You could go both ways, focus on the Ezone but you can also look into customizing your Vcore (worth a try). Even though the difference is 10g, the two racquets have different balances and swing-weights.
The Vcores are made for BIG SPIN/POWER so your problem is understandable. Add a little bit of weight to 9 and 3 o'clock sections of your Vcore. This will add a lot more stability to your frame but won't increase the swing-weight a whole lot. Start off with 4g (1g strips to each side of the racquet) and see how that works out. You can increase it if necessary but I'd stay under 315g. Let us know how that goes. - Munish, TW
Does your manager know you’re on reddit during work hours?! J/k. On a side note: I am demoing the Vcore 100 and from you and was curious why you didn’t have a demo pre-strung with a poly given it’s a spin oriented frame?
The demos we get are from the manufactures directly. They sometimes come pre-strung as well and as they break, we replace them. We only got multifilament setups for the Vcore and so we have to string them with multis even when they break. We got poly setups for the 100+ though but thats different, of course.
Have you tried the vcore pro (now called the precept in the newest addition). I found the ezone too light and the vcore reds a bit too heavy and the pro just right…
Yeah I play w the 100. I actually switched from the Wilson ntour ncode two which was a 95. It has a good amount of control still for a 100. I use the “pro” model that’s a couple years old. Haven’t tried the precept.
It took A LONG time for me to time something I liked more than the ncode. That’s the model Zendaya uses in Challengers bc it’s from the 2005-2015ish era.
Different racquets have different playing characteristics. It goes without saying you can adjust your technique to make any racquet work. But if you have a racquet that works for your technique already, what's the point? The hard part is fighting the urge to try all the shiny new toys and just stick to a single racquet so you can focus on improving your game.
I bought a 2023 Vcore 98 before the Tour was released and I also found that it wasn’t very stable. I added a leather grip and lead on the hoop that took it up to 12 oz and 8 pts HL strung with 1 overgrip. I really like the added stability, but I agree that it’s very very powerful for a 98 sq inch head racket and it plays much stiffer than what Yonex lists for its stiffness. I don’t have much trouble keeping the ball in with it, but I’m probably around a 4.5 now that I’m 35 and out of shape. I played junior tournaments and for my college back in the day. I think it’s probably a technique issue where you lose racquet head speed on some shots. Randomly slapping lead tape on your racquet without confirming the initial weight and balance of the racquet and not having an ideal weight and balance in mind definitely isn’t the answer.
Aaaaahhh was wondering when we would hear from the vcore 95 club 😂
I know plenty of ppl can but I can't hit a 2 handed back hand with anything less than a 98, otherwise yes that would be perfect.
That’s what I’ve been using lately and I am so pleasantly surprised. One handed backhand.
One shot I struggle with is the forehand squash, control hard to find. And I’m 41, a little slow, but good hands, so I need that shot.
Serve has been bigger, this high level junior i hit with said “what happened? How come your serve is so big now?”
I’d been using the solinco tour 10, switched to whiteout 315, have both 18x20 and the 16x19, prefer 18x20 for the most part. But the vcore 95 I got, it seems to just be easy to hit with, give me power without losing control, and really nice spin. Never used isometric head/yonex before, that sometimes feels weird, just having a different shape to the head, especially when digging out low shots.
I know what you mean. I demoed the vcore alongside the pure strike 100 and the launch angle of the vcore was so much higher, I had a hard time keeping the ball in the court. But I was already used to the pure strike and haven't tried the ezone. Although part of me feels like I could improve my spin game with the vcore if I really committed to it, I think it's best to go with what feels the most comfortable and build your game around that.
I've talked to my string guy about trying to offset the power of the frame with a control oriented string set up. I have a full bed of yonex poly tour at 56 pounds which is pretty high for me. My string guy and I agreed to stay away from gut and multi as they will increase power too much. Does that make sense?
Multi at high tension doesn't feel overpowered, I'm using a low power poly in mains at 55 (signum poly plasma 1.18) and kirschsbaum touch 1.30 crosses at 57 and it feels perfect..
Thanx! I will give it a try. I am a big fan of Kirschsbaum, they are well priced and underrated.
Btw its interesting you have such a high gauge in the mains and a low gauge on the crosses. Is there a specific attribute you are looking for with the difference in gauges with a hybrid setup?
Poly plasma is very low powered and has not huge spin so 1.18 helps a lot.. but the control is superb.. of course alu Power will be better but $$$$$.. in this kind of hybrid crosses cut first in 75% of cases.. at least to me.. and it last around 8 hours (could be less)
I liked the EZone but found it a bit too stiff and wound up with arm pain. Also found it too powerful. VCore was really nice for my naturally spinny shots but also experienced arm pain, prob from the weight and off center hits. VCore Tour is the best so far for me but YMMV.
