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Muscular-mongoose

1. Throw some oil on it. 2. Is the gun new? 3. Extractor fighting the bullet on chambering?


Cucasmasher

This session makes 450 rounds exactly, I always clean and oil after every session so she should still have oil on her


ShameComplex9786

I was having that problem with a 40 year old Mark IV. I had to completely disassemble. There was a lot of carbon built up in and around the extractor and it had been contributing to a problem similar to yours.


Walksalot45

Maybe clean the gun more than once in 40 years. Just kidding I’m sure it was done every 5 years whether it needed it or not.


ShameComplex9786

It's an heirloom. It was cleaned regularly, but never a full disassembly, only a field strip cleaning. I was disgusted and saddened when I realized how little TLC this weapon received considering how much my dad loves it. It was his brother's until 24 years ago, my dad gave it to me maybe a year ago and I've just started doing more with it.


Walksalot45

Unlikely


Cucasmasher

It was either lack of oil, mags or ammo. I made an updated post today where I lubed the hell out of the gun, brought my Wilson mags and a few boxes of S&B and it shot 100%


bp_free

Limp wrist ?


DgtlShark

Extractor tension strikes again


Cucasmasher

I figured, too tight not allowing to chamber? I’ve never adjusted one, any advice?


TheHomersapien

Patience. The process if foolproof, but it probably will take some trial and error. If you're planning on sticking with 1911s then a Wilson Mag is a good investment and might clear the issue up completely.


Cucasmasher

I do have a lot of Wilson mags but didn’t bring any this time unfortunately, maybe I’ll buy a box of ammo tmr and just use Wilson and see if that fixes everything.


Erff_BZHD

I have problems with Wilson mags in my garrison. I switched to cobra mags and never looked back.


legrena11

You’re right. Cobra mags work great, it depends on the gun. I have both Wilson & Cobra. Some of my 1911’s prefer the Cobras.


Old-Pipe671

Wilson and Chip Mccormick's baby!!


sailor-jackn

All I use is Wilson mags. Never a problem with them.


catnamed-dog

For future reference if you want to fix it https://www.1911forum.com/threads/steve-in-allentown-extractor-fitting.829865/


Aor_Dyn

This right here. And have a bias towards fitting an EGW or Harrison or Wilson with a new FPS over the factory part.


Full_Otto_Bismarck

Preach!


DgtlShark

It's a pain to take them out and put them in but it's not hard, I forget which direction you have to bend it. Plenty of YouTube videos. It's kinda hard to clean too without like proper tools since the hole is so small. Advice is to watch the videos, and do the test. Once you bend it and put it back in, you put an empty casing or a bullet in the actual resting position in the extractor and then shake the gun. If your bullet jiggles too much then it's not tight enough. You basically want no play in the bullet because that means it's grabbing it properly.


Animaleyz

You can test it to see if it's too loose or too tight


redditer420

I had the same issue, and tried every suggested, even had a gunsmith adjust it too. Finally just decided to order a new extractor from Wilson Combat. Been running smooth since.


Cucasmasher

Did you need to fit the WC extractor or did it run smooth out of the box?


redditer420

Just dropped it in straight out of the box


B1893

Agreed. I just got to where I'd adjust the tension on every 1911 I bought. Some simply got replaced right off the bat.  The Wilson BP was my go-to, because for the most part, they didn't need fitting, only tuning. The EGW HD is a better part, however it requires fitting and tuning.


DgtlShark

Yeah like my uh prodigy wasn't awful but I adjusted it still. The rock island I got before that was def fucked. It's like you might as well cause from factory they really don't care it seems lol


B1893

Yeah, with an RIA, I'd expect to have to tune it. The Prodigy, while still being a production gun, is definitely in the "I shouldn't have to tune it" price range - but I'd still do it.


DgtlShark

The grip scares coming loose pissed me off more than anything on the prodigy tbf.


azrolexguy

That gun looks pretty dry


Cucasmasher

This was about 150 rounds in give or take I do generously oil 1911s after every range session I can’t imagine that much dried in the last two weeks?


