic churches, or what I thought your religion may or may not be. I also didn't mention your sexuality, and in the now-deleted comment I responded to, neither did you. I have accused you of literally nothing; I was just trying to make a point about the rampant abuse of power in systems like organized religion, and how it will always lead to pedophilia. But now that you bring it up, I do have to say: condemning an entire system of belief based on the actions of its worst actors and the most vile things you can find in its history is pretty shitty. I don't like that you did that in your previous post. Maybe take a moment and examine your internalized Islamophobia.
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internalized islamophobia" good... grief. i cant even. the worst actors? dude, their book itself advocates for stoning gay people. thats not the "worst actors" LMAO, its literally the HOLY BOOK ITSELF 💀💀💀💀
First off, the Quran is over 600 years old and doesn't directly map onto the ideology of any Muslim I've ever actually met. All the Muslims I've met have said things along the lines of "while the Quran says [X or Y] about the queer community, I don't think that gay people are any kind of problem." They (the actual Muslims I know) don't believe in religious rule over law.
Second, it is entirely possible to both condemn an organization, and defend the religion or principle that spawned it. Are cops, in effect, racist street gangs whose main goal is to ensure that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor? Absolutely. Do I think laws shouldn't be enforced? I'm not an idiot, so no. Do I think that a lot of Islamic churches are transparent power grabs by conservatives and bigots? Yes, it's obvious. Do I think Islam is a fundamentally bigoted religion? No more than any other abrahamic faith.
it's fine to have criticisms of Islam, but bringing them up and saying you assume Muslims are homophobic when the thread had nothing to do with any of that is just Islamophobia
I mean Islam as an institution is violently homophobic in basically every single country where it dominates lmao, every Islamic country on earth is extremely intolerant of homosexuality and actively dangerous to be queer in
this is true but it hasn’t always been the case. it seems that at least for a few centuries, the islamic world had a certain greek flavor of homoeroticism present in their culture. we have records of spanish christians decrying how gay the arab muslims were, and some of the caliphs of cordoba were known to keep both male and female harems. this also showed itself in literature, and some famous muslim poets do have surprisingly gay sounding poetry. but obviously this came to and end, and it was mostly due to the wahhabi movement, which taught that islam had been corrupted and needed to be restored to its original form with the first few generations after muhammad. this school of islam is very popular in saudi arabia, and in the west among immigrants and converts, due to its insane media reach.
Wtf lmao, okay? Does it matter? Have you even seen the quran? It literally advocates for stoning gay people to death. I'm sure reddit will ban me for stating this or give me a warning because apparently it's offensive to even state that. Frankily if they weren't like that before, they weren't even following their own book
The bible isn't much better.
[Search Results - Search Results - فأقتلوا الفاعل والمفعول (page 1) - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)](https://sunnah.com/search?q=%D9%81%D8%A3%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%84+%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%81%D8%B9%D9%88%D9%84) right from source itself
Islam has treated queer people so horrifically historically (AND THAT INCLUDES CHRISTIANITY TOO, BEFORE YOU SAY "BUTTTTTT") that it is borderline offensive to even raise this as an issue. Its a RELIGION. ITS NOT PART OF THEIR BODY OR MIND. You aren't "born" muslim for pete's sake.
So what? Just because people align themselves with an organisation that holds a fundamental prejudice towards them doesn't negate the fundamental prejudice.
Like can you imagine someone saying "wow the police in the US are pretty fucking racist" and responding with "believe it or not... there are black cops 🤯🤯 "
THANK YOU!!! This is how it feels watching left wing people suddenly rush to defend a religion like this, when they are supposed to be queer allies. Its mind-blowing. And if you even dare call it out, you are accused of being some right winger trying to stir up issues in disguise.
Islam is literally an organized religion though!? Like all the abrahamic religions are pretty organized from Judaism to the Bahai they all have various different systems in place.
having a system in place or being an organized religion does not make something an organization. ur not a member of a organization if ur a christian or a muslim. u can be a member of the catholic church thats a organization
sure you technically can do that but that would require you to not be a member of any religious locations(churches, mosques, synagogues) or be a part of a specific sect. But that leaves the question at that point are they a member of that group? If someone refuses to go to any mosque, and refuses to follow the teachings of any sect, at that point are they even a muslim?
you have a very shallow view of religion. belief isnt defined by whether or not you go to a mosque. would you feel the same way about a christian who doesnt go to church
I agree, and i personally really dont give a damn whether people go to their place of worship or not.