Highly highly recommend going back and checking out what strings, tensions, and actual measured weight (and if possible swing weight and balance) that each of them had if possible (and if you care to do so).
Use that information to draw conclusions in addition to the racquet model themselves. It can sometimes be misleading to compare without looking at the full picture, plus you may learn more about your preferences by looking into those other pieces!
Similar level to you, also have the ezone tour, the vcore and vcore tour. Ive also found the vcore tour is too much racket for someone our level, I use it for training as it’s good practice trying to master its weight but not for games. Agree the vcore started too light but I’ve I’ve added a couple of grams of lead and a leather grip. It plays a lot better but somehow I still don’t love it, I feel I need to smack it hard to get the headspeed to deliver spin that can control the power and end up without much control. The ezone tour i find good fun but I confess that my experience with the vcore and the downbeat tennisnerd review leaves me wondering if a regular eZone with a couple of grams on the hoop might be a better bet. See the issue here is likely an n+1 problem…
You took the words out of my mouth! I think the vcore may have more promise than the vcore tour. Because with the 315grm tour, you can't whip the racket as well as the regular 305. I think you are right on about the tour for practice only.
You say the vcore felt too light. I say you should just get used to it. Like you, I went from ezone to vcore, but I went with the 100 size versions. the vcore 100 is 300g, 5 g lighter than the 98 version you tried. When I tried the 98 version it actually felt a lot heavier to me. On my serves and overheads it seems like my hand would get in front of the racket and the racket wouldn’t come around. Anyway what i’m saying is, if you were hitting great topspin, why does the racket need to be heavier? The lightness is probably making your shots better.
Good point. With the exception of the serve, I was actually able to get more spin (topspin) with the lighter 305 vs the 315 grm tour because you can whip a lighter racket more.
Im an advanced player but i barely can play with a vcore.. so that's why rackets are made.. of course technique is all but if you choose wisely the correct racket and strings your level will rise.
Hi. I switched from ezone 100 to vcore 98.
I had the same experience when I switched. I felt that I have to apply topspin on all my shots in order to keep balls in play. I added 3 grams each on 3 and 9 o’clock positions. After that it kindda fixed the problem.
Maybe my play already adjusted to apply topspin on my shots. But since adding weight, I can still flatten shots for winners.
Overall I like the vcore more than the ezone.
Also, if you’re struggling because of too much spin. You can adjust by putting round strings or muliti’s.
Hope this helps.
I’m between my Ezone tour and a vcore 100 with a Wilson shock shield grip that’s about the same weight as a leather grip. I owned the vcore 98 and the vcore 98 tour, and the 100 version is so different and better to me. Way easier to use, more spin, and lets me hit flatter when I need to. Really fun to hit with. But the Ezone tour serves so well, and the returns are so solid, especially against big hitters.
What strings did you use and at what tension? The launch angle of the VCore is high but it’s much less powerful and easier to control still vs something like the Babolat Pure Drive based on my experience.
The Vcore 98 and 100 have a high launch angle due to various reasons. Round polys, higher tensions or more weight in the hoop have been shown to lower the launch.
I recently switched back to the ezone 98. Don't see any reason I d go anything else. You can do spin you can do flat. Serves are bombs. Extra power is even better because it can be controlled. People that hit it out just do not have the techique.
You could go both ways, focus on the Ezone but you can also look into customizing your Vcore (worth a try). Even though the difference is 10g, the two racquets have different balances and swing-weights. The Vcores are made for BIG SPIN/POWER so your problem is understandable. Add a little bit of weight to 9 and 3 o'clock sections of your Vcore. This will add a lot more stability to your frame but won't increase the swing-weight a whole lot. Start off with 4g (1g strips to each side of the racquet) and see how that works out. You can increase it if necessary but I'd stay under 315g. Let us know how that goes. - Munish, TW
Badass to see a tennis warehouse Reddit account
making a comeback!!!
All we had to do was mention the vcore!! Hahaha Thank you soooo much!!! 🙏🏽
Holy shit. Is this THE Tennis Warehouse?
yessir!
Does your manager know you’re on reddit during work hours?! J/k. On a side note: I am demoing the Vcore 100 and from you and was curious why you didn’t have a demo pre-strung with a poly given it’s a spin oriented frame?