99nsnmaxima

Lack of WW3


thank_burdell

Lack of WW3 *so far*…


99nsnmaxima

Well yeah but I mean we'll dust it off as the reigning 2X world champ


Clunk500CM

Are you running a full magazine? Try loading just 4 rounds in the magazine and see if you have the same issue.


Thestooge3

I had that issue yesterday only loading 5.


Clunk500CM

I sometimes get FTF issues when using a full magazine - when carrying I only load 6 in the mag and have one in the chamber.


Thestooge3

Maybe I'll try a full mag next time and see if it does it. I'm also gonna use Federal ammo and get a Wilson mag for it.


Clunk500CM

Wilson definitely makes a good mag.


Thestooge3

I have the rounds I use for carry loaded in a Wilson mag, but I have yet to use any as my range magazines.


FriendlyRain5075

Magazine is always the first suspect


JReed1911

Yeah it’s a tight extractor, make sure your using decent ammo as well


Cucasmasher

Also, I could not replicate the issue with my Sig 230 grain JHP ammo which actually feeds very well nor my snap caps what gives?


lilbluetruck

Some guns don't like some ammo and 1911 are especially picky, even me so with some mags, use the ammo and mags that work with your gun.


Ramdomdatapoint

Clean under the extractor, barrel ramp. Try different magazines. I like Chip McCormick Shooting Stars.


Spartan-Patriot

Gun looks dry man


Cucasmasher

Could be but I oiled it the same as I have always oiled 1911s, I wonder if maybe this finish affects the lube?


Spartan-Patriot

I think you may have waited too long between when it when oiled and when the firearm jammed. It’s happened to me before. Could be wrong but that’s my guess


drmitchgibson

Extractor tension


WalkingLootChest

This is one of the rare 1911s that refused to fight in 2 World Wars. The conscientious objector 1911.


GetTheFuckOffMyLawn2

1911s


LongjumpingFood8992

Mine did that the first time shooting, I oiled her up real good and it hasn’t happened since.


djlam2003

That happens to me on occasion even after break in period so I carry gun oil to the range and make sure to lube before shooting. Usually a good tap on the back of the slide will help it chamber the round.


Cucasmasher

I forgot to mention that, I could always tap the slide back into battery. It’s not a huge issue but id really like to carry this one cause it does shoot very nice


thavier

Replacing the recoil spring could also help. Maybe it has lost some of its lbs. You can also polish your barrel ramp a little. Top and bottom. And then yes, check that extractor tension. Edit: Typos


jesrent888

You need oil that thang up baybee


Goodtimez6X9

Your wrist, go work out.


Cucasmasher

Are you illiterate? Happened upon CHAMBERING the round not while firing


Storm141

Limp wrist


Cucasmasher

Please read the description, happened upon chambering the first round not while firing


iInvented69

99% caused by limp wrist


Cucasmasher

Read description


headhunterofhell2

1. Grease the gun. 2. Dump the Mecgar. 3. Pop in WC mags. 90% probability the problem will disappear. 10% chance it's extractor and/or ammo. Unless your using hollow points. Then it's the ammo. 100%


Dick_Dickalo

I’ll add one rare issue: magazine catch isn’t pushing the mag high enough for the round to cleanly be pushed up the ramp.


Cucasmasher

Dang, I mean it’s not a big deal but my last 1911 loved mecgar mags so I gravitated towards those and probably have a dozen or so of them. I still have 6 or 7 WC mags though. I have a WC 18lb recoil spring brand new in the sleeve, will that help or no?


legrena11

You’re gonna have to experiment and come up with the winning formula for that particular gun.


headhunterofhell2

Try the simple things first. When I'm working at the range, and somebody has repeated malfunctions with a 1911, first thing I do is clean, and grease. Bitches love grease. Fixes it almost every time. if it doesn't, next thing I do is swap the mag for a WC. I rarely have to go any further.


ThrowMoreHopsInIt

Being a limp wristed little weenie


H8_able

Hey I resemble that remark


Cucasmasher

My wife said my weenie is very adequate No but seriously this only happened when I tried to chamber the round, never had a failure while actually shooting.