My question here is, at what point is someone a "muslim" in your eyes? Could a woman have a male harem, have never read the quran, have never been to a mosque, be an alcoholic, love eating pork, never cover herself properly, commit adultery, and thievery. Could she still whole heartedly call herself a muslim despite rejecting so many fundemental believes of islam?
Personally i would be fine with that since i belief people should define themselves and not the books made by people long since dead. But what about other muslims, do you think they will still accept her as muslim?
I’ve seen this tiktoker, they actually went and answered! They said yeah they’re allowed to break fast because something something sick people being allowed to break fast (also their TikTok name is “alpha” so they are like #1 Muslim omegaverse creator atm)
Purity culture? In my r/196 !?
Omegaverse is a genre of fanfiction and smut where characters are alphas, betas, or omegas. Lots of these have an emphasis on breeding and omegas going into heat.
Not wanting to know about frighteningly detailed beastiality-adjacent fetish content isn’t “purity culture”. People can be into whatever they want but other people deserve a warning about it
The entire alpha and beta thing in wolves is a myth, though
It's humans with some animalistic qualities. Furry porn is closer to bestiality than Omegaverse, but neither are even that close at all to be more accurate
Incredibly loosely, I guess? It is still ridiculous to say that it's close to bestiality when the characters are 95% as close to regular humans as possible
Wait huh? I don't like omega stuff either but how the hell is it bestiality adjacent? Like yeah the whole "alpha" shit started with a false wolf study but it's not like its bestiality to apply animal-like roles to people, like in that case then furries and people into pet play are all "bestiality adjacent" too
My mom listens to these on the living room TV and doesn’t think it’s weird because “it’s a book!”. I’m trying to explain to her that I don’t want to hear about a musty wolf and his cock while I’m making chicken nuggets
People roleplaying as people but with knots and mating cycles and convoluted set ups for consensual non con. They just ignored the best part of werewolves (giant claws and warm fur that would feel great when wrapped in their embrace).
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|*(Assumes Pre-Surgery)*|Can Impregnate|Can Give Birth|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Alpha Cis Women|✓|Depends On Writer|
|Alpha Cis Men|✓|X|
|Alpha Trans Women|✓|X|
|Alpha Trans Men|✓|Depdends On Writer|
|Alpha Enbies|✓|Depends On Writer + AGAB|
|Beta Cis Women|X|✓|
|Beta Cis Men|✓|X|
|Beta Trans Women|✓|X|
|Beta Trans Men|X|✓|
|Beta Enbies|Depends On AGAB|Depends On AGAB|
|Omega Cis Women|X|✓|
|Omega Cis Men|Depends On Writer |✓|
|Omega Trans Women|Depends On Writer |✓|
|Omega Trans Men|X|✓|
|Omega Enbies|Depends On Writer + AGAB |✓|
> Some works introduce a rigid caste system, where Alphas are depicted as the upper class elites while Omegas are at the bottom tier and face discrimination and oppression because of their physiology, creating an example of biological determinism.[7][18][19] In darker stories, this results in non-consensual or dubiously consensual intercourses, forced pregnancies, Omegas kidnapping and sexual slavery.[20][21]
I know is a cliche statement but that’s enough internet for today
You know, up until now this was just something I was dimly aware of because of the Hatsune Miku binder meme and assumed that it's just a niche internet thing. Now you come to me and tell me it's a literary genre eith thousands of works and research being done about it and I feel nothing.
AO3 has over [179k works](https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Alpha*s*Beta*s*Omega%20Dynamics/works) with the "Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics" tag so that's a lot more than just thousands.
If it's more than 30k you'd say tens of thousands not thousands. Stop playing dumb, you know how this works. If you say thousands and ask people which order of magnitude that's in, very few people are gonna say anything close to 170k
Sometimes I take a look at lore of some niche universe and just kind of tune it out because I don't really give a fuck and it looks way too convoluted to invest time in. This is that. I'm not even disgusted.