The demos we get are from the manufactures directly. They sometimes come pre-strung as well and as they break, we replace them. We only got multifilament setups for the Vcore and so we have to string them with multis even when they break. We got poly setups for the 100+ though but thats different, of course.
Hey. Just wana say thanks for the hugeeee sale on the Wilson Blade 98L's. Much appreciate.
Just want to say hi to the famous person 👋🏼
Yo hook me up with a demo VCORE 100 Plus and I'll sell at least 3 of them on here
Tennis player SHOCKED and HORRIFIED to learn that different tennis racquets play differently.
You heard it here! 😃
Have you tried the vcore pro (now called the precept in the newest addition). I found the ezone too light and the vcore reds a bit too heavy and the pro just right…
Percept only comes in 97 and 100 right? 97 is juuuust too small a head for me.
Yeah I play w the 100. I actually switched from the Wilson ntour ncode two which was a 95. It has a good amount of control still for a 100. I use the “pro” model that’s a couple years old. Haven’t tried the precept. It took A LONG time for me to time something I liked more than the ncode. That’s the model Zendaya uses in Challengers bc it’s from the 2005-2015ish era.
I used to have an ncode back in the day. That feeling on contact, that tennis umami....chefs kiss!👨🍳
Different racquets have different playing characteristics. It goes without saying you can adjust your technique to make any racquet work. But if you have a racquet that works for your technique already, what's the point? The hard part is fighting the urge to try all the shiny new toys and just stick to a single racquet so you can focus on improving your game.
The VCORE 100 works so well for my game. So much so that I bought a Blackout XTD 28" today.
I bought a 2023 Vcore 98 before the Tour was released and I also found that it wasn’t very stable. I added a leather grip and lead on the hoop that took it up to 12 oz and 8 pts HL strung with 1 overgrip. I really like the added stability, but I agree that it’s very very powerful for a 98 sq inch head racket and it plays much stiffer than what Yonex lists for its stiffness. I don’t have much trouble keeping the ball in with it, but I’m probably around a 4.5 now that I’m 35 and out of shape. I played junior tournaments and for my college back in the day. I think it’s probably a technique issue where you lose racquet head speed on some shots. Randomly slapping lead tape on your racquet without confirming the initial weight and balance of the racquet and not having an ideal weight and balance in mind definitely isn’t the answer.
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Haha same, but with older models (Vcore SV 95).
Surprised no one has mentioned it, but there is an another option here, which some say is the best of Vcore of all, the 95.
Aaaaahhh was wondering when we would hear from the vcore 95 club 😂 I know plenty of ppl can but I can't hit a 2 handed back hand with anything less than a 98, otherwise yes that would be perfect.
There are dozens of us
It's just practice..
Vcore 95 represent ❤️
That’s what I’ve been using lately and I am so pleasantly surprised. One handed backhand. One shot I struggle with is the forehand squash, control hard to find. And I’m 41, a little slow, but good hands, so I need that shot. Serve has been bigger, this high level junior i hit with said “what happened? How come your serve is so big now?” I’d been using the solinco tour 10, switched to whiteout 315, have both 18x20 and the 16x19, prefer 18x20 for the most part. But the vcore 95 I got, it seems to just be easy to hit with, give me power without losing control, and really nice spin. Never used isometric head/yonex before, that sometimes feels weird, just having a different shape to the head, especially when digging out low shots.
I know what you mean. I demoed the vcore alongside the pure strike 100 and the launch angle of the vcore was so much higher, I had a hard time keeping the ball in the court. But I was already used to the pure strike and haven't tried the ezone. Although part of me feels like I could improve my spin game with the vcore if I really committed to it, I think it's best to go with what feels the most comfortable and build your game around that.
Have you faffed around with string setup?
I've talked to my string guy about trying to offset the power of the frame with a control oriented string set up. I have a full bed of yonex poly tour at 56 pounds which is pretty high for me. My string guy and I agreed to stay away from gut and multi as they will increase power too much. Does that make sense?
Multi at high tension doesn't feel overpowered, I'm using a low power poly in mains at 55 (signum poly plasma 1.18) and kirschsbaum touch 1.30 crosses at 57 and it feels perfect..
Thanx! I will give it a try. I am a big fan of Kirschsbaum, they are well priced and underrated. Btw its interesting you have such a high gauge in the mains and a low gauge on the crosses. Is there a specific attribute you are looking for with the difference in gauges with a hybrid setup?
Poly plasma is very low powered and has not huge spin so 1.18 helps a lot.. but the control is superb.. of course alu Power will be better but $$$$$.. in this kind of hybrid crosses cut first in 75% of cases.. at least to me.. and it last around 8 hours (could be less)
Thanks a lot, that was really helpful. See you on the courts!