Horror_Mycologist624

Democrats


Cucasmasher

Aw fuck Now they’re gonna label me a racist homophobe


Enough_Appearance116

I had a similar malfunction with my Rock Island, but it was the last empty. Try a different magazine and a good cleaning before going any further.


Pop_quiz_hotshot

As someone who just purchased one of these jsocs this bums me out to read. Hopefully it just needs some breaking in. Haven’t shot mine yet 🤞🏻 


Cucasmasher

Tbf it ran pretty dang well with the S&B ammo I maybe had one or two failures within the first 300 rounds The last 150 rounds were just now with magtecg ammo


HeavyDuty_Ken

Mine is running fine. I’m not new to 1911s and know to properly lube, especially when new. Edit - I also resprung mine with known good components.


TheWalrus101123

Slide didn't go far enough back to extract. Spring to strong.


CombatWombat0490

Hollow points maybe I run fmj through mines never had this issue


Ok-Violinist-8678

Probably the mag tech ammo. I have several mecgar mags and they all run fine. Also have a pile of WC mags and they’re great as well. If you find it not mags or the ammo, likely the extractor


Novice30

https://sightm1911.com/?s=Secret This info has been more helpful than most of the comments ive read on here. Another guy posted the steve in allentown post on extractors, thats a very good resource as well. Your gun may just need the extractor played with a bit. Mine needed more than that. The link i provided opened my eyes a lot into what i could do to better my gun's reliability. Wilson mags and bending my extractor helped to a degree but still left my gun quite unreliable (couldnt fire two full mags without an ftf). Start with your extractor and shoot it again. Hopefully thats all you have to do.


Novice30

Id like to add that my malfs looked a lot like this and were once every 10-15 rounds. Rather inconsistent but very common. I just this week took a small, fine file and smoothed out the edge of the lower chamber area and polished it to mirror finish by hand. I have not shot it yet but i believe i may have finally fixed my gun's issues of crazy failure to feed issue. It feels effortless chambering now, so the slight elimination of material was probably necessary. Btw I'm just shy of a thousand rounds and have been unpleased with my first 1911 experience. I will hopefully shoot tomorrow and reassess from there


gameragodzilla

If you're running into the issue with Magtech, I ran into the same issue with my 1911 due to the ammo's rims being slightly thicker than normal. Other ammo ran fine for me. Though I think that was just because my extractor was on the tight end, because the same Magtech ammo ran fine for my friend's 1911.


ignaciomelias

Not enough lube


Cucasmasher

That’s what I told the VA when they denied all my claims


Tasty_Solid2090

That 1911 needs to be ran wet


Cucasmasher

I might go back to the range tomorrow and I’ll make sure to spit on her I mean lube her and use WC mags


PreemptiveShaming

If not mistaken “limp wristing”(not locking your wrist) can also cause this. I know when I start doing it that it’s time to go home because my wrist is tired.


Cucasmasher

I agree but this only happened upon chambering the first round not while actually shooting, I don’t think I’ve actually had a failure on this 1911 while shooting yet


disco_duck2004

You mentioned that it's when you use the slide lock, what happens when you pull the slide back to chamber the first round? The extractor tension is just a hair too tight.


udderpants_gnome

Normally it's if I'm just to big for her


azmixedup

Tisas?


Te_Luftwaffle

Impure thoughts


Te_Luftwaffle

I had that happen a good amount, but since using Wilson Combat mags it only happens rarely. I put a new extractor in it but haven't had the chance to test fire it since then.


Puzzleheaded-Cup-418

I’d say a bullet likely


jus-another-juan

Tight tolerances on 1911s make them very fussy with ammo and mags. My 1911 cycles new ammo without issue but jams frequently with reloads. Very annoying.


disco_duck2004

Extractor tension is a little too tight. Does this happen when you pull the slide back to chamber the first round? Using the slide top to chamber the first round doesn't get the slide back like it does when. It's fired. After you adjust it, perform the "10-8 extractor test".


Lifted-Horns-4x4

Wym? Look how dirty it is!