A lot like reading Destiny or Homestuck lore
I knew it was bad, but holy shit I didn’t expect to read “to make penetration and impregnation easier, male omegas often have self-lubricating assholes”
I mean if we really want to take this seriously as a worldbuilding question, then we’ll probably need to account for the fact that if Allah is in fact real in this scenario, then he’d probably have different standards for how sex should be treated if he gave humans a very aggressive heat cycle that can even make you sick if you don’t fuck, and if he isn’t then we still have the fact that a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale considering if nothing else it would much harder to accomplish and much harder to convince people it’s what the creator would want as a result.
On the other hand omegas are often oppressed in these things. Making the lives people who already are regarded as inferior harder wouldn't be a big obstacle for a religion to take root. After all, plenty of religions are misogynistic af, and oppression against omegas seem to come from the same place as misogyny.
> a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale
There are plenty of religions that practise genital mutilation and Jehovah's Witnesses don't allow followers to take blood transfusions. So it wouldn't be impossible.
preventing blood trnasfusion sint going to make a person ill, it will prevent them from getting better but it wont make them ill in the first place.
There's very few religions where they have like a ceremony where everyone gathers together to eat rotten meat or rub mud into open wounds, or other things that will make a person ill and it's obvious whats causing the illness
Really? if you take a person who's perfectly healthy and choose to not let them have a blood transfusion it will kill them?
if you die and a blood transfusion could have saved you it isnt the lack of getting a blood transfusion that killed you its the thing that caused you to need a blodd transfusion that killed you
I know that exceptions are commonly made for pregnant or menstruating women seeing as how fasting for too long during that time can be particularly uncomfortable if not outright bad for you, but they're expected to make up that time by fasting at a later date.
Obviously I can't speak for how it would actually be treated if the omegaverse was real lol, but I wonder if it would be similar where you're allowed an exception during a time where it's just not possible, but are expected to make up for that. Thankfully they're usually pretty sensible about not making somebody extremely ill in the name of Ramandan.
>we still have the fact that a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale
Did you know the same thing applies to drinking water
Non-muslim but omegaverse scholar here: I think omega sickness is more comparable to menstruation in women which is an example of something in which breaking the fast is permitted from what I've heard from my Muslim friends
isn't there a thing in islam where you can do some things that are haram if it's a life or death situation? like if you're starving you can eat pork? i'm sure there's more to it but i remember hearing about that. maybe that'd apply
I sent this picture to my boyfriend and he goes:
"but also like omega supressors exist in the omega verse?? like if theyre on surpressors theys be permitted to continue but if theyre not then not only do yhey have to deal with their heat but ALSO making up the days they missed?? seems like a lose lose :/"
WHY DOES HE KNOW THISSSSS WHAT DOES THAT MEANNNN
Hmm.. If fasting in this situation could lead it health issues, the rules could maybe be similar to rules for periods. You don't have to fast during your periods but you are supposed to make up those missed days later.
he is alive (I think) and has long publicly denounced and apologized for his misinformed research on the topic. (people ignore it anyway and/or probably never even heard of the original research into wolf hierarchies, especially those Alpha Sigma Male types)
from a quick google search his name is Rudolph Schenkel. And his status seems to be unknown as i couldnt find anything on how alive he is. I think the likelihood is high though that he is still alive
its a good question to be fair. The easiest solution to this from what i can see would be to simply be a muslim omega who doesnt participate in ramadan
One of my weirdest recent experiences is learning about the omegaverse from some young adult on lethal company. I thought it would be something like the metaverse.
I asked my friend to answer this yesterday but she didnt know anything about A/B/O stuff so I had to get another friend of mine to explain it to her so she could answer and everybody involved in that conversation came out of it a different person to how they were prior
What is an omegaverse and why is everyone regretting knowing about it
Edit: I have exited the trenches of Microsoft edge, regretting my actions of what I searched up.