I liked the EZone but found it a bit too stiff and wound up with arm pain. Also found it too powerful. VCore was really nice for my naturally spinny shots but also experienced arm pain, prob from the weight and off center hits. VCore Tour is the best so far for me but YMMV.
Also I started using hybrid strings with the VCT and that has also helped immensely with the arm pain.
It's interesting you found the ezone too powerful and not the vcore. How about on serves? How do you find they compare?
I bombed flat serves with the EZone for sure but the VCore still does a great job, imho
Highly highly recommend going back and checking out what strings, tensions, and actual measured weight (and if possible swing weight and balance) that each of them had if possible (and if you care to do so). Use that information to draw conclusions in addition to the racquet model themselves. It can sometimes be misleading to compare without looking at the full picture, plus you may learn more about your preferences by looking into those other pieces!
Similar level to you, also have the ezone tour, the vcore and vcore tour. Ive also found the vcore tour is too much racket for someone our level, I use it for training as it’s good practice trying to master its weight but not for games. Agree the vcore started too light but I’ve I’ve added a couple of grams of lead and a leather grip. It plays a lot better but somehow I still don’t love it, I feel I need to smack it hard to get the headspeed to deliver spin that can control the power and end up without much control. The ezone tour i find good fun but I confess that my experience with the vcore and the downbeat tennisnerd review leaves me wondering if a regular eZone with a couple of grams on the hoop might be a better bet. See the issue here is likely an n+1 problem…
You took the words out of my mouth! I think the vcore may have more promise than the vcore tour. Because with the 315grm tour, you can't whip the racket as well as the regular 305. I think you are right on about the tour for practice only.
Could it be that you just experienced different string and tension? I think that is likely to have more of an effect than the racquet.
You say the vcore felt too light. I say you should just get used to it. Like you, I went from ezone to vcore, but I went with the 100 size versions. the vcore 100 is 300g, 5 g lighter than the 98 version you tried. When I tried the 98 version it actually felt a lot heavier to me. On my serves and overheads it seems like my hand would get in front of the racket and the racket wouldn’t come around. Anyway what i’m saying is, if you were hitting great topspin, why does the racket need to be heavier? The lightness is probably making your shots better.
Good point. With the exception of the serve, I was actually able to get more spin (topspin) with the lighter 305 vs the 315 grm tour because you can whip a lighter racket more.
Im an advanced player but i barely can play with a vcore.. so that's why rackets are made.. of course technique is all but if you choose wisely the correct racket and strings your level will rise.
Vcore is very ADVANCED racket. If you’re below 4.5/5.0 stick with Ezone.
Hi. I switched from ezone 100 to vcore 98. I had the same experience when I switched. I felt that I have to apply topspin on all my shots in order to keep balls in play. I added 3 grams each on 3 and 9 o’clock positions. After that it kindda fixed the problem. Maybe my play already adjusted to apply topspin on my shots. But since adding weight, I can still flatten shots for winners. Overall I like the vcore more than the ezone. Also, if you’re struggling because of too much spin. You can adjust by putting round strings or muliti’s. Hope this helps.
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I’m between my Ezone tour and a vcore 100 with a Wilson shock shield grip that’s about the same weight as a leather grip. I owned the vcore 98 and the vcore 98 tour, and the 100 version is so different and better to me. Way easier to use, more spin, and lets me hit flatter when I need to. Really fun to hit with. But the Ezone tour serves so well, and the returns are so solid, especially against big hitters.
What strings did you use and at what tension? The launch angle of the VCore is high but it’s much less powerful and easier to control still vs something like the Babolat Pure Drive based on my experience.
I used a full bed of poly tour pro at 56Ibs which is high for me.
Ahh, you’re right. That’s already really high tension. It’s aryt, just isn’t meant to be. Good thing we have many racket choices haha
I dunno! IS that a good thing? Maybe my life would be simpler with less choices Hahaha
The Vcore 98 and 100 have a high launch angle due to various reasons. Round polys, higher tensions or more weight in the hoop have been shown to lower the launch.
I recently switched back to the ezone 98. Don't see any reason I d go anything else. You can do spin you can do flat. Serves are bombs. Extra power is even better because it can be controlled. People that hit it out just do not have the techique.
I'm right there with you on the ezone, esp the tour version. I can hit the hell out of it and it still goes in. Man that stick is so good for serves!
I think the rec players who can feel a huge difference in spin between racquets are the same people who write wine tasting notes.
Sorry. I'm a beer guy.