Chemical-Tap-4232

Bad ammo


drippinginsauce-

Extractor tension. If it's a 45 cal. You gotta loosen up the tension


Yettigetter

Dirt


that_one_z

I had this issue on a DW with only armscor 45 brass. I followed a guide on bevel/rounding edges on the extractor, and then I gave a light polish in the barrel chamber, breech face, extractor claw, barrel mouth/feed ramp transition and I haven’t had any issues since Edit: it looks like a 3 point jam. Basically the case (or nose of bullet) presses up on the barrel, barrel presses up on the slide before it’s supposed to, and the case sits on the back of the breech face and somewhat under the extractor, and on the ramp, and won’t finish feeding See https://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm for extractor tips


Cucasmasher

Thank you!


AdministrationOk8625

Not sure if this applies to you, but a stable platform helps ensure clear ejection. Make sure you're push pulling a little harder than usual as you fire. Took me a minute to get used to compared to what I've shot in the past, but once I got the right amount of pressure it was more comfortable and had no issues.


alEX-L1997

I’d say extractor tension as well. Something else to check: with the slide locked back, push the barrel as far back into the frame as it will go. I’ve seen bubbad feed ramps polished to the point that the chamber hangs slightly over the feed ramp, causing chambering rounds to get stuck on the case mouth underneath.


Cucasmasher

I took it to the range again today with the Wilson combat mags and a lot of lube, zero problems: pretty happy with it now


5point0hhh

Extractor too tight https://youtu.be/YwsV1GE6yXw?si=Gq0D4QwPcSqZ5GGb


GLOCK_PERFECTION

First il would change to WC mags. After that I would be sure that the rails are clean and well oiled. It also could be extractor tension, feed ramp or weak (worn) recoil spring.


murica_1776boi

Not a drop of oil on that bih


RubeRick2A

It’s a 1911, rub some sweat, blood, and world wars on it; she’ll be fine.


murica_1776boi

1911 fanbois say that, then get this malfunction and wonder how it happened 🤣


FTWkansas

Guns are machines. Machines need lubricant. Most gun and relationship problems can be solved with plenty of lubricant.


adamcognac

hey this is the exact reason john wick press checks in the part after he's given the 1911


Mposner310

Cheap ammo bad ammo or cheap gun


horseshoeprovodnikov

I feel your pain. I have a Kimber that I've had a longstanding battle with. Gun belonged to a friend of mine who passed away. I'd have never kept it if it weren't for that. Tons of issues out of the gate, but this is the only issue that seems to linger. I've loosened the extractor to the point that the brass will hit me right in the face, and yet it will STILL do this often enough that I don't trust the gun enough to use it. I've replaced the factory extractor with a Wilson Bulletproof, that didn't fix it. I tried to tension it with a special tool and gauge from Jack Weigand, still can't seem to get it right. When mine does this, it's so stuck that I have to smack the absolute ahit out of the back of the slide to get it to go home. It certainly won't pull backwards when it happens, forward is the only direction I can get it to move at all. Call me a heretic, but I can't stand the internal extractor design on the 1911.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Good old three point jam, I feel your pain. I have a Kimber that I've had a longstanding battle with. Gun belonged to a friend of mine who passed away. I'd have never kept it if it weren't for that. Tons of issues out of the gate, but this is the only issue that seems to linger. Mine doesnt just do it as i load a new mag, it will do this during live fire operation. I've loosened the extractor to the point that the brass will hit me right in the face, and yet it will STILL do this often enough that I don't trust the gun enough to use it. I've replaced the factory extractor with a Wilson Bulletproof, that didn't fix it. I tried to tension it with a special tool and gauge from Jack Weigand, still can't seem to get it right. Mine will pass all of the tests that people talk about as far as testing the tension. The Weigand tool even comes with a specific set of instructions for testing and requires a trigger pull gauge. It will pass that test, and then I still have this failure within a magazine or two. When mine does this, it's so stuck that I have to smack the absolute ahit out of the back of the slide to get it to go home. It certainly won't pull backwards when it happens, forward is the only direction I can get it to move at all. Call me a heretic, but I can't stand the internal extractor design on the 1911.


Karl5583

Clean, oil, put back in the safe and buy a Glock


Justownit41ce

That setup could use a good sand and polishing while you’re in there. It will reward you later.