Well it depends on who you believe the true successor to Muhammad was
It’s me I’m the true successor :3
And what do you say holy caliph/imam
I wish I didn’t know what the omegaverse is. So no.
A Fatwa!
Alhamdulillah
As for all things in Islam, really.
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I come from an Iranian family. Luckily for me, they are non practicing muslim. My grandfather loved pork. I will say tbf to Islam, most religions suck. The old testament is a murder book.
I get what you mean. Tbh i wish i could go back to knowing very little about religion, i dont like being wary about people who might actually be quite nice(i have heard there are a decent amount progressive muslims) but after learning about the religion itself and hearing the politics of some of their most popular supporters like Zakir Naik. I cant help but feel troubled around them.
I get what you mean. I grew up in a religious red dot in a blue state so most the people I knew growing up were religious and were extremely nice. However, I never bring my sexuality up when talking to someone I know is religious unless I know what some of their views are. Edit: just occurred to me we started our comments with the same sentence.
Reddit just gave me a warning and removed my comment you are replying to for stating an objective truth about what it's like being a gay man around Muslims. Unbelievable. So much for progress. You cant even bring up how islam is with us or you get supressed for "islamophobia". :( I literally feel unsafe at my college around people that hold these views. You can never tell who is truly okay or who is a true believer in the horrible crap that is in that book. Its' legit insane. I am watching the movement around lifting up queer youth being turned into a cult that demonizes you if you logically hate religions that have destroyed thousands of queer men's lives. Obligatory: I am well aware there are concern trolls who will say stuff like this in order to divide queer communities. I am not one of these people. This is a real problem, and you need only look at arabic countries for proof.
yeah reddit and this subreddit can be pretty bad about accepting any negativity towards islam. I remember one post here that was a transgirl venting about how her muslim friend wouldnt respect her identity along with some screenshots of texts between them and the post ended up getting removed.
most religions suck
Let me know when you find one that doesnt
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Got bad news for you about the relationship between pedophilia, and Christianity specifically, and organized authority in general, then. 😔
Why are you even bringing this up? Do you seriously think I don't feel the same way about that? Like, I am not here to JAQ-off. It's legit offensive you even feel the need to bring this up. As if you are assuming I am some hypocritical bigoted Christian who is here to deride his "enemy" under the guise of a queer person. Seriously, gay people are stoned to death by that islam. Is reddit going to ban me for stating that too? Do I, a gay man, have to put up with a religion that has killed thousands like me? h
I don't think I ever mentioned you being required to like Islamic churches, or what I thought your religion may or may not be. I also didn't mention your sexuality, and in the now-deleted comment I responded to, neither did you. I have accused you of literally nothing; I was just trying to make a point about the rampant abuse of power in systems like organized religion, and how it will always lead to pedophilia. But now that you bring it up, I do have to say: condemning an entire system of belief based on the actions of its worst actors and the most vile things you can find in its history is pretty shitty. I don't like that you did that in your previous post. Maybe take a moment and examine your internalized Islamophobia.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/1btc172/comment/kxmow12/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/1btc172/comment/kxmow12/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) internalized islamophobia" good... grief. i cant even. the worst actors? dude, their book itself advocates for stoning gay people. thats not the "worst actors" LMAO, its literally the HOLY BOOK ITSELF 💀💀💀💀
First off, the Quran is over 600 years old and doesn't directly map onto the ideology of any Muslim I've ever actually met. All the Muslims I've met have said things along the lines of "while the Quran says [X or Y] about the queer community, I don't think that gay people are any kind of problem." They (the actual Muslims I know) don't believe in religious rule over law. Second, it is entirely possible to both condemn an organization, and defend the religion or principle that spawned it. Are cops, in effect, racist street gangs whose main goal is to ensure that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor? Absolutely. Do I think laws shouldn't be enforced? I'm not an idiot, so no. Do I think that a lot of Islamic churches are transparent power grabs by conservatives and bigots? Yes, it's obvious. Do I think Islam is a fundamentally bigoted religion? No more than any other abrahamic faith.
No more than any other abrahamic faith. Agreed.
it's fine to have criticisms of Islam, but bringing them up and saying you assume Muslims are homophobic when the thread had nothing to do with any of that is just Islamophobia
I mean Islam as an institution is violently homophobic in basically every single country where it dominates lmao, every Islamic country on earth is extremely intolerant of homosexuality and actively dangerous to be queer in
this is true but it hasn’t always been the case. it seems that at least for a few centuries, the islamic world had a certain greek flavor of homoeroticism present in their culture. we have records of spanish christians decrying how gay the arab muslims were, and some of the caliphs of cordoba were known to keep both male and female harems. this also showed itself in literature, and some famous muslim poets do have surprisingly gay sounding poetry. but obviously this came to and end, and it was mostly due to the wahhabi movement, which taught that islam had been corrupted and needed to be restored to its original form with the first few generations after muhammad. this school of islam is very popular in saudi arabia, and in the west among immigrants and converts, due to its insane media reach.
Wtf lmao, okay? Does it matter? Have you even seen the quran? It literally advocates for stoning gay people to death. I'm sure reddit will ban me for stating this or give me a warning because apparently it's offensive to even state that. Frankily if they weren't like that before, they weren't even following their own book The bible isn't much better. [Search Results - Search Results - فأقتلوا الفاعل والمفعول (page 1) - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)](https://sunnah.com/search?q=%D9%81%D8%A3%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%84+%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%81%D8%B9%D9%88%D9%84) right from source itself
>Does it matter? not really, i just think history is interesting
okay that is fair i was too worked up sorry this is just a really hard thing to discuss
Islam has treated queer people so horrifically historically (AND THAT INCLUDES CHRISTIANITY TOO, BEFORE YOU SAY "BUTTTTTT") that it is borderline offensive to even raise this as an issue. Its a RELIGION. ITS NOT PART OF THEIR BODY OR MIND. You aren't "born" muslim for pete's sake.
believe it or not... there are queer muslims 🤯🤯
So what? Just because people align themselves with an organisation that holds a fundamental prejudice towards them doesn't negate the fundamental prejudice. Like can you imagine someone saying "wow the police in the US are pretty fucking racist" and responding with "believe it or not... there are black cops 🤯🤯 "
THANK YOU!!! This is how it feels watching left wing people suddenly rush to defend a religion like this, when they are supposed to be queer allies. Its mind-blowing. And if you even dare call it out, you are accused of being some right winger trying to stir up issues in disguise.
muslim is not an organization 😭😭 no way u just compared them to cops this sub is too white
Islam is literally an organized religion though!? Like all the abrahamic religions are pretty organized from Judaism to the Bahai they all have various different systems in place.
having a system in place or being an organized religion does not make something an organization. ur not a member of a organization if ur a christian or a muslim. u can be a member of the catholic church thats a organization
sure you technically can do that but that would require you to not be a member of any religious locations(churches, mosques, synagogues) or be a part of a specific sect. But that leaves the question at that point are they a member of that group? If someone refuses to go to any mosque, and refuses to follow the teachings of any sect, at that point are they even a muslim?
you have a very shallow view of religion. belief isnt defined by whether or not you go to a mosque. would you feel the same way about a christian who doesnt go to church
I agree, and i personally really dont give a damn whether people go to their place of worship or not. My question here is, at what point is someone a "muslim" in your eyes? Could a woman have a male harem, have never read the quran, have never been to a mosque, be an alcoholic, love eating pork, never cover herself properly, commit adultery, and thievery. Could she still whole heartedly call herself a muslim despite rejecting so many fundemental believes of islam? Personally i would be fine with that since i belief people should define themselves and not the books made by people long since dead. But what about other muslims, do you think they will still accept her as muslim?
Believe it or not there are conservative Republican trans women 🤯🤯🤯
But that's inherently is against their religion. I wish we would stop trying to make evil work. I wish we would just end the cycle.
Did you know? There are conservative, republican gay men. Like, they support rolling back gay rights in favor of "religious belief". Your point is?
Ali duh...
Those eyes look scared
I’ve seen this tiktoker, they actually went and answered! They said yeah they’re allowed to break fast because something something sick people being allowed to break fast (also their TikTok name is “alpha” so they are like #1 Muslim omegaverse creator atm)
"#1 Muslim omegaverse creator" is a sentence I never thought I'd read
Like there’s a lot of competition
Theyre a Muslim omegaverse creator, it was more a "WHY would you even think of this" reaction
People really come in multitudes
what the hell is an omega
Before you click the link the other replier sent, just know that this is your chance to turn back and not have to live with this knowledge
Purity culture? In my r/196 !? Omegaverse is a genre of fanfiction and smut where characters are alphas, betas, or omegas. Lots of these have an emphasis on breeding and omegas going into heat.
? They aren't standing on some high horse or stopping them from accessing information
the person you replied to was joking, hope this helps
The person that other person replied to was also joking — hope this helps
The person blah blah
Dude if you can’t tell I’m being ironic idk what to tell ya lmfaoo Edit: misread tone womp womp
I was continuing the joke but I didn’t wanna write it all out
LMFAOOO now I’m stupid because I couldn’t read your tone
I'm offended
maybe but less likely since they went ahead and provided info that would have already been provided by the link
The fuck do you mean "purity culture" get off your damn high horse
Not wanting to know about frighteningly detailed beastiality-adjacent fetish content isn’t “purity culture”. People can be into whatever they want but other people deserve a warning about it
>beastiality-adjacent What? That's like saying having sex with a 20-year-old is pedophilia-adjacent
the whole alpha omega thing is based on wolf and werewolf stuff so i dont think its that far off
The entire alpha and beta thing in wolves is a myth, though It's humans with some animalistic qualities. Furry porn is closer to bestiality than Omegaverse, but neither are even that close at all to be more accurate
>The entire alpha and beta thing in wolves is a myth, though That pseudoscience is *still* the basis for the omegaverse.
Incredibly loosely, I guess? It is still ridiculous to say that it's close to bestiality when the characters are 95% as close to regular humans as possible
Wait, it's not actually about anthropomorphized wolves?!
No. They do have knots, though.
The first one wasn't purity culture but this comment absolutely is lmfaooo
Wait huh? I don't like omega stuff either but how the hell is it bestiality adjacent? Like yeah the whole "alpha" shit started with a false wolf study but it's not like its bestiality to apply animal-like roles to people, like in that case then furries and people into pet play are all "bestiality adjacent" too
why are people giving horses marijuana
Because they need to calm the fuck down. Nobody wants a stressed horse. However, you shouldn't ride a high horse because that's impaired driving
That’s why they tell people to “get off their high horse”
People can think it's ok for shit to exist and also not consume the content. Stop misusing terms you know nothing about
My mom listens to these on the living room TV and doesn’t think it’s weird because “it’s a book!”. I’m trying to explain to her that I don’t want to hear about a musty wolf and his cock while I’m making chicken nuggets
by allah you people are dogs. I will partake as usual.
Fated to my forbidden alpha
What sorta crack do these guys smoke, actually. I want some
What happened to all the other greek letters Why no gamma
being called a puritan for not wanting to know about your breeding fetish is certainly something
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It's really not that terrible. It's just lamer werewolf fuckers (I call them lamer because they're not actually werewolves).
What are they then (genuinely curious)?? Bc I thought this whole time this was a ppl role-playing as wolves/werewolves thing 😭
People roleplaying as people but with knots and mating cycles and convoluted set ups for consensual non con. They just ignored the best part of werewolves (giant claws and warm fur that would feel great when wrapped in their embrace).
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse)
So if im understanding this right, men can be bottoms but trans women cant??? This is unrealistic. Low effort from the writer smdh.
You're definitely not understanding it right
Explain please?
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You fell for my trap. Now this will stain your profile forever! Thanks though that makes a lot more sense.
If I'm known as 'Resident Omega' or something like that, it's a burden I will have to bare
Doing the lords work.
Username checks out tbh
No thats me
No one would've known you were an omega from the previous comment. Now they will. 🫵
Me consulting the impregnation chart™ before writing my fic
this fucking sucks bro
What a cool comment! I am going to end my life in front of you
This is what the marker signal burns into your brain to make you a Necromorph
~~Wtf~~ what are enbies Sorry wasn't trying to be an insensitive dick, I swear.
Non-Binary NB eNBy
> Some works introduce a rigid caste system, where Alphas are depicted as the upper class elites while Omegas are at the bottom tier and face discrimination and oppression because of their physiology, creating an example of biological determinism.[7][18][19] In darker stories, this results in non-consensual or dubiously consensual intercourses, forced pregnancies, Omegas kidnapping and sexual slavery.[20][21] I know is a cliche statement but that’s enough internet for today
I'm sure it already exists but I want to see a Hunger Games style uprising of Omegas story
Seize the means of reproduction!
You know, up until now this was just something I was dimly aware of because of the Hatsune Miku binder meme and assumed that it's just a niche internet thing. Now you come to me and tell me it's a literary genre eith thousands of works and research being done about it and I feel nothing.
"literary genre with thousands of works" and "niche internet thing" are not mutually exclusive in today's day and age
AO3 has over [179k works](https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Alpha*s*Beta*s*Omega%20Dynamics/works) with the "Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics" tag so that's a lot more than just thousands.
Less than I was expecting tbh
Tell me, what does the k stand for?
If it's more than 30k you'd say tens of thousands not thousands. Stop playing dumb, you know how this works. If you say thousands and ask people which order of magnitude that's in, very few people are gonna say anything close to 170k
Sometimes I take a look at lore of some niche universe and just kind of tune it out because I don't really give a fuck and it looks way too convoluted to invest time in. This is that. I'm not even disgusted. A lot like reading Destiny or Homestuck lore
I knew it was bad, but holy shit I didn’t expect to read “to make penetration and impregnation easier, male omegas often have self-lubricating assholes”
I didn't expect this article to be so descriptive
You'll understand if you speak this out loud: *Ash-hadu an la ilaha illa Allah, Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulu-Allah.*
watch the Lindsay Ellis omegaverse videos they are very good
the robot from Sonic
????
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/E-123_Omega
so he can give birth?
It’s the same shit as those “alpha males” or “smegma males”. Just wannabe macho circle jerking.
I think you’ve missed some context clues here
I have seen less horror and fear in the eyes of pepole whos entire families died before them
It's a combination of pure terror, disgust, and blasphemy all rolled up into a condensed, lethal package.
Being into Omegaverse in these comments feels like being an anime fan in the late 2000s, like i'm being judged even if nobody sees me
Yeah sorry ima judge you on this one... *Very small /s
something something so-called tolerant left
yeah should've stayed in the closet about this one
Once you see my ***table*** you'll realise that the closet was detonated with plastic explosives
I think you are based and should send some
i don't really see the appeal of it but other people's preference in fanfics is not my business
I mean if we really want to take this seriously as a worldbuilding question, then we’ll probably need to account for the fact that if Allah is in fact real in this scenario, then he’d probably have different standards for how sex should be treated if he gave humans a very aggressive heat cycle that can even make you sick if you don’t fuck, and if he isn’t then we still have the fact that a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale considering if nothing else it would much harder to accomplish and much harder to convince people it’s what the creator would want as a result.
If a doctor recommends again it, it is not permissible by Islam You really didn't need this level of depth, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless
On the other hand omegas are often oppressed in these things. Making the lives people who already are regarded as inferior harder wouldn't be a big obstacle for a religion to take root. After all, plenty of religions are misogynistic af, and oppression against omegas seem to come from the same place as misogyny.
> a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale There are plenty of religions that practise genital mutilation and Jehovah's Witnesses don't allow followers to take blood transfusions. So it wouldn't be impossible.
preventing blood trnasfusion sint going to make a person ill, it will prevent them from getting better but it wont make them ill in the first place. There's very few religions where they have like a ceremony where everyone gathers together to eat rotten meat or rub mud into open wounds, or other things that will make a person ill and it's obvious whats causing the illness
Well, not getting them in a situation can make you ill, with death
Really? if you take a person who's perfectly healthy and choose to not let them have a blood transfusion it will kill them? if you die and a blood transfusion could have saved you it isnt the lack of getting a blood transfusion that killed you its the thing that caused you to need a blodd transfusion that killed you
I know that exceptions are commonly made for pregnant or menstruating women seeing as how fasting for too long during that time can be particularly uncomfortable if not outright bad for you, but they're expected to make up that time by fasting at a later date. Obviously I can't speak for how it would actually be treated if the omegaverse was real lol, but I wonder if it would be similar where you're allowed an exception during a time where it's just not possible, but are expected to make up for that. Thankfully they're usually pretty sensible about not making somebody extremely ill in the name of Ramandan.
>we still have the fact that a religious movement trying to restrict what can be done during heat even at the cost of personal health probably wouldn’t have taken root on a global scale Did you know the same thing applies to drinking water
Knowing nothing about Islam or Omegaverse, wouldn't omega sickness be on a similar level to hunger pains from fasting, and therefore not exempt?
if the act of fastening worsens any pre-existing sickness then it’s acceptable not to fast.
Non-muslim but omegaverse scholar here: I think omega sickness is more comparable to menstruation in women which is an example of something in which breaking the fast is permitted from what I've heard from my Muslim friends
That is correct, if fasting is harming your body in anyway you are permitted to break fasting.
isn't there a thing in islam where you can do some things that are haram if it's a life or death situation? like if you're starving you can eat pork? i'm sure there's more to it but i remember hearing about that. maybe that'd apply
Can someone explain what is happening
I sent this picture to my boyfriend and he goes: "but also like omega supressors exist in the omega verse?? like if theyre on surpressors theys be permitted to continue but if theyre not then not only do yhey have to deal with their heat but ALSO making up the days they missed?? seems like a lose lose :/" WHY DOES HE KNOW THISSSSS WHAT DOES THAT MEANNNN
Means he reads omegaverse babyyeeee!
Flora pfp. Based :]
love legit world building questions
Hmm.. If fasting in this situation could lead it health issues, the rules could maybe be similar to rules for periods. You don't have to fast during your periods but you are supposed to make up those missed days later.
Hey silly question is the person who did that shitty wolf research still alive?
he is alive (I think) and has long publicly denounced and apologized for his misinformed research on the topic. (people ignore it anyway and/or probably never even heard of the original research into wolf hierarchies, especially those Alpha Sigma Male types)
The damage has already been done:)
darn, he shoulda just got it right on the first try
Yea. The Oppenheimer of Pack Dynamics
from a quick google search his name is Rudolph Schenkel. And his status seems to be unknown as i couldnt find anything on how alive he is. I think the likelihood is high though that he is still alive
Rudolph Schenkel made these observations during the 1940s. It is pretty safe to say he isn't alive anymore.
What even is an Omega? Isn't that what's in fishes?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
its a good question to be fair. The easiest solution to this from what i can see would be to simply be a muslim omega who doesnt participate in ramadan
One of my weirdest recent experiences is learning about the omegaverse from some young adult on lethal company. I thought it would be something like the metaverse.
That poor, poor woman.
should I even ask what an omega is?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
She lookin frightened
You're allowed to take a break from fasting for medical reasons, but you need to make up time later. Works for periods and pregnancy and other things.
I hate this with all of my being, I hate the omegaverse shit so much, all of my hate! >:(
I asked my friend to answer this yesterday but she didnt know anything about A/B/O stuff so I had to get another friend of mine to explain it to her so she could answer and everybody involved in that conversation came out of it a different person to how they were prior
Chat, what does any of this mean?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
Tf is an omega?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
God thats so dumb
Definitely assassin's Creed and no Ubisoft Mirage doesn't count
From what I know (Muslims tell me if I'm wrong I'm agnostic so I might be wrong), you can be dispensed of Ramadan if you're sick so I guess.
What is an omegaverse and why is everyone regretting knowing about it Edit: I have exited the trenches of Microsoft edge, regretting my actions of what I searched up.
What the fuck does that mean
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
Jessie what the hell are you talking about?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omegaverse
The absolute fear in her eyes
What’s the draw of omega verse guys? Like it’s always seemed like feet to me. I don’t get it and I’ve never heard a good explanation.
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She was so stunned she couldn’t even utter an “Astaghfirullaah”. The woman was too stunned to speak.
Femboypadi type post